Training to Failure Might Cause More Growth Than We Thought!?

[@Article15Angling]

What about training as a failure? Can I get jacked from being a disappointment to my family?

[@granitegreg7883]

😬

[@Article15Angling]

@granitegreg7883 someone has to do it 🤷‍♂️

[@michaelwells4757]

😂 ehhh ohhh

[@gabriellongworth]

HA! 🤪

[@nahyoulyin]

yes harness the feelings and get to it

[@gramsterdam88]

Ah you think failure is your ally? You merely adopted failure. I was born a failure, molded by it.

[@octaviosalazar5221]

I didn't see failure until I was already advanced, by then it was nothing to me but grinding!

[@DM-qd7gw]

I've been failing longer than anyone in the comment section. If failure was a religion I would be both Moses and Jesus.....and Jesus' dad

[@eddiealexander6066]

When you get more advanced, your 2-3 from failure are actually hard AF. True failure, it's another level.

[@WaylonFox]

@@octaviosalazar5221Genius. Good work man

[@dand928]

Brilliant

[@MariusFutureProBodybuilder]

Coach greg is already preparing a 5 hour episode from the title alone(code Greg 15% off)

[@NeuronIron]

not 5 hours. more like 50 10 min vids

[@winstonsmith11]

Nice physique, bro 💪

[@codynorton9691]

😂😂😂 i must be great at silence i lose a nail to hammer blow at work about once every couple years at work

[@lukeamartins]

Is that a height discount?

[@adamw9248]

“Failure isn’t an option, it’s a requirement.” - Dom Mazzetti like 10 years ago.

[@Ryush806]

Bro Science proved right yet again

[@fingolfin9086]

Brofessor still undefeated

[@Alibaba10-223]

That’s why people train close to me!!

[@micker9830]

Hahaha 🤣

[@kriswalker4865]

😂

[@patricktallent9]

Underrated comment

[@KatrinVockewind]

Dude, that is so funny!

[@Sulamanjansulttaani]

I thought it was for your amazing kebabs

[@TheM16riot]

This shit changes every other week lmao

[@Garrettdx1988]

I find it's best to train to failure. Just ensures that I'm working hard enough

[@baby-sheesh]

I swear bruh

[@registrado54]

Damn its almost like mike said that science is educated guesses being more accurate than the last one 🤯

[@THG-3141]

Yeah, they update their opinions with new information. Something you obviously have a problem with. This is how science works. New information always matters and changes what we understand

[@joojotin]

None of this is new and the science has been clear for a long time, hasnt changed in forever. Only those who try to gain financially clickbait and lead their audiences astray to make things look like more complicated. If you follow the right people you would know none of these studeis change anything.

[@trevorfloyd7313]

2:08 Pharmacist here - NSAIDs, such as Ibuprofen, have a plateau effect. Meaning that going past the recommended max dose does not really yield any additional benefit. However, it will increase your risk of side effects such as an Acute GI bleed.

[@MarcoIsBig]

Getting close to muscle failure on many of your sets is a great way to ensure you're training hard. This will usually lead to more muscle growth.

[@sheldoncooper8199]

@MarcoisBig For Naturals that Train longer then 2 Years it is the ONLY Way to Force or Trigger muscle growth.

[@tiagorodrigues515]

​@@sheldoncooper8199 hmm that's not true bro

[@MarcoIsBig]

@@sheldoncooper8199 Naturals that are starting off can grow just fine getting stronger in higher rep ranges without pushing close to failure. Even some of them can grow with low rep sets, this was not the case for me.

[@jazzyje5ter223]

@@sheldoncooper8199RAH RAH RAH UR WRONG RAHHHHHHHHHH. Two dumbasses above you need to stop talking

[@jazzyje5ter223]

@@MarcoIsBigdid you even read the first sentence

[@freddym6643]

Training to failure is the only thing that numbs the pain of existence

[@punxsutawneyphil3944]

That's beautiful.

