Trans Women Are Women

[@CreationMyths]

Important notes: 1. Three episodes of the Maintenance Phase podcast on this topic that everyone should listen to: ""Rapid-Onset Gender Dysphoria" Part 1: The Cooties Theory of Transgender Identity": podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/rapid-onset-gender-dysphoria-part-1-the-cooties/id1535408667?i=1000655034746 "Rapid-Onset Gender Dysphoria" Part 2: Panic! At The Endocrinologist.": podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/rapid-onset-gender-dysphoria-part-2-panic-at-the/id1535408667?i=1000659375268 "BONUS: Breaking Down The Latest Anti-Trans Victory Lap": podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/bonus-breaking-down-the-latest-anti-trans-victory-lap/id1535408667?i=1000660772408 2. Transphobic comments get instabanned. One strike policy. You all know the deal. FAFO. For anyone who sees offending comments between now (right after the premiere) and the following morning, I apologize. I'm leaving up the ban-bait overnight. Then: The Purge. Edit: 3. The Purge has begun. If you see that a comment or thread has vanished, it’s because I nuked a bunch of transphobes who just couldn’t resist.

[@ThatBoomerDude56]

To be clear: *Trans women* are *women* and should be afforded the respect of being considered woman and being addressed as women. NOTHING I said is contrary to that. Again: If you ban me, you do it because of your own prejudice and your own assumptions about me. Are you willing to have a rational discussion? Or not?

[@jell0goeswiggle]

This comment is funny to me because of the general professional tone of your channel. I'm having a hard time imagining you saying FAFO or TFB. Good on you, though.

[@CreationMyths]

@@abcxyz2927 ooooooooh "you should die" is a new one. People have mostly been sticking with pretty generic transphobia. But not you! You're an overachiever. Bye!

[@lerualnaej5917]

Appreciate this, and I especially appreciate the nod to GamerGate. The online atheist and skeptic community was ENORMOUSLY involved in the general "anti-sjw" movement of 10 years ago that morphed into the alt-right and contributed so much to the extreme shift we've seen in the Overton window and the general degradation of public discourse about any topic that doesn't center cis-ness, male-ness, whiteness, straightness, etc. There's a relatively direct line of cascading effects from "SJWs are ruining video games," organized and publicized largely by "skeptics" on KZbin to "DEI caused Baltamore's bridge to collapse." It's been a problem for a long time, and it's still a fucking problem. Something about being so sure of yourself and your worldview that you'll ignore evidence that conflicts with it and follow political alliances that feed that feeling of "Of course my gut is correct!" Coming from an evangelical background, I've said for YEARS that many "skeptics" just trade Jesus for some other form of evangelism, drive the same wagon with a new coat of paint. Some of y'all are just happy you've found a new way to spread the Good News Of I'm Correct and now that you proudly say "I don't believe in 6000 years!" you've never stopped to consider what other things you still believe that came from the same source.

[@CreationMyths]

So much this. I've said this elsewhere, but I'm gonna keep saying it: Gamergate was an extremely important (and extremely underrated) inflection point in the political history of 21st century United States. So much of what we're dealing with now grew straight out of that.

[@atombomb9332]

Can't wait for the "I came to your channel for content about creationists, not this woke shit" crowd to coming from the woodwork as if creationists only have beliefs about evolution and creation and nothing else.

[@CreationMyths]

That is 100% going to happen. My message to those people: TFB.

[@smaakjeks]

It already happened. Check the comments, lol

[@katinapac-baez5083]

Lol, that was quick, smdh

[@atombomb9332]

@@smaakjeks Oh yeah I've seen the " it was fun while it lasted" and the " Something something x and y biology" guys already

[@johnhunter5724]

​@@CreationMythsTFB? I'm old, I don't know these abbreviations 😢

[@susansays]

I love, love, LOVE how unafraid you are to address topics like this. You are constantly impressing me.

[@kappasphere]

Thank you for speaking out on this! One thing that I think should be clarified is that this focus on naturally occurring intersex conditions works really well to debunk any proposed naive definitions of biological sex, but those conditions shouldn't be confused as being the one thing that validates someone's gender identity being different from their assigned sex. So basically, being trans doesn't actually hinge on any of the conditions that you presented, but the intersex conditions do debunk most anti-trans talking points.

