Is It Acceptable To Date Your Fans??

[@PharaohDom]

Something I learned in my 20s and was more than solidified in my 30s is that when someone is interested in you, they will be interested in YOU. If you have to be someone else to get or keep their interest, it's doomed from the gate. Be you from the start and save both y'all some time.

[@ryoukaip]

so true so true

[@dillieillie]

Solid advice ❤

[@spiderdude2099]

There would have to be a few caveats: 1. You aren’t the ONLY creator they watch, like, they aren’t obsessed with you exclusively 2. They are OF LEGAL AGE 3. They aren’t pressured into doing things they normally wouldn’t just to please you 4. They are preferably minimally on social media 5. They aren’t using your relationship for clout 6. They care about you as a person, not just as an online personality 7. They understand how to interact and NOT interact with people online if the relationship gets discussed

[@followerofmanus1]

I like how you said few, which turned into several. Safest bet is just to not fall into that situation.

[@spiderdude2099]

@@followerofmanus1 Bro, chill. It’s seven things. And they aren’t even necessarily that hard for a person to check off all of them.

[@poppysmoria6268]

But how would they know that on the first date tho, and to explain a few on these to that person is just kinda awkward

[@spiderdude2099]

@@poppysmoria6268 they wouldn’t at least on the first date, but you’d definitely want to ascertain them very quickly.

[@aykan5621]

@@spiderdude2099 they are hard

[@parsath_2584]

It depends. As someone who worked with a lot of notable celebrities,including people I looked up to. I've been conditioned not to idealise people or assume I know them. But I also understand not everyone is like me and there's definitely a level where people are in a parasocial relationship. It's definitely a tough thing for creators to determine how invested someone is in them.

[@princesserika9899]

Oh wow, really? How was your experiences with celebrities?

[@spiderdude2099]

There should ALWAYS be a part of your private life your partner has no access to. I cannot express how healthy this is to practice in relationships. I experienced this firsthand and one of my exes DEMANDED I do certain things with my phone and social media and it was so fucking gross. I lost year long friendships because he demanded I get rid of certain things on my phone, had no other way to keep in contact with some of those people once I did that.

[@XGD5layer]

Say over rather than access. Constantly feeling fear from someone supposedly close to you is not the way to go. Get away from them if that's the case. Your ex sounds extremely controlling and manipulative... Please don't find a similar one or pay that forward.

[@spiderdude2099]

@@XGD5layer I didn’t. I met a wonderful partner who I’ve been with for 6 years now. It was all in the past and I was far too accepting of his bullshit

[@XGD5layer]

@@spiderdude2099 great to hear :)

[@paulj6805]

I dunno, I kinda disagree. I think if you are hiding aspects of your personal life and keeping aspects of your life private from your partner and you guys are serious, that's probably not healthy. It sounds to me more like you are talking about a controlling partner who wants immediate and constant access to your communications and personal life. That's definitely toxic. However, sharing all aspects of your life with a good partner, voluntarily, that's the ideal goal. I guess I would say in an ideal relationship, you should be open about everything, both ways.

[@spiderdude2099]

@@paulj6805 I was definitely talking mostly about the toxic controlling aspect, but I have to also disagree. There really should be parts of yourself your partner has no business knowing. Just not necessary that they have access to every corner of your life.

[@rollzmoist5061]

the only correct answer for milk before cereal girl is 'i can fix her'

[@spiderdude2099]

She’s beyond saving. Factory reset

[@chiefosiris7248]

I actually exclusively date my haters exactly for this!

[@orangeapples]

This is why you’re single.

[@shaunriordan493]

Argument can be made that Connor hasn’t been in the level of love that Garnt or Joey have found. He will find it one day.

[@RupertPeterson]

Ironmouse

[@shaunriordan493]

@@RupertPeterson a man can dream

[@oceanicGrimalkin]

@@RupertPeterson They're just friends tho

[@doctordoom85]

And even if he doesn’t, that’s okay too. I feel as generations go on, people are slowly realizing life has so much to offer besides romance and such, it’s of course amazing to find it truly but a life is not incomplete without it, and Connor has always struck me as a guy who gets that, and as such can just be positive and down to earth pretty much all the time no matter where he is in life.

[@shaunriordan493]

@@doctordoom85 agreed. Just won’t have the same insight on these types of questions.

