Trail Bike of the Year 2020 | Part 1: Shop Bought Bikes | Mountain Bike Rider

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@garywinslow5607
@garywinslow5607 4 жыл бұрын
Do love Alan Muldoon’s reviews. Details, passionate and common sense, also thinks about average rider rather than the full on Enduro-bro. Good vid.
@MBRmagazine
@MBRmagazine 4 жыл бұрын
Much appreciated!
@musguelha14
@musguelha14 3 жыл бұрын
And he even dropped the mustache from a few years ago!
@71co0k
@71co0k 4 жыл бұрын
The 2021 Genius has 36 forks now. So I guess it has achieved perfection. Also, it's still the best looking of all of them. :)
@gazmo147
@gazmo147 4 жыл бұрын
So many omissions to this list, Specialized Stumpjumper, Giant Trance, Trek Fuel/Remedy, Cannondale Habit, multiple Santa Cruz, Orange Four/Five. I get the wanting to have different bikes, but how can you crown a “bike of the year” but only include half the field?
@DMFPERFORMANCE
@DMFPERFORMANCE 4 жыл бұрын
Answer Paid off.
@larrytate1657
@larrytate1657 4 жыл бұрын
I like my Cannondale Habit.
@GBHeiser
@GBHeiser 4 жыл бұрын
Cleaely you didnt even watch the video as its for a certain price point.
@alteregos910
@alteregos910 4 жыл бұрын
Price point
@EliasMisaelDonoso
@EliasMisaelDonoso 4 жыл бұрын
It was also necessary to add two very good Canyon Strive or Canyon Strive bicycles or also the Canyon Neuron. The Canyon Strive is more than anything else an awesome bike.
@mvanalst2003
@mvanalst2003 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve been doing mad research on full suspension MTB’s and I love your content. This one is perfect and I look forward to further parts! Thank you for the awesome content.
@MBRmagazine
@MBRmagazine 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks 🙏
@bananasstuff3344
@bananasstuff3344 4 жыл бұрын
@@MBRmagazine i love the magazine and the channel is the perfect companion!
@TheBikeRoom
@TheBikeRoom 4 жыл бұрын
Just hearing the word enduro makes me smile
@theDecendalorian
@theDecendalorian 4 жыл бұрын
The Scott Genius 920 is actually my dream bike, even before this video!
@sHevnoraak
@sHevnoraak 4 жыл бұрын
I have the 2018 720. I love it but I got rid of the twin lock it's more fiddly than it's worth. For me anyways
@jammanjim6914
@jammanjim6914 4 жыл бұрын
I have the 720 also. The twinlock requires routine maintenance to keep things smooth but cant fault it. The sram pressfit bb doesn't last. Have changed to a Hope one - happy days!
@headoverbars8750
@headoverbars8750 4 жыл бұрын
You guys do a bang up job reviewing bikes. Thank you so much for the great content!
@MBRmagazine
@MBRmagazine 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks 🙏
@acelectricalsecurity
@acelectricalsecurity 4 жыл бұрын
£3.5k - £4.5k for a bike, the world has gone mad and i know you can spend more, its just crazy.
@midlifebiker7424
@midlifebiker7424 4 жыл бұрын
I have the older Cube Stereo 160mm and put a coil shock on to improve back end. I also put on a longer stem to improve reach. Still has high standover and short wheelbase keeping it AM rather than enduro. Very light as an Alu and trouble free..
@Pesmog
@Pesmog 4 жыл бұрын
See my comments in reply elsewhere in this thread as I felt the same as you about the rear end. I was attracted to the Cube's because of the short reach that their frames have, but found the rear suspension somehow frustrating and I never really managed to get mine set up correctly despite plenty of advice. I still own another Cube which has been excellent and would recommend their bikes normally.
@orzoo0685
@orzoo0685 4 жыл бұрын
@@Pesmog Do you have the fox rear shock or rockshox?
@esthertuff3140
@esthertuff3140 4 жыл бұрын
I just want him to say....'This one time at band camp'.....
@fahad203
@fahad203 4 жыл бұрын
Very few people who grew up in the 90s would get that reference
@nathanbull7790
@nathanbull7790 4 жыл бұрын
No, you dingbat. You don't just go groping away. You gotta pre-heat the oven before you stick in the turkey.
@plorwax
@plorwax 4 жыл бұрын
Wow. Brings back memories lol
@XCRiders
@XCRiders 4 жыл бұрын
Lol 😂 Guy must be from Canada
@stuco81
@stuco81 4 жыл бұрын
What is that accent!? It's like Irish, English and Canadian mixed together....
