Do you guys agree with my final thoughts? Too harsh or justified?
@axelgrease69 Жыл бұрын
Justified. So far I think Skullgrin and Crankcase are decent out of this wave
@TwistedaxleTV Жыл бұрын
You speak a lot of unnecessary words in your reviews. Clean it up. That is all
@pinkflare13 Жыл бұрын
Very excited for this video to have finally come out I think the criticisms are justified. Having a weird PVC Plastic seemed like a unnecessary decision, and while I actually like the tank mode I have to say it makes no sense for it to not have functional wheels or treads.
@PrimeVsPrime Жыл бұрын
@@axelgrease69 I agree! Thanks for hearing me out :)
@PrimeVsPrime Жыл бұрын
@@TwistedaxleTV Apologies man, its my speech pattern and its something that'll be quite hard to break :(
@ultramaximusreviews Жыл бұрын
I think it would have been cooler if the Pretenders monster heads came off like a helmet and had a robot head underneath
@DeltathRiylaan7 ай бұрын
Sorry for reviewing such an old post, but I just got this figure today and I definitely agree. I actually thought at first it did come off, because of the way the hinge looks.
@hahli1327 Жыл бұрын
my personal headcanon for why skullgrin is larger then his fellow pretenders is because he's pretending to be a member from a species of bone giants whereas bomb-burst and igaunus meanwhile are disguised as members from human-sized specieses
@PrimeVsPrime Жыл бұрын
Could be! Although if the rest are core class I think it'll be a shame
@Chimeragui Жыл бұрын
@@PrimeVsPrime it might also be so their vehicle modes would be in scale with each other. Deluxe class motorcycles modes tend to be far too large when placed next to cars, trucks and other large vehicles hence why the motorcycle character was made core class.
@ShadowRose224 Жыл бұрын
Thats actually very close to mine. I saw the smaller core class ones as the actual race with having cybertronian augmentations and skullgrin wearing the skull of a different alien race
@catandogclone7880 Жыл бұрын
If you dislike the scaling for pretenders so far wait until Bludgeon and Thunderwing come along cause those 2 will be voyager/leader class sizes definitely.
@WyattTFdude Жыл бұрын
Thunderwing is a deluxe
@catandogclone7880 Жыл бұрын
@@WyattTFdude if they die comic or Prime version of Thunderwing then it’ll be a Leader class figure.
@WyattTFdude Жыл бұрын
@@catandogclone7880 it’s the g1, look up Legacy Evolution
@catandogclone7880 Жыл бұрын
@@WyattTFdude he hasn’t been announced yet and I see no information relating him to being a deluxe size.
@PancadaPls Жыл бұрын
Personally, I don't think the scale is that big of a deal because of what they're doing with the pretenders. They're based on the original pretenders, but they've incorporated the pretender shells into the actual transformer, effectively creating brand new renditions for each of these characters. Since Hasbro's combining ideas and reinventing old characters, I think they have the leeway to play around with the size of them.
@silverback5730 Жыл бұрын
I agree, I'd honestly be disappointed if they didn't. Bludgeon would be a perfect voyager.
@Sgt.Simmoisabigdumbpoopoohead Жыл бұрын
@@silverback5730Well spoken, the prophecy has been realised.
@legalsaga4684 Жыл бұрын
That hinge at this wrist is a pretty nice addition as it allows for more interesting sword poses.
@PrimeVsPrime Жыл бұрын
I agree! It's very nice!
@Nil_25k Жыл бұрын
Personally, I actually really like his Tank mode. It's the kind of thing I immediately think of when I hear "cybertronian tank", and while it may definitely not be the best, j don't think its as bad as many people think. Same goes for the Studio Series Bumblebee Soundwave.
@IanFraser420 Жыл бұрын
I think the main problem isn’t the design so much as the execution. Like, his alt mode is just the robot mode condensed into a brick. If they just added some tread details on the front legs or found a way to hide the feet it would’ve looked a lot more cohesive.
@shovelchop81bikeralex52 Жыл бұрын
The hard white plastics they normally use, when turning yellow due to UV light from the sun, are actually having a chemical reaction making them far more brittle and prone to snapping. This is why they chose to use the softer plastic for those very thin extensions in the legs, my best guess anyway.
