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[@artfire28]

If they remove "blind" jokes once Toph joins the gang, this LA series is dead to me.

[@tyrantking2322]

Heck, id be surprise if they KEPT her blindness

[@nex5691]

They’d def remove it coz they don’t want to offend blind fans which imo sucks since yea ur gonna ruin the entire show if ever So yea how cringey is Netflix now prob 10/10 cringe like riot games restricting bad jokes

[@bobjohnson1061]

But how else would they get blind people to watch the show?

[@SolracNexus]

@@nex5691 and the fact that daredevil was on netflix and the characters made a lot of witty blind jokes, especially when stick and matt are in the same room

[@TheBluePhoenix008]

​@@nex5691 who the fuck watches a visual show blind

[@saiyanxz6972]

I remember reading a comment saying the acting felt like it was turned based acting lol.

[@bgill7475]

The acting for the most part isn’t great but uncle iroh and zuko are always good. Some very touching moments between the two. It’s also pretty faithful to the original show. Overall I really liked it.

[@alejandrotuazon4831]

If its timing based issues in the dialogue, thats on the director for not directing the actors better even if they are novice actors

[@weebman9762]

Isnt that how chatting works

[@equinox3625]

​@@bgill7475 every show has moments. Even the bad ones

[@toddalexander5015]

We're the actors even in the same room?

[@Ash_Wen-li]

You know what's more interesting than going into the Avatar live action blind? Watching the original show.

[@thomasffrench3639]

That's how I feel with people who watch anime instead of reading the source material.

[@Ash_Wen-li]

​@@thomasffrench3639That's fair. But typically there isn't a massive quality drop like with live action

[@sleepyninjarin7971]

Even things where there is a massive quality drop it is nothing compared to the drop from live action

[@skull1161]

@@thomasffrench3639 thats different tho, the original avatar series is amazing but this live action tries to do so many things differently with bad writing and dialogue whereas an anime is literally just the source material put into animation with VA's and music

[@umu-san4414]

Actually, I envy that Garnt is going to be able to watch the og after he watches this.

[@thomasreese2816]

Biggest miss is not making Aang act like a child. He has tons of humor and naivety in the original. Both remakes make him sad and serious all the time, unlike any child ever

[@yane2478]

it wouldn't suite the tone they set at beginning and he still has his goofy moments

[@petestone6327]

@@yane2478It can be done with good writing.

[@kyle6344]

This

[@leastselfawarepotassium]

Your last line is silly. The rest I kind of agree with though. Much harder to pull off in a live action setting.

[@arsenalmike1835]

The only time I see being a like child is when he jokes with sokka or gyatso

[@dkvitaleme]

14:00 Sokka was never misgnostic he was sexist. No hatred or contempt against woman he just believed men had roles and were better at certain things and vice versa with woman. I dont get why people dont know the definition of misogny thats crazy.

[@reunion_k9375]

👍

[@DatBoiAntix]

My only complaint is there wasn't enough of it to show. He's really sexist in the show until like... book 3.

[@dkvitaleme]

@@DatBoiAntix early book 1 you mean*?

[@roombster]

@@DatBoiAntix he's not sexist anymore after episode 4 of book 1, but he still has masculinity and insecurity problems that don't get better until book 3 when he starts training with piandao.

[@x0gucx]

@@roombster Honestly if they took away the sexism and said nothing, I would've been fine if they actually kept some area for him to actually grow from. As it is, he has literally nothing. He's not overly arrogant or cocky or you know anything from being THE defender of his home for like half of his entire life, they don't even talk about being a part or defending THE ENTIRETY OF THE SOUTHERN WATER TRIBE just "wolf cove" why is everyone so small minded? you should be proud to represent a nation.

[@Soulindex]

Garnt only seeing Netflix Avatar but not having seen the original is the same energy as a decade ago when I'd run into people who've only seen the movie but not the show.

[@sarvashaktimaan7106]

Watching the CG berserk anime without reading the manga

[@yuvalgabay1023]

​@@sarvashaktimaan7106watching porn whit out having sex Ohhh whait a second

[@Kelpie9423]

or even the original 97' anime@@sarvashaktimaan7106

[@the-red-thing]

Watching Netflix’s Cowboy Bepop without watching the anime

[@L-W-ko1hn]

the death note movie without anime@@the-red-thing

[@fleur_and_flower]

Zuko's actor, Dallas Liu, probably has the most martial arts experience since he had been competing since he was a child (from age 5). The only other actor with experience would be Sokka's Ian Ousley (from age 9), but he doesn't get to showcase it much since Sokka is a non-bender. Hence why Zuko seems to look more natural and skilled with the fight choreography than the others (the main gang had a two month bootcamp to learn all four martial arts before filming, so Aang and Katara's actors are still fairly new at it). Hopefully going into the next season, they will have some more time to hone their skills.

[@TheBluePhoenix008]

Oong from The Last Airbender was a natural martial artist. Ya saw how he acted lmao.

[@x0gucx]

honestly the fights didn't matter to me as much as the characterizations and they butchered a lot of them.

[@Aliyaaaa]

​@@x0gucx you know I understand reinterpreting some characters but I don't like it. In my opinion Azula got obliterated just like Yue. They tried too hard to make characters more down to earth. Like azula was basically a psychopath, yet in the live action she is a strong girl wanting validation from her dad

[@tyrantking2322]

As bad as this show gets or is, please no one bully or harass those kids

[@Blacky_ljb1]

Not the actors fault, bad writing and pacing. Trying to mash storylines together to reduce episode count. Side note, aang not learning any water bending despite this being book 1 water

[@skull1161]

genuinely from a small amount of interviews the cast seems great and embodies their characters well, its the directors and writers that absolutely butchered this remake and didnt allow the actors to bring out their actual potential

[@kaimobley5324]

There's nothing to "bully" these kids for. I mean realistically only the person who portrayed Katara should be talked about bcus she was literally Bland in every way. Acting, Emotions, Facial Expression etc. All the other Actors had Energy to them and their performances even if they didn't portray their character well but the Katara Actor had nothing and was clearly the Odd Ball out of the group

[@famimame]

@@kaimobley5324 Never underestimate internet sociopaths and twitter

[@ManOfParody]

But please harass the writers

[@__dane__]

I hope Garnt watches the original

[@Spazlites]

That’s just blasphemy

[@obiarne]

I really hope he does, and I can already picture his review or summary with his poetic explanation... If we place ATLA on MAL ranking list, it would be in the top 10. Even if it's actually a kids show, it hits different for adults too.