@danwilliams783
@danwilliams783 4 жыл бұрын
Scott don't listen to him, keep the Twin-Loc. Love my Genius!
@joshuahubbard7300
@joshuahubbard7300 4 жыл бұрын
Scott....also ditch that 141 QR boost crap. Its sad man, just sad...and hard to buy hubs for.
@danysf3310
@danysf3310 4 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate your Trail-Bike and also Hardtail of the year vids, keep up the good work! ...but honestly at 3500,- pounds for the cheapest bike I certainly don't have "money to play with". I would like to see more obtainable bikes/models and not only the high-end spec carbon ones all the time. thx !
@neil_b4_zod
@neil_b4_zod 4 жыл бұрын
All the bikes have lower specced versions that should have similar characteristics. They will usually share the same specs even if they don't share the same parts.
@MBRmagazine
@MBRmagazine 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Most of the models in the test will have cheaper versions, if that helps. Also, we have a video on the Calibre Bossnut if you’re currently looking for the best entry level full suspension bike. 👍
@AbideinChristSealed
@AbideinChristSealed 4 жыл бұрын
@@MBRmagazine I couldn't find a Bossnut in L or XL for sale anywhere online. Do you know where they could be bought? thanks :)
@Will.Tilcke
@Will.Tilcke 4 жыл бұрын
WW3Revelation6 and13 currently most of the good bikes are out of stock. Wait for October bro
@Alex-md6bu
@Alex-md6bu 4 жыл бұрын
Good reveiws but seems like alot of "old" models and not many of the bikes that have had new frame designs launched this year.
@TomPickup1
@TomPickup1 3 жыл бұрын
I know you discussed the two different sort of people that would go shop or direct but I think one of the main reasons for me and a lot of riders is the finance aspect. Neither I or most of my friends can afford to straight up buy a bike and tend to go shop bought as they have the option of spreading the cost over a few years. If the direct sales company's offered this then I would be more inclined to go that route.
@CobraKyle
@CobraKyle 4 жыл бұрын
I'm getting my Reactor in about a week or two. So stoked to ride it!
@TheNationalTrails
@TheNationalTrails 4 жыл бұрын
👍 SLX 4-Piston on a 2020 Fuel EX 9.8. ( Note: no air-cooled fins on the brake pads.)
@Tequila628
@Tequila628 4 жыл бұрын
I have an eye for such things, when I first saw that Reactor in me utube feed a few months ago, just by the looks of frame design, geometry and angles I knew it's gonna be the next awesome bike to long for.
@rubindublone5932
@rubindublone5932 4 жыл бұрын
Cube themselves say that the stereo 150 is more like a Enduro and the 140 is their trail bike😉
@ryan59979
@ryan59979 4 жыл бұрын
Trek remedy 2020 for the win
@motobasfan3962
@motobasfan3962 4 жыл бұрын
Can you do a 27.5 long travel test? Not just enduro but like all mountain playful bikes
@midlifebiker7424
@midlifebiker7424 4 жыл бұрын
Nukeproof is direct in Oz from Chainreaction/Wiggle, cant buy from any LBS so perhaps this comparison is only valid in UK? Never in stock either.......
@spicypanda3308
@spicypanda3308 4 жыл бұрын
I had cube stereo 140 hpc tm with dpx2 shock. It took me so long to accept how the shock acts firmly ,almost made it harder to bunny hop with.the value is unbeatable ,so ended up ordering the 150 stereo c62 action team.
@kevinross7565
@kevinross7565 4 жыл бұрын
with 130mm being the shortest travel, I guess it means I need more an XC bike. For my geographical location and my style of riding, that's more bike than I'll ever need.
@richknipping647
@richknipping647 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed, 130mm is more than enough where I live on the east coast. 150+mm bikes are just too much to climb with around here
@g496r500t
@g496r500t 4 жыл бұрын
Rich Knipping they’re not too much to climb with, you just don’t have the terrain to make it worth it
@paul_hd1875
@paul_hd1875 4 жыл бұрын
27.5 Canyon Spectral won two years in a row... "how do we make that not happen again?"... feature all 29ers... LOL. You're featuring a "Trail bike of the year" video... 27.5 is a must, not an option. Video should be "29er Trail Bike of the Year".
@finleybakerwhite3953
@finleybakerwhite3953 4 жыл бұрын
Paul_ HD1 aha so true. Just purchased my spectral cf 7 in that dope stealth black. So hypeddd!