@TheLast_Knight Жыл бұрын
6:21 I don't know why, but when the horns are compressed like this, it kind of resembles the head of a Taun-Taun from Star Wars
@PrimeVsPrime Жыл бұрын
Yesss! I can see that too! Nice catch!
@troysmith7112 Жыл бұрын
It makes sense that, with the way Hasbro is doing these pretenders, they'd be different size classes.
@HelenaSan425 Жыл бұрын
This deluxe Skullgrin looks so great! i only have this tiny power of the primes Prime masters skullgrin
@PrimeVsPrime Жыл бұрын
Definitely better then the POTP version for sure!
@tyestancil2783 Жыл бұрын
I love that figure! I think the mask looks better on the Potp than this one. More robotic looking. I also wish he was core class as well (however I'm not against them uprising the rest, just want some consistency ), great fig.
@aClockworkTomato Жыл бұрын
I don't mind the altmode. It's passable and even a bit menacing. I also don't mind the lack of wheels since I leave my figures sitting on a shelf. He'll definitely be the only deluxe figure I'm picking up from wave 3, a farcry from wave 2 having picked up all four deluxes. Hopefully wave 4 turns out better. 🤞
@brianshipley8220 Жыл бұрын
I like to call his tank mode a Brank. (Brick + Tank)
@PrimeVsPrime Жыл бұрын
Lol literally haha!
@Beedo_Sookcool Жыл бұрын
Great review! Thank you! To be honest, I'm fine with the different size classes. The Pretenders themselves never made much sense to me, so having them in different sizes is no biggie. Plus, a tank being bigger than a motorcycle . . . well, that DOES makes some sense.
@seanagulan9481 Жыл бұрын
This figure is great, unfortunately has some flaws(swords are rubber). But nevertheless, this head sculpt is perfect for Halloween.
@RussellSmithOmegaW Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't get too hung up on the alt mode. It wasn't that great the first time round so it's not like they had a lot to work with. Think of it as an artillery piece rather than a rolling figure :)
@TrueKoalaKnight Жыл бұрын
The faces on the pelvis aren't the inner robot face, the G1 pretender shells had those same faces in the same spots. They're more like belt buckles.
@Enbeanie Жыл бұрын
All sword-wielding Transformers need a wrist bend like that! great review!
@henryalberts539 Жыл бұрын
Wish they'd leaned into both the length of the alt mode and his Marvel Hollywood star characterization and made him the world's first LimoTank: for shelling your enemies in style!
@greenlee7smythe7 ай бұрын
2:19 “on your pacific figure”? Lmao 😂 I’ve never had a pacific figure :P
@Angel_Love66804 ай бұрын
you should definitely get one, the Gipsy Danger figure is amazing :)
@trewerd Жыл бұрын
I'm with you on the vehicle mode. All that complex engineering is wasted on a lackluster tank mode. The soft plastic is an oddity. I can understand the horns, but we've gotten parts way smaller and pointier than those swords in hard plastic. The leg hinge being soft plastic as well might be because of how thin and long that piece is. They're probably worried kids would easily break it, but then again, if so, they shouldn't have designed it like that in the first place. As far as scale though, I think it's kinda fun to have pretenders in different size classes. G1 accuracy aside, since they're already doing their own thing by mashing up the shells with the vehicles, Iguanus being smaller than Skullgrin makes sense to my brain.
@TF_LoRdwashere Жыл бұрын
He looks awsome and so metal at the same time
@acethebeast9971 Жыл бұрын
You always smile when you hear primes badass intro.
@pessie83 Жыл бұрын
The transformation gimmick reminds me of that of the Mega Pretenders, as the Pretender shell also transforms into the alternate mode.
@Key_eg0r Жыл бұрын
Decepticon who transforms to brick with guns. Perfect😂
@PlatinumKnight-je3vy Жыл бұрын
I like the fact that Skullgrin got promoted to the deluxe figure assortment but still would’ve liked a core figure of him as well. The robot mode is for sure the strongest when tank mode is the weakest, more could’ve been done.