[@mario98730]

If you are 2 consenting adults, i think its perfectly fine (Often thats the big issue with creator-fan relationships.) And they might have a little parasocial thoughts when you start sure, but if they’re not a superfan and are mature, i think it’s pretty simple to separate the creator from their content. If they like you for you, doesn’t matter if they found you online or in a bar. Plenty of KZbinrs and even celebrities have been with their fans and it turned out okay. But I can also see why someone like Connor would feel weird ab it and try to avoid it. Probably hard to find an ideal partner who’s also your fan, but i say if you feel a genuine connection with someone and you’ve made sure they’re not just interested in your online persona, its worth considering trying

[@realkingofantarctica]

If you can make due with them being bad at small-talk. I also wouldn't recommend sticking "it" inside unless it's powered off.

[@sqiddy2372]

Depends about the phone password thing. If they're like "I NEED YOUR PASSWORD" and we'd just started going out then yeah red flag, but me and my partner have eachother's phone passwords for practical reasons but we don't look through eachother's phones. I think that's more of where the trust thing is like - you can have my password but I trust you not to look through my phone

[@YungandRekless545]

"If a man cannot pee on his fans, I don't wanna be in show business anymore" *-Dave Chappelle*

[@triomegazero]

The answer to 'you have nothing to hide' is 'you are not entitled to everything about me'.

[@CyAA-ri2us]

my answer to 'you have nothing to hide' is 'are you speaking to me or to yourself?' 10/10 times the person is just projecting

[@raquanwilliams5572]

I feel like it’s a little bit of a reach to say you shouldn’t have access to your partners phone. It’s just weird that someone would be so elusive about their passcode, especially if you get married. For Christ sake, in the US anyway, you end up sharing credit file with your spouse. I think it’s odd if a guy would be so resistant to sharing. My husband and I know each others passcodes and it’s not a problem. It just sounds like fuckboy Internet culture justifying secrecy

[@triomegazero]

Yeah nah, privacy is not forfeited by marriage vows, that's a boundary to be respected.

[@raquanwilliams5572]

@@triomegazeroI have privacy in my free time I choose to spend alone and my personal friends I don’t share with my husband. Giving the password of a piece of contemporary equipment to someone you literally share your naked body with, truly, I’m not seeing what the problem is here. It just feels like some imaginary boundary y’all are creating with a life partner over this vague principle of “privacy”. But hey, go off

[@triomegazero]

What we share with our partners is still our choice and can be unshared if we decide to.

[@stuntmonkey00]

Funny thing, Wait Wait Don't Tell Me had an Insta post about this. "If they watch your show, it's a beige flag. If they ONLY watch your show, it's a red flag."

[@projectmessiah]

Deadass had Scott Pilgrim on my mind and read the title as "Is it acceptable to date high schoolers"

[@zuffin1864]

Me and my gf were both clingy messes so we texted all the time from the start lol

[@MewDenise]

Marzia was a Pewdiepie fan

[@Tanjura]

If the person is genuinely interested in you as a human being and not your "stage persona" and is not in it for the clout, then why not? There's this stereotype that fans are mindless and obsessive and just want to "catch" a celebrity as some kind of throphy. And while these fans certainly exist, there's more than enough people who are not like this. So it's definitely possible for a real human connection to form between a creator and a fan.

[@MK_2023.]

Aki was a fan of Joey before they started dating, but she also had a very small KZbin channel at the time when they started talking. So he knew she wasn't some sort of weirdo.

[@SavantGardeEX]

Same with marzia and pewdiepie 😅

[@claytonmerle976]

Tbh there are so many situations where dating or even sleeping with fans could go wrong (Ryan Haywood situation anyone?) but as was pointed out there are plenty of examples where it has gone good like Mark Rober. I think it could be fiiine as long as certain agreements are made between the 2 and maybe an attempt to even out the power dynamic.

[@8bitdiedie]

I think for extremely famous celebrities once you get to a certain high level of fame, you’re essentially at a place where everyone around you is either a ‘fan’ of your work to some degree, or they actively dislike your work or at most are disinterested in it. Seeing as it wouldn’t make sense to date someone who dislikes or is actively uninterested in your own life’s achievements, their only choice at that point is to date someone who is a ‘fan’ to some degree.

