Trane Furnace and Air Conditioner Installation by A Plus Air Systems

[@edsonsilvadacostasilvadaco5246]

*Love this unit! Using upstairs in my sons bedroom **Fastly.Cool** and he’s finally able to be comfortable upstairs without me freezing downstairs. Works for more sqft than expected!*

[@user-ln7of9gs4s]

What are you talking about? I keep reading the same comment on multiple videos. You’re using a gigantic unit in your sons bedroom? Is it 4 tons?

[@IvanStarling-kg1ei]

Purchased: August 2023 - still works GREAT!I kzbin.infoUgkxxsUnXhGsSJLim_XnMHyQK0u3XVaW-CGn live in a studio and during the summer it gets scorching hot - really old building with no ac units. I can’t express how EASY it was to install. This unit has been a life savior during the summer and some days during other seasons where it can still be a bit warm at night. In this small place is my friend, a husky, poodle mix and myself. We need AC - lolI don’t use the dehumidifier option - I’m not sure if it will leak in my house, since I did not install the small draining hose that came with it. May look into it late but I don’t worry about much humidity in the apartment. I don’t understand why the negative reviews since all things mentioned, I personally did not find issues with. Definitely worth it!

[@tom-dr1ym]

nice when you have all that room to work

[@ihysnxgs4014]

Ikr

[@xen9254]

@Roland Harlem Yeah it really does work! You guy should try it because these guys are definitely not trying to screw you over!! 💀

[@leave_it_to_levi1652]

Haha out here in California (Bay Area) we literally never have anything that spacious , that would be like heaven

[@oneshotofvodkaa3973]

You guys are lucky installing in basements. I have to install theses in hot attics in the summer. Trane Comfort Specialist from Inland Empire and North County CA.

[@TheChurchofCacti]

This is the field I'm getting into. Just finished my first year of a two year program. Next fall I'll graduate with my Associates degree in applied science and certification in RAC. Most of the things they did in this video I understood what they were doing, but some of the things we haven't done yet. For instance we haven't covered central air or duct work at all. Pretty much we've only gone over the four basic components, how the system actually works\cools, electrical, charging, recovering, soldering, leak detection, and stuff like that. I feel like we haven't done enough hands on work though so hopefully once I graduate and start working I get a good mentor to show me the ropes.

[@TheChurchofCacti]

hope less That's actually my goal. Both my parents own small businesses and will help me invest in myself when I'm ready. I plan to work under someone for a company to really learn what I need to know for a few years and then go out on my own.

[@summitm18hvac90]

College doesn't teach u hardly anything. I went to school, was a 2 year program. I went for 1 and got my certificate and 608 license. When out in the field it's a whole different beast. Been doing hvac since 2013. Best of luck bro. Either wanna do this trade or dont. Can't fake it

[@jacekburghardt2858]

After 7 years I hope you are still in field how was your experience.

[@nuestrodestinowr]

Why some people leave the electric side facing to the wall? ... I always leave the electric side facing out for future repairs... More room make it easier

[@Thereapermissed]

Lol yeah leave the wires out and fail inspection

[@newstart49]

46 years in this business (And also a Trane dealer), and I can say it looks like you did a very good job. My two concerns would be that the service access at the heat pump should be away from the wall to make it easier to work on. The other is the mount to the wall. I would be ok with it if I knew the mounting bolts were attached to the walls studding and not just the brick- brick is not that strong. I may have provided two footholds on the lee side. I always install the 4-5" filter systems. When I return to do the yearly/annual maintenance, I bring the filter with me- the customer never has to mess with filters ever again.

[@dadefope80]

I was thinking the same thing. If a tech had to come out and replace anything on that heat pump, he or she will be cussing to high heaven.

[@bradyharbison7521]

@@dadefope80 not a heat pump

[@dadefope80]

@@bradyharbison7521 The Condenser, then

[@noahgibson482]

Nice when you have that many people on an install, our crew is usually me and one other guy

[@GoofysHatBand]

There are a lot of things that I would have done differently but I will restrict my comments to the condenser install. First, I would have secured that slab to the bracket and then the unit to the slab. Second, I would have rotated it 90 degrees so that it would be serviceable. It looks clean all tight to the wall but someday, you'll need to change a contactor or capacitor.

