Dueling John Deere 1025r/1023e Power Beyond Install!

[@kirkbrinkley6990]

Thanks again Tim and Christy for letting us come up. What a cool experience this was! P.S. I'm glad you left that very last part in there where we were discussing all of those "great reasons" to trade for a new tractor with a backhoe! I will be sure my finance committee watches that part! 🤣

[@dougthegrouch]

One of the best ones. Real time, step by step, side by side comparison. Keep up the great work!

[@Bob-vb8lc]

There is a lot to do to add the Power Beyond after the fact. I am so glad that I got the backhoe installed @ the time of purchase. Thanks Gents for the video.

[@bnewton5922]

This was educational to watch. New friends was a added benefit. Thanks for another great video. Stay safe

[@btripodina70]

Great video guys! What should I consider when buy rear hydraulics as far as 2, 3, or 4 spool? Thanks

[@jimpalmer1944]

Great video Tim. the process explains what a power beyond kit is and how it works. I now understand that the kit simply interrupts the hydraulic flow between the three point hitch and the supply.

[@PurpleCollarLife]

Great job! I always thought this was a “dealer only” install.

[@TruckerZeus]

I just purchased a 2021 1025r. My first tractor ever. Absolutely love your channel. I’m learning so much about these little green monsters! Hopefully we can hook up some day. Thanks TTWT!

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Congratulations!

[@josuwils]

Great video, Tim. One thing I would would caution you about is checking for hydraulic leaks with your hand. Depending on the pressure of the hydraulic system, a high pressure stream of fluid can penetrate skin and cause major injuries. I'm not sure what the pressure is on that system, but I suspect it is high enough to potentially cause problems. My suggestion is to use a piece of cardboard to check for leaks.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

It is actually NOT at high pressure in this situation.

[@Thecowboy1950]

Yep that hydraulic pressure will pierce you like a Knife

[@nealtubbs9608]

Great video once again Tim. You did a great job instructing and explaining.

[@BiffsEquipment]

Great video Tim, was nice to see a lot of the differences between the two.. my father owns a 1023e that I’ll be working on very soon. Thanks for the video

[@gclaytony]

Just completed on my 1025R, but I'm holding reassembling until after the Summit Hydraulic's EVK2-2 installation. If I need to acces something or options to rout the power wire, I think it would be easier while everything is apart.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Yep. Good point. We did the same.

[@williamcoffman7149]

that was a cool episode, just purchased my 2020 1025r because of this channel and having the power beyond kit and the 3rd function kit installed by my local dealership....

[@tracybaker1062]

Tim, I have a John Deere 1025R I bought in 2015, and I want to put a hydraulic top link on to use with rake, box blade. What system would you suggest I install to be able to have this set up. Thanks for all you do on your channel. I watch your videos a lot.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

A few questions will lead to the optimal answer. 1. Do you have a backhoe? (more specifically, do you already have a power beyond kit)? If so, that makes it easy. 2. Do you want to have front 3rd function for eventual grapple, angle blade, etc? 3. Do you want to have additional rear hydraulics available, in addition to power top link? 4. Do you have hydraulic lift on your mower deck (either single hose to mid valve, or independent hydraulic lift). If the answer to the above is NO (firmly NO) to all of the above, then you CAN get the Deere OEM rear hydraulic kit. Single SCV, not compatible with anything else. If yes to any of the above, I would recommend Summit Power Beyond connected kit. If yes to 2, then get the FRK-JD2 or FRK-JD3 or FRK-JD4 kits. the 2,3,4 is total number of SCV's added....1 for front, the rest for the rear. I would recommend 3 or 4 total. I have 4 on both of my 1025R's. If firm no to #2, then EVK-JD2, 3,4 as above. Rear only, plugs into power beyond. For either of these summit options, you will need to add a power beyond, like in this video. You can get a power beyond kit from Deere, or from Summit. Both function the same. Deere version uses hard-lines, Summit uses flexible hoses to save some $$. if buying from summit-hydraulics.com/ttwt, use code TTWT for a 5% discount. Hope that helps!

