Translated: World of Warcraft Community Council Announcement

[@BDUF]

"Oh, so Square-Enix hired a band to play?" Nah bro, that's Masayoshi Soken, the music producer, on guitar, and Michael Christopher Koji Fox, the english localization lead, in the dapper bowler hat rapping. At the most recent FanFest they even brought out staff members to perform a freaking meme dance.

[@Konpekikaminari]

The damage done to my sides when they came with the role colour shirts still persists

[@VAFranky]

Remember when WoW had a pretty kickass band that played songs with lyrics based on the game? Nabisco’s Keebler Elves remember….or some shit like that.

[@conduit64]

@@VAFranky The Level XX Elite Tauren Chieftains.

[@ShitShitOhDear]

@@VAFranky i vaguely recall something about rogues doing it from some weird angle.

[@maallos334mi8]

@@VAFranky Pepperidge Farm remembers. That’s the meme

[@lissaliss6716]

This is huge for Blizzard, 100 players to a special forum! They got their whole remaining sub count in there.. Amazing.

[@popojagaimo]

Hahahahahaha.... savage.

[@ArmageddonEvil]

Ontop of it they will force those players through the shameful display of having their ideas nuked by the rest of the player base if it hurts the game. Since they didn't want to make the Anima Grind Infinite.

[@Offrayne]

Copium is some serious stuff

[@hayasenagatoro2275]

What's funny is...you can't even give feedback unless you have a sub. So in order to tell Blizzard why you are no longer playing their game you have to pay.

[@Luna-ii4mx]

Lmfao true

[@YohXoX]

Blizz: "We created Community council to hear your feedback" Everyone: "Theres plenty of feedback on Forums over last 10 years" Blizz: "Foru... what?"

[@Kelenae]

"I'm gonna pretend i didnt see that"

[@kbsskb788]

Oh they knew about the feedback, they even said so. They just didn't care because it's not what they wanted to do. So this will change nothing, they allready know what the players want. What they do with the feedback is what need change.

[@caffeinefuelled9186]

Blizzard: "I can't hear you over the sound of my own self praise"

[@the1bizkit]

@@misanthropiclusion The forums always had a section of toxicity, but it used to be a place that was more discussion than ranting and hate. But when you are ignored for over a decade and pretty much flat out told eventually "We dont care what you say, we're right, youre wrong", conversations are going to degrade in to the cesspool that they are now.

[@TheToasterbox]

We created the council to tell you what you think and so we can continue to ignore you and run the game into the ground. You know who would make a great council...? All the people who left WoW and went to Final Fantasy.

[@Denamic]

Yoshi is just too OP. I mean, he has three times as many ring slots than we do!

[@vaidenkelsier7757]

That's where he derives his power from.

[@popojagaimo]

Yoshi-P stares into the nightmare… and says I’ve already addressed your feedback, do you have any more? Please enjoy our game :)

[@popojagaimo]

This made me LOL so hard

[@Shiirow]

thats what happened to the infinity gems, he has one in each of his rings.

[@XenoVT]

The rumor that Yoshi-P is a primal gets confirmed more and more

[@pchery18]

Meanwhile at SE "Okay, so let's see what we gotta to do today: meet with with Q/A, band practice, cosplay rehearsal, server stability check and...did I miss anything?" "Soken's gotta do La-Hee at 4pm" "Alright. Meeting over"

[@mabdam3799]

This comment made me laugh instantly

[@SuisekiYaris]

WoW Devs: "Please come back" FFXIV Devs: "Plese go and enjoy other games and come back later"

[@popojagaimo]

And I can finally get around to finishing Persona 5!

[@DotHackerBlackWing]

@@popojagaimo you mean Persona 5 Royale and Persona Strikers right?

[@elgatochurro]

Whenever i pick up ff14 again i can't put it down... Even outside dungeons there's just something to experience amongst the player base themselves

[@randalica92]

Keeping players from burning out to get more subs in the long run, fair rationale business wise.

[@archevenault]

"Please don't come back just yet, you're going to crash our servers"

[@PanupatChong]

Yoshi P not only knew about Asmon's situation, he also knew Rich's progress in the game. That level of commitment to the community is bare none. The WoW council really emphasize the difference between the 2

[@mhicorivera7802]

well in japan rich streaming is popular

[@javelinmaster2]

What was Asmon's situation then?

[@mhicorivera7802]

@@javelinmaster2 his mother is hospitalize and now dead she may rest in peace

[@CrashB111]

@@mhicorivera7802 And it's not in the US...?

[@javelinmaster2]

@@mhicorivera7802 oh yeah he did talk about having a hard time.....