@Hunter_Bidens_Crackpipe_
@Hunter_Bidens_Crackpipe_ 4 жыл бұрын
29ers are a failed experiment
@Atomb
@Atomb 4 жыл бұрын
@@Hunter_Bidens_Crackpipe_ I wouldn't go that far. If I were taller, I'd be on a 29er for sure. I loved my 29er, but hated hated the ass rub at my height.
@user-ws9di5kp9h
@user-ws9di5kp9h 4 жыл бұрын
the direct sale bikes are in part 2 of this series
@camwells9726
@camwells9726 4 жыл бұрын
The reactor is available in 27.5 too and is far more playful and fun in that wheel size , depends on your priorities
@macsays2834
@macsays2834 4 жыл бұрын
Ive never really seen Nukeproof as a ‘shop bought’ bike, only ever associated them with CRC, but good to see they are in a few LBS’ :)
@Cous1nJack
@Cous1nJack 4 жыл бұрын
Says vitus if you take the sticker off.
@MBRmagazine
@MBRmagazine 4 жыл бұрын
Not really. The specs might be similar and they might be designed in the same building, but that's it.
@bauke-LV426
@bauke-LV426 4 жыл бұрын
good review, thanks. So easy to listen to you guys. I normally "scan" through reviews like this, but I actually paused to get a cup of tea, get comfortable and listen on :) And of course, I love the reactor 👍
@MBRmagazine
@MBRmagazine 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome, thank you!
@zaniix11
@zaniix11 4 жыл бұрын
For those of us that live in the United states, most of these are not Shop Bikes. They are mostly bikes we have to buy online. I had to buy my Whyte 905 via their U.S online distributor.
@tomascalder6825
@tomascalder6825 4 жыл бұрын
905 great bike,
@phantombigballs8165
@phantombigballs8165 4 жыл бұрын
Well to be fair isn't it a review by a British magazine???
@gabrielchassan8833
@gabrielchassan8833 4 жыл бұрын
Is the scott for me
@lanky3261
@lanky3261 4 жыл бұрын
If i was lucky enough to be able to afford any of these i have to admit i would be more than happy with any of them
@zaskar75
@zaskar75 4 жыл бұрын
Is the scott a cannondale trigger in disguise
@anthonywalters7434
@anthonywalters7434 4 жыл бұрын
I’m really hoping that they cover a Canyon Strive that isn’t a CFR at some point...
@ukbushcraft7533
@ukbushcraft7533 4 жыл бұрын
Is a giant reign 2 any good
@zxtenn
@zxtenn 4 жыл бұрын
Regarding the cost of something like a Canyon VS store bought i had a 2018 Spectral AL. and paid $2400.00 + just under a 100.00 for shipping, however i recently bought a 2019 leftover Rocky Mountain Instinct carbon 90 BC edition that has a list of $6100.00 and i bought it for $3620.00 including shipping. I sold the Spectral, the RM is SO much better, almost no pedal strikes, extremely comfortable seat, etc. 170 VS 175, RM climbs so much better on steeper hills. With the $$$$ i saved i bought some XA carbon wheels, sold the unused stock wheels and RF 800 carbon bars
@GLOBc
@GLOBc 4 жыл бұрын
Good spread of bikes a lot of people are interested in. Couldn't correlate a few comments however... The Sensor having a 'high BB' - it's no higher than the Genius, that is compromised by also being able to run as a 27.5+ (in the stratospheric 'high' postion). Also missed an aspect of the Sensors connection to the Force, being that you can run a 185x55 shock (185x50 stock) on the Sensor if you desire a bit more rear wheel travel without the weight penalty of the all alloy Force 29'er. The Whyte fork comments re: the Pike, is the same chassis as that in the Sensor, uses the same Charger 2 damper (as with a Lyrik) and Debonair air spring (Revelation/Pike/Yari/Lyrik), I'd be looking at setup or a manufacturing issue if the same fork behaved notably different on the 2 bikes in-test, and from experience, even the older Pike with Charger (1) dmaper is a better fork than the likes of the Fox34 on the Genius... The Stereo 150 is really an Enduro machine - if you're calling this a trail bike, then we need the likes of the Trek Slash & Reign 29'er in-test. Would've liked to see a Norco Optic in the mix too... Looking forward to Part 2 (where the Reactor should have been ;) )
@MBRmagazine
@MBRmagazine 4 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it. To respond to your questions, the BB height on the GT is 4mm higher than the Scott (as measured in low positions), but the Scott has more travel (150mm F&R vs 140/130mm F&R on the GT) so given the same sag percentage, the dynamic BB height difference will grow. On the point about the fork, the GT has a Fox 36 fork on the model we tested, not a RockShox. On the Cube, yes, you could classify the Stereo 150 as an enduro bike on travel (although rear travel is same as the Scott) but in terms of geometry, it is actually the shortest and steepest bike on test. Although Nukeproof is a CRC brand, it is sold in dealers. We know a local one that sold six in the last week. Hope that clears a few things up.