[@3dmforbes]

Hi Tim. Thanks for all the great videos Question. I am buying a 260b used from a friend. Both 2018 1025r. Would you suggest removing pb from one tractor. And reinstalling on mine. Would there be any issues that you can foresee?

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Cost of new PB is about $200. Up to you. There should not be issue if you move it….just twice as much work :-)

[@3dmforbes]

Thank you. Great point. Appreciate the reply

[@michaelcangley1868]

Nice job by all three. I agree with you about the newer model's kit being more difficult to work with. On my 1025r I replaced the upper hose bracket with one I fabricated from a piece of 1/8" steel and a piece of old serpentine belt. The greater flexibility provides a more user friendly connection while adequately supporting the hose.

[@tonytaylor1277]

Buying a 2022 1025r TLB this week. Having JD 3rd function added for grapple. Should I have power beyond added for the future, or is it already there since has backhoe.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Power beyond will already be there.

[@hooksrus3997]

Great instructional video with dueling 1023E and 1025R side by side. Used both that you produced to install the Power Beyond and Summit solution on my 2014 1025R. Purchased the BLV00216 Power Beyond Kit (PBK) for my 2014 1025R, H120 FEL and a 60” MMM to add Summits EVK3-JD1. After installing the two components together I came to the conclusion I could of went with just using the older PBK (LVB25956). Thinking that I would need the extra hydraulic line to make an Independent Hyd mower lift BUT……there was no need for the extra line(s). If I ever decide to go that route I’m just going to use the third spool for the hydraulic power. Seeing how the first two spools are for my top and tilt. I think anyone out there with no Power Beyond installed on their 1025R no matter the year can get away with just using the older PBK with the Summit Hyd solution.

[@Kcolby47]

Informative, instructional, practical and useful for more hydraulic solutions. Plus prospective tractor buyers will realize the benefit of the power beyond, even if they are not getting a backhoe. Blessings!

[@michaelhenley2241]

Do you have installing a power and beyond on a 21 3032E ? I order a kit from summit and will prob need guidance

[@JohnSmith-lw2bm]

What is this good for if you aren’t doing the backhoe???

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Check out our recent video(s). We have worked with summit-hydraulics.com to develop a rear hydraulic valve set which connects to the power beyond. This easy plug and play connection makes cost effective rear hydraulics available to almost all recent compact tractors!

[@oldNavyJZ]

If I have a factory installed backhoe on my 2025r, that means I have the power beyond kit, right? Looking to add a third function for the front. Also tempted to add one for the back, for a hydraulic top link with roughly 18-26 inches travel.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Yep! The Summit FR3-JD1 would be perfect for you. 2 rear valves plus one front valve.

[@chuckstimson9029]

After watching this video I'm glad that I had it installed at the dealership on my new 3046R cab tractor. Great informative video.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Yes. Even MORE important to have it dealer installed on a cab tractor!

[@chuckstimson9029]

@@TractorTimewithTim Yeah, there was no way I was touching that project.

[@ericlaker1983]

Great stuff Tim! It makes it so easy to own this tractor because of you guys! I will do this at a later time. I have not regretted each experience I have had with each modifiers I have done with Johnny. The last one artillian diverter was a treat. Not scared one little bit with you there! Thank you so much for your efforts!

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Thanks for the encouragement, Eric!

[@gizzmo2875]

When I was in the Army, I had the tool room assigned to me. Believe it or not, I had 2 adjustable wrenches that were on my hand receipt. One was a Metric 300mm, the other a Standard 12"...they had DIFFERENT NSN's but they were the SAME wrench. Same brand, same color same all of it. When I laid out my tool room, I would have to ensure that the correct side was up for the given line on my hand receipt...

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Gubment. Brilliant!

[@srchipmunk]

I put the 4 rear hydraulic solution on my 3032e worked great

[@TravelingMaritimers]

Great video, extremely helpful. Question: How did you get the tractor to start without the seat installed? Thanks for this and all of the other great videos.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Magic :-)

[@yippikiyay197]

Hey Tim why didn't they use the mid to rear for this? I don't see buckets?