[@CrispBaker]

Reminder that the singer guy in the hat is the main English translator and even HE'S so beloved by the community that the Japanese players want him to help with their version And he already does, but they want more they just want to bask in his terrible puns His terrible, terrible puns

[@popojagaimo]

Koji-Fox is a legend.

[@CrispBaker]

@@popojagaimo every time a weird Treehouse localizer has a Twitter melty I just think "Koji does your job yet people love him, maybe think about that"

[@Tardisntimbits]

I adore Koji so much, and his puns. BRING ON THE PUNS!

[@Narshe1412]

@@CrispBaker what is a treehouse localiser?

[@InchonDM]

I mean, if there's one thing I know about the Japanese language, it's that it's the only language on the face of the earth that can compete with English in just how much it _loves puns._

[@popojagaimo]

I feel like this is Blizzard's "I promise I've changed" moment.

[@solblackguy]

Nah, this is like your abusive ex telling you to come pick up some boxes you left behind when you told them they could just throw the shit away

[@melissas4874]

It's like their 3rd one in 2 or 3 years! I think even before SL was released they were telling Preach etc that they learned their lesson in BFA.

[@blindbylight]

as long as that robot ion is there it will remain a pile of shit

[@Harbinger421]

Sadam in the south park movie. "I can change".

[@HighQualityLeftover]

Oh they did? then why is warcraft 3 still a used cumrag somewhere in the corner of their room. and soon enough when wow stops prducing money, they will toss it there too. 0 love, all business and greed. nah thanks. bye.

[@TDBTylerable]

WoW Devs: "Please come back, we've changed..." FFXIV Devs: Having an absolute blast and genuinely enjoying their own game!

[@dra6o0n]

Fun fact, if you stream yourself playing your own game you developed and having fun, chances are other people would actually want to join in.

[@Syrzan86]

@@dra6o0n Deep Rock Galactic Devs do the same, mostly every week they stream while answering the same questions over and over again that is in the chat. They have a mostly toxic free community too. (maybe also due to the fact that its a co-op game and no pvp)

[@Dark-ux4bi]

@@Syrzan86 love deep rock, its such a fun spin on the left for dead style formula

[@WeiWei.88]

FF14 Devs: Farm allegan tomestones and play the game as players themselves as well. WoW Devs: "Repeat after me, thorgast and RNG loot is FUN, say it!"

[@popojagaimo]

It's sad because I was really looking forward to running Torghast for fun and cosmetic rewards... and instead they made it all about player power... ugh.

[@Neurogenesis1251]

To be fair bozja castrum litore is the amount of rng WoW has but still better

[@zenspeed404]

@@Neurogenesis1251 I absolutely despised Bozja until someone explained the supplies system to me, and now I really can't get enough of it.

[@Neurogenesis1251]

@@zenspeed404 I dont hate bozja, I hate how rare and rng the field note drop rates are

[@diode_wow]

"MeAnInGfUl ChOiCe"

[@Syfrid]

preach to Ion preach: whats with that huge dmg difference with small gear score difference is there a flaw in there? Ion: frankly its a skill ishue (no forther comments) Mr Happy to Yoshi P Happy: soo monk has some real problems do you plan to change it? Yshi P: "litterally sits there with him and brainstorms with Mr Happy about a solution"

[@dacbiet]

That feeling when YoshiP never needed this “community council” lul

[@popojagaimo]

The whole of the FFXIV is Yoshi-P's Community Council.

[@dacbiet]

@@popojagaimo yes I just find it really funny Blizzard really have to announce that. Like what are the regular forums for then? I see it as a PR stunt full of lies trying to bring back players for fake promises

[@LontEnCaras]

@@dacbiet indeed. they already have forums and a suggetions topic in it. Or at least had, I don't know if they still have it, since I haven't looked since 2019. If they couldn't listen to players before, why should we expect this "council" to be any different? They only had to watch their own content creators to know what players didn't like or liked, because they somehow knew without a council or forums.

[@Shiirow]

@@dacbiet a PR stunt and a scapegoat when things go wrong. if shit hits the fan, the hatred will be split between the developers and the "community council". thats why its open for everyone, so they can have open targets to throw under the bus. its like a raid mechanic, the more people to soak the hatred, the less damage they take individually.

[@mattpiroddi6198]

Don't need a community council if you're a part of the community yourself

[@Poppenheimer69]

Seeing WoW devs warms my heart. I feel happy, knowing that all these corporate prudes and sex offenders have to suffer to please some neckbeards that they absolutely despise.

[@Lamren]

This is like the 5th or 6th council they've done, it's nothing new and they still don't give a flying fuck. They have their heads way up their asses, there's no reaching them.