@lowlightlowlife
@lowlightlowlife 4 жыл бұрын
Geeky question but what shoes does Alan ride in? Fellow wide footed Vivobarefoot wearer here and I'm having trouble finding anything wide enough to not feel restrictive. Cheers
@deleteelite4594
@deleteelite4594 4 жыл бұрын
I'm getting a trek supercaliber 9.7, should i stick or consider one off these? I'm in the uk!
@nomadcarpenter8549
@nomadcarpenter8549 4 жыл бұрын
Totally different bike
@henriquemarques1573
@henriquemarques1573 4 жыл бұрын
Do a review on the new Propain tyee 29 2020. That would be nice
@jacobmathis5686
@jacobmathis5686 4 жыл бұрын
Missing Revel Rascal, Santa Cruz Hightower, Giant Trance, and of course Specialized Stumpjumper
@mumpf7594
@mumpf7594 4 жыл бұрын
Lyrik damper in a pike fork? I couldn't find anything on the internet :/ Is that really possible?
@gmk2123
@gmk2123 4 жыл бұрын
I'm wondering this as well. Will a Lyrik damper cartridge really fit in a Pike fork? The Rockshox docs do not say they are compatible.
@ZionistInfidel
@ZionistInfidel 4 жыл бұрын
@@gmk2123 Yes, it will work. I have the new Charger 2 damper in a 2016 Pike A1 140mm, works great!
@gmk2123
@gmk2123 4 жыл бұрын
@@ZionistInfidel Interesting... thanks for replying!
@andypazin
@andypazin 4 жыл бұрын
That trial winner. Is it good for urban use?
@Macca78
@Macca78 4 жыл бұрын
My bike the s150 love it last year I did the mega on my freinds s150 just felt so perfect in the race couldn't believe it so had to buy one. And at a bike day whyte was there and sometimes the enduro team run the 150 and alot of them prefer the 150 to the g170 that was from whyte. And not going against what they said but every rider is different and runs there bike different to other people and prefer different feel of other riders when I got on that 150 first time it just right for me felt great if you can test a bike do it 1st you will no when you find your bike
@markhogan9435
@markhogan9435 4 жыл бұрын
I'll stick with my GT!!
@mikem7618
@mikem7618 4 жыл бұрын
No Norco optic?
@octodadmtbmartyrichards2862
@octodadmtbmartyrichards2862 4 жыл бұрын
Sold out
@brianricketts4320
@brianricketts4320 4 жыл бұрын
Anyone notice the Nukeproof Reactor is the 290 Elite, not a 920?
@MBRmagazine
@MBRmagazine 4 жыл бұрын
Sorry - typo!
@darrenmcmurray5392
@darrenmcmurray5392 4 жыл бұрын
Hey good review, I've got a 2019 stereo 150 HPC SL with the rockshox sram kit and I had a stereo 140 HPC TM with the fox kit and have to say I didn't like the dpx2 on the 140, the lyrik and monarch have made a massive difference with the code brakes.
@Pesmog
@Pesmog 4 жыл бұрын
I have owned two Cube Stereos and was never totally happy with the rear suspension on either. When I changed to a Whyte there was a noticeable improvement and it felt more consistent / mature. I think it maybe geometry and not the dampers though, as I have ridden a couple of dozen full suspension mtb's, and have always much preferred those with a horizontal rear damper rather than a vertical one.
@josh300
@josh300 4 жыл бұрын
Pike and Lyrik share the same damper... What are you talking about? There is a difference if using the charger 2.0 or 2.1, but apart from flex (different chasis) you can make them feel almost identical. Until around 2015 most enduro bikes came Pike spected. They worked just fine back then..
@samidd5560
@samidd5560 2 жыл бұрын
I follow you are amazing 👌🤯
@AbideinChristSealed
@AbideinChristSealed 4 жыл бұрын
say bye bye to the last Reactors in stock out there.
@uonadtehrrocks
@uonadtehrrocks 4 жыл бұрын
Did you flip the chip into the lower setting on the GT?