[@Venaloid]

Yeah, I'm kind of confused why he's talking about intersex conditions when the issue for a trans person is their gender identity. Sex and gender are supposed to be two different things.

[@AlbertaGeek]

_"being trans doesn't actually hinge on any of the conditions that you presented"_ Because of course an unqualified nobody like you knows better than he does.

[@MossyMozart]

Yes. Beyond chromosomes, brain scans have demonstrated a biological imperative for transgendered persons to feel the way they do. (Maybe someday hormone exposure will be tied in or other embryonic events will be identified.) Life is so complex and endlessly fascinating!

[@silverharloe]

Agreed. if we were to go the full GATTACA on our species, most intersex conditions would disappear from the next generation - but trans people would still exist, and should still be accepted.

[@stevegeorge623]

Had you as a professor and loved your lectures. Found this channel and I respect you even more, s/o the GOAT Dr Stern

[@PrixyPurple]

I wish I had Dr. Dan as a prof!!

[@creationismsuperthesisguy]

@@PrixyPurple I actually just went back to college after ten years to get a biology degree, and Dr. Dan is a big part of the reason why! Yes, I would absolutely love to have him as a professor

[@ThinkerT]

Nice work Dr. Dan. Forrest Valkai also did a great video called "Sex and Sensibility" on the topic, which I believe he's taken down now because he's in the process of creating an updated one. People should keep an eye out for that.

[@CreationMyths]

Absolutely, I'm sure Forrest will do a much more comprehensive job than I did here.

[@andybeans5790]

Prof Dave also made a few videos, his first one wasn't received well so he liaised with trans people to make a better one.

[@MossyMozart]

@ThinkerT - That is a great video. But I see a bunch of "response" videos, one that says it's "demolishing Forrest Valkai's video". >_< I hope his replacement will be as excellent as the original "Sex and Sensibility". ---------- I see one on _Rationality Rules_ (but he's not always rational, in my view), with Valkai as a guest, called "The Science of Sex and Gender | The Rational Roundtable with Forrest Valkai ‪@RenegadeScienceTeacher‬". I have not watched it.

[@unicyclist97]

Ohhh that's why it was taken down! I was trying to figure out what had happened. I look forward to the next one.

[@jazzpear8877]

@@andybeans5790that’s good, I stopped watching Dan after that because he really mishandled the subject.

[@APRENDERDESENHANDO]

I think that all these discussions about definitions arr missing the point. If gender disphoria exists and these people actually suffer living as the gender assigned at birth and if their lives improve by identifying as the other gender, why can't we respect that independently of biological definitions?

[@KaiHenningsen]

Because of _made up reason_ of course! No, there's no problem with trans people the instigators are trying to solve. They just need an enemy to make people afraid, so they invent reasons. Because afraid people go to church and vote for authoritarian politicians. That's all.

[@chris-io9zt]

​@@KaiHenningsen Precisely. Mega thumbs up.

[@Soapy-chan]

because bigots don't want to respect others

[@JeremySnyder-p3d]

That is good until you get into some controversies such as medicine or athletic competition.

[@dannyeisenga]

I agree it should be as simple as that. But the people who don't want to do that are using 'just basic biology' as both an excuse to be bigoted and as an argument to get other less informed people on their side. That's why it's important to push back against that narrative.

[@thylacoleonkennedy7]

What frustrates me is that transphobes will complain that 'men shouldn't be in women's sports because they're stronger and have an unfair advantage!' (as though that doesn't imply -- if not outright state -- that they don't think cis women can be good at sports) and in the same breath decry the use of puberty blockers that would prevent the progress of male puberty that leads to that in the first place. It's inherently contradictory.

[@johnburn8031]

Agreed. The claim that trans women are 'dominating' female sports is simply not backed by evidence. Trans women do not have an unfair advantage, especially after undergoing hormone replacement therapy, which aligns their physical characteristics with those of cis women. The real issue here is the transphobia behind the argument, which seeks to undermine both trans athletes and cis women by implying that they can't compete at a high level. It's a baseless and harmful narrative.

[@ThatBoomerDude56]

If you want to advocate for trans rights, you might want to consider making rational arguments. Which means *not* what you said here. The fact that male athletes are generally significantly stronger and faster than female athletes absolutely *does not* mean that women "can't be good at sports." Your own anti-feminist prejudices are showing.