[@TheEmperorHyperion]

Zurvan put it best: *Suffer in endless torment!*

[@lc9245]

Imagine condoning sexual harassment because they want to please their corporate master and now acting all righteous.

[@Section.9]

They were caught with their pants down. Talk about a self-own. The “dream of working at Blizzard” just doesn’t exist anymore. Everyone who created that magic is gone. Buying into Blizzard today would be like buying a counterfeit product. It’s a fake, and we all know it.

[@striker5350]

The subs reaaly made this video for me. “We are trying something desperate and we are calling it unpaid labour.” Golden.

[@Lucyfer1102]

So for each minute of Blizzard's lies I get 1 minute of FFXIV's Devs epicness? Fair trade

[@popojagaimo]

There's a lot of epicness out there if you can handle it.

[@Lucyfer1102]

@@popojagaimo I'm getting overdose

[@popojagaimo]

@@Lucyfer1102 Insert picture of Yoshi'p Sampo grinning here.

[@cocodojo]

More Primals please!

[@NoelNolNull]

If they played the game, they wouldn't need feedback from the community as much (for the second time)

[@Hemlocker]

They could get all the feedback in the world and it wouldn't matter because they won't actually listen to any of it. Anyone who thinks otherwise at this point has copium for blood. Also it's sad to say but because of how many people are abandoning ship, there might not even be enough good feedback left. A lot of the people still playing WoW are either on a heavy regular dose of copium or are stuck on classic. If you ask either of those for feedback, it's probably gonna be nonexistent or bad. Basically it's too late for WoW. As Josh Strife Hays said, it needs to be taken into the shed and shot.

[@OWnIshiiTrolling]

If they played the game themselves, they would just continue living in their deluded world where farming paragon levels and nested RNG loot is "fun". Then they would do their m+3 weekly, take 3 hours to do it, and go back to harassing their employees, who presumably can't work form home because they live in a car in front of their office, and the wifi doesn't reach that far. I think the wow devs are just actually idiots. They genuinely believe that the entire playerbase is wrong, and that they are the only ones who understand why wow is secretly really good and fun. They even went out of their way to tell everyone how conduit energy was essential to the game, and they only removed it because players don't understand it.

[@BAMFZone95]

I love the "we are desperate, and we are calling it unpaid labor." I watched all 4 videos that youve made so far. I feel like the same angry ex. Ive subscribed and im hoping for more memes :)

[@popojagaimo]

Thanks so much! I’ve really enjoyed making them! More are on the way!

[@werecaster]

I mean......the PTR is the same!

[@atraxian5881]

Blizzard to the community: "I'm right, you are wrong, shut up and bend over" Square to the community: "Thank you for your support, let's have a talk about the game"

[@popojagaimo]

More so Creative Business Unit III… remember Square Enix also produced Marvel’s Avengers (yikes)

[@macjakeg]

@@popojagaimo Ehh, it was Crystal Dynamics in most part, not S-E. But I do agree with the argument, other than XIV, S-E doesn't have a lot of good stuff in their portfolio lately

[@ArmageddonEvil]

Blizzard = Gamestop

[@Dream146]

@@popojagaimo there's definitely issues with marvel avengers but it is actually a pretty competent game if you just play it as a single player story campaign and ignore all the live service BS, I enjoyed it at least.

[@TheRandomMontages]

@@macjakeg The thing w/ Square Enix is that Yoshi-P is a legend in the company. Yoshi is why FF14 exists and thrives. He single handedly came in and saved this game. And the results are now revealing themselves.

[@freakindamnshiki]

this corporate speech was literally the exact same as the one they used for Shadowlands, it is mind boggling xD

[@diego_chang9580]

The worst part is that when you look at their eyes during the whole unpaid labor announcement you can tell they are reading those 10 seconds lines they got lmao

[@ThoA45]

When i saw that corporate speech bullshit i couldn't believe my eyes and ears. That was so robotic and unemotional, wtf....

[@Rapfan965]

First thing thats truck me was the false smile on the blonde girl face. You can tell its fake by the fact her eyes was t "smiling" along the way. Easiest indicator of faking a smile is only your mouth smile where in genuine smile your whole face change

[@Wuzy93]

Meanwhile they're completely ignoring a thread in the ptr section regarding pvp gearing with over 1k replies and 20k views. They see the feedback, they know what players want but they do not give a **** and design the game around rng, fomo nonsense and boosting/p2w instead. It would be the best for the MMO genre if this trash game would finally die, their game "philosophy" is a disease for an entertainment product.