[@TheCreepypro]

a much more nuanced question than you would think

[@bruhdon4748]

Definitely is okay, look at Drew Gooden, he met his WIFE through her being a fan & liking his content on Vine, they ended up dating for years and years, eventually got married and have been married for years now & they make funny content together & she’s become loved by his fans and audience in turn (which is rare because a lot of fans become jealous for some reason)

[@Icarus975]

Wasn’t Pewdiepie’s Wife Marzia originally her fan

[@yourbasicninja]

Yeah , but that was waaaay before he got famous on youtube. He was hot dog salesman at the time.

[@omnom277]

Yep, Marzia knew of Pewdiepie because her friend shared his videos

[@randomandroiduser7220]

This was way before he was famous and youtubers weren't celebrities with a lot of money and influence like some are today they were mostly just weird kids playing video games or doing sketches and make up tutorials

[@Shikiro14]

She a 10, but she pours milk before cereal. I have no problems with this because for a certain cereals I prefer it this way. Ex. 1.Frosted flakes get too soggy at the end of the bowl 2. Rice crispies get too soggy at the end of the bowl But I prefer the other way for others. Ex. 1. Cap'n Crunch will destroy/cut up my mouth if they aren't soaked in milk for a bit. 2. Coco Puffs give you that sweet sweet chocolate milk at the end of the bowl.

[@aurthurpendragon1015]

Wasn't Mother's Basement's girlfriend a fan of his content before they met?

[@naomililith9350]

The milk cerial is nothing. What about people who first eat only the liquid of the soup and then the solids? That I find odd.

[@thischannel4326]

what about dating your air conditioners?

[@kevinezra2115]

But what if......they're realllllllly hot?

[@neociber24]

With the amount of subs they have for sure they have a lot of hot fans

[@followerofmanus1]

Thats objectifying to an extreme level because you mentioned it. We all objectify people sexually and non-sexually consciously or subconsciously. You shouldn't rely on that as a reason to pursue. At that point pleasure yourself or learn self control to get rid of those thoughts.

[@mattbaltimore7195]

The cereal part is another peak Trash Taste......😂😂😂😂

[@delix787]

I’ve been thinking about this for a while, it’s so strange when you have all these teenagers worshiping these child celebrity stars like the cast of Stranger Things. People’s obsession with Millie Bobby Brown is very strange to me!! Just because you watched some inspirational speeches of them or you watch them be nice in public, because they are obviously being recorded. That is just one perspective on a celebrity that you like but you absolutely know nothing about them, but you act like you’re connected with them because you see them a certain way when the camera is on but you don’t think about who are they when the camera is off? They are celebrities that I like and admire as well, but I am only liking them from one perspective of them. I can never judge them face-to-face.

[@jeffdaman6969]

If it’s two consenting adults then it’s none of my business.

[@HeatStrokeV2]

Man Connor really be calling out my insecurities

[@leprinter]

Nah the thumbnail got me confused and I already watched the episode

[@timlerch7425]

I understand the concept of "power dynamic", but I think a shitty romantic partner is a shitty partner regardless of how your relationship starts. I just say "consent is consent" and move on. It ain't any of my business, and I would hope to be treated the same if I was in those circumstances.

[@Yo_Cami]

I think a part of the ick is the possibility that your date comes with some expectation or fetishize you.

[@lilpenn7516]

You could say this about anything, but sometimes you need to specify for the sake of understanding the moral implications. You could just as easily say "I understand the concept of "self defense", but I think murder is murder regardless of how it happens. I just say "murder is murder" and move on". If you get rid of the nuance you strip away what truly happened.

[@timlerch7425]

@@lilpenn7516 you completey missed the part of me saying to exclude unhealthy relationships. I never abandoned the nuance.

[@lilpenn7516]

@@timlerch7425 No I didn't and yes you did. In the same way not including self defense in the equation of murder strips it of nuance so does not including power dynamics in bad relationships. Not all bad relationships are due to a power dynamic so you can't just say "a shitty romantic partner is a shitty partner regardless of how your relationship starts" that's striping away the nuance. I understand that celeb and fan relationships can and have worked but not including the inherent power dynamics of the relationship as part of the equation is you abandoning the nuance.

[@mattandrews2594]

Consent ISN'T consent in a power imbalanced relationship, that's the whole point.

[@Jibobby]

TO THE STREETS

[@samuelsmith9582]

If someone wears the same outfit I'd just be worried that they're struggling/poor.

[@randallpandason3715]

>Imagine judging someone negatively if they wear the same clothes multiple times. What the Shatner, yo? Who cares? Good on Connor.