@90lancaster Жыл бұрын
It seems worth doing just like a the missing ones from POTP are still something i'd like too. I hope they do neglect doing more core ones though they look so much nicer as a set and i'd be happy to see them keep doing them as core class - at least the initial 6 - but if they want to be nuts and have a go at Grimlock, Bumblebee and Starscream - i'd be interested to see that too - though perhaps in a bigger size. If they keep making the small ones that would be nice to complement the core Dinobots we are getting too as Studio Series 86 Core class releases.
@90lancaster Жыл бұрын
@@HerohammerStudios Why would I want a core Class Skullgrin do you mean ? Well as I said to complete the set at the given size would be nice - - having one a load missing would be disappointing - just as it was with the missing pretender shells in POTP. As I stated before as many as possible Decepticons in the the Core class including The Pretenders would go nicely with the forthcoming Core Class Dinobots and also they can be used to populate your bases and playsets. I'm not saying that it has to be just the Pretenders - but since they started and since people responded positively to the 2 smaller ones more so that Skullgrin. Different sizes for different uses - I guess we all thought perhaps that Iguanus as it was implying they are small characters - maybe even like Rattrap size. ones. But with more main characters being made in that scale they can be seen either way now they can be seen as "little guys" like Rattrap, Exo-suit Spike or Wheelie. or they can be seen as a smaller representation of a normal sized Decepticon as with Megatron, Skywarp, Starscream, Soundwave, & Soundblaster and also Shockwave. I just happen to think they did something "fun" with Igunaus over all - even if tabbing him in can be a slight pain at times the idea is one I favour. But I also don't mind when the core class is used to represent a small character for use with bigger toys too.
@ianmaclellan7623 Жыл бұрын
The material they used for the headscupt was definitely used for the weapons and the joints in the legs. They probably did that to save cost.
@chrisvellner3922 Жыл бұрын
It would've been nice if they made the skull head a removable or "flip-back" mask with the robot head underneath.
@slicerneons3300 Жыл бұрын
Ole G1 Skullgrin had a lower Jaw sculpted and unpainted on his chestplate, with a tongue even. I don't mind class differences, considering the scale if the alt modes.
@AAX1975 Жыл бұрын
I want a head sculpt of the interior bot from the original Pretender to swap out with the skull. I love the body proportions and think it would look rad.
@Nagatem Жыл бұрын
Big mad that they made bombburst a core, I wanted all 3 decepticon Masterforce pretenders in the same scale
@Papai_Pai Жыл бұрын
I can't wait to have this guy standing next to his teeny tiny power of the primes Pretender
@SamanthaS92 Жыл бұрын
I’ll be honest, one thing I like about your reviews is even with bad figures, you’re usually less harsh and make sure to point out the good features even if there aren’t many. You’re asking if you’re being to harsh, but everyone else is completely trashing them! You’re the only one I can stand to watch because I’m not here to hear people complain endlessly.
@PrimeVsPrime Жыл бұрын
Ah thanks so much! Yeah I do try & be as fair as possible 🙏🏻
@Mothbean9 ай бұрын
I personally see the grey bits at front of the feet as forward treads, which I think gives the alt mode a lot more personality
@forgedtofight Жыл бұрын
love to see a harsh & critical primevsprime review 😈
@LimeeAnims Жыл бұрын
Can't wait to see this model with another head!
@uainjansun Жыл бұрын
Super cool the upgrade and very much a good combination of the G1 + generations fig! I do hope we ever get a original legacy jolt since skullgrin is jolt's brother as pretender
@HERITAGE12 Жыл бұрын
the lack of wheels is unforgivable IMO. He's NOT a hover tank, just a cybertroninan one and those threads are there for a reason. hell even the original g1 skullgrin had wheels and those inner shell bots were TERRIBLE . i'll STILL get him cause i like the IDW-esque bot/shell merging but ill be keeping him in bot mode forever. i agree too about the core class/ deluxe issue. but i reckon we WILL get deluxes of all of em in the end . just like whats going on with ratchet and ironhide in the studio series. TBH i wouldnt be surprised if core class iguanaus was just done to test the waters on demand for pretender figs.
@asagreenway8483 Жыл бұрын
Got Skullgrin today and love his bot mode but I won’t be bothering to transform him as the brick mode is just meh lol great review as always
@t.millings6979 Жыл бұрын
This figure had so much potential, Justified for sure :( .