[@Carsu12]

Truest true ever trued

[@barbademojon]

AMEN

[@yellowbeard1]

I want FF14 to have good competition. WoW has not been good for a a while now

[@echoechoecho7142]

Blizzard employees sit on Twitter putting down the fans/players and hating on us. Ion lies, speaks in riddles and false hopes, giving us nothing but the "Ion Tuesday vault of Disappointment". Meanwhile Yoshi P asking Asmon how his sick mom is doing and giving us an amazing magical game.

[@Koibito247]

Yoshi P’s apology and hoping he can rebuild trust after the delay Nah bro, even this, I trust.

[@empacotador]

The Yoshi P. smug face... WHAT A MAN!

[@popojagaimo]

Yoshi-P is my hero.

[@dacbiet]

YoshiP is the gigachad

[@mr.mystere4999]

I gotta make up a new term now, one that which is beyond "Gigachad". I hereby dub Yoshi-P, the "Terachad".

[@Hemlocker]

@@mr.mystere4999 Zeta-Chad

[@randalica92]

@@mr.mystere4999 ain't no tank LB3 strong enough.

[@Edge2177]

Saddam Hussain in the South Park Movie perfectly encapsulates Blizzard's vibe.

[@SmoknAce]

Omfg i was thinking the same xD

[@GeTakeo]

"I can change i can change" :D

[@magnuscarlsson9969]

Well I'll sing along "What if you(Blizz) remain a sandy little butthole?"

[@Darksaviour]

Yoshi-P and team: We love our community and wouldn’t being anything without them Ion and team: We love our communities hard earned cash

[@zinc_trioxide]

I know that, deep in their heart they don't wanna play their own game because its not fun

[@strife3044]

The funniest part is they've already had this multiple times. WoW had private forums for community leaders and whatnot already. The problem has never been receiving the feedback, it's them being completely CONVINCED that any feedback that opposes what they feel the direction of the game needs to be, is wrong and should be blatantly ignored.

[@popojagaimo]

"You think you do, but you don't" - J. Allen Brack regarding classic-style serves... 6 years later... WoW Classic launches.

[@ArmageddonEvil]

@@popojagaimo Classic World of Warcraft SAVED Retail from entirely collapsing. lol Edit: That means the only reason why they released Classic WoW was that they were PANICKING!

[@moonrabbit2724]

I was gonna say, they had that Discord server for private influencers and basically they all turned on the people they handpicked and began antagonizing them.

[@AeonzAgaze]

It scares me that I think most of 14's success hinges on yoshi leading the development. I hope he's with us to the day 14s servers shutdown whenever that happens.

[@thelona108]

Ffxi servers are still going and still releasing content, so not any time soon most likely.

[@AeonzAgaze]

@@thelona108 well yeah 11 lasted this long , I imagine 14 will last atleast in name (im hoping for a re-release with a new engine like pso2) until like 2025-2030.

[@thelona108]

@@AeonzAgaze most likely, they may slow down development at some point, maybe end new content. But even EQ1 servers are still going, they won't take the game down for many years most likely

[@Ashtari]

He’s actually forcing himself to eat vegetables so he can stay healthy. That way he doesn’t have to stop developing FFXIV.

[@eternalwind08]

Yoshi-P has said that 14 is his life's work and he's also part of the SE Board of Directors now so there won't be any "executive meddling" because he is part of the executive level now. I'm pretty sure we're safe barring any health issues.

[@imKirushka]

lmaooo they didn't even bother to commit their 2-3 lines to memory.. literally reading off their notepads

[@Sammysnows]

WoW literally took like entire game community council calling the player based for their feedbacks ??? while in FF14 YoshiP : let me handle all of them, also Bring me my best translator too. the player : all hail Yoshi-P

[@sleepysera]

It is quite fun to see how hard it becomes to change people's perceptions again once they have changed. Like, now even when the XIV devs "fuck up" (Endwalker delay), no one even bats an eye because they are regarded in a positive light and trusted to have done their utmost to make it work and it just didn't; while even if Blizzard is trying to play nice now, their attempts are viewed through a cynical lens because they lost that trust of the playerbase.

[@NaohMkS]

Trust is a very hard thing to regain

[@annekekramer3835]

@@NaohMkS in Dutch we have a saying, roughly translated: "A good name comes on foot, and goes by horse". The WoW Devs have a lot of footwork to do....

[@werecaster]

We gave them chances, so many and they just keept screwing it up, when ff 14 asked for a chance, they went above and beyond.

[@OWnIshiiTrolling]

To be fair, the wow devs put in A LOT of work to earn their reputation. No other company would ever go that far to screw with their consumers. Or do they call us units? I legitimately forgot.

[@TurntBucket]

once bitten, twice shy... its a saying for a reason. someone steals from you. you gonna trust them now? no they need to prove they are worth trusting now.