[@coyomedia1310]

That’s facts

[@bellliberty4500]

That's profoundly accurate and also t shirt worthy

[@ek3281]

Those who Know Know 👊

[@jamesstrom6991]

i don’t know about that, but when you work a tedious hardbrainwork job all day, lifting is pure zen

[@JamesSmith-dn8lb]

I fail to train daily and ive gained 35 lbs of mass this year.

[@XanderYTV]

technically some of it would be lean body mass so many of these flawed studies would consider you to be getting jacked

[@ar71498]

Dr. Mike your advice helped me get my arms the biggest they've ever been. You're the GOAT fitness person on KZbin

[@Steven-jn2cw]

Can you help me I struggle with arms

[@Guitar_Wolf]

I know you're winning more debates now! Big arms is the answer to every question 😂

[@ar71498]

@@Steven-jn2cw full range of motion, slow repetitions, and always have that mind muscle connection going. Changed the game

[@brianhartman7135]

I think Mike Mentzer was absolutely correct when he stated that the most growth stimulation happens when the body has to reach in its reserves for those last final reps. It's at THAT point in which the body will try to compensate the most. Most people do reps to a slight burn or discomfort but try going to failure or near failure and your gains will skyrocket.

[@TheBrick534]

Yeup. I even find it useful to go beyond using myoreps like Dr. Mike uses frequently. Reach 1 or 0 RIR. Rest 5-10 seconds, perform another 1-2 quality reps. Even just THIS alone has had an awesome effect on my training and growth.

[@timmian85]

I think when Mentzer talked about failure it was dorian yates/tom platz intensity lol. Very few people can go that hard - i sure as shit cant.

[@lmdoinraysmom]

They still don’t know much tbh. I get more gains when i don’t go to failure vs. failure. Its very obvious to me

[@deansilva8401]

Mentzer was a hack

[@jayvinwilliams8508]

Failure and slight burn are very very different, like between 3-5 reps from each other. Someone who trains a rep or two from failure are a in a different world than people who train to a slight discomfort in both their growth and their pain from the set

[@markaveliRising]

I was literally about to turn it off for bedtime then I heard Dr Mike say he was on the Price is Right and used his Judaism force to win the day, and I was like 😮 ok we can stay up for a minute or 2

[@therealneal6567]

Training to failure just seems the thing to do TO ME. You just have to manage the total weekly volume to balance the fatigue and not accrue too much joint stress.

[@montanez619]

Yes train to failure. Easiest way for true gains. Done.

[@lanekaasa5426]

Coach Greg is gonna love this

[@silverhost9782]

The man loves anything that he can use for easy content

[@lanekaasa5426]

@ true

[@Dannyjones1]

Who is coach greg

[@Biggus_Mickus]

@@Dannyjones1 Imagine a sunburnt scrotum that sounds like nails on a chalkboard.

[@lanekaasa5426]

@ another fitness guy his channel is Greg doucette

[@dwigtschrude]

Makes sense. I’ve always found training beyond failure works better for me than anything and honestly just feels the best. Call me crazy but I love hobbling out of the gym hardly able to drive home

[@harrybauls4315]

Finally, one of the datadriven guys. Hope this is part of a longer podcast or I'm going to REEEEE

[@flyingpersian]

It's definitely part of a longer podcast because all of the clips of this style are eventually released as a long form podcast

[@gigsirlot6226]

How old are u bro stop paying for membership with ur parents card

[@harrybauls4315]

@@gigsirlot6226 I used ur moms card bro. I'll return it when i see her for some compassionate touching

[@SCW_Fitness]

It seems that the key to substantial muscle growth is long term performance increases of those muscles. I think the question should be, does training to failure or reps in reserve lead to better long term increments in performance for you. Whichever approach is better for this will likely give you the most growth.

[@Mmc00123]

I love this format thank you

[@paulx7620]

Enjoy your youth, training closer to failure more often takes more out of you as you age. I miss recovery.