[@TractorTimewithTim]

We didn’t have the loaders on the machines…they would have been in The way.

[@paulciampa]

thanks Tim this is my weekend project

[@paulciampa]

Tim this was an easy installation on my 2019 1025r thank you for such a complete detailed and informative video next is the summit hydraulic kit....but I'm going to need help with the electrical hope that comes out soon

[@crhend512]

Excellent video! I think a project like this is usually better shared with a friend and you had two! Fast forward a little over a year and the BLV11216 kit has gone up slightly. Instead of $184.80 it's now $243.10

[@raceneely8185]

Do we know how this works with Mauser cab? I think Deere does not approve it but I have seen a few 2025R on KZbin with backhoes so I guess it works.

[@philsmock4943]

Thank you, thank you, thank you. I'll watch this video at least one more time and then I'll be ready to install my PB kit.

[@erikrunas226]

Another great video. Any chance you could do a side by side comparison of the 1025R and 1023? Would one notice the 2 hp and 4 lb/ft difference in power?

[@jamesmabry2261]

Tim, what kind of ride does the 1025R have when mowing over a bumpy yard? I currently have a Deere z920m which mows great but beats you up! I have thought about the 1025R or maybe the X700 series since all I do is mow although a front loader would be nice to have! You think the 1025R would hold resell value better than X700 series? Thanks for your help

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Yes, 1025r will resell better. Ride similar to x700. Run tire pressures low. 2025r would ride better. 2032r with radials rides like a dream :-)...mowing with my 2038r now :-)

[@MrChristopoop]

@James, when I am mowing my regular yard portions which are definitely not golf course smooth as I am on the back side of hills and slopes, the ride is not bad and very tolerable. I also mow horse pasture (about 2.5 acres) just to keep it even where horses don’t keep up. That ride however is tough on the body after a awhile. Takes a bit longer than an hour and I am usually happy to be done in there. Still I bought tractor to do multiple functions so I knew going in it would not be the best ride mowing. That being said, I can move materials, grade areas, dig with h my backhoe (which we actually use much more frequently than I thought we would), and also TLB doubles as a snow remover in the winter. Co worker just upgraded from one of the X model mowers that was four wheel drive and had snow blower, mower plow blade and one other attachment I cannot recall. He is loving the upgrade already.

[@michaelgreen3224]

Did this install and I only used two lines? Wonder what the other two fit? Could I sell them to recoupe some money.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

you don't need them. Someone else asked about selling them. Not sure there is much value, as every kit comes with the extra lines. Best idea is to hold on to them in case you get one of the other kits which require those lines. You never know!

[@RockhillfarmYT]

Nice thorough installation video

[@earlyriser8998]

Great video comparison. Christi did a fantastic job editing this into a short concise, entertaining(!), video that tells both stories.

[@jamesford9917]

Hi Tim I looking at buying 2025r with as you can and we are snowblower I was wondering what kind of hydraulic so I would need 3rd scv Hydraulics will that work

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Artillian has a good diverter kit.

[@agrimm01]

Great video, but just to clarify, did you say you can use the new kit on an older 1025R? 2013

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Yes.

[@stevet6008]

Hi Tim, Great video. I have been considering adding the PB kit to my 2011 1023e for some time now and this video is exactly what I needed to move forward with it. I have a couple of questions. If adding a hydraulic top link would I need an additional lever to control it? also my MMM hydraulics currently plug into my loader hydraulics, if plugging MMM into PB kit what lever would control the raising and lower of MMM? would it be independent of the loader? Thanks for all the great advice

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Steve, have you seen our Summit Rear Hydraulic solution? It connects to the PB, and provides up to 4 valves. You can use this kit to control your MMM and a power top link. We just showed the Summit hydraulic kit install last week. summit-hydraulics.com/ttwt use code ttwt for a 5% discount.