[@GoofysHatBand]

Come to think of it, they have a gas FAU for heating, why does that AC need to be mounted? They wouldn't be running it when it snows. Right?

[@zeke112964]

How do you pull a vacuum on the line set (14:08 minute mark) before its connected to the evaporator coil?(15:30 mark)

[@lawrenceyoung9445]

I ask myself that too lol. I got a little lost there. I was expecting to seeing the vacuum at the end right before adding refrigerant

[@elnownetwork]

Doing vacuum to the basement... nice work guys

[@elnownetwork]

Doing vacuum to the basement... 500 microns love it ....nice work guys

[@edgarh.5727]

Think just a bad edit

[@GoofysHatBand]

Had to be editing. But how do you pull a real vacuum without removing the schraders, using a 1/2" hose and a micron gauge so you know when you're done?

[@loganlawless2098]

Installers never think about the tech that has to come and fix it down the line.

[@MrGlen6911]

Logan Lawless down the line I give it 3 days maybe 5

[@javierpineda3365]

Half t

[@alyssatrujillocookingshow2853]

Did anyone else catch the flue length ? Didnt it seem long for 2 inch. Also did he put it on a vacumm well the other side wasn’t brazed in?

[@RonaldRegan314]

@@alyssatrujillocookingshow2853 ?.. taking out the fact that that flu looked like it did not have proper grade, the length looks fine, that is assuming it's a 100kbtu and altitude from 0-2000, taking all his 90s and 45s he has about 50' of length to work with. But that's assuming it's 100kbtu. If it's less then he has much for footage to work with.

[@edwardburnsburns5307]

but 100 screws makes me a better installer because i screw my ductwork on the bottom of all my jobs and then I pull my coil out and screw it down under there too ,, when im done with that I jump up and down on my 4 foot pipe wrench to make my gas pipe tight so no one can get it apart , then i do shit like pull the blower out of the air handler and screw it to the wall behind it with 3 inch screws so it doesn't fall over and last but not least I cut tabs in my furnace so when i put the coil on it I can crew those tabs into the coil box and i always make sure i do two in the back and cover it with tape and mastic then slide it into a closet and screw it to the wall and put the coil back in so it doesnt fall up , that makes me a good installer because when i install something it never needs to be replaced later on, because i used 100 screws !! LOl

[@getgetoutout]

Why no Nitrogen when brazing the line set?

[@jonyboi69]

Good job on installing the system that's how all business should be, prefesional and neat workmanship. Although I did see some issues no nitro flowing when brazing, when sleaving the suction line protect opening from powder entering copper. Also when touching any electrical circuits must bring up to code, like the disconnect I seen that you forgot to reidentify the line side of the disconnected to hot. Just giving my opinion. Other than that great job!

[@fattony123082]

I somewhat enjoy commercial hvac because 90% of the time it's a packaged RTU on a roof out of the way of a customer. Looking good in this install guys, but may I recommend purging lines with nitrogen during brazing. Less call backs know what mean. Keep up the good work

[@Khaltazar]

Did they really just set a pad on top of wobbly brackets with no support and then set a heavy A/C unit on top of that? Wow... that is asking for trouble later on... if any of those brackets rust, bye bye unit. It won't survive a bump test either. Is that really standard? Every unit I see is always on the ground on a concrete slab or heavily supported with material that won't rust. They could of added some additional support under the unit to make it more stable.

[@darrenfitzgerald8354]

Trane makes heat pumps that can go on a mount this is not one of them.

[@erixgar4117]

What happening with the lineset filter?

[@d.hansel854]

I had a Bryant central air. When it went out my HVAC contractor talked me into an Amana system. He told me it had a lifetime warranty. About 8 years later the compressor when out. He told me no problem and brought me a brand new one, no charge. I called Amana which is made by Goodman air conditioner company here in Houston and ask them if they still give lifetime warranty on their units. They said anything with a 16 SEER rating and above. They said in the future if it goes out just let the HVAC company know and they will replace the unit FREE ! You can't beat a deal like that.

[@edwardburnsburns5307]

Amana Bought goodman and yes it is a good deal but not the best system you can buy , they also now are with Daikin and they make the Daikin fit system and that is the best system made today no other can do what that one can , i am happy to hear you are happy with your Amana , They went all out on that system so you made a good choice

[@FrostBlueFire]

From every service repair tech who comes after this, "fuck you" Service access is facing in a place a service tech would have to struggle to just even look at, not to mention no nitrogen flow, microngauge is needed. Air is probably in the system, smh. If you ask me, half assed job, this isn't A+.