[@Dannyjones1]

Never really understood the "reps in reserve" anyway. Go all out in every set. Sure you may get fatigued quicker, but you get more bang for your buck in each set.

[@jpx1897]

Then add myo-reps, more approaches to failure in a shorter time-frame - much better results.

[@JoeBlow-mw5oo]

im 50, 6 day ppl, I do every set of isolation work to failure. 20 sets at minimum per week per muscle. no problem with recovery (8-12ish reps mostly). the only things I don't hit total failure is heavy hinges and squats I don't understand why some people can't recover I am by no means gifted (or on gear)

[@locomike102]

Completely agree. I honestly think people have terrible conditioning which keeps them from being able to recover effectively. I'm 49, lift 2-0 RIR every set, about 15 sets/week per body part, and have zero problem with recovery, but I can also run a sub 2-hour half-marathon at 5'-8" and 205 pounds.

[@sirloin9348]

Right there with you.

[@abhisohal4556]

Mikes mentioned this in other videos. Usually when people say they dont have a problem with fatigue, they just have bad form or don’t actually hit muscular failure.

[@seandupuie3552]

I've found in my experience of working in masonry for a number of years that I've never been stronger when it was lower weight in lots of repetition. 50-70 hours a week either shoveling dirt or carrying 8" blocks all day. 8" blocks are 42# each, then moving into jobs that required 12" blocks/ 72# each. I realized at around 175# i could stack 2 12" blocks laying flat and reach down and pick them up from the center web and carry 4 at a time. 144# on each arm. We did lots of stone work and would move tons of stone per week, picking up a 250# stone from the ground to my chest was nothing. Years later i ended up selling around 400 cords of firewood one winter 5 Cord at a time. I decided to count how many pieces of firewood it took to make 5 cord. It was around 2200 pieces. That amounts to approximately 160,000 pieces over around a 4 month period. After that I could curl a 70# dumbbell in each hand and curl 135# on the bar for reps. I couldn't believe it. At that time I was around 190# i realize everyone is different but this has been my experience in being the strongest ive ever been

[@Neotenico]

I've always trained to failure, not because I care so much about gains, but because the thought of being crushed really gets a pump going in my corpora cavernosa.

[@zamininc3223]

Thank you Greg!

[@alternate3787]

What I take from this is that besides volume, which I should take on as much as I am realistically able to recover from, training close to failure acts as a sort of volume thats seems to be benificial, as long as I am able to recover from it with no further downsides for the workout while I do it. Its just another variable to take notice of.

[@MonkeyKingsformerroomate]

Getting whiplash from all these title variations. One week it seems like it's failure, next it's close to failure. I do close but I don't seem to have the discipline to keep my form tidy when I go to failure.

[@BIG_SCAM]

How else are they gonna get people to listen to these drawn out videos every week?

[@ScottishLord2]

Wow great episode. Super informative. ❤

[@dukenukem8381]

I swear Mike changes his mind every week.

[@SuPeRHeRoDuDe3124]

He's not changing his mind, he is reading/discussing academic studies....

[@dukenukem8381]

​@@SuPeRHeRoDuDe3124 Have you read Mike's phd ? Introduction is about as basic and not academic as it gets.

[@SuPeRHeRoDuDe3124]

@@dukenukem8381 okay? What does that have to do with the study they are talking about dumbass?

[@asyncrosaurus]

Jared Feather is such an impressive body builder because of how close he is to Dr. Mike.

[@strycskala4191]

Jared is good because he does not train like mike lol

[@SpiritRoot]

@@strycskala4191 Mike trains 5 RIR but calls it 0 RIR

[@misterzero8667]

Jared is a pro who has won nothing hardly impressive at that level and Mike never became a pro , you would think people that know everything and juice like crazy would be better

[@sirloin9348]

​@@misterzero8667doesn't matter how much you know if your genetics won't allow it. Bodybuilding is largely determined by genetics. Knowledge won't change that

[@Kankerpatient123]

@@sirloin9348I’ll be honest I like dr Mike but if I stopped training to failure all the time with moderate volume and followed strictly mikes philosophy of training I’d be smaller 100%

[@aleksaleks8342]

no way the bros were right all along.. i suppose using a mix of science & bro knowledge is the best way

[@strategicsage7694]

Not at all. this is not what 'the bros' have been saying. It's just slightly closer to that than the previous understanding. It actually adds to the body of evidence saying 'always go to failure' is also not best.