[@smaakjeks]

It's because they don't actually care about sports, or women's safety or whatever. They just want trans-people gone from existence.

[@CreationMyths]

@@qazhrThe regret rate is lower than for almost every other medical intervention. Learn something if you can break through the haze of bigotry and indoctrination. Also, you'll be banned shortly for your other comment. Just FYI.

[@CreationMyths]

@@ThatBoomerDude56 You are living up to your username. And you'll banned too. Take that shit somewhere else.

[@MarkC88]

Wasn't it about a decade ago that the online skeptic/science advocacy community had a big split over whether or not rampant sexism was cool? Seems like a few of the same folks too.

[@KaiHenningsen]

I just mentioned one such instance in another comment ... some of us remember! As for the opposition, Rebecca has a KZbin channel, so does PZ, and presumably quite a lot of others, too.

[@CreationMyths]

Oh man I think it was more than that. Who remembers elevatorgate? Eeeesh.

[@KaiHenningsen]

@ Of those who were aware of it happening, who doesn't?

[@BareTuna]

I just want to say thank you, because up until now my understanding of biological sex was that it is binary (but that gender identity is a spectrum). So it makes me happy to learn that sex is also a spectrum, that is way more interesting :)

[@mikahbee]

Fascinatingly it's not just not a binary among humans, but among many creatures, plants, and fungi! That's actually what led Dr Kinsey (of the oh so famous Kinsey scale) to go down the path he did. He was studying insects and found they didn't fit into a binary like was expected, and he wondered if humans did the same. I'm summarizing greatly but you get the idea I hope.

[@Incinerate1212]

you are easy to delude it seems.. sex is binary.. XX vs XY in the chromosomes.. not 1 thing can change that...

[@Trombi01]

@@Incinerate1212 Except, there is also X, XXY, XYY, Swyer syndrome where XY people have functioning wombs, de chapele syndrome where XX people have working male parts etc. We can also look at primary and secondary sex charesteristics, and see that those are distributed on a spectrum, not in binary fashion. Pretty bold of you to tell biologist, that they are deluded about biology.

[@slothape]

Honest question; does this apply to non human animals too? To my knowledge, nobody doubts whether animals are male or female but they may just not be looking into it in the same way they might for a person.

[@secularidiot9052]

Kinda, because this whole issue stems from sociological factors, so for this to apply onto non-humans those non-humans would have to have defined gender norms and roles that can be subverted. I believe there is actually a case of this among baboons where a population was found that had reversed gender roles, with females being the dominant “alphas” while the males were their submissive husbands. But that isn’t so much transgender as it is a cultural shift, and my opinion (although I am no anthropologist) is that transgender individuals emerge in populations where selection pressures are significantly reduced.

[@creationismsuperthesisguy]

SO I've been taking a sociology course and have been wanting to make a video about the same topic. As always you're way ahead of me! Great video.

[@creationismsuperthesisguy]

Also, my go to argument, and this has literally NEVER failed, with transphobes is to just ask them; what is the best treatment for gender dysphoria. You will NEVER hear them say the actually correct answer; matching their gender expression to their gender identity. That is the ACTUAL correct answer. But they will always say something like "Not playing into their delusions!" "Help them realize it's just a phase and don't feed into their gender identity!" or something like that. Which, no. Not even close. Those are NOT the best treatment methods, those methods produce a god awful amount of SUICIDES in people with gender dysphoria. So you know as soon as they say that they don't actually give a shit about trans people. They don't care about any of the relevant facts, science or research. They want trans people to stop being trans or to hide their trans identity because seeing trans people grosses them out and makes them uncomfortable. I asked that question during the last MDD row over the subject and Josh gave the exact answer of "do the thing that has caused tons of suicides and not the thing that actually helps people be more stable and mentally healthy." Taylor said "We should research that!" Oh Taylor you sweet naive bitch-sicle. We HAVE researched that.

[@MossyMozart]

Thank you so much for adding your voice and education to this topic. I have a transwoman friend that I am afraid for in this toxic radical right climate.