[@Valoric]

Seriously. It’s the only decent thing in the avatar universe. Korra sucks. Movie sucks. Games suck. Comics suck (ATLA ones aren’t awful). Netflix TV show sucks. Anything yet made will suck because the writers are now talentless hacks and so is everyone else in Hollywood. Hacks as far as the eye can see.

[@jiv3o275]

@@Valoric bro what Yea Korra had it's issues (*especially* s2) but it in no way deserves to be lumped in with this live action show or the games. And none of these things come close to the awfulness of the movie

[@AnimeFlyz]

​​@@Valoric Nah dude most of the ATLA comics are also dumb

[@Jips907]

Netflix should've milked book 1 into 2 parts. Instead of cramming it into 8 episodes

[@axios7603]

avatar is shit , SUNG DRIP WOO THE SHADOQ MONARCH SOLOSSSS

[@caratrevoso3347]

​@@axios7603 But can he beat Goku tho?

[@CSM_Kobeni]

Evidently they had more time to work with because they took out the jeong jeong ep, great divide, intros, and outros that are included in the episodes... They didn't cram it they mismanaged their time with too long dialogue.

[@mischake]

Remember when shows had 20-50 episode seasons?

[@jamesalexander5559]

If I was splitting Book 1 into two seasons, I would have the first season end at Roku's Temple when he tells Aang about the comet and uses the Avatar state to destroy the temple. It gives you a cool action set piece and a hook for another season.

[@Lark88]

Probably the biggest complaint I've heard is the writers don't understand the source material and there's no subtlety in the dialogue.

[@kk_sj3635]

The producers actually has the same "criticism" during the premier so they're pretty self-aware. I just hope they do better in S2 and S3.

[@Aliyaaaa]

​@@kk_sj3635oh wow that gives me hope! If they really improve that aspect, I can genuinely look forward to the next seasons

[@mirandamalone6060]

The live action isn’t the worst, but it’s just disappointing when compared to how great the original animation is. Which brings back the question of why does every successful animation need a live action? As if the animation medium isn’t good enough?

[@triggerfairy4070]

Money

[@whyareyoubothering]

There is still a large portion of TV audiences that don’t watch cartoons because “they’re for children” so making a live action of a critically acclaimed animation draws the attention of that audience.

[@LshowKnows]

Like someone said, this is basically a way to spread the IP through groups of people that either never picked up cartoons or never got to see said IP. The medium does work tho, at this point in time Live Action in terms of technology has everything to make it work, the One Piece LA was actually successful as an adaptation. The big problem is that IPs are bought left and right and given to teams that have no interest in respecting the original source material. Cause let's think about it, Death note and Bebop should have been super easy to adapt, the big problem was the writing

[@USSAnimeNCC-]

How about we stop asking for live action because it snub to the animation also they never do it right

[@USSAnimeNCC-]

@@whyareyoubothering I don’t like it when people talk that way I feel like some smug rich jerk walk to me a insult me for eating a Philly cheeesteak and tell I never eaten real food it must be sad that I’m missing out on what some fancy restaurant sell because I’m too poor and uncultured

[@TheXkyneticx]

Lightning from firebenders makes sense, when you realize that firebending at its core is life and energy. It kind of gets explained when Zuko and Aang go to the sun warrior civilization to study the origins of firebending

[@horushyperion76]

Isnt energy the basis of all bending like energy bending affect all benders iirc. To me i think it the fact fire and lighting are both plasma made up of electrons and ions.

[@bomdoboy]

The live action does a lot of things good but it fails in pacing and dialogue. Visually stunning but rushed adaptation

[@elessal]

which is sad because it was the easiest job in the world. they already had more screen time to tell the stories of the first season than the original animated show had. and they had even more time after ignoring like 3 or 4 episodes worth of scenes and stories. they had already succeded at the hardest part which was having money and the proper CGI people. yet these ''professional'' writers and directors in charge did a far inferior show at casting actors and adapting a fucking animated series than what the fans would have been able to make had they been given the same money and resourses. just like there is far better fanmade videos on youtube of Halo and Star Wars than what we got from the Halo Show and the Star Wars Sequels. these idiots could not even have the common sense of using the original music rather thanm composing a generic and forgetable soundtrack which used the original music only here and there for a few seconds. at least Shyamalan had the excuse of having to adapt an entire season in a movie.

[@lazysnorlax3015]

They did sooo much wrong. Changing key plot points and motivations. As well as changing certain characters personalities like katara, azula is unrecognizable and zuko was to0 empathetic to quickly. Book one zuko was an actual villain and did pretty bad things through out the begininng of the series. Which made his redemption and inner conflict so much better.

[@Jank_Hill]

I don't even think they did a lot good. The only things I think they nailed were set design and the casting of *some* of the characters. The rest is all either slightly off or way off.

[@noobmasterruben5167]

They also toned down Aang's happy go lucky attitude and Katara's personality

[@cha_21]

The “professional writers” are just from the same breed that Elon Musk kicked them out. YES... WOKE PEOPLE writing scripts

[@thomasffrench3639]

Connor being like “it’s not supposed to be the same” is literally why I still keep trusting Connor despite his terrible takes. He’s not worried if something can capture some other thing, he always takes it at face value.

