Trans Guys Comparing Transitions ft. Noah Finnce

Teen vs. twenty-something talking about the similarities and differences in our transitions!
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[@IrisWasHere919]

Jamie is so cute just listening to noah talk like 80 words per second

[@kopfgefickt]

Man you're right, Noah talks soooo fast

[@jenniferfromleeuwarre54]

its because hes really really smart it sometimes happens when youre really smart

[@user-ww1ns6hv1r]

Jennifer From leeuwarre i'm not smart, but i talk fast

[@ahhhwowowow7488]

@@user-ww1ns6hv1r same

[@inkyio]

@@jenniferfromleeuwarre54 people with adhd also talk fast and it seems like he has it a bit so

[@amprice2727]

My birth mom said that when I'm 18 if I still want top surgery she might help me pay for it (like I have to pay for most of it but she'll help) and I nearly cried

[@cadynextdoorr]

i hope that works out! we love supportive parents ❤️

[@saulbadman5164]

hope everything works out💖💖💖

[@coffee7008]

Good for you!! I wish you well💙

[@l-3832]

@@transamination UGHHHHHHH go awayyyyyyy. We don’t need transphobes here. Why did you even click on the video? I’m so fucking sick of you people.

[@zzzzzzzzz2278]

Im happy for you! Greatest of luck!

[@dontmindme4885]

Jamie: hey spuds Subtitles: facebones

[@starkitten101]

Bruh youtube auto generate captions are drunk

[@floofajpw9035]

@@pixiesh1850 yum, spuds

[@AlexNoIts]

Omg yes, I don’t know how to turn my subtitles off so I have made so many comments on people’s videos when the subtitles mess up in a funny way.

[@miabennett04]

@@AlexNoIts press "cc" at the top it'll turn them off

[@spookyspaghett1]

My Coca Cola tastes like a mix of gummy vitamins and doctor gloves. I’m so confused

[@Illuminati-vp7yn]

i need noah's skin man. from female hormones to male hormones. no matter what the hormones are, theres acne and such but dAMN noah looks like he was born yesterday

[@kimorabo]

not all people get acne

[@inaamani546]

Ok I was not prepared for someone to want someone else’s skin today and I figured out how he does it Lazarus pit

[@draalttom844]

@@kimorabo only if your skin is already acneec

[@rotmarty]

Super Man, Batman and Skin Man

[@marianaamoedo5942]

I thought he was underage, baby face, great skin.

[@Zernium]

Oh my god, I had no idea that freezing eggs was such a complex, unpleasant process. Freezing sperm is a cakewalk in comparison.

[@z_ed]

Was gonna ask, why would one freeze sperm, then I understood...medical sciences are friggin awesome 👍

[@Zernium]

@@z_ed It makes a good ice cream topping.

[@pastelpixelp]

Zernium LMAOO NOOO

[@islilyyagirl]

it is good tho

[@islilyyagirl]

@Tasha Fox thanks

[@maliyaD]

My 13 yo just came out to me as Trans a few days ago. I want to be supportive but I knew nothing about what it means from their perspective. Your videos have been educational but, mostly, showed me how happy and complete you seem to be. Gives me so much hope! Thank you!

[@nikkibella1607]

I'm 3 weeks late but if you want any other channels that are from trans people's perspectives there is a guy named Sam Collins (ftm) and a lady named Samantha Lux (mtf). Also, good on you for being a supportive parent :)

[@georgiaburkhart285]

@@nikkibella1607 oh those two are great.

[@whyyyyyyyyy]

Thank you, so much, for supporting your kid. You have no idea how important that is to a trans kid, or at least the majority of trans kids. Thank you for taking the time to look into this sort of thing. Thank you for believing them, and that what they are telling you is right for them. Sorry for the cringey comment. Keep kicking ass; you’re being a great parent.

[@unknownuser5837]

Thank you for being such awesome parents

[@just_JAS_PER]

yoo i’m thirteen too as well as trans and let me tell you testosterone has given me a huge confidence boost!

[@gwyntm4885]

Noah healed really quick because he is secretly Deadpool. 🤐

[@mycotian]

wh- SIOBHAN?? Whatre you doin here

[@kennedywalker1915]

The real tea

[@alviilmie1869]

[GwynTM ] or he has no time to bother about it,chatting is his thing,really🤣

[@BowDownPeasant29]

You got me thinking now...if Deadpool had chesticles and yeeted them...would they grow back?

[@gabrielt.2734]

She/He/they knows to much

[@wizard2862]

IS HIS NAME REALLY NOAH FINNCE? LIKE "NO OFFENSE"?? THAT'S HILARIOUS AND AMAZING

[@Tiggzg]

Charlie ReedNo, that’s not his last name.

[@nxahsvidz]

Fin is his middle name :)

[@jazz9090]

Haha that took me like a full minute to get the joke 😂

[@crowsandlemons]

Gay Wizard that’s just his user, it’s meant to sound like No Offense 😂 his middle name is Finn so I guess it does partially come from that

[@thunderusnight]

I JUST realized that

[@devi1kiss]

hey, guy here whos a male with a bit of a more pear shaped figure. i know a lot of trans guys struggle with the whole having hips thing, and even as a cis guy, who carries weight in the hip and thigh area, something i recommend is sweat pants that are baggy around the hip and crotch, and pretty much your entire leg, but are fitted around the ankles. these types of sweat pants really help to make your lower half look a lot more rectangular. i usually wear dark grey joggers, i think they just make my figure look more masculine. just a tip !

[@harryathornton4463]

Thank you mate!