@MBRmagazine
@MBRmagazine 4 жыл бұрын
Yes.
@Hawlkeye-e9p
@Hawlkeye-e9p 4 жыл бұрын
Im 6f2 29ers always scrape my ass on the steeps. I have two 29ers. Sold both. Cut seat tube one 1. But never felt right. Tried mullet. Looked ghetto. Went back to 27.5....thx
@Tequila628
@Tequila628 4 жыл бұрын
I'm also 6.2. Planning to build aggro 29er for "kinda XC" purposes. Starting with the Nukeproof scout 290 frame.
@a.drewwalker9662
@a.drewwalker9662 4 жыл бұрын
So the mullet setup didnt work because it didnt look cool? 6'1" n running mullet, absolutely love it for my FS...
@Hawlkeye-e9p
@Hawlkeye-e9p 4 жыл бұрын
Mullet did work better but i could not get over the look. Thats what drove me to sell the 29ers. Plus if you dont do it right it can mess with bb height. In the end i was like ya im over it. Went back to what worked. 27.5 is lighter stiffer so the decision was kind of made for me.
@asmabahri5827
@asmabahri5827 4 жыл бұрын
Are miwolf bikes good marks ??
@Coerced
@Coerced 4 жыл бұрын
I wonder if reviews wouldn't be much more useful to the average consumer if there was a much smaller emphasis on wheelsize or even components in general. Ofcourse all bikes with the same wheelsize will share a few characteristics but there's so much more to a bike holding speed well in certain conditions or being nimble or poppy with certain rider-input that you might as well divide them into 'moods'. Picking a bike based on wheel size doesn't make much sense when riders haven't experienced both. Even most magazines and companies will advertise their 29'ers as 'playful like a 27,5' or a 27, 5 'composed like a 29'er'. Imagine how you would characterize your experience riding a bike when you had absolutely no idea about its components or even the frame. You could try to break it down into component categories, but what if we broke down the experience in terms of interaction with the bike, the trail, etc - what input gets rewarded with what, etc. Similar to describing a person you spent some time with. It's so different when you focus on stats (length, gender, age, IQ, occupation, whatever) from when you focus on what the experience was like. Similarly, when describing your room, listing its furniture will lead to a very different imagination than when describing its atmosphere and use. I imagine it might even lead to viewers better knowing which reviewer to identify with and understanding what to expect from the bikes themselves. But I might also just be high from imagining myself riding all these awesome bikes :).
@Hawlkeye-e9p
@Hawlkeye-e9p 4 жыл бұрын
Yep 27.5 + 170 fork
@kbeightyseven
@kbeightyseven 4 жыл бұрын
I actually prefer to go to a shop and buy a bike, I prefer the experience, to compare, and to have somewhere to go if something goes wrong, I had a trek frame crack in the past and took it to the shop and i was sorted out without any issues and pretty fast too, not sure I would get that from direct to consumer, my latest bike was from specialized concept store and was an enjoyable experience
@MichaelDreksler
@MichaelDreksler 4 жыл бұрын
Did you test riding *up* the hill as well as coming down? This is at least half the challenge for the rides I do...
@MBRmagazine
@MBRmagazine 4 жыл бұрын
Yes sir. We just didn’t film any climbing for the video. 👍
@bigmikeshooter
@bigmikeshooter 4 жыл бұрын
The Cube is my choise.Hello from Greece.
@pierrebroccoli.9396
@pierrebroccoli.9396 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting about the Scott 920 - I was looking at one myself - many disconnect the fork lockout and just run the rear instead for the reasons you mentioned. Also, I was not impressed with the specking of a Fox 34 for the price. I went with a Trek Slash instead.
@ForkInTheButt
@ForkInTheButt 4 жыл бұрын
How's the slash treating you? I'm waiting for the slash 8 to be available
@pierrebroccoli.9396
@pierrebroccoli.9396 4 жыл бұрын
@@ForkInTheButt Great. Upgraded the Fox 36 Performance with a Luft Klappe kit and it is much better, the small bump compliance is now on par with the Meg Neg upgraded Reaktive SRAM Shock. I have a 32 tooth AbsoluteBlack Chainring on it which hleps with tech climbs but I am finding the SE4 tyres sub par for grip on wet roots and rock. Looking at a Hand Dampf and Nobbi Nic combo with the Nic out back. I did graze the fork stantions on a large rock today but it's just some scratching going down a very techy rocky descent. With the fork mod, she is very playful now in low setting.