[@kirkbrinkley6990]

Yes, the hydraulic mower lift works like a charm with the Summit Hydraulic solution. Also, the factory hose on my 1023E was plenty long enough. I just re routed it to the rear of the tractor. You will also need to get an adapter to go up from the 1/4" male fitting on the loader quick connects to a 1/2" male fitting on the Summit kit. Then one of the switches on the Summit kit will control the lift/lower of the mower deck.

[@CraigHadoff]

Hi Tim. I have a 19 1025r with factory cab. Does Summit have a power beyond kit for it. If so what kit #. Thanks

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Yes. Not sure of number.

[@CraigHadoff]

@@TractorTimewithTim Thanks. I sent a email out to summit for the number and price. Thanks again.

[@eddierock84]

Yet another enjoyable production from TTWT video showing the installation of the 2 variations of the Power Beyond on the 1 series. I love the concept of the valves at the rear for the growing use of hydraulic equipment. I'd have it in a shot since I can see the benefits it brings. Great Editing Christy of the whole day installation. My 1026R ( European equivalent 1025R ) will come with a Mauser Cab. ETA Sometime July. The dealers here in Poland aren't that clued up on Power Beyond as Backhoes aren't so common or front loaders for that matter as you saw in your German dealership visit. I've been devouring the internet at the various Deere parts sites for the correct PB and notice there is a lot of text including ( Not for CAB ) mentioned. I guess this was John Deere way of saying the cab prevents a backhoe being mounted and didn't see a need for a PB. As you can imagine its going to be a bit of a nightmare getting any PB fitted once that Mauser cab is installed. Interested to know how you might tackle this one Tim, I know its my fault for wanting a cab. But being thrown together with Snow and Rain then the summer Mosquitos I've had to survive. Ha ha. Any advise greatly appreciated Tim.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

That is a tough one! I don’t have any specific advice.

[@martineastburn3679]

My 1025R was set up with the Hy in the rear and had a hard tube to loop back for flow control. Power beyond.

[@marshmellomatey]

Good job! Now I may have a problem. I have a 2016 1025R with a Curtis Cab, I ordered a Limbsaw and a Extreme pump kit from HydrosPlus. I would like to add Power Beyond for my hydraulic mower lift and adding a hydraulic top link and of course Summit hydraulic valves. Think I'm screwed for power beyond stuff.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

well, cab will make it more challenging for sure. however, it should all fit.

[@marshmellomatey]

@@TractorTimewithTim Thanks, I'll try it.

[@onefelixedo]

Will this install on a 2013 1026R?

[@williamarquett5948]

I am enjoying your videos.When you read this question I know you are going to tell me," you should have purchased a Green tractor', but here goes. i have a new Mahindra 2638 HST without a backhoe. I want to put on a Summit 4 spool solution kit but can't get anyone to tell me where to get a power beyond kit. That includes my dealer. What do I do?

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Uhoh. Maybe you can go to a TYM dealer? I think your tractor is made by TYM.

[@txdoodlebug]

Great video. I get to do this project on my tractor next week. Mine is a different color and I don't think my kit will be as refined or have as good instructions. Still this video was useful in outlining the general procedure.

[@doggiedoc94]

Installed Power Beyond on my 1025R today in preparation for adding 260B BH. Thank you for this video, it was very helpful. Total time for me to install without the “phone-a-friend” option was about 3 hours. Hopefully the BH will be delivered soon! I don’t suppose you’ve made a video on installing the subframe on the 1025R for the 206B have you? Thanks again for all you do! Doc

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Sorry, no video available on the subframe install.

[@doggiedoc94]

I didn’t find a lot of information on it on the forums or KZbin, but it looks pretty strait forward. After reviewing the instructions, I’m going to say that installing the Power Beyond is likely the more difficult task. Next up will be the Summit 4 SCV you mentioned. And then there’s the HydrosPlus setup you talked about! Thank you Tim!