[@williammarik6159]

I cant believe that old condenser did not spew oil all over that nice sidewalk with that oaf rolling it around like that.

[@Jets-and-airconditoning]

Dang that’s heavy as hell but that’s a really good high performance unit it’s one of the best units out there!

[@albertteixeira4573]

Afa

[@Milerhighlife2011]

I never once saw a recovery machine or recovery tank maybe this system is empty who knows was it explained in the video also there once all nitrogen mean used brazing or never saw a micron gauge hook up to the system yeah not the way you do it

[@JunaydShakur]

As long as the system pumps down there’s no need to recover the refrigerant.

[@GoofysHatBand]

Let's assume that they recovered the refrigerant properly so we don't have to worry about that. I agree. How did he know that he had pulled a proper vacuum? I do like how they changed the line set though. I assume they were going from R-22 to R-410A. Whenever possible, I would recommend changing the lineset.

[@Jon-hx7pe]

single stage thermostat/wiring on 2-stage furnace too! No commissioning shown.

[@edwardburnsburns5307]

you are right sloppy work leads to call backs

[@rossr4222]

Furnace and cased coil+transition is already in and big boy is still ripping out the old line set? Fired!

[@JulesODwyer]

A lot of negative comments,I think the Nitrogen Purge of line sets is about the only negative comment I agree with but overall a very good clean job.From Louisiana been in a/ c trade for 45 plus yes and I think you guys did an overall good job.Listen if I was to critique everything on a job it would never end,so give the guys a break overall good job

[@zebragozt5284]

You guys do have a hard job, work well done.

[@LongTrout]

Nice install....It always help when the original was quality as well....

[@texasmade2684]

Looked like a real good job very professional. The only thing I noticed you didn't have a micron gauge when you pulled the vacuum.

[@bigt5917]

To hell with a micron guage . All of you new kids on the block think you have to have one. Guess what you dont.

[@twittyk78]

i really like how the service panel is in a corner that will be fun to access ,way to think about your service guys installers ! cool jump w1 and 2 instead of selling a better stat or running wire

[@noone3690]

Yup. New install should have a new stat. Just asking for trouble later on.

[@crabjoe]

Is it just me, or is the condenser a bit to close to the wall?

[@zeke112964]

+crabjoe Yes there are minimum distances from the wall

[@nuestrodestinowr]

Other than that... The electric part facing to the wall.. No room for future repairs

[@MrGlen6911]

crabjoe yes 16” clearance on all sides but thats the least of my worries lmao

[@oneshotofvodkaa3973]

I’m a Trane Comfort Specialist in CA. What Trane recommends is 12” from the wall. 12” being the minimum.

[@henrym02]

am i missing something here? where is the trap for condensation line, and as you brace copper ,nitrogen has to run through

[@josephschilcher7806]

You do not install trap in a positive pressure coil

[@summitm18hvac90]

There should be a trap, I've put ez traps on my installs. No issues so not sure where got ur info

[@bradw.5991]

Drain Traps are only required when City Code calls for it on a Positive Pressure system, all Negative Pressure systems require it for draining no matter if it has a Code or not.

[@jasoncurtis4404]

No trap required when coil on supply side. But in a basement, I always put ez trap.

[@jimbola77]

looks like a nice install, I'm trying to get my foot n the door as a tech helper etc... I know it takes time practice makes u better you will alway's be learning in this field thing's keep changing never boring I drive OTR it's tiring i'm trying to get enough under my belt to switch career's!!! thank's for sharing good video and customer relation's!!!

[@biblebloopers946]

Why would you install the electrical side and your refrigerant ports in the corner like that?

[@albertaproud7855]

Didn’t see you boys drop a chimney liner down for that water heater...

[@noone3690]

Did anyone see hangers for the pvc vents? If there was it wasn’t many. Should be every 3-4ft support hangers but maybe I missed them.

[@fernandoprieto2865]

The guy sweeping at the end cracked me up.

[@mofoshizknack]

Fernando Prieto only bitches sweep

[@cheapandeasy1715]

@@mofoshizknack So...how long you been sweeping now?