[@brianbaratheon]

You can hear the hatred in their voices. They REALLY don't want to even PRETEND to take suggestions.

[@popojagaimo]

I would say though that Tina did seem very genuine to me... plus the arts team still does a great job.

[@Shiirow]

the facade didnt last long, the interview people see after this little stunt pretty much PR/Lawyer speak that they will take the suggestions but will only take to heart that which reaffirms their stance. so in the end, theyve learned nothing. I foresee another WoW Exodus in 10.0.

[@neriaksoul]

this is just bang! slap! ^^ Blizzard: Let's get a handfull of People and let them all read the same script FF14: Party - Let's get the guy blizz claims is an"as. ho..." and let him interview the boss for 1+h

[@sergiosuarez3120]

They were all reading a script HAHAHAH. Nicely summarized.

[@popojagaimo]

Thank you friend!

[@OWnIshiiTrolling]

Well, you can't blame them for doing a PR video with a script. Of course they script it. What you can blame them for is the awful script, the blatant lies, and the complete disconnect from reality.

[@sergiosuarez3120]

@@OWnIshiiTrolling If you are passionate about something you don't need a script to talk about it. How about just talking like a fucking human being.

[@GrassSaint33]

@@sergiosuarez3120 Any sort of press release for any company is scripted. thats just how it works.

[@OWnIshiiTrolling]

@@sergiosuarez3120 This is a pr stunt. That is always scripted, for any company, because they don't want to take any chances. Also, they likely had everyone read the entire script and then edited it together. That requires everyone to say the same thing. You also script things that you are passionate about. A passionate writer won't go with his first draft, but he'll rework it over and over to improve it.

[@vincerivera9325]

it feels creepy watching this they all looked like drones it didn't feel their responses are natural

[@BaithNa]

That's because they're a bunch of people reading from a script but they dont have any acting skills, charisma and they aren't passionate about what they're saying.

[@absolent.7485]

I finally find music from 2 nd part of the video !!! alphascape v3.0 theme

[@wackyzap1304]

Those WoW devs at the beginning sound so fake it's scary. That first lady's staring into my soul.

[@randalica92]

Environmental design lady is alright, she can keep doing what she's doing as it's one of the last positive things about wow.

[@nicnqc7929]

Lol seeing their eyes dot about reading a script..hahahah

[@niqourano3073]

Dear lord... its subtle but you can definitely see that their reading a script from their monitors. I feel livid lol

[@J-manli]

@@niqourano3073 Tbf, reading off a script is not inherently a bad thing, especially when the dev on the stage are new or uncomfortable to public speaking. Heck, Yoshi-P visibly uses a script or outline during the live letters. But what is a joke is that this particular script reeks of "Corporate Correctness," (ie not saying anything offensive, while staying vague and detached to prevent legal liabilities).

[@katnerd-Glen]

@@J-manli Also, I'd imagine, corporate won't let them do an announcement like this at this time without having a written script that can be reviewed by legal. Remember, Yoshi-P isn't really in position directly analogous to Ion. Yoshida saved his entire company from bankruptcy, forged the most successful Final Fantasy game in history, and is a member of the board of directors for Square Enix. He's in a position where he can pretty much say whatever he wants without review. Ion isn't, not even remotely. That said, the WoW people don't believe a word they're saying I'd imagine. Except maybe the artist. The rest of them wish the payers would shut up, open their wallets and let the Blizzard staff do what they think you're just not smart enough to enjoy. Condescending pricks the lot of them. Except that artist, she seemed nice.

[@chrisanderson7820]

@@katnerd-Glen She might seem nice but if she's on the art team she has back and thigh muscles like Conan the Barbarian, given the amount of carrying the WoW art team have done over the years for the rest of the clowns.

[@BaithNa]

@@J-manli YoshiP doesn't use a script but they do have a schedule andnits regularly thrown out. The last like letter was supposed to be 4 hours but it went for 7 hours. And they weren't speaking publicly, they were recording messages from their homes. Not much pressure there.

[@jbkfree]

That counsel is to draw attention of users to the member of the counsel. This is a diversion tactic of Blizzard to disorganize and divide the people in smaller pieces. They were notified of their mistakes everytime when ptr was out and when the forum was burning. They should stand up and answer to users' voices and show sincere apologies. Seeing those smiles just makes me tempt to punch the monitor

[@popojagaimo]

Agreed. Provide an open and heartfelt apology. Acknowledge that you messed up bad for years so that we can all move forward. That's what happened with 1.0 and ARR. Until that happens these corporatized statements will just continue to not resonate. I hope that they will see that and get the ship back on track.