[@ramchillarege1658]

Question on how to install a hydraulic top link. I have a backhoe, so the power beyond exists. Is there a way to use the power beyond (PB) to drive a hydraulic top link.. since the PB is free when I using my box blade

[@TractorTimewithTim]

I think you found your answer here: Introducing NEW Rear Hydraulic Solution for Subcompact Tractors kzbin.info/www/bejne/lXPSl5-GntyXbJY

[@donniehance1919]

Tim, how long did the installation for the power beyond take you guys?

[@kirkbrinkley6990]

If memory serves correctly, this probably took us 5 or 6 hours total. But keep in mind we were filming, sharing some tools between 2 different projects, and we did stop for lunch during that timeframe too. If you have a buddy and have all the necessary tools handy, I would estimate 3 or 4 hours start to finish.

[@donniehance1919]

Kirk, thank you it took me about 3 hours to get the 3 SCV installed. Thanks your for the video helped a lot!

[@cowboy898]

Tim, how do you control the newly installed hydraulics?

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Electrically…switches either on the joystick, or on a switch box. Check out the other videos showing the actual hydraulic kit install.

[@cowboy898]

@@TractorTimewithTim ho ok. Are you talking about different video? Can you give me the link?

[@TractorTimewithTim]

@@cowboy898 here is one. There have been some improvements/additions since then, but you’ll get the point: Introducing NEW Rear Hydraulic Solution for Subcompact Tractors kzbin.info/www/bejne/lXPSl5-GntyXbJY

[@johnsteele3488]

@@TractorTimewithTim Excellent. sorry for all the questions, which top link do you recommend?

[@TractorTimewithTim]

@@johnsteele3488 shopgreendealer.com/ttwt use code ttwt for 5% discount.

[@donaldfoust5659]

I got the power beyond and summit hydraulic unit. But I have a John Deere 2025R and the power beyond is completely different. At this point I can find how it connects.

[@ambermcfarland6273]

We have a 755 and the power beyond kit was no longer available our JD dealer/owner remembered a memo . They rebent the hardline off the hydraulic pump on the rear and added hydraulic hose with quick connects making that same loop

[@crbrew7974]

I just finished the new Summit power beyond kit, its different then these two,, time to do another video :)

[@shorty539]

Green parts store says not for sale BLV11216. Any other number we can use?

[@TractorTimewithTim]

checking into it. ....I'll try to let you know.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

I got a response: Backordered ... with no promise date. Sounds like the supply issues continue to get worse! Getting difficult to get ANYTHING!

[@shorty539]

Thanks for looking into it.

[@RuralLivingwithJesse]

I just got my 2038r and want to do remotes on it. A video on it would be helpful

[@donniehance1919]

Tim great video but a day late and a dollar short I got the 3rd function kit for my 2018 1025R just a day before you put out the first video in this series. So then I have been waiting for this Video before I started my project!

[@donniehance1919]

Plus Tim I got a 3 SCV multiplier kit from summit to go with the 3 function kit from Deere.

[@Archermotorcycleandtire]

It's leever in Arkansas lol! And up north it's lever

[@yippikiyay197]

What does the positioning block do?

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Allows ‘position control’ of the 3 pt hitch. Set the lever in the same position to get to the same height each time.

[@countryman5110]

Love the Friday videos.

[@jimmcknight3021]

I did have a question concerning your solution to extra ports on the one series John Deere's. What is the advantage of doing the summit solution with power beyond versus a summit solution if you have a rear port already? I was just wondering if one was more efficient than the other, because my understanding is I thought you could put additional ports on some of summit's products as long as you had one set of rear ports on your tractor in the back?

[@TractorTimewithTim]

No difference in efficiency. I suppose many ways to skin a cat. This is one of them. If you have the rear scv kit from Deere and only need one rear scv, then adding the summit diverter is probably a reasonable option.

[@jimmcknight3021]

@@TractorTimewithTim I was just curious, because I have no desire to put a backhoe on a one series if I end up buying one. I thought maybe I missed something somewhere that there was an advantage to the power beyond solution with summit even if you didn't put a backhoe on it. Thanks for getting back with me.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

The advantage to the power beyond solution is compatibility. The PB kits will handle the specific tractor differences. So, this makes install and configuration much easier. It is hard to make a kit specific to each tractor. With this solution, we don’t need a separate kit for each model, and we leave the machine specific complexity to the PB kit. I hope that makes sense. In my opinion, it is a game changer. Hydraulics have always been diffficult to purchase and install. ...but no more!!