[@587DeathKing]

The funny part of Korra is like the first 15 minutes establishes "Aang's gone. Katara is old. There's a new avatar and this is going to be a completely new adventure"

[@Rihcterwilker]

​@@587DeathKing It's a new thing, but bad in it's own right, even without they comparison. And i say that being someone that likes it, in a guilty pleasure way.

[@kinglightning5256]

​@587DeathKing yes no crap the legend of korra we knew it was going to be a new avatar and a new adventure but like we saw korra character wasn't that great threw out the series and the new team avatar is real bad compared to the original team avatar. Like we saw with the previous avatars like aang and roku they had teachers who helped them bend and build friendships with them korra didn't have that. Sure she was forced locked away from the world but like we saw in book 2 she was acting like a big D she was literally trusting her sus uncle over her father,mother and tenzin plus tons more I can say about her character bit I don't feel like typing all that. But one more thing korra is supposed to be the strongest avatar but she gets her butt beat alot like we saw when she faced the dark avatar she'd had no reason to lose that fight she'd had years of experience of 3 of her elements and she lost to a dark avatar only using water like why she never stayed in the avatar state and win and her kurvira fight sure she was still mentally ill but the fact she didn't land a single blow on her is beyond me.

[@oceanicGrimalkin]

Why I didn't end up liking LoK is due to the writing rather than different characters, tbh (LoK and the original also had different writers).

[@elessal]

then his opinion about adaptations is not worth lisening to. adaptations are suposed to adapt. and you can either adapt well or bad. and this was a bad adaptation. people who know not what was taken from them can not understand how crappy their situation is.

[@danielpeter725]

Garnt didnt watch avatar? Thats surprised me.

[@user-lh5my4ws8j]

I mean he didn't watch Fullmetal Alchemist when he was basically anime reviewer for long time.

[@thomasffrench3639]

I'm not surprised. He looks down on western animation.

[@hectora.3220]

Well he is a bit older than the other guys, he is from UK where nickelodeon probably wasn't as popular and like people say he isn't that interested in Western animation.

[@thomasffrench3639]

@@hectora.3220 he would rather watch mid harem shows

[@hectora.3220]

@@thomasffrench3639 even if it is for work I would go insane watching so much crap just for a video.

[@mixwatcher265]

While the visuals are good, they can only do so much when it’s paired with bad dialogue, poor pacing, and some questionable story and character changes from the original. This show dragged so much, especially in episodes 3 and 4, and it really didn’t get much better afterwards aside from maybe one episode

[@pichitosmalltown3239]

true. the zuko episode was actually really good, but afterwards it becomes a chore to watch

[@x0gucx]

@@pichitosmalltown3239 I couldn't even get there. I've yet to finish the third because i kept going "wtf?" and just stopped to watch the anime.

[@silverikov7]

It's funny how the original creator didn't trash the live action when they left the project. They just said "when it comes out you will see why we left". Now that I have seen the live action, I can see why they drop the project.

[@tonym.8069]

It literally was the curse of M Night, where everything had to have a twist on it lol.mwhat if Bumi was evvvvvvvvvvvvil, or what if we didn't show them training at all but added too many scenes we did not need!

[@Rusty_Spy]

"you'll see why we left" is hella trash talk wym?

[@Georgeorat]

​@@Rusty_Spy less is more No need to trash the trashbag, just let it spill

[@danlockthegreat9023]

I can't see why, I like it more than the cartoon, the weakest episode is the one the original creators worked on

[@CatVideoEr]

BULSHIT ​@@danlockthegreat9023

[@SavantPete]

Sokka has such perfect character development. He had this close-minded view of the world and he becomes more open-minded and blooms into a great warrior and strategist

[@storm0fcrows274]

On Aang rejecting his role… it came off in the animated show as a reaction of a child, because he was going to be separated from his parental not because of the nebulous weight of a title

[@587DeathKing]

The lamest thing about showing the Air Nation getting attacked is that it's so pointless because of how well the animated series did it just showing the dead body of Gyatso and having the weight of it just Aang all at once and it's even more impressive because its a childrens cartoon that showed this.

[@swanankumarghosh9031]

Yeh it needed to be more brutal where the air nomads didn’t stood any chance. Just pointless struggle. Would have really cemented fire nation as powerful and scary warriors .

[@VashdaCrash]

@@swanankumarghosh9031 I agree, there was this one guy who fought a solid minute against 5 powered up fire warriors. Ano0ther idea would be that they could have been good at fleeing, so the fire nation could have had a hard time chasing some of them.

[@craigoshiogwe9566]

disagree

[@587DeathKing]

​@@swanankumarghosh9031They recently got rid of an ENTIRE civilization and started a war, what more do you need to know that they're powerful and scary

[@ThyN00bly]

@@587DeathKing -“Oh yeah, whats the difference?” -“Presentation!”

[@KP_Uravity]

Two guys who vaguely remember the original and ine who's never seen it 😭

[@samsonsapuro8373]

Made it so hard to watch 😂 should have brought in a guest or smtn who knows the series

[@Sceptile24]

Why do they decide to talk about stuff they don't know shit about

[@kiratwo4u]

and then they get paid for this shit?

[@SolracNexus]

Removing the "sexist jokes" of sokka and making aang less child-like is the equivalent of levi ackerman making jokes or kazuma being respectful

[@danlockthegreat9023]

It's honestly the reason I prefer the live action over the cartoon

[@katanabluejay]

The term you're looking for is: "character assassination"

[@Shakahron]

Sokka was sexist for 5% of the shows entire runtime. Dunno wtf you are talking about, the adaption has way bigger problems than some minor arc being changed.

[@OPUP]

Him meeting the warriors of Kyoshi and learning how to grapple instead of learning newfound respect for women and changing his relationship with his sister is so annoying. She's literally in episode two, can we tolerate him being a jerk for 90 minutes before he has a life changing encounter that has a lasting impact on him and the series. Suki deserved better.