[@simongordon8182]

I agree with so much of what you say including the majority of what you say here, there is however one thing I would question… by definition if we accept sex is non binary and if we accept that this is because as you correctly say some people have complex sex situations and may have medical procedures to become comfortable, why do we then want to force the end result back into binary terminology. Indeed saying a trans woman is a woman not a trans woman is denying that they are a trans woman. Btw the issue with your statistics is that, if the % of trans people is say 2%, then as trans people become more accepted (which is a good thing) then by definition the number of trans athletes will trend towards that same 2%.

[@PawelLachowicz.]

I'm obviously agreed with you on this topic. Yet there's something, I'm confused about. Organism produces male or female gametes so technically, in contexts of reproduction, there are tow sexes - there are no intermediate types of sex cells between sperm- and egg cells.. There is spectrum of sexual characteristics, so it is the spectrum between or around or out of the two sexes. This is my understanding and I can't I can't tell what's wrong with it?

[@gordmain5370]

Thank-you Dr. Dan. I feel very strongly that trans people should be allowed to live their lives without backlash or other negative response, but I lack the knowledge to argue my point. Videos like this further my education so I may, in time, be an ally.

[@mishakorshkov7677]

I think the reasoning is a little flawed here. In the first half of the video you listed some of genetic and developmental issues that can lead to intersexuality to make a point that sex isn't binary. Ok, I totally agree that these things exist, biology is strange and complicated. However at 6:22 you have concluded that sex is solely determined by identity, which seemingly has nothing to do with your previous line of argumentation. If sex is disconnected from biology, why did you even make biological arguments?

[@StueGrifn]

Sex isn't disconnected from biology, nor did Dan argue so. Dan argued that reducing the "strange and complex" biology of the self-expression of sex to a single variable is *always* reductive to the point of inaccuracy. Consider all of the spectra shown at 2:08, and any additional spectra you could come up with. For all of the attempts to classify sex along any of these spectra, each and every one has exceptions to it -- except identity. A person's self-perception is what they say it is, 100% of the time, without exception. I'm not ready to start 'No True Scotsman'-ing people's self-perceptions as an outside observer. "There are five lights Jean-Luc," "No, the gaslights in the room haven't dimmed," and so on.

[@MossyMozart]

Why was my post evaporated? Because I quoted a peer-reviewed paper showing transwomen (designated "male" at birth) have brains that seem to match structures of CIS-women? Sheesh! Well, they do, KZbin algorithm!

[@mikahbee]

No, he said that the trans person's sex is whatever they say it is. Sex characteristics do not define sex nor gender. That's the whole point.

[@unicyclist97]

Gender is a social construct. Sex is highly variable in multiple aspects, but the point you seem to be missing here is that you are your mind, not your body. You can't change someone's identity no matter how much you torture them, which is why conversion therapy doesn't work. That's why all the evidence and all of the experts agree that the best outcome for trans people is to adapt the body to match the mind, not the other way around.

[@KaiHenningsen]

In the latter part, he should have used "gender" instead of "sex". That's really the only critique I have.

[@Venaloid]

I'm confused, are you saying that sex and gender are the same thing?

[@Nai61a]

I didn't get that from his vid.

[@CharlesPayet]

Also - THANK YOU, Dan!

[@evilgingerminiatures5820]

looking forward to this

[@MysteryEmerging]

Thank you.

[@lucbourhis3142]

I really don't understand why Coyne and Dawkins want to die on that hill. Fair enough, the spectrum you talk about is a probability distribution with two very big peaks, that we colloquially name man and woman, but everybody gets that, it's utterly trivial. And the very expression transwoman would not make sense if there were not those two categories. But then why do Coyne and Dawkins absolutely want to stick to one and one criterion only? And why is Dawkins happily spreading misinformation, as we saw this summer with Imane Khelif? That broke the camel back completely for me that particular instance. We have a girl who managed to become an elite boxer in a very patriarchal society where many people consider a woman should absolutely not be on a ring showing her legs and her shoulders. But she overcame these prejudices, so much so that she is supported by nearly everyone in Algeria. I live in France, where there is a sizeable community of people from that country, and many paraded in the street for her. She is a hero of feminism. But in the name of feminism, Dawkins just repeated the falsehood thrown at her by a corrupt Russian boxing organisation. Dawkins lost all respect from me.

[@chris-io9zt]

I fear that I am going to succumb to conspiratorial thinking on this. Have these otherwise illustrious scientists been bribed by elon or blackmailed by putin?