[@kennykimono]

Let’s go training to failure wins! But ultimately effort is king that’s been obvious from day 1

[@FUMES_-]

Definitely needed this video. 2025 is gonna be the Year of Gains💪🏼

[@XanderYTV]

14:35 Late Night With The Devil reference

[@dogs-game-too]

Hey Dr Mike, any chance you'd review Kurzegat's video on exercise? The TLDR I got was that your body will adjust to exercise and find calorie savings like having you nod off, unless you *really* push your body to change. This makes me feel like exercise doesn't work for weight loss unless you really commit to it which I and many others have trouble with for various reasons

[@SeuOu]

The NEAT decrease compensation is real, but it's not 100%, and it doesn't kick in until you do significant cardio. Most people can do about 300 calories of cardio in a day without really affecting their NEAT. It will always be more effective to simply eat less than to exercise more for weightloss.

[@johnnysake8052]

It's called NEAT. If you exercise too hard, your body makes up for it by "doing less", whether you like it or not. However, Dr Mike and most successful trainers would agree; exercise is NOT going to be your main driver for weight loss. Remember, it's about calories in vs calories out at its most basic form. The best way to tip the scale toward weight loss is caloric restriction. AKA, gains are made in the gym and in the bed, abs are made in the KITCHEN.

[@DjDolHaus86]

Exercise doesn't do a great deal for weight loss, the actual calorific requirement of working your muscles isn't all that much. Blast out half an hour on an exercise bike going as hard as you can and it's maybe 150kcal which can be wiped out in a can of soda. Obviously this is better than not having burned those calories but it's a far harder way to change the calories in/calories out balance than simply eating less or eating better. The other problem is that like being muscular, your body remembers being fat at a cellular level so it's very easy to get fat again if you fall off the diet wagon. Diet knocks the clay off the mould, exercise shapes the iron underneath.

[@VargVikernes1488]

eat less

[@SBavailablehandle]

If they could video document each portion of the study and show videos of how each RIR comparison looks people could better decide to believe or dismiss the study. It'd likely draw more interest and maybe even generate revenue from views and fuel future studies.

[@YMESYDT]

I train my gym bro’s glutes to failure and I’ve noticed a great deal of growth each time

[@jpx1897]

Mikey is right there with you on this one.

[@feefo12]

Diabolical growth 😂🍆🍑

[@Guitar_Wolf]

I'm growing right now just from reading this 🍑 👅

[@asdfsdfawefssfdfdfd]

Your sad little homophobic jokes wont help your gains

[@PopssssDIY]

On another note, I tell my self big chest to keep myself in the correct position… that shit helps and thanks!

[@elstongunn1458]

“More than we thought?” “Not as good as we thought.” “Maybe it does more than we have thought.” Trinity progression for pretty much every exercise science video around.

[@lominefe]

Every evening, I find myself waiting for a new RP strength video... I never get disappointed 👏👏

[@AlextsarDiary]

When I saw your thumbnail all I thought: oh my that's a true psychotic maniac big and nasty hulk, but I like him😂😂

[@LouDez]

I just stop when I can’t or shouldn’t do another rep. Don’t even count my reps anymore after 20yrs. Dig the science stuff too tho

[@KJVII]

Next week: reps in reserve actually boost growth by 30%

[@ShakeNBlake513]

Mike Mentzer told us this. Rip mike

[@asdfsdfawefssfdfdfd]

Fuck that meth head, not that mike is much more reliable

[@nroldan]

25:34 can I get the sound clip a little higher

[@jpx1897]

Mikey, how to I tan to failure?