[@lojanta]

​@mitchelljohnson9139 I've just finished watching the first season of the og one and I thought the same. People are exaggerating SO much on it... I don't understand why Netflix's writers would give up on that part since they'd have a perfect occasion for showing feminism... but oh well. Still, I think removing Sokka's sexism is not the end of the world for that character, and the internet really makes a mountain out of a molehill.

[@Seisachtheia]

The live action was fine. A lot of telling and not showing, actors who are just getting used to their characters. Decent bending effects and good costuming and set pieces. Probably a 5.5/10 for me, they have butchered the overall narrative by removing Aang's development from *just a kid* to *the avatar*

[@za-ir5ni]

Finally someone who thinks it's just fine and points out the problems and doesn't give it like an 8/10. An actually reasonable score.

[@ceshmate1953]

live action was fine ? Have you watched the third episode ? It's complete garbage. They tried to mix 3 stories into one. Omashu, northern air temple with the scientiest and wheelchair guy and jett. It was a complete garbage of an episode where nothing made proper sense. No logic.

[@nugget3687]

And then there's episode 6 which is a fantastic episode, a single episode doesn't make a whole show ​@@ceshmate1953

[@leastselfawarepotassium]

@@ceshmate1953that’s a review based on how accurately it replicates the original though.

[@_toulouse]

@@ceshmate1953are you watching it expecting a 1:1 adaptation of the original, or are you viewing it as something that takes the elements from the original to make something that stands alone? because if you do the latter, it is decently cohesive.

[@DragunnitumGaming]

15:57 THEY DID EXPLAIN IT!! when sozin was about to burn Giyatso he said that "the firebenders would be no match to air under normal circumstances, but tonight we HAVE THE POWER OF THE COMET!" also there are many other points i want to bring up but i'm tired, just pay attention when you watch

[@KaagKagamine5]

Glad to hear Connor understands TLoK. Of course it's not perfect, there's things that aged badly but personally i still appreciate the attempt of the creators who clearly did great with comedy try something more dramatic because it's good. Weirdly enough Korra fits better the tone Netflix tried to go with, and as the catalyst of a lot of themes Netflix loves to tackle it's weird. They could have done that or an anime adaptation of the Zuko comics.

[@Meirstein]

Garnt: Airbender Joey: Firebender Connor: Facebender

[@Speederzzz]

Koh-nnor

[@yuvalgabay1023]

Hes a rizz bender like sokka

[@RaiXKimLuver]

Omg someone needs to draw fan art of this 😂

[@kiratwo4u]

trashbenders

[@DIEGOLOKO82]

they adapted a 10/10 cartoon into a 5/10 live action

[@szandsr]

Garnt please make a video about your journey watching the original animated Avatar, that's PRIME CONTENT waiting to be plucked.

[@tonym.8069]

Especially when he could compare and contrast what makes it work as a fantasy series (and pseudo isekai if you will) vs. something like Inuyasha or any slew of modern fantasy anime with the same kinda elemental set up. Could do it in six/seven parts (for each half of a book and then a big wrap up talking about the show and how it worked or how it did not for him) and then advice for how to make a show more like Avatar and less like "generic fantasy 5421." Be also a great thing to do with his lovely wife if she has not or has seen the show

[@An_Iron_God69420]

yes please

[@j-manrep5220]

What blood bending death is Joey talking about @13:00? Not a SINGLE person in the original series dies from blood bending....It's savage as hell what Katara does to the Southern Raiders captain, but he lived. Same with the actual soldier she was looking for. I think he got a couple wires crossed lol.

[@ariindny88]

“ITS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE THE SAME”

[@LatifaFleuranza]

Exactly! If it's not supposed to be the same then why not make something original? Why leech off of an existing IP success? This argument is so brain dead and really pisses me off.

[@cloudyjdiketso8750]

plus...i think the fact tht the firelords identity wasnt revealed until the last season..added something to it....he was an unknown entity....mysterious yet powerful...he felt inevitable....it made the task of the avatar all the more harder to complete....

[@kingokaze]

I already hate how the studio writers and the actor who played Sokka agreed to "tone down Sokka's sexism." 1. The reason why Sokka was sexist towards his sister Katara and the Kiyoshi warriors was because he wanted to protect her, just like how Sokka and Katara's father went off to fight. 2. Sexism was the whole reason that Katara and Sokka's Grandmother fled down to the southern water tribe, because they didn't want Katara to grow up in an environment where she was treated as being only good for healing and not being a seen as a true water bender. 3. The biggest part of Sokka's character development was the fact that he got his ass handed to him by the Kiyoshi warriors and through that learned to be more humble, especially when Toph then joined the group Sokka took on the role of care taker sometimes for Toph. It's this sort of blatant disregard for the source material and character motivations that makes watching live adaptations of anything hard to watch.

[@TearsOfThem]

Thank you being one of the few commenters who get it, people are playing off his sexism as not sexism for whatever reason. It’s essential for his character and the story

[@fuuka69420]

Yea people just look at it on surface level. They just label things the way they are instead of deeply looking into thinga..I think thats why character arc like sokka probably won't be in modern medias 🫤🫤

[@ParkerBai92]

Wait...Garnt hasn't seen the original?? Even though he put it in his "20 must watch anime" video?????

[@tonym.8069]

Sydney Connor and Joey probably were going to strangle him if he did not, Mousey and Aki too

[@xuvial1391]

This basically confirms that Garnt will never watch the original.

[@SeijinApollo]

The reason I dont enjoy most "Live-Action adaptations" is usually because it feels unnecessary. - Like, why do we need a Live-Action version of something that is already perfect in its original form. - A Live-Action adaption would have to either improve or expand (in a good way) on the source material, but it usually falls flat for me due to the limitations and time constraints. - But that's just my personal feeling of course!