[@WadeShoe]

I am the same way and do the same thing. I don't really have an issue with body image, but I can agree they help with the appearance

[@aryore2411]

I've personally started going for tapered pants, which are snug around the hips and narrow down to the ankles, but are not as fitted as skinny fit pants. They look trim and give a good silhouette with straight sides without causing that flappy boat-sails look around your knees that you get with a straight cut. I've also gotten into watching out for men with wide hips when I'm out and about. There really is a big variety of hip sizes in men, you do get the guys who are straight thin sticks, but I've spotted guys with hip proportions that are as big as mine and they absolutely look very guy despite it. I find that upper-body proportions matter a lot more than lower-body proportions.

[@rainyrainold]

As a woman with the opposite problem., who gains weight in their belly, arms and chest, with no changes to my butt or hips thanks for the tip on what not to wear!

[@surepal3985]

As a girl who dresses masculine I can confirm that those have contributed to me being mistaken for a boy before. They are very comfortable as well

[@klaraottosson1461]

It’s 3 AM, I’m not trans, I have two tests tomorrow wth am I doing?! Worth is though

[@skyelorspacex]

This is me. I'm more interested in learning about this than I am maths

[@lookihaveausernametoo4231]

Relatable

[@dc5592]

Mood

[@Mylegiscaughtinashackle]

Lol I said this two years ago. And whoops I am ftm trans.

[@martinhirsch4959]

Shouldn't your name be ottosdottir (according to the traditional naming system, which is only used in Iceland to my knowledge)?

[@Ryan-ci6ni]

i thought i clicked noah’s video for a second there

[@paulinamacias2944]

Ryan 1234 SAME

[@flaviaa55]

Same

[@jackowen7062]

The egg freezing sounds terrible. I could never have done that.

[@lunaottosen]

Even as a straight cis woman it sounds bad! But so understandable that he did it. He was very brave.

[@missjul8]

Ya just adopt. Don't force anyone into this dying planet for selfish reproductive wants.

[@RosaCatz]

JustJ8 You must be fun at parties

[@christinpaul8709]

Sounds good scary and I'm trans ftm I don't want that to happen to me

[@luciferr8527]

22mm eggs. 26 of them. I'm q u a k i n g. It sounds horrifying, I can't even imagine...

[@oliverhalewood3364]

I’ve never seen Noah before but he seems so mature and forward thinking it’s awesome to hear how he explains things.

[@Hmm...Whats-Their-Name]

He's matured a lot thankfully

[@NOAHFINNCE]

thank u :)

[@oliverhalewood3364]

NoahFinnce omg you replied ! crazy lol😮😄 Thanx for your video with Jamie it’s great as someone whose dating a trans person

[@ProFriend]

Noah is a legend

[@samanderson2447]

No one: Noah: Miles Berry is the Love of my Life

[@NOAHFINNCE]

honestly

[@Salthat]

NoahFinnce Oh my fucking god.

[@lil.blue24]

@@NOAHFINNCE And you're the love of my life

[@JacquelineUnderwood]

Julia oh yikes

[@sassybdassi6686]

ship it

[@SowAy]

Seeing how young they transitioned seems incredible to me. I haven't been able to simply accept and formulate a word about my gender dysphoria before I was 25. I feel like I've lost so many years torturing myself.

[@Rainy-In-The-Desert]

Try to not beat yourself up over it honey. You didn't waste years, you were discovering yourself. I hope you're in a good place now, maybe transitioning or thinking about it. Whatever you decide I'm sure will be wise. **Hugs** it'll all be ok

[@alexnoha437]

I didn’t know what it was until I was 18/19! Some people know at 5, we all know at different times. What matters is that now you know and now you can take care of yourself properly:)

[@t.deshawn6519]

I had the same problem! At 26, I just had top surgery and was still in denial about my gender identity. I started T a month after surgery and now I just wish I had figured it out sooner

[@mlorpf]

I'm 26 and I have no idea what my sexuality is. It's weird that I'm unable to make sense of my own experiences, because I don't know if I actually like guys or just get a high off of their validation. I don't know if that's at all similar to questioning your gender, but I do know what it feels like to have "lost" many years of my life (to depression and DDD, in my case). The only thing that helps me is to think of what these years have given me, even if I couldn't experience joy like I wish I could. Without this experience I couldn't understand and help people who are in a similar situation. And who knows, when I finally get out of it I might be able to get more out of life than I would have been otherwise, because I'll never take the opportunity to live fully for granted.

[@PinkPenPlays]

I mean I figured it out around 21 but can’t do anything cuz family won’t support me even if I did come out

[@MrGERiarza]

I'm just bi but I am fascinated with trans experience. I am happy to see progress and am an ally. This world os diverse and I think that is beautiful.

[@WadeShoe]

Yeah, I doubt all of their viewers are trans. I honestly just got here because I watched a video that Noah happened to be in, not even knowing he was trans, and he just seemed like a cool person. And I got to this video because Noah advertised it on his Channel. That's just how the internet works

[@elliesciberras4346]

i’m gay but same

[@barpoe1]

Same fellow bi lol

[@rainyrainold]

I'm cis and hey, but it fascinates me as well! I have a lot of empathy for what people go through, and these videos really help me to know how to support anyone I know who decides to transition.

[@lunaottosen]

@@rainyrainold Same! I know it sounds weird, but sometimes I wish I knew more trans people. Just so I could give them ALL the support.

[@pastelhurricane848]

A tip for waiting lists: remember that time never stops. It might feel like an eternity away, but every day you push through, you're getting closer and closer.

[@eternitae0_035]

Sustain The Higher thank you

[@eternitae0_035]

G B r u asking what the nhs is or..?

[@Dutch3DMaster]

Very much true @Sustain The Higher, but the thing is, when people are experiencing the onset of puberty or are scared of starting the puberty belonging to the birth sex while being screened for the onset of puberty in order to delay/block it, it can be an excruciating long time knowing puberty is going to be able to do some of it's irreversible damage because of a waiting list.