@mthe007
@mthe007 4 жыл бұрын
about the dpx on the cube stereo, i have the same experience with the dpx on a rocky mountain bike, and i hear others have the same feeling about it, it might be the dpx overall (which they say also it s a shock hard to tune right)
@Hawlkeye-e9p
@Hawlkeye-e9p 4 жыл бұрын
Im shocked in 2020 the seat tubes dont have guides that keep it all aligned. They need to do something for handlebar and seat alignment.
@nicksknives7777
@nicksknives7777 4 жыл бұрын
I have a pivot trail 429 and it is the best trail bike ive ever ridden may not make the price cut though.
@neil_b4_zod
@neil_b4_zod 4 жыл бұрын
Baller bike, for the guys with a baller budget. Like Santa Cruz it makes your wallet cry lol
@BOTG_Adventures
@BOTG_Adventures 3 жыл бұрын
Whyte S150 C RS 29er ?
@trenthardy7530
@trenthardy7530 4 жыл бұрын
The genius would win this
@schwagier
@schwagier 4 жыл бұрын
I think you forgot trail is not downhill. If Scott is the lightest and the most versatile, then it should win and you should not say it is not sturdy enough - in the end you need both traction going down and efficiency going up, plus the traction mode is a bonus. Or maybe nukeproof paid you?;) or you just like the bikes from Michigan more. Why there is no Dartmoor in the comparison?
@rosskline
@rosskline 4 жыл бұрын
So what's the deal with XT brakes? Air leakage?
@MBRmagazine
@MBRmagazine 4 жыл бұрын
We think it's a combination of the position of the transfer port in the lever, and the pistons being reset as the rotor flexes in corners.
@chaotictattoo
@chaotictattoo 4 жыл бұрын
It’s funny because I know tons of people that love 27.5 over 29ers. But This is KZbin and people love certain brands on here and according to KZbin the names make the bike better
@camwells9726
@camwells9726 4 жыл бұрын
I have the mega , awesome bike , anybody out there done a fair bit of riding on the reactor and the mega to make a comparison?
@reeceabob8555
@reeceabob8555 4 жыл бұрын
Very excited for hardtail of the year 2020
@MBRmagazine
@MBRmagazine 4 жыл бұрын
We're trying to organise now, but with so many models sold out, it's proving challenging.
@reeceabob8555
@reeceabob8555 4 жыл бұрын
@@MBRmagazine yes. Right now I'm looking at the Vitus Nucleus 27 VRS because its one of the best bikes i could find under $750 but its sold out everywhere. Vitus said it should be in stock soon on their Facebook page, though.
@animenatsu999
@animenatsu999 4 жыл бұрын
what do you think about Focus Jam?
@MBRmagazine
@MBRmagazine 4 жыл бұрын
We haven't tested the Jam, but we really liked the Sam when we rode it.
@rlove21
@rlove21 4 жыл бұрын
Has the part 2, direct bikes test been uploaded yet?
@MBRmagazine
@MBRmagazine 4 жыл бұрын
Not yet - hopefully in a week or so 👍
@jacobusdegroot7557
@jacobusdegroot7557 4 жыл бұрын
It’s up now.
@The44kGaming
@The44kGaming 4 жыл бұрын
And I'm here thinking about 27'5" Trance 2 (2020) is it good choice... ? Can you guys tell me please, Is that a good bike?? I don't want to spend money on something that later I will regret...
@tonyrodeo3321
@tonyrodeo3321 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve got the Trance 2 29er, great bike. Very similar to the Scott 920 on here. Good components SLX etc and lightweight. Can’t complain 👍🏻
@MBRmagazine
@MBRmagazine 4 жыл бұрын
We haven't tested the 27.5in bikes, but here's a review on the 29er. www.mbr.co.uk/reviews/full-suspension-bikes/giant-trance-29
@The44kGaming
@The44kGaming 4 жыл бұрын
@@MBRmagazine Thanks! 🔥
@Pixelements
@Pixelements 4 жыл бұрын
Elite or Factory for a beginner? Looking for the best value + future proof. Money is no object, but still don’t want to waste money..
@MBRmagazine
@MBRmagazine 4 жыл бұрын
You’ll be fine on the Elite. Spend the money you save on some coaching or a trip somewhere (when it becomes possible again) 👍
@James-yy4vl
@James-yy4vl 4 жыл бұрын
Nice in-depth comparison 👍
@nomadcarpenter8549
@nomadcarpenter8549 4 жыл бұрын
I have a s150, why dont you guys mention the rear end flex.