[@Pancakegirl_]

Because seeing it in real life and not in cartoon form is cool

[@noobmasterruben5167]

Its usually a business perspective. Companies know this shows have large fanbases which is Y they still sell regardless if its good or not. If U ask me, I think underrated shows like Symbionic titan is way better idea or netflix shud stick with comic book adaptations because The Sandman was really good

[@codeonexz3813]

You can choose do not watch any live action for the rest of your life. Still doesn’t mean they should stop making it. Usually live action tends to bring more people who wouldn’t watch the original, to start being interested.

[@swanankumarghosh9031]

You know you fucked up when the original creators departed the show.

[@heyitsme9258]

Yup, that is the reason I decided not to watch when I heard about that.

[@Other-stuff-sports-lm1ok]

exactly! Everyone thought it was a bad sign at first. The first trailer looked so good. But those can always be deceiving.

[@13Kr4zYAzN13]

Friend and I binged the show It quickly became apparent where (and WHEN) the original creators left.

[@wolfeloma]

yea was surprised

[@krlost4405]

What? Didnt know about this... no wonder the show started fine a d then went down about the 3rd episode.

[@NotInTheFace111]

People forgot that Aang was opening up to his best friend and life companion, Appa. Why would he hold back speaking his mind in that moment when Appa don't judge?

[@gaarafan14thedarkknight63]

My thoughts exactly.

[@pumpkinss3952]

To have all air nomads die in one day, at one festival, is such a stretch. In the OG, the Fire nation knew that the next avatar was an air nomad, so they went around the world hunting and killing air nomads. Drawing parallel from the story of king Herod’s decree to kill all infant boys, to get rid of the prophecised king of the Jews.

[@pumpkinss3952]

Basically, the worst thing about this live action is the writing. Good casting (though some actors are mehh, and theres lack of chemistry for some), good costume, good effects

[@stantwitterbrainrotcore]

the element bendings actually based on actual martial arts. water= tai chi, earth=Hun gar, fire=xiaolin, air= ba guar

[@willchase1952]

It wasn't terrible, but getting to the end of the first season without the avatar learning water bending was confusing.

[@wttruax5816]

the live action inspired me to rewatch the original

[@tipilot3791]

legit lmao. the first thing i did after finishing the live action is cleanse my pallet with the original

[@IsmailAli-vb7ts]

I feel like the show could’ve been drastically improved by simply making the first season longer. It would improve the acting & story telling

[@apuppetnamedaxel4300]

correct me if im wrong, but i think people said aang didnt learnd water control in the entire book of water

[@kamikaze.33]

True... It's awful.

[@lukeshoo]

People keep saying this even though obviously the point of book one in the original series was about Katara becoming a water bending master.

[@potatohildy]

Book One was about Aang and Katara learning waterbending TOGETHER

[@lukeshoo]

@@potatohildy Well if that's the case then the original animated show failed too. They didn't learn waterbending together.

[@apuppetnamedaxel4300]

@@lukeshoo they learned the básica together

[@TheMutantCreeper]

God I’m glad Connor is someone who isn’t blinded by nostalgia and likes Korra.

[@degenerateprick3288]

Ifs definitely weaker but i enjoyed it alot

[@eccentricdownfall321]

I agree korra is good, just the romance and spirit was handle weakly.

[@Gecko3456]

Na Korra was really bad.

[@TheMutantCreeper]

@@Gecko3456 ah man you have completely changed my opinion after multiple rewatches and analyzing it and seeing what makes it good. You’re right it’s absolute crap.

[@Seisachtheia]

I'm actually rewatching Korra right now. It's a fun watch that never quite impacts me the way the original does but it's not bad by any means. A couple weirdly undercooked moments (the Korra Asami romance...that felt like it came out of nowhere)

[@ImmersiveReactions]

It ruins aang setup miserably when he discovers what happened to his people, he is just told this by some women. They could have teased the intro and left the audiance on a cliff and then showed Gyatso battling the fire nation juxtaposed with aang finding his body. cutting into his battle and aangs sorrow, with his end coming when aang goes into the avatar state. Also missing the context Katara encouraging aang they are his family now and they will be with him until the end. Which never happens here. They also completely stripped zuko of his arc of resentment and anger towards everyone after being stripped of his honor and titles, and home. And sent off on an impossible mission. He is a hardened resentful person but determined to make up for it. That arc is watered down. Also him fighting his father and BEATING his father in a duel is a mess. Because he refuses to fight his father and his father attacks him anyway, showing how evil that character really is. AND the pay off when he meets his father again is now gone. Because he already beat him in the first season... The writers don't believe the original story can hold an adult audience so they are shoveling everything out at face value no setups no payoffs. Just dialog.

[@GinsuSher]

Zuko and Uncle Iroh are easily the best part of the new show. Action scenes look great. The acting from the main three actors seem stiff at times, with the sokka actor easily being the best among them. The costumes seem too "clean" and that appleis to the earth kingdom city they visit too. The story also seems to suffer at times because they're camming too much plot into one episode. But I guess that just what happens in adaptations.

[@Last_Orbit]

Garn’t not watching FMA and Avatar the last airbender. Make way for the GOAT lol. You sir, bow to no one!

[@ShinMalphur]

This is my favorite comment in regards to the live action: "At best it reminds you how amazing the original was and at worst it reminds you how merciful the live action movie was because at least that was only an hour and a half long."

[@nuclearbirds]

Here’s the thing that both live action remakes miss. Good kids’ shows are targeted to kids, but have a mix of moments sprinkled in to please the adults. Avatar is an adult show, that has things sprinkled in to please the kids. Sure, they don’t have anything that makes unwatchable for kids (until we get to Korra) - but the themes, lore, writing, and most important DIALOGUE are all very mature. The writers never wanted to make a kids show. They had a story they wanted to tell. There isn’t a single major moment that was “for the kids” - so when adaptations come out of the gate saying “we’re adapting a children’s tv show” they’ve already failed on a fundamental level. Even Mark Hamill thought that the show was going to flop “because it was too smart.” So when the people making adaptations try to make it smarter, or more mature, or more dramatic, it winds up doing the opposite.