@zuntata7860 Жыл бұрын
good point, they CAPABLE to make superb TLK Hot Rod with DELUXE PRICEPOINT, but this one seems like a throaway quotas figure
@b-retrogamer2324 Жыл бұрын
It’s perplexing for sure.
@matthewbosco9190 Жыл бұрын
Once again amazing work my friend you have done an amazing job I hate the flexible plastic but the figure looks amazing
@TyphonMar Жыл бұрын
Aside from the rubber swords I'm pretty excited for this guy. Scale has never bugged me so I don't care about that.
@Domdomdomdomdomdomdommmm Жыл бұрын
i feel like the size scale makes sense because skullgrin is a tank and iganus is a motor bike
@TFfangeek Жыл бұрын
Fantastic review PrimeVsPrime!!!! I hope that Skullgrin is a sign of how incredible future Pretenders figures will be. :D Keep on being amazing.
@kram67kram Жыл бұрын
Sword hands?!!!. He just became the coolest figure out.
@emeraldphoenix5868 Жыл бұрын
I think that this mold would work well for RID 2015 Blastwave.
@rorroryusoul Жыл бұрын
This cool video mister primevsprime
@PrimeVsPrime Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! :)
@Thedifficultytweak Жыл бұрын
I have so many hot takes on the skullgrin, 1: I kinda like his alt mode, I’m not super into it but I’ll take what I can get. 2: don’t care for the weapons. 3: I want a huge variety of scale classes for these guys, I don’t know what other pretenders there are but I want some like leader class men that have the same cool bad ass quality that skullgrin does.
@user-lynKx Жыл бұрын
the tail in the robot mode is so cute 🤣
@vivimusjenos8174 Жыл бұрын
I could do beautiful things to that skulls paint work..... then again my whole transformers collection makes me want to buy it all over again so I can paint one and keep one as is of each🥰
@paulpiusink69179 ай бұрын
Justified. I like it and to me it's a great representation of the original Skullgrin with a superb head mould and nice detailing all around. But I might be more inclined to rate it higher because I got this at a discount together with Crankcase. At full price, I would definitely expect more...
@OmicronX-1999 Жыл бұрын
The PVC bits in the leg assemblies are obviously because the piece needs to bend to allow the treads to actually reach the slots where they tab in in vehicle mode. Their position doesn't perfectly line up with where the legs are, so a solid plastic connecting piece wouldn't reach. It's kind of a lazy solution, they could have shaped the connecting pieces differently so they lined up properly, but I guess it works. I mean, I doubt fans are going to be rushing to buy this guy, seeing as how his altmode sucks and he's a really obscure character who's supposed to have a Pretender shell, so even older fans who know who he is won't be all that interested. EDIT: Actually, on closer inspection, the legs seem to line up properly after all and the PVC piece doesn't seem to be bending, so I don't know why hasbro decided to make that bit out of PVC. It's got nothing to do with yellowing though, there's plenty of white plastic on the figure anyway, and if they were that bothered they probably wouldn't cast so many figures in white plastic to begin with.
@bryanoliver311 Жыл бұрын
Its not lazy, its just bringing back the simplicity of the pretenders inner bots.
@alanfoxwolf7233 Жыл бұрын
Really cool looking Transformers figure
@SirGrimLockSmithVIII Жыл бұрын
I really wish they incorporated the robot mode head into the vehicle mode as a hood ornament. The only time visible head syndrome would have been cool and the designers missed the opportunity to capitalize on it.
@VorpalSlade Жыл бұрын
Ain't that just the story of Hasbro's life 😂 screwing up left right and centre then the one time it would look good they actively avoid it
@harrisblastaar5081 Жыл бұрын
I absolutely love this figure but even with a few probs I am not to put off at all. Also i think the reason why some figures are better than others in different wave is cuz they actually have a set budget for the wave and sometimes they allocate more of the budget to other figures so maybe they wanted to make sure hotrod turned out well
@caseymartinez1349 Жыл бұрын
I don’t think your being harsh. You are giving your honest opinion. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
@devimusmagnusjack4225 Жыл бұрын
Great review PvP! Gotta say that I agree with your somewhat harsh criticisms at the end. Hasbro was doing great in the WFC Cybertron trilogy but now it feels like they are losing a bit of their fire, which sucks since figures are getting more expensive at the same time. To save costs, I mostly stick to G1 characters from the cartoon now. Therefore in all of Legacy Wave 3 (Deluxe, Voyager and Leader), I plan on only getting Dead End and Pointblank. Hopefully things will improve in Legacy Year 2.