[@purpleduracell]

I've had a referral to genetics since spring 2019, I'm going for my appt next month. You will get there eventually.

[@eternitae0_035]

I don’t remember commenting this lol, anyway I start t tomorrow :D

[@cieruela_pasa4126]

No one: Noah and jammi: yeah, yeah yeah, yeah

[@daisy9226]

Ana2908 yeah yeah

[@lisanneyang]

I cant unhear it now

[@hiasyed7610]

yeah yeah yeah yeah?

[@projectcyberghost]

Wow, wow, wow as well

[@liam-sd8mq]

Honestly it applies to all british conversations

[@ElloLoJo]

13:56 “WOTCHU FELL OVA FOR?!” “I didn’t do it on purpose!”

[@conlon4332]

I was like "Ova?" but then I realised you meant over, not the plural of ovum.

[@indianaward-wiltshire2628]

I acknowledge this Harry Potter joke and it made me happy

[@snipermask8766]

What Harry Potter movie is that from it’s killing me

[@snipermask8766]

omg right after I commented that it came to me I’m so stupid omg

[@tenkiingkirby6041]

@@snipermask8766 Prisoner of Azkaban. Its when Harry is getting of the Knight bus. Its Stan shunpike saying it to him.

[@chaoskiddo5996]

I'm pre-everything I rewatch this video so often It keeps me going Thanks

[@emmanuelaadebisi5743]

Chaos Good luck 🌟

[@Rainy-In-The-Desert]

Chaos stay strong friend, you're strong enough for this. **Hugs**

[@deeclarke784]

How old are you and what are your pronouns

[@renbaker5124]

Same ♥️ We will get there

[@chaoskiddo5996]

dee Clarke 18 he/him Just started the whole process since in my country we're not allowed to start transitioning under 18. I have yet to get on hormones.

[@luxurypetscz]

That boy made such a responsible and expensive decision at such a young age! Like if somebody asked me at my age now (I'm almost 21) to decide whether I'll ever want kids in the future there's no way I could be 100% confident in my answer!!!

[@alex73217]

I am 20 and have been very confident in my decision for years :) its different for each person. I know that I'll never want biological kids, I want to adopt or at least foster.

[@ladyt4263]

It takes more time for some people! I knew since I was very young I wanted children. I'm about to turn 21 in Novemeber and I already have an 18 month old son ☺️

[@gettintherejanice6216]

I realize some people don't know at 18 if they want to be parents at 18 or in their early 20s and maybe that is a little different with disphoria. I am cis and i knew i wanted kids at six or 8 years old. literaly craved the physical sensation of being pregnant starting at ten and a few years later I think before I craved breastfeding. and by ten I absolutly knew I wanted to physically give birth. I had a sister who said she never wanted to give birth or be pregnant or any of that she was going to adopt and I am not abosed to adoption I think it is beautiful but I also knew i wanted to bear children. I did have some level of disphoria not that i felt male but I thought there was some sort of mistake because I couldn't identify with gender norms in the way that I preicived them. my point is though that may be young for making that decision it is not at all young for knowing you want kids.

[@ChlorineHeart]

@@gettintherejanice6216 I mean I wasn't even sure at 20 and I'm cis so I don't think it has anything to do with disphoria

[@expertfrenchtoast3480]

I have to start thinking whether i want to freeze my eggs or not and i am 12 😬

[@daysleeper1989]

I am a cis woman and seeing two guys talking about how difficult the scans can be, internal and external, is an absolute bliss. I have a hard time seeing how dismissive people are of these proceadures because they are common but yep...they are no joke and they can be complicated. Thanks for sharing your experiences :)

[@helenmills9534]

i’m not trans or part of the lgbtq+ community but i really enjoy hearing people’s experiences and how good they are doing after they get surgeries and get put on t and just there transitions. keep it up guys i good you keep doing what you’re doing, i can’t even imagine the amount of struggling trans people you are helping from these videos❤️ IM HERE FOR YOU ALL YOURE ALL VALID IN MY EYES !!!!

[@m.w.kaplan447]

its really cool when ppl use youtube and vids like this to educate themselves

[@jamesbw2]

Yes, Helen. Your an ally

[@z_ed]

@@jamesbw2 *you're, lol jk but totally agree 😅

[@mothercereal4438]

Same!

[@Alex-mr6gm]

We Stan a ally 🏳️‍🌈💖, I’m trans and bi

[@identitysystem3308]

There are three ways that my friends refer to their monthly cycle. 1) Spartan blood 2) polka dot 3) monthly blood sacrifice. Most of my friends are cis and and they still use these terms. Lol

[@neuroseptember1020]

Tate Lorraine Shark Week

[@hannahbrooks8185]

Satan's waterfall

[@finch9782]

Tate Lorraine China’s attacking, because chinas flag is a red dot

[@hannahbrooks8185]

Clever The Cat actually it's Japan who's flag is the red dot. China's is solid red with a yellow star in the corner

[@finch9782]

Hannah Brooks ah damn your right. I was typing that down worried I was wrong Gdhhdjd

[@Alucard45000]

I'm so happy I'm from Norway, All the surgeries are payed for by the state.. I'm not going to pay anything for any of them, not even the packer and binder.. Sucks to have to pay so much for something that is a part of the transition..

[@thejabberwocky5884]

That’s it. I’m moving to Norway.

[@eijiroukirishima2146]

Bro im coming with you, i want top surgery

[@Alucard45000]

@Amanda B In norway when you reach a limit on how much you have payed for medical services its all free after that, like I have at the moment. I can go to the doctor/hospital and I don't pay for anything, even the meds I use are free when the limit is crossed. And its not really that high either. Think its around 285 Usd or 2500Nok. So once that is reached you can go to the doc everyday for the rest of the year for free. And if you are in an accident and end up in hospital (ambulance and everything) It will cost you nothing even if the limit isn't reached.