[@jessejones1420]

Hes a biological absolutist

[@covertcuttlefish2023]

My hypothesis is they find trans people icky but can't say that part out loud.

[@seraphonica]

this is what academic integrity looks like, and I appreciate it. thank you.

[@Jneedstostopobssessing]

Thank you

[@chrisfriel2003]

This just sounds like apologetics. Being “broadly on the left” myself (and spending time on the “old left”), I’m so discouraged by this line of argument. Nothing you say is untrue, but you make some broad and sweeping statements, and then defer to experts in a link down below. If you’re going to take a run at the topic - do better. We just yell at each other, while the majority of common sense individuals who need to learn, hear nothing but the noise.

[@DavidSmith-vr1nb]

Dawkins was always a little bit far-right in his thinking, iirc.

[@KaiHenningsen]

The first time most of us (who were around back then) noticed him shitting the bed with his "Dear Muslima" letter. He's been having lots of shit takes since then.

[@Goreuncle]

Do yourself a favor and travel back in time to nazi Germany or fascist Italy / Spain, etc. to learn what "far-right" actually means.

[@KaiHenningsen]

@@Goreuncle I'm not sure if Dawkins was like that early, and I don't t think he's fully on board with the right on every point - he's more in the category what some of them call a "useful idiot" - but the anti-trans rethoric (of pretty much everyone) is right out of the Nazi playbook. This led to the first Nazi book burnings on 6 May 1933 in Berlin.

[@cooscoe]

You really put everything that has been in my mind for months. Thanks for putting your voice to this rising issue!

[@DeElSendero]

Excellent explanations of trans development Dan! Much appreciated and hope you do more on it some time.

[@MilesDavisKDAB]

Good video but a couple of points. 1. Many people will not get past the "trans women are women" statement at the start. I don't know if you put it there to encourage people to watch the video or not but it is likely to stop people watching a video in which many of the most important points are made in the final quarter. 2. I have some trouble with the sex is not binary thing. Sex is either unambiguously male or unambiguously female or, on relatively rare occasions, some failure of the sex determination process. I have some direct knowledge of this both as a career biologist & because my twins were X0/XY mosaic. Anyway my point is that saying sex is not binary implies that some third sex is possible & this simply is not the case. The so called spectrum of sexual phenotypes are all the result of some mixture of two sexes & so if we want to get people to appreciate the genuine range of phenotypes that does exist I think it is unhelpful to assert that sex is not binary. Personally I accept the binary nature of sex & then try to get people to understand the biology of the variations that do occur. I find this usually leads to more productive conversations.

[@covertcuttlefish2023]

How do you feel about sex is bimodal? There's clearly a spectrum and if there's a spectrum by definition isn't not binary.

[@CreationMyths]

"Personally I accept the binary nature of sex & then try to get people to understand the biology of the variations that do occur." Hang it in a museum.

[@MilesDavisKDAB]

@@CreationMyths OK, but I'm not sure the more confrontational approach will be any more successful.

[@aralornwolf3140]

"Sex is either unambiguously male or unambiguously female or, on relatively rare occasions, some failure of the sex determination process." That's three "or"s.. Therefore, you admit there is a spectrum. A Bimodal distribution will result in the vast majority to be one or the other... but there will always be a minority who fall in between the modes. You even say this: "The so called spectrum of sexual phenotypes are all the result of some mixture of two sexes." You keep on saying "as a biologist" and "biology" and you paint yourself as an "authority figure". But we're not talking about _biology._ We're talking about a highly specialized subset of biology; _genetics._ You've shown that your knowledge of genetics is equivalent to the least informed layman. There is more to sex determination than mere X or Y chromosomes. The Y chromosome itself is a badly mutated version of the X chromosome... Some have theorized that it will eventually it will become so mutated that it will become nonfunctional. But don't worry, it's very likely functional X chromosomes would begin to replace the dysfunctional Y chromosome well before the species becomes extinct. This is evidence by an entire species of Rodentia that has no Y chromosomes whatsoever. Yet, the vast majority of the species have standard sexual dimorphic characteristics. If we want people to "appreciate the genuine range of phenotypes that does exist" then we first need to work on ourselves to excise the childish, and thoroughly outdated belief, that biology can be sorted into neat little boxes without any overlap between them. This misrepresentation helps children to understand the basics, but life, especially genetics, is way more complex than that because they aren't able to understand the real explanation so moving beyond this thinking is required to have an accurate understanding of biology. As adults, we know that anything that is a result of a bimodal distribution system cannot, ever, be binary. Furthermore, we are capable of setting aside our beliefs that things are binary when they are in fact not when we are presented evidence to the contrary. When we encounter a person who is wrong, we educate. Since this video, my comment, and even you, admit that sex isn't binary, this means you are _educated_ enough to _know_ your belief that sex is binary to be wrong. There are intersex people who are fully capable of reproducing. They are both and neither male and female. So, trying to fore them to conform to the "male"/"female" label is wrong. Now that you got more than a "Hang it in a museum" response... my suggestion to you is, for you to grow up, pay attention to your education (otherwise it's wasted), and do so before your mindset results in you harming your child(ren). Unless, you want to be just like creationists and flerfs; denying facts in support of scientifically disproven theories, then we'll treat you just as we do them, with mockery. And scorn for those who have the education to know better but prefer to use their education to push political agendas.