[@bladegaming7928]

Push hard

[@combatcritique]

So should you go to failure or not?? I feel like the science changes too frequently

[@EduIsCooking]

Kind of. Let's just take it from a "bro" perspective: training to failure provides enough stimulus for muscle growth by causing microtears in the muscle fibers, which leads to adaptation and size increase. But let's not confuse this with ego lifting-lifting more than you can handle with poor form...Partials can also lead to growth but it must still be controlled. Your muscles need progressively more intensity over time in order to get bigger/stronger(the principle of progressive overload, whether it’s through heavier weights, more reps, shorter rest, or changes in tempo/technique)

[@tommills9006]

Stop following the science and stick to the tried and tested methods that have worked for decades

[@m1l22]

@@tommills9006science is tried and tested….

[@EduIsCooking]

@@tommills9006 That's true too. People are so focused on "optimization" that they're forgetting what really needs to be done. But science isn't bad. It can teach us things like injury prevention

[@spinf0rk]

If you NEVER go to failure you don't actually know how close you are coming to it. And you need to train at least close to failure to get results. So it's a good idea to at least sometimes take things to failure.

[@MrMadact]

These studies seem all seem to gloss over the question "what works best for strength in the long term" - probably because that's harder to study. There's a lot of generalisation (e.g. bigger muscles correlate with more strength), and when it comes to explaining why some people can manage competitive strongman feats without being visibly bulky there's a lot of speculation (e.g. muscle insertion / connection points) but it would be nice to see more research directly studying it. I know this channel is geared to bodybuilding, but I think many people find getting strong a core motivation and are satisfied but not so motivated by whatever muscle size comes along with that. The question of what one should focus on after the first year or two to emphasise strength (both in absolute terms and strength per quantity of muscle) is an interesting one which doesn't seem to have as much direct evidence (?), or at least gets less coverage, and I'd love to see that discussed more.

[@dakotasonney2142]

To failure? I am THE failure

[@bobbydreg5597]

Walter White?

[@SCOTT-ki3ve]

I have always gone to as close as safe to failure. Just seems intuitive. I’m not jacked or cut, but for my frequency diet and age(53), I’m pretty good

[@IrishMexican]

More examinations that yield the same result doesn’t necessarily imply higher probability of accuracy. Could be indicative of a consistent pattern of biases, excluded confounders, etc.

[@charlesmorgan9706]

Coach Greg is preparing a reaction video right now

[@funnyfalala]

Another great vid. But with the upcoming holidays and new years resolutoions I'm hoping for a new recipe from Dr. Mike's Kitchen. Can't live on Ricearoni & Broc Slaw snd Layered Cake forever....! 😂

[@pacmanrespector9552]

Glad that "science based lifting" is finally catching up to what bro science has been preaching for like 6 decades now

[@gattt1141]

nah

[@MrStudman73]

people say this and then point to like one person saying it years ago as if all Bro science people were saying it in unison and that it's the exact same thing as people confirming it with actual studies

[@silverhost9782]

People who say stuff like this are just showing that they fundamentally don't know what 'science' actually is/means

[@johnnysake8052]

It's funny bc bro science lifters literally split into countless sub populations/methods. And science bros/studies are literally trying to narrow the shit down lol.

[@incredulouschordate]

When did the science ever say otherwise?

[@somelatinpoet]

IT'S NOT DOGSHIT!! IT'S NICE!

[@zhongxina3052]

I love you Mike.

[@wojciechkolber4675]

Turns out Lyle McDonald was correct in the end xD

[@jamesstrom6991]

i don’t care what the research says. better gains or not. part of the joy of lifting is hitting your limit and seeing how hard you can push yourself. summoning that last bit of energy. did Arnold look like he was keeping something in “reserve”? hell no!