[@Soy_boi]

I definitely feel like your expectations are completely based on the movie. The reason people are mad isn’t because it is as bad as the movie, but because they basically marketed it as a better version for the modern age, that they got rid of all the “controversial” parts of the old show. But in doing so, they missed the heart of what the show was trying to say and who the characters are. They are not allowed to make mistakes or be real people. The show itself is fine, a solid 6/10, but to say it is an improved version of the original is just insulting, as the original is a masterpiece.

[@je_ey5423]

Imagine if an adaptation remove most if not all of Frieren Slice of Life and subtlety, that's how the Avatar LA felt to me

[@TheeShifty]

Let's not forget, they made Suki kinda creepy. Just always watching Sokka lmao it was funny don't get me wrong but bruh.. I also wonder if they make the rest of the books, if they'll keep Hama's blood bending The costumes are good till they show Yue's hair lmao

[@kevinkovacs3131]

Yeah like she was thinking about Sokka all day every day... like dammm I don't remember Suki being like.that with him this early ans turning her into more "simping" for Sokka.

[@lilacrimosa]

In an attempt to "remove sexism" they somehow became more sexist. The original show never made Sokka's sexism out to be a good thing. It was always presented as a flaw of his that he had to overcome. Instead, we didn't get to see him humble himself in front of the Kyoshi Warriors and /earn/ Suki's respect and admiration. Instead we get.. Suki lusting after him because he's a foreign boy? And her entire character is just taken away, and her only purpose now is to build up Sokka's character. It's remarkably sexist tbh.. Not to mention how the removal of Sokka's sexist remarks to Katara in their opening scenes means we don't get to see Katara's angry unconscious water bending crack open Aang's icecube. Which.. leads into how they neutered the fuck out of Katara and make her boring character. Where did all her emotions go? Are the writers afraid to show an emotional woman? Sigh, it had so much potential. The visuals are stunning. The costumes were great for the most part. The sets were amazing. But they really missed the mark with the character development that makes the show so beloved.

[@TheeShifty]

Yeah.. They made some *wild* changes. I agree they made it way more sexist than the OG. They changed another female char too and I'm wondering if its because of the OG show people had an issue with a thing that happened. I don't wanna say too much cause i don't wanna spoil it for those who haven't finished the Netflix one. While i don't "hate" the show and will probably watch it again just to see if i misses things, it's just... Not it? Smashing the Omashu, jet, and Northern air temple episodes into one? How they changed Bumi.. They took away all of kataras personality. They also didn't have some of the best quotes. "You rise with the moon, i rise with the sun" BITCH WHY WASN'T THAT ADDED?! I'll give em credit, they did sprinkle in some little.. Easter eggs? Mentioning the great divide episode and riding Elephant Koi. They had the right music. I was making jokes about it and said.. Wonder how they'll ruin Toph? Will she not be blind? Or a badass? Will they take away the blind bandit scene? But.. I'm still disappointed. I understand why the creators left. Also why the fuck does it seem like they made it so Aang could fly? And kinda weird comment from Suki about being stronger than benders.. Are they trynn set up for Korra lmao?

[@Khaoticsuccubus]

Oh yeah. Only watched the first 2 myself so far but, those were the 2 things that stuck out the most to me. The grandma’s weird exposition and Suki being thirsty af for Sokka.

[@ralphdary7050]

Looks like they reversed the roles?

[@carlloren5499]

"Maybe my standards are just low because I'm comparing it to the Shyamalan adaptation..." -probably majority of the fandom

[@TexasSnyper]

I never thought I'd see the day that Connor is a more anime man than Joey The Anime Man

[@Drakel_Kami1989]

As far as an live action it was ok. The problem lies with every mini series currently that makes the show suffer. It tries to do to much when most of the elements of the story need time. Especially when there is a continuance of telling the audience full of exposition. It just felt like the show runners were too proud 9f the realism and changes and forgot what the audience loved with the original series. The show just felt like Dragonball Z Kai. Give you the greatest hits of moments we loved but strip the context that made everything makes sense.

[@kermitgotthesickkicks4265]

This show just makes me want rewatch the original show again for like the thousandeth time.

[@ayoCC]

Lightning and fire is actually both plasma.

[@krokodil5131]

When gran gran said "he is the last airbender" I died of cringe 💀

[@HeadbutKneecap]

What really annoyed me is when aang was just casually flying around with nothing for most of the first episode, and then when he tries to use his glider, sumo shoots him down and he just falls as if he couldn’t fly without the glider?

[@iamnothyper]

joey saying katara is well-done, yike

[@DanielMurrell]

16:03 Iroh created lightening bending by water bending as a fire bender basically. So hes using water bending style and since hes a fire bender it manifests as lightning.

[@RetroKidReviews]

look i get connor using jojo logic to describe the avatar life cycle witch to be fair is waaaaay out of lie but he's right.

[@kerngaming2565]

toph becomes a metal bender in episode 2 and shes no longer blind since its offensive to blind people

[@dire213]

you wouldn't say all these stuff if your favourite anime got adapted like this

[@usermnm1104]

Fr for an anime podcast they’re acting like they’re too cool for it lmao

[@Bobsyagod]

One of my problems you'll encounter once you hit the earth kingdom episode is how many episodes they collapse into 1 episode. Everything just becomes a story beat and because it's like 5 episodes in 1, nothing gets the time it deserves.

[@inkblotCrisis]

It's great that Garnt hasn't seen the original, really. Imaging getting to enjoy the animated series for the first time AND as a palette cleanser from the Movie and Netflix series.

[@real_macr0113]

Shyamalan tried his hand at Bollywood choreography with that earth bending scene XD

[@SnWl1992]

There is an episode in book three where they visit a theatre and watch their journey up to that point (and beyond). And the characters in it are a litteral cliche of the originals. (Katara=hopefull etc) and to watch the real life adaptation felt exactly the same for me. 😂

[@MicusII]

They predicted the future

[@sinus.]