[@aralornwolf3140]

@@CreationMyths, I hope my message to Miles isn't deleted/hidden. I did my best to show how horrible his comment actually is.

[@goosie8207]

I greatly appreciate you for making this video and being a good ally. I understand your focus was on the term “biological sex” and that’s not an issue for me. I would suggest that gender is separate from sex, though it has as many variations in presentation if not more so. My gender and my physical phenotype didn’t match which causes me issues physiologically. I’m now in the process of correcting my phenotype and, if I’m very lucky, I’ll eventually be able to complete that process.

[@borisbauwens7133]

Good luck! (Edit: in a completely genuine, non sarcastic way. Since short comments can't show intent well)

[@aaronbredon2948]

Gender is definitely different from visible sex characteristics, but there exist evidence that a certain part of the development of the brain is a loosely sex-linked characteristic, and transgender people’s brains have the development of the gender they identify with. So if someone identifies as female to the point of gender dysphoria, they likely have brain chemistry typical of a female, and vice versa. But that chemistry doesn’t impact intellectual skills or likes/dislikes much - it’s mostly the “who am I” part of the brain that seems to be affected.

[@annestephens9631]

Thank you.

[@scottpreston3892]

How many sexes are there?

[@smaakjeks]

Why do you care? Just let people exist and live in peace, maybe?

[@CreationMyths]

Sex is a continuum!

[@evilgingerminiatures5820]

Its very messy & complicated & I am a lapsed chemist not a biologist but the TLDR as I understand it is that its very much a Bimodal spectrum with the peaks being what you would call Cis male and Cis female & that these peaks are significant enough compared to the rest of the range that on first look it looks like a binary, despite not being one. The only actual binary is when you get to the germ cells sperm and egg, but even that's some what misleading as its quite possible for an individual to produce one of those, both of those or none of them, its complicated.

[@DavidSmith-vr1nb]

Apparently there are 14 intersex conditions that can survive to puberty (most of the rest don't survive the first trimester of pregnancy), in addition to the typical XX and XY. Any of those 16 can experience dysphoria based on neurochemistry.

[@aralornwolf3140]

@@evilgingerminiatures5820, Biology is complicated... It's something most people don't want to think about, lol. We're just massively complex self-sustaining chemical reactions... millions, (or is it trillions?) of chemical reactions happening simultaneously...

[@MLaak86]

Glad to hear more of the actual science on this issue, hadn't heard a lot of these details previously - definitely a great starting off point for stuff to look at! Cheers.

[@CreationMyths]

Definitely watch the video at the top of the description - WAY better than this. It's great.

[@MLaak86]

@@CreationMyths I'd seen one by Forrest but it didn't really touch on details like this that I hadn't heard are more fleshed out than I thought.

[@mikahbee]

An excellent and pithy video, great for a quick share to people who have questions

[@PrixyPurple]

Great video as always!!!