[@mofoshizknack]

@@cheapandeasy1715 I never sweep or wash dishes.

[@ECWnWWF]

the explanations of why they are doing what they are doing is high quality

[@yoellopez82]

that trane looks beautiful

[@tonypalmer300atyahoo]

How much did it cost? Why didn't he shake the air conditioner condenser? Show the owner how unstable it was.

[@mychoclabwinston]

Wow a trance tech not actually mounting the disconnect to the electrical cover, I’m impressed😂

[@macattack583]

its not code to connect it to the cover as long as it is reachable.

[@whitesheatingairappliancer7101]

What kind of bit were you using to drill into the brick?

[@johnedwards9649]

Do you think they pulled the permit???

[@thomaspease208]

loved they respected that lady's home by putting down the tarp and hospital style foot ware

[@mofoshizknack]

Thomas Pease they’re just trying to get down her pants

[@xuando1978]

Hi if u replace the HVAC u need permits or not ?

[@bashirmohamed7982]

what was wrong with the old one

[@1970brewcrew]

I liked the guy outside wearing shoe coverings

[@jacksonvilleairductcleanin1478]

Good informational video on your company

[@getgetoutout]

Why paint caulk instead of silicome on sealing the intake and exhaust? That wont last long.

[@camel8687]

i never though of using interior caulk for exterior masonry. what a good idea

[@bosserman1964]

LOL

[@garmin1488]

Didn't see any purple primer used while gluing the 636. Not sure why you wouldn't replace the hot water tank with a power vent type. Looks like a bit of a hack job, this seems to be one of the shadiest trades out there. Not sure how big the house is but that AC looks massive, 3.5 tons?

[@tylertilghman7290]

This install would fail in a heart beat in Oklahoma... no secondary drip pan under the coil... no fall on the flue or fresh air for furnace... and don't get me started on why they fired up the a.c. on a day it's snowing... and I assume they charged the system on start up, so they'll be back in the spring to recover some of it...these guys are back jobs... I do a furnace, coil, line set, a.c., run a flue, and transition by myself in about 8 hours... and I have passed every inspection this last year...

[@pijomaster4862]

Do you need a helper?

[@giomongous]

Where is your micron gauge?

[@amesavis]

would not expect an indian in such a cold clime but they seemed very professional

[@elnownetwork]

Doing vacuum to the basement... nice work guys love it

[@noone3690]

I’m hoping the outside was the full start to finish and then when they went back in they showed it’s complete install. Surly they didn’t vacuum without coil hooked up but who knows!

[@bal_d4450]

Isn't the too low for a place whete it's going to snow

[@Spector_NS5_RD]

what's the name of the bender you're using for the ACR tubing. i'd love one of those. i'd save money rather than buying 3/4 elbows. thanks.

[@FlyEaglesFly19111]

#1leave all boxes on equipment till as close to install location this will help for less scratches.. #2 get help..less damage to property of customer..#3 miter duct of return to center up better new equipment to supply duct. #4 learn how to make a hand make Pittsburg seam so less air loss on supply transition. #5 do job right and install new brackets for outdoor unit. #6 install outdoor to access electrical panel better. #7 dont let these guys install at your house. I could go on and on and on of just this install..wow these guys give the rest of us a bad name!!!!!

[@JAshw84]

By default, the blower speed for the AC is set to high... Did you have to lower the blower speed for Air Conditioning?

[@craigweisman4783]

Why no Nitrogen purge during Brazing? Didnt see a vacuum guage to assure 500 micron vacuum. The intake pipe is below the average snow fall. A-Plus, I think Not

[@benjamindanielson9747]

most people don't do a nitrogen purge... and I've found its not necessary if you put pressure on the line before you put the Schrader valve back in after brazing... it'll blow everything right out anyways... just a preference I suppose...

[@cjwise5552]

I don't understand how nobody understands the concept of the piping being above snowfall. It was even snowing as he was glueing the pipes

[@consumersgasman8376]

intake has to be 12in above grade for Toronto area

[@ryanalway4655]

Craig Weisman hey Craig u seem like u have good wits in this field how much should it cost for a new air conditioning system if u have all ducts and vents in home already?

[@giomongous]

Ryan Alway a system like this should cost no more than 10 thousand.