@frenk5690
@frenk5690 4 жыл бұрын
When is part 2 coming online? Direct sale trail bikes? ;-)
@MBRmagazine
@MBRmagazine 4 жыл бұрын
It's being edited next week, so should be up on Sunday 14th June.
@midlifebiker7424
@midlifebiker7424 4 жыл бұрын
@@MBRmagazine can you include the Reactor as both the benchmark and being direct for a lot of us outside the UK.
@jacobusdegroot7557
@jacobusdegroot7557 4 жыл бұрын
It’s up now.
@mariomaravilla6737
@mariomaravilla6737 4 жыл бұрын
Are you doing a review on YT Jeffsy this year?
@MBRmagazine
@MBRmagazine 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, it's in part 2, which should be live on Sunday.
@meteormedia7021
@meteormedia7021 4 жыл бұрын
No Merida One-Twenty?
@neil_b4_zod
@neil_b4_zod 4 жыл бұрын
Meteor Media I thought that was an XC bike isn’t it?
@octodadmtbmartyrichards2862
@octodadmtbmartyrichards2862 4 жыл бұрын
It’s a very fast down county bike!
@irockuroll60
@irockuroll60 4 жыл бұрын
Where is ibis, pivot, Santa Cruz, yeti...etc
@MrOitoyboy
@MrOitoyboy 4 жыл бұрын
irockuroll60 obviously there wasn’t enough girls and free beer at their press weekender! Or the bikes weren’t good enough this year.
@TheLelol
@TheLelol 4 жыл бұрын
You should appreciate the low weight of the scott and not complain about it being not speced burly enough. There is a small part of riders out there who does not want to crawl to the top of the hill with a heavy enduro bike. More than the half of a typical bike ride is uphill. You really feel the lower weight there.
@MBRmagazine
@MBRmagazine 4 жыл бұрын
The Scott could fit a 36 to the Genius and it would still have been the lightest bike on test.
@jacobusdegroot7557
@jacobusdegroot7557 4 жыл бұрын
How would a Genius 910 stack up in the scoring?
@biasbilt
@biasbilt 4 жыл бұрын
More than half is uphill? My car is always where I left it, so exactly half... 😂
@jamesharmer4253
@jamesharmer4253 4 жыл бұрын
To be fair Whyte tend to only be about 10% more expensive than a direct sales brand as far as I can tell and in the UK at least you have the advantage of 0% interest finance through a range of retailers that isn't offered by many, if any, direct sales brands.
@shemshem9998
@shemshem9998 4 жыл бұрын
I want the focus jam to be in here, but I guis it’s not popular enough
@midlifebiker7424
@midlifebiker7424 4 жыл бұрын
I have the older GT Sensor and put a 160mm fork on. So much better geo.
@Jaymachine
@Jaymachine 4 жыл бұрын
Really like the review platform! but come on, you don’t notice 1.5mm bb drop from going to 2.5” tires on 150mm bike.
@AirtimeAaron
@AirtimeAaron 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe consumers who want to buy from a shop actually want to support the industry rather than hand everything over to direct sales and close all the bike shops? Something more and more media outlets seem to be doing is not worrying about the industry and just throw out the whole direct bikes are better? What about warranties or customer service? Because in my experience direct sales sucks on that part!
@MBRmagazine
@MBRmagazine 4 жыл бұрын
That is literally one of the reasons we split the test into two parts, and we even talk about it at the start of the video. People can make up their own minds whether they want to save cash up front, or pay for that one-to-one service. And you cannot generalise about pre or post-sales service - some peope have had great service from a direct sales brand and shoddy service from a shop. Equally there will be people who have experienced the reverse, and everyone's experience will be slightly different.
@Extremegaz25
@Extremegaz25 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent reviews guys.
@bridg3burn3r
@bridg3burn3r 4 жыл бұрын
Huh, the Norco Optic is trail bike of the year isn't it?
@octodadmtbmartyrichards2862
@octodadmtbmartyrichards2862 4 жыл бұрын
Yes it is. But it’s sold out, in New Zealand anyway
@bridg3burn3r
@bridg3burn3r 4 жыл бұрын
@@octodadmtbmartyrichards2862 Ill have to stay on my 2018 Sight..
@MIKESTREED
@MIKESTREED 4 жыл бұрын
Hightower, stump jumper, and sb130, the best 3, are missing...
@jimborainbird2311
@jimborainbird2311 4 жыл бұрын
There was me thinking Nukeproof was an on-line retailer???????