[@ambermcfarland6273]

Hey Tim husband just did a quick video and sent it to you on Facebook messager how our old Iron 755 was done . Power beyond

[@leokelly359]

great video Tim great info

[@jamescochran8509]

Great video glad you took time to simplify the steps.👍

[@jamescochran8509]

I can see this needs to be put on before my new Curtis cab goes on .

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Yep!!

[@nlowe660660]

This was an awesome video that helped me out a lot. Thank you!

[@peterkober6758]

Tim this interesting good job for a rainy day God Bless All PaK

[@Chipgillette]

Thank you for the great videos. I need a two added SCV kit for a JD4066r cab tractor. I have the third valve/3rd front function and the 4th and 5th rear SCVs. They are in use with the top and tilt. I need the added 2 SCVs for other rear implements. Just wonder what Summit may have going or if this system could be used. 👮🏻‍♂️👍Chip

[@Chipgillette]

FYI: I do have the power beyond added.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

This kit will work with your Power Beyond.

[@Chipgillette]

@@TractorTimewithTim Yes. I was kind of hoping that there was some first hand experience of just where to mount the valves and the switches. If the mounting brackets were available for an easy bolt up install for the 4066r cab tractor. 👮🏻‍♂️👍chip

[@TractorTimewithTim]

I don’t have a 4066.

[@Chipgillette]

@@TractorTimewithTim it is just a matter of time Tim.🤣

[@jeffkimble8857]

I have been looking at a hydraulic add on solution for my 1025r. I do not plan to add a backhoe. I really just want a have a connection at the rear to use a hydraulic top link. What do think is the best solution to get a connector set at the rear for that? Thanks

[@TractorTimewithTim]

The solution we are showing here is the best solution in my opinion. Install the power beyond kit, then install our 2-4 valve kit. You might be able to piece together a cheaper solution, but it would entail lots of learning, trial and error, and likely purchasing some duplicate (expensive) parts. This solution is simple, sort of like building with lego blocks. 1. Install the Power Beyond (use this episode as a guide)...get it at greenpartstore.com/ttwt use code TTWT for free shipping. 2. Install the 4 valve kit from summit-hydraulics.com/ttwt (use code TTWT for 5% off) Less than $1000 for everything. ...the 4 valve kit might make it more than $1000...but you get my point. Also, we have a front 3rd function add-on kit coming soon (2-3 months) which will use one of these rear valves for controlling a grapple, etc on the loader. Hydraulics has been black magic on these little tractors for years. With this kit, I believe we have made it understandable, and within reach of the typical DIY type. I hope this helps.

[@jeffkimble1863]

@@TractorTimewithTim yup! Thanks!

[@slowride55]

You should really check for oil leaks with a piece of cardboard, that oil is at a very high pressure.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Actually, no, the oil is NOT at high pressure in this situation.

[@eosjoe565]

@@TractorTimewithTim How is the pressure side of the Power Beyond not high pressure?

[@TractorTimewithTim]

There is very little pressure until a valve is opened...and work is performed. In other words when something tries to resist or limit the flow.

[@samuelsoto5872]

I don’t own a tractor or a ranch but your videos are very interesting. Hope to have land soon and own a tractor in the near future

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Thanks for watching, Sam!

[@diyerguy2622]

Hey Tim, for us hydraulics novices, could you explain here, or mention in a video how air is purged from the system after doing an install like this?

[@TractorTimewithTim]

No need to ‘purge’ the air. The hydraulic oil flows continually in a loop. If there is air in the system, it will be purged automatically as soon as the valve is operated. The pump is the first item in the loop....it always feeds from the tank. Any air would be downstream, and would simply be ‘returned’ to the tank eventually.