[@GeekNewz]

It's funny the two mainland Brits argue for the rules while the criminal Brit (Australian) says he doesn't care. Also, Connor's right. *To the streets!*

[@MixaNimations_]

you gotta love the thumbnail ngl

[@Eggy224]

I dont know I am more of an aircone kind of guy

[@cofiyu-gi-ohtutorials7249]

Dude people in a lot of country's don't even eat cereal we are not that broke

[@KrystalBraveheart]

usually you add the water to soup before the other ingredients why is cereal different hmmm

[@subieasunayuuki]

I don't think so. Good fans are like the internet children of content creators

[@wakawakatakeover]

Hmm... For me, the phone password thing is a pink flag. It's mostly red, but there's one or two circumstances where it's understandable! Like if you want to play a game on their phone. Like you're doing Pokemon GO together, and one of you is driving. Instead of having to constantly take the phone and reenter your password when you have a moment, just tell them your code. Or if one of your phones are blowing up when its inconvenient. You were using an app for navigation or music and it crashed. I think those are understandable circumstances to ask. But if it just comes out of the blue with no pesky technology BS annoying you, that is ABSOLUTELY a red flag!

[@burningpapersun1]

I know a girl who eats milk and cereal separately because she cant stand it getting soggy.

[@whodatboi2567]

As long as they don't have a parasocial relationship with you it should be fine done responsibly.

[@Glasses_Kun-n6z]

Wasn’t Aki a fan of Joey before they dated?

[@babananabanana9163]

Connor is a guy that people should never date, more over marry. You cannot share how your day is, or ask how is their day. Hes only good to have as a friend.

[@Sulaiman-xh8wx]

Wtf

[@lukekahs177]

Wasn't Aki a fan of Joey's before they started dating?

[@cub-square]

Gals if you want to date Connor do this one thing KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT pretend that you live under the rock

[@RandomPerson28337]

The only fans I date are onlyfans girls from onlyfans.

[@mschored487]

Where does Rainhoe fall?

[@neociber24]

She use Twitch emotes IRL, no chance here

[@Kingofmetal606]

🤔 does music on KZbin doesn’t show his face doesn’t have a head that’s 100% TheDooo 😂❤

[@Rihcterwilker]

There's a power play in factor here, AND the person is interested in your status, the concept of your presented image, not in the person itself.

[@chalyvue1532]

Are they underage? No then go right ahead

[@childhoodfriendsalwayswin]

Jerma

[@lordbauer5983]

Sleeping with fans is whatever. There’s zero commitment at play, just make sure to use protection (as you should normally be doing, anyway). Half the time, it’s more about the fan stroking THEIR ego than the actual celebrity in question, where they’ll get to brag about their brush with fame. Dating fans? Ehhhhh, that’s usually a really bad idea. The fan already has too many expectations and assumptions about you based on the public content that you’ve chosen to put out; meanwhile, you know close to nothing about them. Not to mention the fact that you both exist in completely different realms of reality in terms finances, social life, and just general priorities.

[@Ash_Wen-li]

Sleeping with fans sounds like a me too accusation waiting to happen

[@lordbauer5983]

@@Ash_Wen-li That’s why a lot of fans usually sign an NDA if they want to have sex with a celeb. Those encounters are extremely litigious like you mentioned, and there’s ALWAYS the possibility of them deciding they want to milk the situation for attention/money. It’s not exactly the most romantic option, but you aren’t signing up to bang some dude you met the bar, either.

[@mattandrews2594]

Well, the short answer is obviously absolutely not, because of the power imbalance dynamic at play. If dating your juniors at your place of work isn't tolerated, dating fans definitely shouldn't be either.

[@jotana_ch]

34 seconds

[@benhenderson8952]

Especially if they’re minors Edit: i misread the title

[@yamiali1783]

Why did u write edit without editing 😂 Edit: that's crazy

[@samuelsmith9582]

I think the answer depends entirely on how genuine the videos are.

[@okechukwuenweani9991]

Of course its not acceptable lol. 🤨

[@kotorandcorvid4968]

It is acceptable

[@spiderdude2099]

The wives of Joey Pewdiepie Mark Rober And MANY others would beg to differ

[@hiimmistergay4247]

​@@spiderdude2099dunkey too

[@kevboard]

better cancel pewdiepie again then lol, get the pitchforks people!