[@thejabberwocky5884]

LucasWerewolf Oh my gosh that is so cheap.

[@ceiling_pancake]

LucasWerewolf can I come to Norway?

[@jorikmol7921]

Hey lads, After watching this video last night, I actually used this video in a discussion today. I work in the NHS and Noah's point about waiting lists and being cut out of assessment is a discussion where having right now. I work in the NHS, specifically on the autism strategy and where we intersect with the LGBTQ community as well as others. All my love xxx

[@bennyton2560]

What's the update? I'm trying to get my ADHD assessed and I'm told to wait list for 2 years. I'm Asian and bi

[@unapologeticallylizzy]

Oh, that's interesting! Hello from a bisexual autistic girl. I don't remember much about the waiting list stuff because I got diagnosed at 11 and my parents didn't tell me I was autistic until I reached the top of the waiting list, but it is definitely a problem.

[@skyamarie3835]

"Well you shouldn't have fallen put of your bed!" "Well I didnt do it deliberately!!" This was hilarious

[@letterborneVods]

I’m so mindblown ... I just now realized that trans guys are the only guys that can understand girl’s periods 🤯

[@koalaskrypin]

I had that realisation too! Mind. Definetly. Blown.

[@Danny-wn1gn]

Well some non binary, genderfluid etc people understand to

[@letterborneVods]

Jackson Sanders I don’t know a lot about non binary and genderfluid people, can they identify as guys? In that case I’m sorry for not including them

[@mkiroussiva9048]

Letterborne yeah non-binary people can identify as guys, too, same way they could identify as a girl, both a girl and boy, neither, etc!😁

[@letterborneVods]

mKiroussiva ok, thanks for educating me on that! ☺️

[@bananashot5407]

I'm watching this, 10 hours after my first T shot, I said goodbye to my fertility, and in 2 weeks I have my first appointment with my surgeon. So you both scared me a little bit, but you 2 look so happy about the results that I'm not worried. As we say in French "il faut souffrir pour être beau" (you must suffer to be pretty)

[@nikkibella1607]

Congrats dude!

[@Jaypat74]

As a straight woman, I find it so beautiful watching these kinds of videos to see how excited and happy people are when they become who they know they are. Thanks for sharing!

[@Queer_Nerd_For_Human_Justice]

[@zazieproductions]

Seems like a younger brother. Huh?

[@parisz]

Totally!!!!

[@ATiredTripleA]

My genetics gave me that hourglass ba-bam afab body. Intense curves, wide hips, big thick thighs, big bouncy behind, massive hongalongaloos, tiny very pretty face. And I'm ftm. You have no idea how much the femboy craze helps my insane dysphoria.

[@ThinWhiteAxe]

Conspiracy theory: they're brothers separated at birth

[@yusufgazi7]

They were female at birth

[@anomaliexxx]

Yusuf Gazi okay. But they’re still dudes...

[@HSdirectioner5]

Yusuf Gazi what’s your point??

[@yusufgazi7]

Hazza Styles That they were sisters separated at birth...

[@anomaliexxx]

Yusuf Gazi no. They’re both male. You do realize that the whole point of being a trans man is *not* being a woman right?

[@orca3413]

I was gonna donate my binders after surgery but my dad's girlfriend threw them away since I "didn't need them anymore" It's been a year. I'm still pissed.

[@marc-jn6ti]

Dad's gfs kinda sick tbh

[@orca3413]

@@marc-jn6ti lol u have no idea

[@marc-jn6ti]

@@orca3413 I have a bit of one...just a bit...

[@kidbasic2330]

Damn she must be a bit of a bitch then. My dad's girlfriend would love the idea of donating binders for free to those who need them. Sorry bout that m8.

[@juliancain3872]

@@orca3413 Is it bad?

[@Riley-uy6uf]

I'm 16, non-binary, and I'm supposed to start T around valentines day, I'm stoked about it. I'm glad I'm hearing other trans voices and experiences guiding me through it. thank you both so much :))

[@dont-mind-mejust-passing-b1761]

Howd it go? :]

[@Riley-uy6uf]

@@dont-mind-mejust-passing-b1761 Fantastic! I should be getting some vocal changes soon, I am breaking out quite a bit unfortunately. Nothing super huge quite yet but everyone I know tells me I look so much happier!

[@DustyZz]

@@Riley-uy6uf how r u now? :D

[@Riley-uy6uf]

@@DustyZz i'm 4 months on T, voice has dropped a bit (may just be from training it tho), acne has gotten awful and uncomfy af, i'm starting to notice hair in new places where it used to be thinner (tummy and thighs etc). I think im building muscle a lot faster than i used to. and well,, even better news: i have a consultation with a plastic surgeon for top surgery on June 10th :D Thanks for asking

[@DustyZz]

@@Riley-uy6uf I'm so happy for you!!

[@deannayael]

They look like they could be related. They even have the same hair. Is it just me...?

[@samuel-zb4qn]

I genuinely thought they were brothers until this comment

[@sarah-ry3sc]

Noah's hair cut makes him look a lot older I think

[@sage2658]

sarah 221263 dude they practically have the same haircut

[@sarah-ry3sc]

@@sage2658 haha I don't mean older than Jamie, I mean it makes him look a lot older than he did before he got it cut 😂

[@boglarkaborszuk8802]

I think he look max 15, but if I saw him walking on the streets and didn't know who he is, I would think he is a 13-14 years old cisgender boy.🤷😅

[@shobo4482]

Two of my most favorite youtubers collabing. THIS IS HEAVEN

[@obliviousmadness7832]

I´ve been working as a nurse for about 2 years now. But I must say, I´ve never heard such entertaining feedback after someone had surgery! You guys are precious, thank you for sharing this.