[@diyerguy2622]

@@TractorTimewithTim so, if I’m understanding correctly, the air returns to the tank, accumulates, and at some point in routine maintenance, you just top the fluid off in the tank?

[@kirkbrinkley6990]

@@diyerguy2622, exactly right. After adding the PB kit, the Summit Rear Hydraulic kit, and the hydraulic top link, I added about 3 quarts of hydraulic fluid to top off the tank.

[@diyerguy2622]

@@kirkbrinkley6990 Thanks for the education, guys. I'm learning a lot from the good folks taking the time to make these videos.

[@CDNguyen59]

Hey Tim, will this power beyond work for 2015 jd2032r

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Not the same kit.

[@CDNguyen59]

@@TractorTimewithTim Thanks

[@richardstevens3461]

Nice Project!

[@antoniotrimboli7121]

Hi Tim, I need some help and your my last hope. Two months ago I purchased a 1025R tractor (2021 model) and I came across a 260 backhoe, a demo model so has had no use but is a few years old. I’m trying to find out what power beyond hydraulics kit I need to suit but no one able to advise me. Someone said that it’s not compatible with my tractor but didn’t say why. I have fitted the sub-frame with no issues. If it’s any help this is the serial no. for the backhoe it is, 1LVO260XEF0091373 I’ve watched your videos which are great, can you help please? Tony.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Get the newer of the two power beyond kits for this tractor. Connectors are the same.

[@JAllyFarms]

is it my imagination or is the 1023 larger?

[@TractorTimewithTim]

same size.

[@JAllyFarms]

@@TractorTimewithTim yea it looked bigger from the camera angle at the start

[@FSt-Jean]

Super useful video. The same for a JD 3rd function would be awesome!

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Won’t need the JD 3rd function once our solution is complete (a couple of months). We’ll use one of the rear valves for front 3rd function.

[@martineastburn3679]

My 1025R has hard lines and the power Beyond on it -and another control arm but it was connected to the belly mower . Hum...

[@jasone9]

I really enjoyed both the videos in this series, even though I dont own a johnny.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Thanks Jason!

[@richardstevens3461]

Looking at the BLV11143 JD third function kit... now that would be a great video! ;). It's a lot of parts and a LONG set of instructions!

[@TractorTimewithTim]

...and not necessary when we get this summit rear scv kit completed. Next step is the front 3rd function add on.

[@KirtH27]

Dang in wish Minnesota wasn't so far away it would be interesting to see this stuff first hand! I would like to bring x585 by and compare it to the 1025 side by side. Hmmmm video idea

[@rcwayt4020]

Tim do you have a video on the install of the factory 3rd function from Deere on the 1025r?

[@TractorTimewithTim]

I do not. Don’t think I will need one now, as we are working with Summit on a less expensive more functional solution.

[@rcwayt4020]

@@TractorTimewithTim I was thinking of getting it but now I'm interested in your solution. . . . . Any details?

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Suspect 1-2 months for release, but it will be add on to the Summit Rear Hydraulic Solution.

[@rcwayt4020]

@@TractorTimewithTim would you have to have the power beyond and the rear solution to have it?

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Yes.

[@DragonflyAcres2022]

Great video.Thank you for sharing

[@oklahomachris6298]

Can you get a power beyond for the D series?

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Not sure...does it support a backhoe? If so, then, yes, PB is available.

[@oklahomachris6298]

@@TractorTimewithTim no it doesn’t but was told you could add SCV. Is that a total different deal?

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Yes. Different deal. In that case, you won’t be able to use the summit kit which adds up to 4 scv’s, but you can add the Deere scv kit(s) to add one or two scv’s.

[@oklahomachris6298]

@@TractorTimewithTim where best place to purchase SCV green parts store or what do you suggest?

[@10rcoleman]

Dont be joking about the metric adjustable wrench they are people who will wonder where to get one lol

[@southlakelife]

It's next to the Muffler Bearing removal tool at your local auto parts jobber. ;)

[@chex313]

We won't mention Tim using it backwards....