"Mf is face-bending" really got me. 😂😂

[@kageyukiaru]

calling it a twitter thing is such a shitty take when there's plenty of videos on youtube explaining why it's SO SO bad, including drew gooden! it's ok if you guys barely remember anything and one haven't even watched the og, but don't say it's "not bad" when you don't even know what's bad about it

[@bamboozledan]

Is no one going to mention the fact Aang doesn't have his staff with him until much later in the live-adaption?

[@eryxsky]

MoistCritikal's review of ATLA:LA is probably what I'm gonna stick with concerning this. I personally don't wanna waste my time watching something that the creators of the show themselves didn't stick around for. Also Joey's thoughts on LOK were the same exact ones I had when I attempted to watch it for myself. I think I got three eps in before I quit watching and haven't gone back since

[@theradionicrevival8068]

I recommend giving it a shot, it’s peak and was mismanaged to hell by nick, so the fact that it got 4 seasons and only ONE of them suck is a testament

[@skull1161]

@@theradionicrevival8068 the only interesting characters are the villains and korra, everyone else is a brick wall, like i dont know the first thing about Mako except that he liked Korra and he was a cop, but I can write paragraphs concerning Zuko, Sokka or Katara, they just have no personality except for being team member #2 #3 etc and the rumor of it being mismanaged by nick is very annoying, if they wanted to make a great show they should have simply pitched a 4 season show to nick in the first place, did you know atla had all 3 seasons mapped out before they even pitched the idea to nick, whats tlok's excuse? its definitely worth a shot but it really is not peak, season 2 sucks, season 1 feels rushed, season 3 was good and season 4 just doesnt feel like avatar, like really a giant laser beam shooting mech? what is the next avatar gonna have to deal with? nuclear bombs, tell me what some fire and water is gonna do against a damn nuke

[@tonym.8069]

I think a big issue there was not adapting the comics and laying the groundwork, and making sure your writing team was PEAK, but it sounds like becauseM Nights film the OG creators had to pull teeth just to get LoK made. But now thanks to the hype Netflix built up and fumbled, the OGs just got to make the new films hit right and boom, easy money

[@tonym.8069]

​@@skull1161agreed there as well, it literally took the spirit stuff they were building up to and just kinda threw it out the window. It honestly would have been more interesting if it was like, people who could use two elements because mixed blood and the realignment thing, not something that is going to heavily kneecap them and lead either way to them going back in time.

[@nemasisdemarini8339]

@@skull1161 Just so you know, the whole thing of it being mismanaged by nick isn't a rumor. It's fact. The show runners were originally only given one season, so they made it somewhat self contained. But then, when that went well, nick gave them a second season, so they had to rush to put together the story of it properly, before they were then given two more. And the thing that really solidifies the mismanagement is the fact that nearing the end of season 4, nick not only changed the airing schedule, but then also pulled it from TV airing and made it only air online. Say what you want about the overall writing of the show, but the showrunners can't really do anything about an issue with their production, if the upper management just doesn't let them.

[@GaleyRunger]

Can't wait for Aang to get his beard before meeting Toph.😂

[@basil127]

Fire is plasma, so does lightning.. 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

[@tonym.8069]

Yup! And they have science degrees yeesh lol, but no I get it electricity is associated with air or such magic a lot in media. For my writing I went the more sciencey route just because it was interesting how even in ancient times, fire and lightning were associated together (pyr in ancient Greek usually meant fire but also lightning)

[@JazzMaster01]

It's okay. Kyoshi carried the whole show even though she only appeared for like 5 minutes

[@freckled-jellyfish]

Legend of korra is a slay ngl, it's definitely different from atla but I think that's ok in my opinion. I liked that it was allowed to be more outwardly gruesome and the gaangs future didn't feel forced, as in all living long happy lives and dying of old age for example

[@Trecherousbeast]

I genuinely love LOK and feel like it’s kind of overhated. The only downsides in my opinion were Korra immediately getting her bending back (due to them believing they would only get one season), and Korra’s relationship issues lol. The animation and art is great ESPECIALLY in the first season!

[@danterose1015]

The heat and quick temperature change in the air is what causes lightning if I'm not mistaken

[@LeonMRr]

I really can't believe gigguk never watched Avatar. Gigguk, you're dead to me... until you watch the OG, then you're my god again

[@tahkaimartin8050]

My one thing on Korra is that it had legitimate issues that had nothing to do with the more common reasons why people dislike. It's a lot better than people give it credit for and for it's tumultuous production based on how the network treated it, it's a decent showing and honestly pretty vital to the Avatar world. With that being said, even in a perfect world, it wouldn't be better than the Last Airbender 😂

[@oceanicGrimalkin]

Tbh, the live action series shaved off some of the nuance the characters and the setting had in the original. I don't like LoK because the writing lessened in quality (to put it short, they had different writers too), not because it's different. Idk if the two watched the original recently to make a better comparison, but I think this isn't a case of Twitter being Twitter.

[@triggerfairy4070]

S2 was the only season in korra that really sucked, but it haa the most impact in the show

[@tonym.8069]

​@@triggerfairy4070it was a great concept poorly executed, like it would have been cooler if Air Nomads were slowly and naturally coming back, nature healing etc, and that Zaheer was a prime example of any one, even the air nomads can become evil. Another interesting concept they could have done and sorta did is, what if people with mixed ancestry had the chance after the realignment to use two different elements? Would have really opened up some interesting stuff or be a way to explain how sorta mixed elements came about (like lava bending). Basically a lot of promise lost, like it would have made more sense if the Avatar was the equal spirit incarnation of Raava and Paaku, and they were not good and evil just represented more less defined things like nature and culture, light and shadow, male and female, like yin yang actually is.

[@triggerfairy4070]

@@tonym.8069 kinda wished they stick with the water tribe civil war

[@roca7268]

Avatar, especially in its 2nd and 3rd seasons, seems like a series that Garnt would LOVE. Give it a chance, it should be up your alley!