[@bellaa8663]

No one: I mean actually no one: Jamie: Miles: Noah: I jus wanna dance 🤪🥰

[@evann7735]

If anyone’s parents, friends, grandparents, guardians, carers, etc need help understanding anything like this, show them this video. It helped my mom understand so much about me and what I medically need. Thank you Jamie and Noah for explaining all of this.

[@DB-wb1tz]

I wanna give Noah head pats and I don’t know why. I need to give him head pats. Edit: I saw him in a thumbnail for another video and have come to the conclusion that it’s the hair.

[@anomaliexxx]

ME TOO

[@metaphorsunfurled]

Sending virtual head pats Noahhhh!

[@melissabarrett9750]

His hair looks so awesome here

[@makudirectioner]

Omg, you both are so cool, I’m from Mexico and i met a trans guy who changed the way I though about the LGBTIQ community, and now I’m trying to understand more of what he’s been dealing Lots of love from Mexico ❤️

[@kidbasic2330]

Love from Illinois

[@idkaavu-chan5719]

this is late but what did he do to change your view on lgbtqia+ people it’s nice to be able to help educate people

[@lunarwhispers]

my trypanophobia does not like how many needles are in Noah's story (trypanophobia is the fear of needles/injections if anyone was wondering)

[@zekeleonard5247]

Same. I started crying 😐

[@holyshinx6391]

Lol trypanophobia is pretty much the whole reason I dont want HRT

[@kyky8110]

im dyslexic and i read that transphobia and i was so concerned until i read the rest of the comment 😅

[@lunarwhispers]

@@kyky8110 OOP-

[@pilsplease7561]

@@holyshinx6391 I was like yes pills can have like a 1% higher chance of clots but fuck that ill take a pill, and or patches or gel for mtf but not needles you cant pay me to use a needle ever. I hate needles and couldnt inject.

[@abbiolson8227]

"I just want to dance" I have a broken rib and it hurts to breath buy I kept laughing and omg it hurts so bad

[@mathishd5558]

Hope you get that fixed and you get better

[@somedude172]

also maaan i feel you on the adult/childrens clinic issue noah! i have a mystery chronic pain condition that ive been trying to get diagnosed for about 7 years now. i finally got referred to a specialist, which was at a childrens hospital, but i turned 18 a week before my appointment. this hospital is known to take in people between 18-21 on emergency bases, so i figured since im literally crippled from it, and almost failed my last year of grade school bc of it, theyd go ahead and treat me. i waited almost a year for this appt, get there, and they tell me they cant do anything bc im over 18. when THEYRE THE ONES WHO SCHEDULED MY APPT. i had to wait 7 more months to see an adult specialist, and almost failed my first semester of college/university during that time bc i couldnt receive disability services without an official diagnosis -.- edit: ive finally been diagnosed, and i did the math: it took me 9 years to get diagnosed! the average for my condition is 3-6 years.

[@Dutch3DMaster]

That sounds so much like departments not communicating with each other....worst I had was being scheduled an appointment at an endocrinologist at 30 years of age who worked at the children-side of the gender clinic, and the hospital seemed to find out in time that wasn't going to work very well...

[@somedude172]

@@Dutch3DMaster wow.. imagine the doctors surprise when they think theyre gonna be getting some young teen, then a whole ass 30 year old human walks in 😂

[@Dutch3DMaster]

​@@somedude172 Honestly, I was curious if the doctor would have recognized me, because it was the endocrinologist who had screened me as a child because I was very short for my age and they wanted to rule out any hormonal causes (I didn't know back then I was transgender) because if there would've been any, I would've gotten growing hormones if my body would not have entered boy puberty on it's own. I would've liked to see if my last name (I was the endocrinologist's first patient after his graduation as one) and the note in my file that I'm one part of an identical twin rang a bell for him. :P (Fate is a weird thing sometimes...) As for getting a surprise as a doctor: I had a doctor's assistent suddenly measure my body height (body weight and fat and bone mass is done on a regular basis and when you are younger height is as well) because she estimated my age going of on my appearance. Since I had the shit measured out of me as a child I knew the drill, but before I had my heels firmly against the wall and my chin up just slightly she pulled the measuring tape down and got a reading, screwing up the process and shortening me by 2 centimeters (168 instead of 170). 6 months later, I had an appointment at the endocrinologist again and the assistent (a different one basically everytime) saw I had been measured and decided to do that as well, did it right and saw I had an increase in height by 2 centimeters and without any reservation asked me if I had noticed myself growing, and I blurted out something like "Well, that would certainly take a scientific miracle!" and was so gobsmacked that I at that moment was unable to explain it further, so we got to the weighing station thing which requires entering the patients age, so I mentioned I am 31, and she went "Oh, now I get why you mentioned the scientific miracle thing...." (As for being estimated younger, that's not exactly new, but it was stupid that it happened in a hospital)

[@sophiehobley828]

I'm curious what you got diagnosed with! Did you know yourself what you had and just need the official stamp? Did they manage to treat it or is it just managable? And how did university go?

[@MrPiousFlint]

Is it just me or does Noah look like Jamie Bell, when he was younger?

[@lizzyluna2414]

I didn’t even realize the video was 31 minutes Thank you for everything you helped a lot

[@Queer_Nerd_For_Human_Justice]

I only had breast reduction, but that thing about sitting up straighter after surgery, wanting to dance and shake around, that's real. I feel just, shackled. I'm always slouching.

[@loeandbehold4808]

Honestly, having acne is kinda euphoric for me?? As a trans guy, it makes me fit in with other guys my age, despite my hight and shit.

[@parisz]

❤️

[@tinywhineygrimeylad4445]

actually same!! i mean acne sucks but it helps .