[@naushinsiraj4874]

Is it safe to charge AC unit amid coronavirus? Can it transit from them?

[@Eddy63]

The disconnect was wired wrong at 13:43 but was corrected @ 21:57 ...just sayin' ...

[@chriswehmeyer2679]

radwkrea it's correct ...? Just hadn't hooked up the whip to condenser yet.

[@brianrice1196]

Yeah they wired one side line and the other load. Another thing, here in California, we are required to at least tape the white wire with black electrical tape to indicate that it is hot wire.

[@cpapwor1]

Nice job. I only had one issue. I didn't like the condenser access panel facing the wall. Looks nice, but a pain in the ass to service or replace components.

[@lethalink2730]

On an existing system, I have an HVAC system upstairs where the liquid/vapor (insulated & copper) lines run through the attic coming through the drywall (high on wall) from A coil extending about 35-40 feet, free hanging angling downward for about the first 13 feet before following the roof line across to the eave and finally "sorta" attached (loosely) to the attic wall structure until it exits the exterior, back wall as low to the floor line as possible. It extends the back of the house 2 stories (really one since it comes outside right above the ceiling of the first floor). So, here's my question...I'm getting ready to semi-finish the attic where it crosses - right thru the middle of the room at about head/eye level. Can I raise the lines higher than the A coil to above my 8 1/2' ceiling line (a rise of approx 1' or 2' from current level) for about 6' (lying on top on the new ceiling) then it will drop down behind the added wall and follow its existing path outside? Basically, is there any potential problem with the initial increase in rise of the line closest to the unit/A coil? Thanks for the video and any help or suggestions.

[@jasoncurtis4404]

That will be fine.

[@fakku6356]

i wanna know what happened with the Asian lady

[@summitm18hvac90]

She was little...

[@johnleeyingzhang3504]

Lol

[@GoofysHatBand]

Yeah, whoops.

[@TheAloneman91]

I want to know how much for the complete installation included the central air conditioner.

[@Grizbox]

this video is awesome, its editing is perfect for learning.

[@MrGlen6911]

Clintopoulos Grizworld learning what not to do I agree

[@edwardburnsburns5307]

you want to lear watch grey furnace man , best hvac learning videos on youtube

[@vadim.2525]

How many systems can you understand per day?

[@1520cesar]

at 5:40 what is the name of that tool you used on your drill?

[@summitm18hvac90]

That's a drill sheer. Malco makes them. There are others as well.

[@jasoncurtis4404]

Yea they are like $30. I've had mine about 10 years still going

[@frankgall6]

no micron gauge?

[@Creed85]

did he really put 1 leg of his Line voltage into Load....? @13:43

[@sawyerramos3113]

Im having an A/C installed tomorrow. 2 ton, $2600. Florida. 2020. You have to shop around and be careful with these "companies" with vans wrapped in "cute" designs. They are crooks!

[@kc6442]

@ 9:11, nice "kayak." 👀

[@miguelvelez1079]

Haw many inches are pvc ducts in diameter

[@RayRaaaay91]

What’s up with the service access!

[@lastarzawillis9724]

I'm not a rocket scienctist but did he just screw that brace that holding that white pipe into the duct work

[@dave3464]

Yes! good eye! That alone tells you enough about these hack installers. also cutting jagged and uneven pipe with tiny cutters, then gluing it. To the average homeowner they'll never know. Imagine all the other details not caught on camera.

[@CoachTobyXL]

I'm a new technician. What is the purpose of the PVC pipes?

[@Jon-hx7pe]

a new technician would/should know.

[@Xantheus07]

So what did this job cost roughly 5-7k?

[@jasoncurtis4404]

Looks like around 3 ton. I would charge about 6000, 6500 tops.

[@williammarik6159]

@@jasoncurtis4404 A trane system---$ 7,000

[@rossr4222]

Big boy struggled taking that ac off the brackets LOL. Probably pooped his pants

[@mofoshizknack]

Ross R No Shit, probably farted out a condom

[@nadal02011]

I have a trane system (bayhtr1505) with a 60 amp breaker safety switch. What size of wire does required to run to the panel and breaker.

[@FcsstlHeatingCoolingPlumbing]

6 gauge I believe

[@kingcobra6149]

I don't see any filter dryer near the coil or the condenser. There should be one to avoid any type of debris that's coming from the lineset.