[@beamsy9740]

The one thing I ask when seeing things like this is, what are you trying to accomplish?. As when asking the extremes of the other side it can be seen their basis stems from God made man and woman only, and the underpinning of wanting woman the home maker, man the power of the family. It has even been openly stated with the new bill just passed "Protection of Women and Girls in Sports Act" badly named and very vague in it's enforcement. But on the flip side the people suffering from the genetic conditions, Developmental conditions, and/or the environmental conditions are less then 1% (Hudson Institute of Medical Research, Hormone development research June-August 2024). So in the same way we prescribe that humans have 2 arms and 2 legs, as amputation rates of 5.5 per 100 000 to 14.5 per 100 000 (National Institutes of Health , Amputation Rates and Associated Social Determinants Jan 1 2024) it is better to say their is a binary and the ones that do not fall in "the boxes" get the assistance that is deemed correct by medical professionals and not made spectacles of or having attention drawn to them. As both just want to live their best life without the attention. Also why are the results of the 1960s/70s experiments from the New York’s Child Development Center not, everything known about that just makes what is happening now even more horrific. I will admit one issue with it is the records remain sealed at Yale University until 2065. But everything that has been made public is terrifying in what it did to those poor children. I ask because there has to be a easier way rather then all the barriers and controls of one way or the denial of reality and abuse of the other.

[@andrewp.7626]

I know exactly what spurred you to make this video (I’m a mod on the Peaceful Science forum). It was really disheartening to see some of those people, who are usually so solid on biology, have reactionary views on this topic.

[@CreationMyths]

This was in the works before that, but that was like “nope, doing it this week”. Very disappointing, yes.

[@vroitwyrd]

People like simple. Challenge the longstanding of what defines sex, a man, a women, challenges the cultural norm. People will prefer the simple answer over the nuanced one, and will hate you for challenging the status quo.

[@SpeciesPlantarum]

Good stuff Dr. Dan.

[@botarakutabi1199]

Thank you for explaining this! Happy this video exists. Only complaint is the video does seem to conflate sex and gender a bit.

[@epochalypsemeow5732]

I love you Dan. Thank you so much.

[@chables74]

*THANK YOU DR. DAN!!!*

[@DeathPetalArt]

Damn that was good ❤

[@CreationMyths]

@Dr.Ian-Plect Aaaaaaaaand you're gone.

[@ClarkVangilder]

Have you already done an explainer on "biological sex" that we can revisit, or perhaps a resource that you think gets it right? I'm prone to saying that it's about gamete size and mobility rather than gonads, but sense that I may need to upgrade that to better reflect the actual complexity. I've deferred that complexity to sexual development where DSD's inevitably lead to about 1% of humanity being intersex. Any advice on being more technically correct on this matter is greatly appreciated. As I ponder this anew, it seems that the existence of about 12 SWYER Syndrome pregnancies/births would demolish the so-called sex and/or gender binaries?

[@CreationMyths]

Check out the video I linked in the description, lots of info there, presented in a great way.

[@siim605]

This is a surprisingly unnuanced analysis. Nothing about finding the gender/sex distinction and this entire topic ridiculous has anything to do with being "used by the right". I'm from Europe and I always vote left, but this is a complete nothing-burger of a topic in my country. This is clearly a phenomenon that's mostly just American and concerns Americans. Heck, if conservatives are right about one issue, it may as well be a "broken clock is right twice a day" type of situation here, because saying a man can transition to be a woman, or vice versa, is obviously silly. Can we just roll words like "male" and "female", and "man" and "woman" back to being sex terms instead? This topic is pointless.

[@BiPlaneGloria]

Great video! 🔬🧬🏳️‍⚧️

[@IaMaPh1991]

Whelp, this channel was fun while it lasted. Peace. ✌

[@jloiben12]

Bye sexist

[@smaakjeks]

Yes. How dare he have compassion for people who just want to exist in peace. Don't let the door hit your butt on your way out.

[@DavidSmith-vr1nb]

Is that goodbye? Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

[@CreationMyths]

Apparently my initial reaction was so rude my own filters caught it! Anyway, buh-bye. You will be shown the door shortly.

[@smaakjeks]

@@CreationMyths Several of my comments have been removed as well X3

[@ACallToReason]

Thank you so much, Dr. Dan, for using your voice and platform to stand with us against the senseless bigotry and rampant misinformation about us! 💕🏳️‍⚧️ It's hard to describe the frustration of being unable to access any kind of media these days without being bombarded by hoards of hateful, ignorant people who absolutely refuse to apply any kind of critical thought regarding our existence and the science related to us.

[@CreationMyths]

Thank you for that, I appreciate hearing it.