[@darrenholloway930]

These stories are so important for people to hear. I don’t know a lot about the trans journey mainly cause that’s not part of my journey but I am still interested to educate myself. What comes across so clear in your video is how happy you both are post top surgery. How can people react so badly to the trans community when the steps you are taking is making you so happy.

[@melissabarrett9750]

The people who react badly to the trans community simply can't accept another person's need or right to be comfortable in their own skin when nature didn't see fit to give them that. They seem to enjoy trying to impose misery upon trans people and almost welding them into a gender designed body cast of the biosex they are which will destroy them psychologically, which is unnecessarily sadistic and inhumane

[@hannahbeatrizz]

wow, i really learned so so much from this video! im not part of the lgbtq+ community, i grew up in a very christian household, school and a very religious country in general. the only time id hear about trans people were on tv (usually negative) or youtubers. its really so interesting to hear your experiences and the hardships yall had to do go through. before this video ive really only heard of people taking T and surgeries. the process is so so long and difficult. you guys are amazing, thank you for this video!! i really feel like i gained a whole new perspective on things. love yall, subscribed to you both 💕

[@dakota8002]

My doctor was just like "do u ever want kids?" and I was like "nope" She checked a box, and we moved on, I was pretty relieved that I didn't have to explain myself or anything

[@mazzy_ivy]

pog doctor :D

[@cappujhino]

Wait I didn't know egg freezing for trans people was even a thing this actually just made me so happy :0

[@hellyhellhound]

i didn't either

[@triciaivers2572]

yep we can still have bio kids

[@kameronjames7793]

"I looked like Teressa May!" IM SCREAMING

[@ellisgriffiths5221]

Not to be depressing, but this lowkey made me really upset bc they got to transition so quickly, but I got referred to Leeds the same time Noah first got referred to an adult clinic and guess what? Still waiting.

[@kaileytaylor4518]

Hang in there. Just try to keep in mind how much happier you will feel later on down the line when it's all over with. The wait will all be worth it in the end, and you can make it.

[@Isak-H]

I know, waiting times fucking suck

[@xArianatorGirlx]

Same here....

[@orangew3988]

Ellis, it fucking sucks. I'm there with you. I am so so happy that these guys got the healthcare that, honestly, we all deserve. But in the past 18 months, Noah has spent over 11 grand on healthcare. I'm 27 and I do not have access to anything near that kinda finance. It's my own jealousy I have to deal with, it's just fucking hard.

[@picanigeorgello2847]

It’s fucking miserable transitioning in the UK. It was a lot easier even 1-2 years ago when my friend transitioned. I haven’t even started yet but I fully expect to be waiting like 2 years

[@tdeggz]

"egg freezing was 5k, thats like top surgery money!" **cries in american with no trans health options covered by insurance**

[@pilsplease7561]

Literally everything is covered in the us you must have some bad insurance both of mine cover mtf stuff.

[@oWoUwUoWoUwU]

@@pilsplease7561 depends on the state and your income tbh

[@grimeydanny4214]

@@pilsplease7561 yeah maybe its different from state to state? im in md, and nothing covers trans fertility treatments or surgeries. t is more commonly covered, but only if you have good insurance

[@pilsplease7561]

@@grimeydanny4214 It is covered out in california, matter of fact surgery is pretty much universally covered and hormones are cheap enough that it isnt a real factor.

[@grimeydanny4214]

@@pilsplease7561 dangg i gotta move lol thats incredible

[@tonytheparamorestan]

My first reaction when I clicked on the video was ''OH MY GOD, NOAH IS SO ADORABLE, I CAN'T BREATHE'' I don't watch him, so it's probably like the second time I see him :D

[@6luelights2]

Billie eilish is bae

[@tonytheparamorestan]

@@6luelights2 she surely is

[@thephilosopher5799]

Shes a industry plant but I love ocean eyes tbh

[@melissabarrett9750]

Some years later and I've only been watching him for about six weeks or so, but I really like him here. Not a fan of his currently blond, floppy hairdo, it isn't very masculine. I love his music, too

[@hanayaoliveira1988]

i find it really informative that Jamie had such terrible experiences while Noah had the complete oposit. |It can go either way and that is very important to know

[@skyclaw]

‘Monthly cycle’ sounds like someone who has a bike but only rides it occasionally.

[@kerstiesweeney]

What a smart, well spoken kid. He very much impressed me. 💖😊💖

[@LeonBell]

MY TWO FAVOURITES You're both wholesome but even more so together ahaha and the fact that Shaaba was in the corner made my heart melt❤️

[@higuerap1975]

!!!! Hi dude, i didnt think id come across your yt channel, im a fan of your insta!

[@LeonBell]

@@higuerap1975 thank you💖

[@enbyoyo]

"BRUH YOU'RE LIKE A DAD"

[@bethanywilliams3753]

it is so nce hearing 2 ftm's talking about their experiences. 3 yrs ago, i thought i was trans but about 6 months ago, my disphoria about my body started to go away and i am now genderfluid. i havent come out as i have quite sterotypical parents but my friends have been so supportive. jamie and noah, you have helped me realise that being genderfluid is special and i cant thank you enough for that

[@sheepy-dk3gz]

You guys are literaly safing my life. I am about to "find myself", pretty sure I am a trans-man but still I am not ready to realy accept it and searching for easyer ways to feel ok with me, myself and so on. There is so much to loose if I transition (fertility, friends and a six years relationship) and I dont know weather it is worth it. I am very scared about endig up all alone and desperate cause people might turn there back on me. Every time my brain starts kind of a big "tantrum of worries" I start watching your videos and becoming optimistic again because of you. I start to hope that one day I might be a selfconfident and authentic man as you are. Dont know weather this is proper english, but I hope you got what I wanna say and accept the hugs I am just sending you via this commend. Greetings from germany.