[@tfpdemofighter8419]

Has anyone heard of a product from Hydros plus he’s on KZbin showing upgrades to the hydraulic system on the John Deere 1025R and if anyone has done the upgrades please let me know how it is going I’m looking to possibly do this to my 2025R thanks everyone

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Please be patient. Give me a little time...working with him.

[@russorpcom]

Good video!

[@richardstevens3461]

Tim, If I understand correctly you can't have the JD third function and Power Beyond kits on the same tractor? So this or another 3rd party solution is the only way to have a Power Beyond and Third function on a 1 series?

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Incorrect. PB and 3rd function can be compatible as long as you order the new PB kit (for 2018+ models). It includes the lines necessary for compatibility with 3rd function kit.

[@richardstevens3461]

@@TractorTimewithTim And as you stated in the video even though I have an older tractor I can still use the newer PB. Cool, thanks!

[@paigebevier5124]

Question, Would I have more down force or down pressure going threw the power divide with the summit hydraulics rather than splitting the lines on the front of the loader for an attachment like the grapple bucket?

[@TractorTimewithTim]

I do not understand the question.

[@paigebevier5124]

@@TractorTimewithTim is there a bigger advantage to connecting hydraulic lines to the summit hydraulic system, over putting in the regular 3rd function to run the grapple arms on the loader. I'm looking at buying the grapple bucket for my 1025r and i don't know if i want to put the regular 3rd function on or buy the summit hydraulics system.

[@kirkbrinkley6990]

In my opinion, the Summit kit is much more versatile due to the fact you can add up to 4 additional functions with it. The 3rd function kit only gives you 1 more. By going with the Summit kit, I was also able to add a hydraulic top link to one remote and an independent mower lift option to the 3rd spot on my 3 valve kit. Once the add on unit is released, I will be ready to go for a grapple.

[@paigebevier5124]

@@kirkbrinkley6990 thank you. I appreciate the feedback

[@chex313]

Break out the power tools ...I am worn out watching all the ratcheting. LOL

[@LivingCommonSense]

Why is this not a standard factory component? Deere couldn't include splitter and some hoses while it was being built? This tractor now lists for over $18,000 on the website, another $6600 on then loader and $5000+ for the mmm deck. Not including power beyond as standard equipment on a $29,000 tractor (today's price) is beyond ludicrous.

[@staceygandy2009]

Too much extra cost and trouble when you can just get a larger tractor and not much more expensive and comes equipped with more and big enough to get more done. I had one but there just too small to me.

[@Kdub320253]

These kits are now $400 if anyone is wondering.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

surely not??? I just recently looked at them. You can get it at summit-hydraulics.com use code TTWT if necessary. Much less.

[@cesareaugusto437]

CRAZY PRICES.

[@richardpecha6179]

Good job. Except you never ever!! Check for hydraulic leaks with your hands! If you have have a small leak you may have your skin cut by the high pressure hydraulic fluid! Which can cause you to get dirt & other contaminants inside your body! Very dangerous! All ways use a mirror or some other material to check for leaks!! Otherwise great job.

[@craigflatley7370]

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[@taipan185]

I dont know much about tractors at all but I am looking at buying a 1025r and I am curious if you can buy them with the power beyond already installed? Is it something you can only get at purchase if you get the backhoe, or can you just get the power beyond?

[@TractorTimewithTim]

You can get the Power Beyond without a backhoe. The dealer will install it for you.

[@taipan185]

@@TractorTimewithTim Thanks Tim I appreciate the response. I just want to at least have a hydraulic top link but with the potential to add more later if I chose to.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

@@taipan185 this summit kit is your answer. If you also want front 3rd function kit, you can get the similar summit FR3-JD1. Or FR4-JD1

[@taipan185]

@@TractorTimewithTim The thought of getting a grapple some time down the track has certainly crossed my mind. I do have to try and keep costs down atm though which is hard given that every time i check out attachments my mind just runs wild at all the possibilities lol. My primary goal atm though is to completely renovate my front and back yard, rip it up, level it and get some grass seed down. The idea of later picking up some side work using it is something Id like to look into as well.