@thachocolategod Жыл бұрын
Very nice figure! I hope we get an Octopunch now, that's my favorite Pretender.
@TheOptinater Жыл бұрын
Good thing reviewers get these early so I know what figures not to buy. Hasbros quality hasn't been very good lately but at least I'm saving money hah
@TeryJones Жыл бұрын
Another thing I feel detracts from this design is the over sized head. They could have made it a removable mask for a regular size robot mode head, hell it could have been a mask that had its own separate weapon mode, Would have added a bit more play value for the price they're asking.
@katiepersons6575 Жыл бұрын
I sure am glad Hasbro is electing to raise prices at a rate of nearly four times that of inflation over the past 18 months or else the QC and quality of the figures might have had to go down.
@Jake-ti9sp Жыл бұрын
I can't unsee his nose is a heart
@TheTurnipKing Жыл бұрын
I kind of feel like the Pretenders needed to have the normal robot mode heads, as well as their Beast Wars Mutant style monster heads.
@WLH7 Жыл бұрын
Yes!
@PrimeVsPrime Жыл бұрын
Yessss sir!
@DarkScorch Жыл бұрын
There’s quite a few reasons why this figure is the way he is, and the designers spoke about these. As far as the vehicle mode goes and why it doesn’t have wheels on it, it’s the same thing with why Blurr doesn’t have wheels. I personally really like this figure, but I can definitely see why you don’t.
@PrimeVsPrime Жыл бұрын
Thanks for hearing me out man. I think with Blurr (at least the 86 ver) it was slightly more forgivable because he never had any wheels or treads to indicate that he could roll, but with this one it has treads and it just seems a bit pointless to me. What do you think of it?
@PlatinumKnight-je3vy Жыл бұрын
There really shouldn’t be any restraints in a figure’s design, especially when we’re paying more for them now. The tank mode could’ve been designed a little better.
@DarkScorch Жыл бұрын
@@PlatinumKnight-je3vy Just check out what the designers had to say.
@maximulsnarl5527 Жыл бұрын
I'd say, it depends on the transformation, if the size is bigger, it should have more steps, but if it's a bigger size and has very few steps then core.
@TrueKoalaKnight Жыл бұрын
If it were up to me (and I've said this many times on multiple platforms) I would abandoned the current design philosophy completely. The pretenders would be released in their own sub-line. All the core robots would be redesigned to be core class and would have 3 modes: inner robot, vehicle, and cube-like backpack mode. The pretender shells would be based on the RED series figures and feature a hollowed out torso that can fit the core class inner robot in backpack mode.
@oscarmay3364 Жыл бұрын
Tenth comment yay also I love skullgrin really cool video keep doing what you are doing
@PrimeVsPrime Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!
@alharron2145 Жыл бұрын
I loved the designs of the Pretender shells, & always wanted Hasbro to give them the "Super Pretender" treatment (ie actually transform). But the rubber plastic not only in the swords, but as part of the robot's actual structure is a serious deal breaker for me. Its one thing to have it as appendages like spikes or fins, but there's no way this sculpt will survive unwarped for long. A shame, as I love Skullgrin in particular & am dying for a new one after that Straxus remold from a few years back.
@andreyofdoom Жыл бұрын
Haha wow! The biggest surprise is the complexity of the transformation despite how much like a robot folded into a brick it looks at the end. I fell like they could have done better here
@samcorcoran470 Жыл бұрын
Everyone said we definitely were NOT getting a Dinobot combiner. I heard it 2 places. Never underestimate Hasbro's ability to beat a character to death. That being said, I ordered all 3 core class figures and the Alpha Trion Orion Paks 2 pack.!