[@kazemizu6284]

Hey pal, how's it going? I hope you feel better right now then when you wrote this. I remember when I came out. With some people it felt like I was walking right into a Strom, with other I was surer of myself. But with everyone, it ended up turning out ok, and if it didn't, then it would have been a good riddance. Feeling terrible because you try to please other doesn't work out in the long run. I'm just a little ways from coming out to my extended family (with the support of my immediate family) so that's something that'll be quite nerve-wracking, but itll be alright. I hope you are happy(-er) by now, lots of love! :) (I just realized that, since I'm from Germany as well, I could have written this in German. Well. It be like that)

[@duffman18]

I hope you're doing OK mate All I can say is that anyone you lose as a friend because you come out to them, was never a real friend. It's actually a great way to cut out all the people in your life that are bringing you down, or are toxic, because this really reveals who they are if they abandon you. Then you're left with your true friends, and you get so so much closer to them, you can end up telling them everything, intimate things, and get their help and advice and their shoulder to lean on. My experience is quite a bit different, in that I'm not trans, I have schizophrenia. You'd be shocked at how easily friends you've known for years abandon you when you tell them you're mentally ill. The stigma is real, bro. And it did hurt me a lot for a time. But yeah the friends I have left I am closer to than ever, they are my family, legitimately. They've genuinely saved my life numerous times when I was close to suicide. But yeah I know that's obviously a different sort of thing, mental illness, compared to coming out as trans. But the thing of losing friends is the same. And trust me, it's absolutely the best thing to get rid of those toxic people. I've never been happier since telling everybody. Genuinely. Fortunately when I came out as bi, none of them cared. Even the ones who left because of the schizophrenia. Like I guess in my country it's such a non issue, oh you're gay or bi? Well you also have blonde hair and are 6ft tall. That's how normalised and accepted it is in my country, luckily. We don't have radical fundamentalist Christians in my country really, unlike say the USA, so it's just not a big deal, and that's great. But yeah, coming out. It's scary, really scary. But do you want friends that don't even respect who you are? And the relationship thing. I don't know really, every relationship I've had I tell them pretty early on I'm schizophrenic because I don't want to sort of lead them on in a way. And none of them left, they didn't get scared and run away, they just accepted it. Schizophrenia is legally a disability, in my country at least, and so they sort of treated it like that, like they were worried about me, but they weren't scared off or anything. In a long term relationship? Well you're going to have to tell them sometime. You can't live a lie for the rest of the time you're with them. If they leave because of it, it's going to hurt. But hurt passes. Eventually. We all have sad breakups in our life. And it's tricky, because if it's a guy and they're not gay or bi, it's just perhaps not gonna be compatible, even if you still both love each other. I dunno. But you've got to tell them. Happiness comes from within, not from other people, from friends or boyfriends or girlfriends or whatever. Getting a relationship to fix your unhappiness has never worked in the history of relationships. Your happiness has got to be your own, and being your true self is gonna be the way to do that. And casting off the toxic people who can't even accept the reality of who you are, is only going to make you happier in the long term. And that's what it's all about.

[@danirice218]

I died at the end when Noah said Bruh you’re like a dad He really is tho

[@sassybdassi6686]

Noah's energy is crazy and I love it

[@roguewolf7053]

I’m not trans...but I went thru MULTIPLE attempts at fertility treatments which included egg retrieval. Those hormones are the WORST! I cant imagine going thru that at 17!😣 However...HAD I done it at 17 I likely would’ve actually been able to have a kid. 😕 I honestly think Trans people are REALLY STRONG mentally, physically & emotionally. 💕 I have a degree in psychology & was a nurse...so I knew a lot of the psychology behind it and have taken care of people who had the surgeries. You are all so strong and brave for doing everything you do to make your outsides match what you feel inside.

[@kieranshae]

My gender place didn't ask me about doing fertility when I started T. I was 28. I would've said yes. I feel a bit cheated now.

[@KimberleyJamieson]

That’s irresponsible. I’m sorry they didn’t discuss your future fertility chances

[@foxandscout]

How long ago was that Kieran? And I’m sorry you weren’t given that option. Because even if you end up never wanting a child, not being given that option when that option exists was so wrong. I just wonder when asking about fertility became a standard procedure.

[@hellyhellhound]

maybe they assumed you knew you needed to do that if you wanted kids?

[@sara_23_]

OMG he's taking so fast!!!! English it's not my mother tongue I am struggling 😂😂

[@salcdaniel4240]

I'm in love with this duo already.

[@transientdaydreams]

"You're like a dad!" cracked me up (and to be fair, the Cool/Good Dad vibes are real). It was really nice listening to you two talking about your experiences--and hey, for once, I'm watching something the day it comes out!

[@s7ormyreal]

are those mcr album covers i see in the backdrop?

[@liannebuehler3043]

Strongnite - N.B. YE, he mentions them in his room tour video :)

[@seb.is.missing]

Also Pretty.Odd

[@elsa3288]

Noah and jammi seem so excited talking about their experiences, it makes the supposedly painful experience sounds like a happy story

[@melissabarrett9750]

The end result is positive and you can see their joy at how far they've come to being them men on the outside that they are on the inside

[@kerriannechilders]

Watching this video makes me super happy for my future. I’m so ready to not wake up and have dysphoria ruin every day of my life. I’m almost three months on T and about to start really saving for top surgery. I’ve already picked my surgeon. All I gotta do is figure it all out at this point.

[@randallmilton3975]

I’ve been waiting for this!! Love you both 💕💕🏳️‍🌈

[@pamelaJoyce384]

Adored this ! Noah, Mary at the clinic called you a ditty dumpling (sp).

[@NOAHFINNCE]

THAT WAS IT!