[@SolidConstructionServices]

Dr. Mike, can you make a video on what blood markers to order and get as the standard blood work performed by the physician doesn’t checks for levels of estrogen, testosterone, and so on

[@chayansharma680]

Mike mentzer smiling from heaven

[@willswanson2145]

Common sense guys. It is much more preferable to undertrain than it is to overtrain (in terms of volume). Overtraining by just a little bit can completely stall growth. Under training may just result in slightly slower results, but still results. I would take slow results over no results. Now you must test for yourself to fine tune what your body is capable of handling. Not because some study says a certain amount of volume is right.

[@ek3281]

All About Failure. A True Master of Beyond Failure. Failure is Life. Good to Know 👊😁😂

[@JustSomeGuy69420]

This has to be the most tiresome topic in the weight training world. Here's the trick everyone... If you go to failure or "beyond", do fewer sets. If you leave reps in the tank, you should do more sets. You can go progressively closer to failure in your sets as your mesocycle goes on...OR NOT...lots of people got jacked without periodizing in that way. You can play with all the variables, as long as the scales even out at the end...you'll be fine. Can I have a PhD now?

[@aspecty9413]

mike mentzer 🗿🔥

[@HasanabiFangirl]

i LOVE training as a failure too🎉

[@davesprivatelounge]

eyoo a hasChatter in the wild

[@jdanielortega]

In the olden days we had 6 months-1 Year between scientific breakthroughs that are industry changing, today this shit happens every two weeks.

[@craigauty6756]

Does the CNS adapt like your metabolism? If so then sure more stimulus will equate to more growth, and fatigue won't be long term issue as long as the CNS can adapt to more stress

[@masonprophet6396]

20:25 "cranking to failure" my man

[@mertonhirsch4734]

The biggest problem I still see is that most factors in human performance and response have an inverted U shaped graph, so the guy thinking he's at 0 RIR who's really at 2 RIR can be supporting the case for 0 RIR when in fact 0 RIR might be worse for him. There is also the issue of exercises requiring higher neural drive like squats which may cause more neurological inroads at higher RIR than machines or single joint exercises where the added neural fatigue is reduced. Lastly, what about the concept of the 0RIR rep, the one that you fail on. Pushing against failure for several seconds at 0 RIR versus terminating a rep because you know it's not going to happen corresponds to a huge difference in fatigue, maybe more than the difference between 5 RIR and a mere

[@gekkosoldier8278]

I feel as long as you are puting in effort all rep ranges and weights are fine as long as you don't try doing weights that are so heavy they are not a (risk to your joints) I think the best way to test your weight that you can lift for gains is what can you lift for 10-12-15 reps for 2-3-4 sets this is probably the meta for build without injury which is usally cause by going heavy too soon and mostly good for powerlifting and not to much good for build inital size to start with.Probably my favorite style is 15 reps or more at 3 to 4 sets but if my rep range dips to about 30% then I will be done for that muscle for the day.

[@WhatAMagician]

There is nothing magical about failure. But if your muscle fails you’ve gotten total recruitment and the strongest growth stimulus. You can never go to failure and just add more volume but going to failure is the most efficient. Failure works best on new lifters relative to more advanced because new lifters don’t know how to push and going to failure guarantees they actually have the reps in reserve (0) that they think they do.

[@hyeongjinoh584]

Could you provide your subscribers with the abstract of this lengthy discussion?

[@AlanWil2]

My wife laughs at me when I can't walk up the stairs at home. SMH How else can a person train and get jacked if they're not going to failure?

[@oskarakaable]

Mike's shirt kinda looks like a subtle QAnon shirt

[@andrewcheng1998]

Using rir in strength training sounds odd though. It can feel like rpe8 but not 1 rep in the tank.

[@gravshark]

its literally the same concept just described from one direction or another lol

[@milosbrkanovic948]

Why would you do more sets with less rir if less sets with 0-1 rir do the same job? Genuinely curious.

[@fundamentality]

A (plausible) Conspiracy Theory: Mike Mentzer is not dead, he just disguised himself as the other guy in this video.