@FastforwardxD Жыл бұрын
I haven't had the same candy rush that I had gotten from siege
@Readydaer Жыл бұрын
Brick or not, children will find a way to play with it. for older collectors however i do totally agree. at the very least he deserved wheels
@b-retrogamer2324 Жыл бұрын
Do adult collectors roll their figures around? I doubt it
@Deathbot8844 ай бұрын
I placed skull grin on water I just realized he looks like a naval warship
@Morage99 Жыл бұрын
so good I love this and your videos
@PrimeVsPrime Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!
@conorburke1999 Жыл бұрын
The original toy actually does have a jaw, but it’s unpainted and blends into the body so most people don’t even know it’s there.
@jorjyogurt8474 Жыл бұрын
I disagree with the scale part, tbh Id rather have their sizes be more diverse, it makes them look like their own little squad separated from the main decepticons, you dont see Swindle being the same size as Megatron
@water_bottle42337 ай бұрын
Bought him recently Really fun to pose Great figure Except the transformation its a pain in the ass
@shadowynne Жыл бұрын
I'm quietly excited about bomburst.
@aiden.c.strong9301 Жыл бұрын
Ayyyy he can shoot around corners
@umagnus77 Жыл бұрын
I really hope a 3rd party design a wicked cape with horns protruding from the shoulders
@bizzaro13 Жыл бұрын
is the Power of the Primes prime master Skullgrin compatible with this figure as far as being able to hold it as a weapon?
@Night5225 Жыл бұрын
I actually really like how he looks, but rubbery-plastic pieces for internals is a dealbreaker :/
@DBWalks2010 Жыл бұрын
This is how the pretenders should have been! I heard they coming out with Bombburst! Can’t wait to get them!!😃😃😃👍👍👍
@jolt5644 Жыл бұрын
Yes Skullgrin!!!!!!
@djscout6665 Жыл бұрын
When i saw the tusks my instant thought was tlk megatron
@PlasticGeek Жыл бұрын
G1 skullgrin does have a lower jaw, it’s sculpted into the body gray piece.
@vustvaleo8068 Жыл бұрын
Skullgrin would be right at home in the DOOM series, lol.
@CameronM1138 Жыл бұрын
I'm really glad they're not making all the Pretenders as Cores or Deluxes, Bludgeon and Thunderwing would be pointless at that size.
@jasonwolf3591 Жыл бұрын
The vinyl plastic is used for pieces with high risk of breaking and potential poking and stabbing hazards.
@jasonschneider7224 Жыл бұрын
Sadly, it seems to me a few things could have saved the alt-mode (and actually made the robot mode look better too). First and foremost: curves and angles - this design is so flat and square that it hurts both modes. That's actually one of the few things the G1 toy did right. Good curves angles and could have made the robot look more organic, and even the current alt mode look more armored and interesting. Next: Fold the legs to the side of the tank. Instead of such a long brick , you'd get something that has the proportions of an actual tank. Heh, meshing with the first point, if you curve the legs right you can get a natural flare to the back - also, that ends up putting that forward facing skull on the crotch front and center making it reminiscent of those skull tanks from Voltron - which would look pretty cool if you ask me. And of course, wheels - even a hovertank is more fun if it can actually seem to glide across the ground. It's a great idea with a cool transformation, but the aesthetics are poorly executed.
@williamthompson5504 Жыл бұрын
Bomb Burst is showing up at Target. Fun toy
@caseymartinez1349 Жыл бұрын
Good review 👍🏼👍🏼
@CattyMintgum Жыл бұрын
They sure love making badass looking robot modes but not putting much thought into the alt modes. This guy looks sick but shame he couldn't turn into something more cool to reflect.
@beanboi2310 ай бұрын
Skullgrin in the original comic with that scale.
@rykkerjones786 Жыл бұрын
I'll just swap the guns on the back with his hand held ones. Scale wise it's fine. I'd rather have them in different scales to mix em up. They're not a uniform team like the stunticons so scaling them differently is fine
@evanartist8060 Жыл бұрын
While I love the skull face sculpt, I can almost guarantee someone is gonna make a 3D model for the original toy’s robot head and make a print. Surprised that haven’t been done yet for Igaunus. Not hating on the figures, I just know others do.
@lunatick3495 Жыл бұрын
Tye only reason I would buy this is for more decepticons also fill crowd scenes and then for just the bot mode.