[@bagusadhywicaksono250]

@@popojagaimo Completely agree with you're points, these are just empty platitudes. Which is shocking to me that even now at this state with all the shit that has happened, still no apology. Acknowledging mistakes is the first step towards addressing them. The fact that they still haven't realized/accepted this, means that they'll just going to repeat it over and over again.

[@Azmariachan]

As a ex wow player... and neww ffxiv player, i really believe in Yoshida san its obvious that he loves his game and enjoys what he do, and he's concerned about the people who plays his game, he simply wants the ffxiv gamers feel the same as he feels when he creates and plays his game. In the other hand the people of blizzard want to gain your trust again bu reading a text on their screens with a false emotion, with a grin in their faces, giving superficial promises to their players.... I'll be not going back to World of warcraft again. I trust in the game that MR. Yoshida is creating!

[@void9938]

Having had to be a fake fuck for my customer care center job to cover for the shitty company's inability to improve operations, this has the same energy

[@beerasaurus]

Ion created a community council so other people can ignore requests for him.

[@anacreon212]

that yoshi-p thing still kills me because so many people in the wow communty felt that about devs playing their own game.

[@zenspeed404]

The thing that kills me is that YOSHI-P feels that some frustration as well: he was not only an avid WOW player, but he made his development team play it as well to open their eyes to how MMOs have been evolving while they were stuck in their FFXI bubble. Blizzard was his model for success for years, and I'm pretty sure it frustrates him to see them stagnate like this.

[@dkoykoala1488]

"and we are calling it unpaid labor" ooff like, they had this for free for years lol

[@azazamat]

Can someone please share the sauce for the music for FF part of the clip? Tried looking for it, but I only know Masayoshi Soken and can't find that song :(

[@crystalgoddess4085]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/raDWfot7jNGKnac Here it is, the song is eScape.

[@sabertooth5979]

Why does it look like they're reading off a script?

[@popojagaimo]

Because they are?

[@katnerd-Glen]

Because everything publicly said by a Blizzard/Activision employee probably has to be reviewed and approved by legal right now.

[@CrashB111]

@@katnerd-Glen Except Twitter apparently. Cause you have devs basically picking fights with people on it.

[@SpudCommando]

at 0:08 you can see the guys eyes moving as he's reading.

[@lllFeanorlll]

We get a lot of feedback from players and it's great

[@Delicashilous]

1:18 - 1:48 One of the most iconic Monments in Gaming History.

[@XthTerrorOfDeath]

Yeah, YoshiP is one of the highest parsing BLM players in the game (And BLM is widely considered the hardest DPS class to play)

[@Tardisntimbits]

My BLM hero

[@StayVCA98]

I feel that Final Fantasy rock concert thing going on reminds me of WC3 developers back then particularly that singing Arthas on the ending cinematic, those were the days... But it ain't anymore...

[@jordandelara6455]

Can i asked what theme is playing on ff14 side?

[@popojagaimo]

A song called “Scions and Sinners” by the band The Primals, which consists of devs Soken and Christopher Koji-Fox. Check them out on KZbin or Spotify they have a lot of great stuff!

[@jordandelara6455]

@@popojagaimo thank you so much. really like that song

[@crystalgoddess4085]

The song is actually called eScape, and was used during the Omega raids in the Stormblood expansion. Scions and Sinners was just the name of the recent album they released.

[@waiting_angel]

Well, one is reading from a script they were given. The other uses genuine thoughts.

[@LobsterFusion]

I love how beet red Rich’s face gets. Lol

[@Xarlithion]

Sober up and gain euphoria while feeling appreciated or stay strung out and tell yourself "this time will be different." For the 17th time in 5 years... what a tough choice.

[@connor654]

Here is the full wow dev translation " Corporate Made me read this in a positive and upbeat tone - I really dont want to listen to you but i have to - you are mean - which sucks - what we really want is for you to agree with us so we can tell you what you will like - it is too hard to listen to you - we are trying something desperate and we are calling it unpaid labor - we are going to invite all the shills to work for us - all you mean people will see how wrong you are - so please come work for us for free - lets all say thank you and pretend we dont hate you. "

[@JubeiSenpai]

The twinning theme should be Yoshi P theme song lol that man is a legend

[@shinra6913]

blizzard are pretty much singing the "i can change" song from the south park movie XD

[@sheltonwilliamson711]

The awesome thing about this is that that KickA band IS the music and language development team.

[@longwildernesswalks]

The difference is respect... blizzard has none for their community because any disagreement is a personal attack on them and they cannot ever be guilty of anything. On the flip side, S.E. seems to actively seek answers, ask questions, justify their decisions, and stand behind their commitments. All that translates into a genuine feeling that they respect our input as consumers of their product. Could you imagine a company like Coke completely changing the composition of their drinks and then running that brand into the ground while displaying complete disregard for their consumers' feedback? Me either. So why do you continue to reward Blizzard for making horrific decisions with your money? Copium is strong sh!t...