[@ryanrooney4822]

I didn't even know these 2 knew each other😂

[@dinosaur1583]

augh when y'all were talking about parents taking away binders my mom won't let me wear mine at home or anything and threatens to take it away constantly

[@ei6728]

spooky trash hope you’re doing ok :(

[@beth7935]

That's AWFUL. I so hope things get better for you.

[@andrewhaywood3853]

That is so wrong, I hope you’re ok 👌

[@nicolar6461]

I’m not trans but I love watching these vids...I dunno why....interesting for one, and think it’s amazing how lots people must get so much support from this xx

[@sofinuxexx]

noah: bruh you look like a dadd omg noah I love u so much

[@LeoIsAwesome17]

So interesting to hear other people's transition stories! I went to my therapist in December 2014 started T gel in January 2015 and had top surgery in February 2015.

[@jm8640]

“I’m not jealous, I’m just happy for you” Noah is wholesome

[@laulaurenni]

Omg, I got surgery in my stomach twice and listening to everything you explained, I got actual nausea just imagining the pain you must have been through! You guys were so strong to get through all of this multiple times... an I can't imagine having to pay so much money to just get to a point where you're just ok with your body, this is so harsh to put such a financial hinderance to get procedures done that are sooo essential, it's so unfair, it should totally be covered by your healthcare! Especially having heard Jammi once mention that it literally was the savings for buying a house that went into the transitioning surgery, this is so harsh to have to make a choice between your basic wellbeing in general and you future financial situation and projects, that should never be a thing! As if transgender people didn't have enough working against them in our society! It makes me both sad and angry! I really hope for the best for you two and any other person that has to go through that, for your present and future life. You deserve the best coming your way! Omg, I'm crying, I'm sorry, but this is so terrible that this is still where we're at as a society! Love you guys, you're just great, keep living your best lives and I hope the best is yet to come, you deserve all the happiness in the world! Same for any one reading who's in a similar situation!

[@janelann5523]

Omg I wish I knew what it feels like to overcome dysphora !! Made me cry hearing y'all. Y'all are blessed

[@phaedrus4931]

21:08 "I'm not jealous, I'm just happy for you." Scroll down to hit "like." Oh no! I already hit it ten minutes ago!!!

[@Amozon28]

a tip i would suggest for looking/feeling more masculine, is as long as it doesnt make u dysphoric, try using makeup to contour your face. makeup can be masculine or feminine depending on how u use it and ive seen lots of trans male makeup tutorials and honestly cosplay tutorials as well that show masculine makeup looks. but i think jamie said it best. just experiment with a little bit of everything and see what works

[@BubbleCutie1001]

i love their dynamic like jamie is literally just noahs dad i love both of u sm

[@jenniferowen3629]

What you guys have been through and are able to make this happy, fun, helpful, hopeful video for us.... So much respect and love. And thanks x

[@R4TF4NGS]

this is my second time watching this, the waiting list is horrible, but being at college and being busy does actually really help so. keeping busy is such good advice!

[@yugenanimations5870]

Me: I want top surgery Also me: *has a severe phobia of vomiting* 😐

[@geesuslovescheesewhiz8552]

That’s the most relatable thing I have ever seen

[@t.deshawn6519]

Vomiting isn't inevitable. I didn't do it after top surgery, maybe you won't either 🤷‍♂️ I wish you all the best 😁👍

[@spitedrowning]

Ohmygod same

[@alexjustice1337]

Is this something that happens.

[@m.w.kaplan447]

i never threw up or was even nauseous, and if you think you'll react badly to the anaesthesia (since thats why most ppl throw up) just let the surgery team know! typically you can predict your response based on whether your close family reacts poorly. your anesthesiologist can help by using a dif dose, giving IV anti-nausea before you wake up, etc. they did this for me during my top surgery and even though my mom and her mom both react badly I was totally fine.

[@lauradipino3742]

Waited so long for this collab! So cool

[@everettthechemicallyimbala7409]

Thank you, Noah, for giving me another reason to not want children 😂

[@mason6950]

Drake The Killjoy dude same, i wanted to adopt anyway if i want kids at some point, but that story there just made me lose any doubts on that decision 😂

[@everettthechemicallyimbala7409]

@@mason6950 I don't like children, and I'm terrified of being like my parents because they have fucked up nearly every kid they've been in contact with and I'm a terrible influence, I've legit trained my cousins before I'm not meant to be a parent 😂

[@NOAHFINNCE]

omg i thought u meant i was a child and that i was so annoying that u didn't want kids but now i understand LMAOBFDGND

[@everettthechemicallyimbala7409]

@@NOAHFINNCE 😂 nah man you're great

[@Danny-wn1gn]

Drake the Chemically Imbalanced Romance I love everything about your name and icon thinh

[@bumblebeez7748]

Jamie is one of my favorite KZbinrs to watch because I’m constantly reminded that he had to go through all the stuff that I’m going to have to go through and he made it and his transition is so beautiful and mine can be too. It gives me so much confidence knowing that even though I’m only out online and to a few of my irl friends right now, one day I’ll be able to live in a body I’m comfy with.

[@rayneTheWolfe]

Its insane seeing how far both of them have come, Jamie and Noah, you both are amazing and I’m so happy for you guys.

[@abfg616]

For some reason as soon as I looked at my screen I immediately thought omg "Jamie has a son" 😭

[@aschetrash9878]

I'm so glad I found another trans guy talking about inverted nipples and stuff bc I've been SO scared about top surgery bc of mine

[@freezyberries]

I love how this was basically a video of a conversation

[@wevergreen9322]

As an ally and someone always wanting to learn, this video was SUPER informative! Thank you for all the info and personal stories. Your ability to laugh at the embarrassing stuff is admirable and appreciated :)

[@emmettmccall9890]

forever greatful for planned parenthood. Had my initial appointment September 13 2019 and started t September 20

[@galacticbreadboi9796]

Congrats!