[@garrettnp5]

It's in the condenser

[@benjamindanielson9747]

what Garrettpov said... so many people try to act like they know,what they're talking about when they don't see a drier outside. So many brands come with it INSIDE the condenser and anyone who's actually done this work knows that. Also, you CAN put the drier inside with the air handler... its actually PREFERABLE if you work near the beach, where the salty air rusts out metal 3 times faster than normal. If you're at the beach and install a drier at the condenser, it's gonna rust out in 2 years.

[@TesserLink]

What size AC unit is that its rather big. is it a 3.5 ton

[@neal5186]

a lot of the new higher SEER ones are larger because of the condenser

[@grtap]

The old furnace was better than the one that they replaced it with.

[@MicheIIePucca]

Great rare video to find... and very well done. Thank you!

[@saharmansoori8349]

how much does it cost? I would like to do it to my new house?

[@emilioalaniz7263]

Is that the 90% efficiency furnaces. Never seemed one done Good stuff 👌🏽

[@dmana3172]

I'm thinking about getting a Trane. I have old Rheem r22 3 ton. Will Trane cool the house much better? Is it quieter?

[@FrostBlueFire]

Tranes are typically quieter and are a better brand. Newer Rheems have been having much evaporator coil leak issues, I've replaced 4 already in just 6 months of working for a new company. Tranes last longer, are quieter depending on the model you get, I'd suggest a TEM6 (TEM4's have X-13 motors, those things die within 4 years). You'd have to ask the technician or sales person about the unit, some TEM6 come with plastic blowers for a quiet runtime. They're a good brand, just installed a Trane in my home replacing an old Trane from '94. I'd recommend it.

[@summitm18hvac90]

Lennox is another good brand. I install this brand. Both are expensive

[@jasoncurtis4404]

Rheem is such a joke. My company almost went out of business due to so many warranty calls.

[@javedlatiffshaikh3097]

what should be minimum and maximum piping ?

[@AdelsonProenca]

hello friend do you know how to tell us something about working with the VRF system, how it works, companies, values ​​etc, there in your region

[@italianstallion69420]

Y'all need AC up in Canada?

[@phillipdonohue5]

lol, what a cake install. Have you guys in Canada ever do a install in Arizona! haha you would quit the biz!

[@blueg3027]

wtf these hacks are from Canada. Well im embarrassed as shit. These dicks are not a representation of the trades in Canada lol at all

[@Devilsfan-pd8ov]

Phillip Donohue Arizona lol Try a install in jersey

[@summitm18hvac90]

It really was a cake install. 6 hours or less

[@erickvaliente8158]

Hi,can you pls. How can I find out the seers in Trane unit thank you

[@ashtonpollard3556]

those guys..worked like professionals...they seek complete customer satisfaction

[@Texarkanaacrepair]

Interesting video, nice work!

[@Maverick-2202]

the journeymen did a great job but his apprentices need work. the vents were done very sloppy with no supports every 4 foot and very sloppy with the glue. The sheet metal work was very nice and clean

[@stubronson8718]

Yeah, his sheet metal work on site was on point

[@johne153]

4:48 lmaooo idk why but seemed hilarious like the office or parks and rec. perfect video and then THUD lol

[@carsonp.7009]

yeh lmao and the zoom in just like one of those shows

[@jasoncurtis4404]

Me and my partner would do that entire changeoutnin about 4-5 hours. Just the 2 of us. Perfect quality install.

[@JunaydShakur]

I’m in Fort Lauderdale. Takes me 4 hours to change out system solo.

[@ra8937]

Very professional. Great work gentleman.

[@seabassflores4896]

braze without nitrogen and vac without micron guage......?

[@mychoclabwinston]

XxDomAn LorDxX clean work and not proper procedure, makes for a bad system down the road,

[@travisturner1165]

How not to install 101

[@ipfreely1281]

Good job guys thanks for posting I enjoyed it brought back memories

[@enriquecalderon453]

I'm not here to criticize I'm here to learn from other people my suggestion is why not run copper line and electrical on other side to make more accessible for Servicing

[@philcore4759]

you guys normally work in teams of 3 installers?

[@brandonsmith9742]

New hires without experience typically play third wheel until they are comfortable on their own