[@elessal]

50% of the original first season was omited. and 65% of what was not omited was heavily modified for no reason. like there was no point from a time contraint nor story-telling point of view. they had far more screen time to perfectly adapt and expand the original season. almost all of the music was new and generic, with them hardly using for a few seconds the iconic songs from the animated show. they added stuff from future seasons, comics and novels that literaly had no place being there. they invented new characters while erasing the original ones. they made the earth king and other earth people dress like as if they were freking arabs or persians. half of the cast was terribly cast, specialy the girls, with Suki and the bounty hunter being the only good ones, even though the bounty hunter looked 10 to 15 older than what she looked in the animated show. they erased sokka's sexism, using woke reasons as an excuse, yet they kept Pakku the same, allowing him to actualy grow as a character, but not Sokka. all this while inventing that Sokka had an existensial crisis and believed his father was disappointed in him, when none of that happened in the show. they made Katara a Mary Sue who mastered Waterbending on her own without any difficulty nor the teachins of Pakku. they wasted Roku, made him an angry idiot and a clown rather than the reserved old wise man he was in the show. aang spent half the show monologuing about the power of friendhip or about his emotional issues, when in the animated show he easily conveyed everything he thought or felt with just a few lines of natural dialogue. this ''adaptation'' had big budget and good CGI, but no respect for the source material, its creators (who abandoned the project), and the fandom. it was almost as bad an adaptation as the Game of Thrones show. meaning that the only people who like it are either ignorant about what was taken from them, are are just not fans of the franchise. just passive consumers. casuals who are happy as long as there is action and good cgi.

[@MontySlython]

I agree about all the points from the perspective of having watched the first two episodes, the music was really glaring especially, why would they use the leitmotif of the fire nation with Zuko's ship and then proceed to not use any other piece of music, it makes no sense. Katara learning waterbending so fast from like one statement Aang made was also extremely eyebrow raising, I want to watch the rest but at the same time I know I'll only continue to be disappointed.

[@ColonelPeppers]

The only characters who don't look their part are Azula and Mai.

[@laosvegas7494]

genuinely loved the live action

[@bgill7475]

Yeah, I loved it a lot. Hopefully it gets even better in season 2 and 3.

[@elessal]

then you are not a fan of the original show. which is okay. you can be a casual. just don't expect us to care for your opinion.

[@MichaelAruba]

A big part of Aang's character was that he needed to learn to balance his normal carefree kid self with his duty as the Avatar. Not in the Netflix show. Sokka was a country bumpkin who has all of his worldviews challenged and changes for the better as he matures and sees the wider world. Not in the Netflix show. Katara is the glue that holds the gang together. Through the toughest times, she's there with an unrelenting force of will and need to help others. This is how she mastered waterbending and, eventually, faced her own darker emotions. NOT IN THE NETFLIX SHOW.

[@takineko]

"Korra's great" you lost me bro.

[@shurngirdleh3936]

These guys are like “I like this aspect of the show” and then contradict themselves a few minutes later by saying they actually didn’t like that aspect… what

[@josephsua7246]

Connor liked Korra? FAT W!!

[@JohnDoe-gt3jr]

So glad Garnt has a neutral approach to the Live Action Show. Now get him 2 bowls of chips and let him watch the og series

[@danchy7_]

It does feel rushed because of the length of the episodes, ironically. Even in places where they keep the pacing the same as in the original, it doesn't work cause it's not the same. The original episodes are 20 minutes each, each with their own tension arc and conclusion at the end. And the original episodes mostly start and end with the gaang camping or flying away on Appa, which helps in showing the passage of time. Here, we put three of those episodes into one, the plots and tension arcs are all over the place and the end of an episode sometimes just feels like returning to your quest givers collecting EXP for 3 or 4 completed quests at once. This is also why it felt very off to me that Sokka made out with Suki, was devastated he had to leave and then 2 days later fell heads over heals for Yue for no reason. It just felt like it happened way too quickly cause even if there's maybe the same amount of runtime between Suki and Yue from original to adaptation, it does feel like only a couple of days passed in the adaptation since that happened only 4 episodes ago (no matter their length) while in the original there were probably like 15+ episodes between him crushing on both girls. It doesn't help that they cut most of the gaang just going to random small villages, seeing them go to sleep and all that, cause it really just doesn't feel like more than maybe 3 days passed in this live action. They need to give the plot more room to breathe, honestly. We need more non entirely plot driven scenes, more bonding of the characters, more time passing. It's so weird but we barely saw Aang, Sokka and Katara bond at all, they seemingly barely spent any time together. Even in episodes when I thought they made certain changes to show them spend time and grow closer, they immediately just split them up again and sent each one on their own journey to backstory station.

[@duzinbbs4784]

the airnomad in the hurricane got toasted alive there, within her hurricane

[@tardybloomer]

i actually did watch the movie after i was done with the show OMG i could NOT make it past 30 minutes. there's less exposition but the Sokka actor just looks like he was in Twilight all over again and i couldn't even take Zuko seriously, and Zuko is my all time favorite actor. No hate to Dev Patel obviously, it was a writing and directing issue. but seriously seeing the movie again just made me have more appreciation for the show LOL

[@datalphalion]

Garnt didn’t watch the original Avatar series. Time to bully him into watching it like we did Emily.

[@CRAZEH247]

9:20 this is what brainrot looks like.

[@sosbrigaders]

It was ight. If they make a season 2 I’d watch, but if they don’t I wouldn’t care

[@Macapta]

They changed it so that Aang didn't run away into the storm, he just stepped out for some air and didn't notice the storm.

[@marcelframbach7952]

Just how has Garnt existed for as long as he has, without ever watching the original Avatar?😅

[@kenaristainton8746]

I don't know why people complain about the new live action, people expect things to be exactly like the original.

[@WoopsieWooper]

full respect to Connor recognizing Korra isn't supposed to be the same