[@CptApplestrudl]

Im currently trying this in a PPL program. Each part only once a week but to utter failure. I often get sore and it stays for ~3 days, so Im not really worried about the 1x per week rythm right now.

[@rogerbartels5690]

Statistical significance should be viewed as more of a continuum than arbitrary cutoffs (I'm well aware of the convention). What were the actual p values for the RIR comparisons?

[@moradsadik820]

can you do episode on difference principale between training for hyperthrophy and strength

[@bernardvance9041]

I generally do three sets per exercise, stair step the weights from 12 reps to 6-8, and the last set is always to absolute failure. I've gotten the best growth of my life doing this. Super controlled on th eccentric as well. Dorian Yates knew a thing or two about how to build mass. Thi is exactly what he did.

[@Jellybane1]

I can’t wait to watch 50 Greg Doucette videos on this one video. Thank you Greg *Mike Israetel eating his bar meme*

[@davidpena1495]

for growth and best results failure is your best bet

[@aethylwulfeiii6502]

Training ever set to failure might be unsustainable. Especially if you are mixing in formal cardiovascular training, and fairly moderate to high volumes. Training every set to failure could cause burn out.

[@casperskeierdland6242]

Question related to newbie gains; is it a time thing or is it a portion of muscle that you gain easier in the very beginning of training? Like do you just run through the newbie gains phase faster if you optimize your training and diet as much as you can? Or can you get more of the easier to get newbie gains before you've been training for so long that the gains slow down noticeably? Is it more a limited amount of newbie gains units you have available or a newbie gains time limit?

[@dukenukem8381]

If all muscle you can gain as a natural is 100% then newbie gains like 50% . Each next 10% will take as much effort as first 50%

[@samalmond2321]

10:10 Mike you are committing the ultimate fallacy of frequentist statistics here in that absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

[@jonnyb6700]

I've always despised the RoR crowd. Nice to know my instincts were correct.

[@scotlynhatt]

J-Force Activated!

[@ChrisMorris0]

Can someone resume this?

[@morecharacterswithamix9067]

As per Tom Platz, you always have 5 more reps even after failure. So you don't need to overthink it. Just get to failure, do drop sets, rest pause. Pick and choose exercises to do that safely.

[@Luke-vj3qn]

anyone has a cheaper alternative to versalifts? I want more heel to my squat shoes (long femurs and short thorso) but I'm in europe and a pair of versalifts with shipping and taxes end up at 60€ regular show lifts are too soft

[@bdono555]

I think the problem is what is failure and are the subjects actually going to failure. If I go to failure on a set I can't do the same reps or weight again, so when someone says they went to failure did they go to failure did they really or did they have 2-3 rir? Also listen to the whole thing 4rir is in the same grouping as 2rir. if they separated those 2 out there might not even be a difference between failure and 2rir. This sounds like dr wolf studies, were the groupings skew the results, or the actual results in the studies are different they what's being said.

[@order_truth_involvement6135]

Every day that passes, "science-based" bodybuilding is proving basic "bro-science" correct.

[@ΘάνατοςΧορτοφάγος]

So if i'm a failure at life i'm actually winning? 🤔

[@ryancherney6277]

Why does it look like every guest Dr Mike has on is forced to be there and was forced to talk about that one specific talking point regarding muscle growth. These people have and entire wealth of knowledge. So anyways let's talk more about Hypertrophy and Strength

[@johnnykarate_SweepLeg]

New insights = old insights, rehashed.

[@hextothemoonmoon2766]

YEAH , thanx MIKE MENTZER ❤ (Rip)

[@gabrielbadilla3803]

Is that a Growling Sidewinder shirt?

[@Killcease]

First thing I saw

[@carlanthonyholmes2162]

True failure is drop sets, until you can't lift any weight on that excersise for a rep. That,s how I work my side delts with lateral raises and dumbells, and then cables doing the same.