[@gostreiver8036]

It’s not even a matter of player feedback Preach was LIVID In his reaction video to the council because he’s like. You idiots I’ve been giving you the feedback for free for years ! Who else do you need feedback from but the WoW die hard Andy’s who’s whole life revolves around the game being played almost 24/7??

[@HladniSjeverniVjetar]

Haha, fool me once ( WOD)....fool me twice (Shadowlands) .....third time will not happen... deleted everything blizzard related... New World is fucking amazing.

[@popojagaimo]

Glad you’re enjoying New World! I didn’t care for it much, but I’m glad that there’s a lot of people out there who do like it.

[@isabelleda.4237]

Ion's severed fish head is part of my nightmares now.

[@HouseOfAlastrian]

I remember when the initial release of FFXIV was an unmitigated disaster... when they put out a terrible game that was almost completely unplayable... when they put Yoshi-P in charge of turning that ship around... he had his team play World of Warcraft to help learn how to make a good MMO. Now the tables have turned and I would urge the Blizzard devs to actually play FFXIV as it is now to learn how to make a good MMO.

[@Cheerfuljochan]

Yea what makes it even better is that Yoshi is a WoW fan himself, he has stated with the recent success and downfall of WoW in an interview that he is not happy that WoW is failing. He would want both games to be good because he understands that competition is only good for the entire industry.

[@orly2663]

add more fruit into wow, fruit = fiber

[@popojagaimo]

Yummy fruit.

[@GeTakeo]

More fiber = more shit content

[@Cooil1]

That's the next playable race: Celery

[@sanzein]

They are reading a script. This doesn't give them points to their credibility

[@vaidenkelsier7757]

I mean, it IS an ad, so it's going to be scripted. Some PR firm probably thought it looked more down to earth, which it would if it wasn't released in the context of everything we know now, plus the history of such private feedback avenues that they've created in the past. If this were another company, I doubt anyone would be complaining about the scripted nature of this ad, other than "it seems hokey".

[@gimpxors3]

​@@vaidenkelsier7757 Uhh definitely would be complaining, it's obviously souless and them going through the motions rather than actually looking to do something better. And given that this is Blizzard, everyone already knows that this won't lead to any improvements.

[@DeathAdder71]

This is the 4th video I like out of the 4 I saw here ... Subbed! ... Keep it up man 😎

[@popojagaimo]

Thanks so much friend!

[@Venerable_Banana]

WOW COPIUM COUNCIL

[@Lasyusha-Chan]

FFXIV devs delayed the game and gave out an apology because they thought the game would be done this month. Blizzard: release it even if its broken. And call that haters toxic

[@puppetface9975]

i want to beat you with a club for those subtitles being a word at a time. but i do love YoshiP and the rest of the video.

[@Kyrandis]

I see blizzard's hubris hasn't caved in on their heads yet but cool, can't wait until the layoffs happen to tone-deaf devs and then they start wondering why it's happening when a dev opposite side of the world of a diff game never sleeps and plays his own game and in tune with their community and their terminology as well as a majority of their game's concerns and social atmosphere.

[@katshuma]

"and we are calling it unpaid labor" Pretty much sums it up.

[@OWnIshiiTrolling]

It's not entirely accurate, though. You need to pay a sub fee to alpha test their game and get into that council, so you get paid negative money for your labor.

[@jimi_jams]

The Community Council announcement immediately made me think of Saddam Hussein's "I can change" song from South Park.

[@joezy15k45]

Imagine reading a form about store-bought mounts then adding a cat… Ship has sailed

[@saladinboss2507]

OMG!!! I love how this video pivots to Soken and The Primals! I almost fell out of my chair!

[@gl3110]

To give blizz more credit than they're due... imagine having to deal with WoW fans. You couldn't pay me enough.

[@jilliablight5554]

chicken tenders, theyre ready to fry

[@SeldimSeen1]

Yoshi blows them all out of the water.

[@GoddamnBatman1]

They even pulled a Meanwhile...

[@Cooil1]

Ion's "thank you" seems so dishonest...

[@CValleWEM]

The first minute of this video is gold.

[@markup6394]

The "smallprint" was in parts too fast but hell, was is accurate XD

[@popojagaimo]

Agreed. I'm going to try something different next time. Thank you for watching!