@MBRmagazine
@MBRmagazine 4 жыл бұрын
You can buy Nukeproof bikes in dealers 👍
@jayashkumar5941
@jayashkumar5941 Жыл бұрын
Amazed
@TheBeeker36
@TheBeeker36 4 жыл бұрын
You should do one on hard tail trail bikes not just full suspension trail bikes
@MBRmagazine
@MBRmagazine 4 жыл бұрын
We do a Hardtail of the Year test as well, but due to COVID-19, hardtails have almost completely sold out, so we're postponing it.
@jasonwilliams7976
@jasonwilliams7976 4 жыл бұрын
How about trail 429?
@eugenescotcher1223
@eugenescotcher1223 4 жыл бұрын
No Canyon Spectral or YT Jeffsy in the 2020 line up? I guess they have pulled back advertising in MBR..LOL
@MBRmagazine
@MBRmagazine 4 жыл бұрын
lolz. They're both direct-sales brands, so they're in part 2 of the test.
@raycraver5741
@raycraver5741 4 жыл бұрын
I take it you didn’t include the Ibis Ripley V4 because it just wouldn’t be fair. Obviously nothing compares to Ibis in any class. So this is just a second place comparison really.
@ozziejim8472
@ozziejim8472 4 жыл бұрын
...... and all out of my budget!
@MBRmagazine
@MBRmagazine 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe check out our entry-level suspension bike test video 👍
@kaseyburlingham2861
@kaseyburlingham2861 4 жыл бұрын
Bike store bikes are for doctors and lawyers who don't know much about mountain biking. Direct sales and second-hand are for the rest of us!
@sk33fe
@sk33fe 4 жыл бұрын
@ognjenr536
@ognjenr536 4 жыл бұрын
Trueew
@nathangonzlaez2
@nathangonzlaez2 4 жыл бұрын
Jesus 4k for a bike ya let me get right on that
@EnglertRacing96
@EnglertRacing96 4 жыл бұрын
The Canadian's random upward inflection is unbearable.
@EnglertRacing96
@EnglertRacing96 4 жыл бұрын
@Phillip1310 yes, Canadians are notorious for making a statement sound like a question by emphasizing the end of a sentence or tacking on an "aye?". However this guy appears to doing it randomly.
@jeremiah-lo-mein
@jeremiah-lo-mein 4 жыл бұрын
Shop bought pay more get less! Just go ahead and say it.
@martincantwell2557
@martincantwell2557 4 жыл бұрын
Fact
@Will.Tilcke
@Will.Tilcke 4 жыл бұрын
If you don’t count service and advice.
@leonklei6393
@leonklei6393 4 жыл бұрын
They did?
@gazmo147
@gazmo147 4 жыл бұрын
Shop bought means you trade a bit of spec for advice, ability to try multiple bikes, have it set up for you and get support with servicing and warranty when you need it. Value depends on how much you value the advice and aftercare as explained in this video.
@pjsanab
@pjsanab 4 жыл бұрын
gazmo147 nope. Local shops don’t have any demo’s. They have a 3 to 4 week wait list to service the bike. They’re snobs that can’t ride at all. I have learned to do my own repairs, and go out to events like Outerbike to be able to demo multiple bikes back to back.
@takegoodcareoftheforestdew5339
@takegoodcareoftheforestdew5339 4 жыл бұрын
Please please coach Alan to stop talking like a cali teenage girl... where... Literally... Everything he says... is a question. He has some great observations, but listening to him voice them is incredibly irritating... Which is a real shame.
@edwardbarth8237
@edwardbarth8237 4 жыл бұрын
I feel bad for saying it but I have a hard time concentrating on the information as well.
@PeteMac69
@PeteMac69 4 жыл бұрын
Yep, that high pitch finish to nearly every sentence is killer! Shame, the info he gives out is very good...if only I could concentrate on it!
@Petrolhead912
@Petrolhead912 4 жыл бұрын
Had to to stop it half way through, couldn’t listen to it anymore
@Soandsoguy
@Soandsoguy 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this comment. I totally agree.
@lynngraycom
@lynngraycom 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for not including 27.5, clearly the industry and riders are moving on from tweener bikes, despite some holdouts.
@Jay-jn3sl
@Jay-jn3sl 4 жыл бұрын
27.5 is perfect for flicking around. Not everyone likes big wheels, especially short people.
@weichentechnikk8083
@weichentechnikk8083 4 жыл бұрын
lol tweener bikes GTFO ...tell that to Cam Zink and his YT pro-colleagues who ride 26" in the back
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