[@undream7897]

Like can we also talk about squares dedication to it specifically Soken the dude composed a good amount of shadowbringers soundtrack from a hospital room while battling cancer and told nobody about it to not demoralize or break their stride

[@HazardSJ]

Remaining WoW players seem like abused spouses, they just go back, because they think Blizzard has changed, not knowing that the Blizzard they knew was just a photoshopped image of them with a fake bio. The ones that left, are the players who realise that they're in an abusive relationship and left.

[@mickbotcast]

Community Council is just "I no longer understand what pa.. player want, I will leave it to them to speak for us in a council kind of manner"

[@AzerothLatinoamerica]

"I was playing on my shaman the other day"

[@raymondron8291]

Ultra Based Yoshi P

[@marydanielle7183]

It's hilarious that the community council video its clear that they're just reading text off the screen where as in ffxiv Yoshi P and everyone one its all organic and real.

[@mingaliteminimoon]

Does anyone know where I could listen to this exact version of 'a long fall'? please I am begging I need to hear it in full 😩

[@YamadaJisho]

Videos like this make me glad I dropped WoW and started playing FF14.

[@johncardboard4624]

Robots talking about lofty sounding ideas

[@jnels8870]

I wonder if the WoW devs even play their game beyond the work setting?

[@Max-vu8il]

Конечно нет, они уже давно забыли, что такое играть в свою игру...

[@mabdam3799]

To sell your product, know your product

[@madjackgamingandfitness498]

I thought about this yesterday too. This is unpaid labor, they laid off quality and community staff over the years and closed offices. It's like how microsoft stopped paying for windows testers and how the customer became the bug testers.

[@Arylwren1]

When yoshi-p made the announcement of end walker's pushed back release date and the reason for it, my considerable respect for him increased immensely

[@NotTheWheel]

I agree the community council thing was tone deaf... but we should listen to YoshiP and not be so US vs THEM ya know? The better everyones games are the more fun for everybody. It took us a long time to win people over to play FF but we did that with love and enthusiasm. I want all games in the MMO space to prosper because we can have a lot more fun that way. So we should be rooting for them to do better! I've known people who have fallen out of love with FF for example, Gripes I don't share personally but came from an honest place people who played a lot longer than I have or put more hours in have done all there is to do in game, so I do take what they say with some silver lining that FF is not without its flaws - Even our game has room to improve. So just relax and have fun.

[@popojagaimo]

Good points. I absolutely do want them to do better and be successful, but I can't help having a little fun here and there. WoW meant a lot to me, it provided me with fantastic memories and lasting friendships, and I want it and all other MMOs to prosper. It breaks my heart that I've fallen out of love with WoW and Blizzard so much, but it's been a cathartic process for me to create some comedy out of something that otherwise really makes me sad.

[@NotTheWheel]

​@@popojagaimo ​It's alright I understand, and it can be difficult to lower our defenses when we have been hurt so much. I would not deny you your avenue of expression as it is just as valuable as any other. Nor judge you for it. Your memories are not for naught.

[@Shiirow]

I dont think a little us v. them is bad, maybe it will light a fire under their ass and get them to improve. it seems at the moment they are still deluded that their current game plan will net a W, when its an obvious L.

[@NotTheWheel]

@@Shiirow I say it more so in favor of the players who still have hope in their game. It took FF to die for it to be reborn, but the reason we made it this far is because of the fans who supported it in it's darkest hour. WoW is a bit different it had its success, it doesn't yet understand the meaning it is to lose it. We can only hope for a better future.

[@Hemlocker]

I agree in general, but by now Blizzard has proven themselves so many times to be incompetent, arrogant and disrespectful towards their playerbase that I don't think they should be given another chance unless serious changes happen very quickly (Ion getting fired would be just one necessary part of that). There's no evidence that trying to help WoW get better will work, and there IS evidence that such attempts will be ignored at best. The abusive relationship analogy really does work. If someone has been abusive to their partner over and over again, despite having the problems explained to them every time and them claiming they'll change, then at some point they no longer deserve the effort.

[@StalwartSpaghetti]

I am glad you are documenting these events. People need to see how bad it truly has gotten in the MMORPG industry.

[@Lionheardt81]

It doesn't take much to realize these guys were reading off a script that HR and higher-ups made for them and made the council to pass the blame on players the moment things don't go the way they want it. Blizzard does not care about its players.

[@popojagaimo]

Maybe they do, but they sure have a funny way of showing it

[@redcloud16]

Time to run The Burn (Savage)

[@Defileros]

Does someone know where the concert comes from and which track they were playing

[@ashmcnamara8914]

What Ost is Soken singing at the start?

[@popojagaimo]

Scions and Sinners by his band The Primals - kzbin.info/www/bejne/bGPIq4t7g7Sof6M

[@absolent.7485]

eScape - The primals

[@musicislife1240]

What is the name of the meme song for the blizzard part?