124 Build Episode 3: Fixing my oil consumption problem on my Harley-Davidson 107 Milwaukee-Eight

124 Build Episode 3 better than new! Fixing my oil consumption problem on my 2019 Harley-Davidson Street Glide with a 107 Milwaukee-Eight
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Zipper's Performance 124 Sleeper kit and parts list for my 2019 Harley-Davidson Street Glide with 150 foot-pounds of Tourqe and 130 RWHP.
2019 Harley-Davidson 107 M8 Street Glide Standard gets a major upgrade! 124CI Zipper's Performance Sleeper Kit and more. Harley-Davidson Street Glide with 150 foot-pounds of torque and 130 RWHP! Zipper's Performance M8 124 Sleeper Kit, with a D&D 2 into 2 Exhaust, 472 Red Shift Cam, Thunder Max Tuner and Oil Cooler Fan and a Bandit Machine Sportsman Clutch. Built and Tuned at Zipper's Performance.
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[@gilbertmal6033]

I hope at the end you will let us know what all that $$$ so I can save my lunch money to go there. Another great video 👍

[@roadglide]

Zippers rocks! These are some of the best performance folks in the business Tall. Step by step their reputation is on the line with each build. This is no dress rehearsal. They’ve done this numerous times before.

[@nbt3663]

Amazing the level of detail they use in building an engine!!

[@TravelingTall]

Yes, I was impressed. It was an overwhelming experience. It was like I was talking to a bunch of retired rocket scientist that quit their jobs to build faster Harley-Davidson's! Even with all the knowledge and understanding that these guys had, they were patient in explaining why and what it is they were about to do, without being condescending. It has been a great experience with Zipper's Performance.

[@jerrygaught2597]

@@TravelingTall i herd all the side stepping and making sure they didn't take fault of the engine problems this bike is new. i hope they didn't charge you for any of the repair it should be warranty. i know one thing by watching your show i don't want one. great video. thanks for the time. great looking bike.

[@carlosvillanueva7666]

Thank you for these engine builds videos. These guys are true professionals.

[@mikedanaher3413]

You don’t find that level of expertise and service at all Harley Davidson dealerships. I’m so glad you are putting this out there for all of us to see. Great stuff. 👍

[@bcbsilverhawk8426]

Awesome video. This series is full of useful information. Very impressed with Zippers. Have a Blessed day.

[@TravelingTall]

Thanks for watching, have a blessed day!

[@josephpupino6632]

Great video, the first time I have seen a shop so meticulous and knowledgeable that I would actually consider bringing my bike to have work done.

[@cabby316]

Omg the information is amazing. I would be a big sponge just taking it all in. I'll be asking my mechanic about that oil deposit and see what he has to say about it. Awesome video again Tall.

[@BCS01]

Sounds like you had your engine updates done by pros who take both their work and service for their customer very serious, continued happy and safe riding...

[@TravelingTall]

I couldn't be more happy with the Zipper's Sleeper upgrade. They have a great group of people there. Thanks for watching.

[@kadimsilahtar]

One of the most useful videos I have seen so far. Thank you buddy for your efforts and airing it.

[@thedoty5729]

Absolutely astounding! Zipper seems like the place to go.

[@sean8470]

you buy a 30k harley bike without blinking then need to invest another 4-6k to fix what should have been fixed from factory. ah but you have your dealership network right?? good because you'll need them and harley is banking on that and while your there you can discuss about stage kit upgrades, possible trades, and merchandise....

[@georgeknox]

This is GOLD my brother, I appreciate you.

[@TravelingTall]

Thanks for watching

[@JosDamFotografie]

HD wizards @ work :-) Love to see these kind of vids. I hope HD technicians watch these vids to :-P

[@TravelingTall]

Thanks for watching DutchAirgunner

[@artmchugh5644]

DutchAirgunner the wizardry here is trying to smooth out the fact that his 30.000 bike is a oil using smoking chrome air compressor !!! Plenty of less expensive NON OIL USING BIKES out there ! H-D. Paying more and getting less since 1908 !

[@splodge5714]

134,000 miles on a Yamaha FJR 1300 engine and no oil burning issues. Would like them to take one of those engines apart, probably find it still looking like new.

[@johnsalvi9073]

Good After Market Support, parts and mechanics.

[@mrnolettebn]

Thank you

[@dwightbernheimer331]

Maybe Harley-Davidson would be better off having Zipper's Performance build their bikes for them. Cuz seems the only ones that run correctly end up being brought in there to be built anyway. Just sayin'

[@bfarm44]

Imagine Harley building properly in the first place. You want me to spend 24,000 bucks on something I have to take apart and rebuild before I ride it. Nope, no sale

[@2018NukNuk]

Thanks for the beautiful en interesting video’s!!

[@Thefloatingbagger]

Man this build is awesome Tall. Enjoying it. Loving your channel

[@chrisw3119]

Very good build series and thanks for sharing...

[@jimweagant8920]

Interesting video thanks for sharing

[@TravelingTall]

Thanks for watching

[@robsteal3887]

Great video, can't wait to see the next post.

[@Slartibartfast70]

Good series.

[@andrewshutty3345]

My God, I have seen great con men before, but these guys take the cake, ride your bike and enjoy, it is a Harley for christ sake! You need to be a man handy with tools to own one, I never heard more jiber jabber in my life

[@robertmason8341]

I was thinking the same thing. Poor guy has no idea cause he’s probably not mechanically inclined and has no idea exactly what he’s looking at and whether to believe these guys or not. For instance theres no safe way to straighten that rod while the engine is assembled. Also that cam drive gear is bolted right to the crank, it’s sandwiched behind a hardened and ground spacer and has 25ft lbs torque on that bolt. It’s not flopping back and forth like they showed when it’s all assembled and tight. Not buying the grey crystals coming from oil either. In a performance build, the last thing you want is to add more friction which is what your doing by replacing the oil control ring pack with the larger 3mm ring sets AND going to high tension from low tension rings. Standard in the industry as far as state of the art in ring technology is going to thinner rings (less surface area=equals less friction and less tension agains = less friction =more horsepower (free if you will). You spend a bunch of money for a 124, 128,131 build for more horsepower but then put hp robbing rings in it. Why because it consumes a little oil? If it’s not consuming large amounts and not smoking then I’d rather just pour a 1/2 quart in every so often and have those 3-5hp from the reduced friction. But zippers is good guys not bashing em. They gotta make money. I like their parts, but I just do things a little different since learning a lot building bikes for 30 years!

[@kennethwise7108]

I met Larry at Timonium, SUPER nice fella!

[@s3hooligan]

Thanks for sharing this video. Very educational!

[@goodboyringo9716]

The Harley cam plate and oil pump should be changed out while you are in there to an S&S or other billet plate.

[@jaxwylde2139]

If you have a KZbin channel, having a Harley will provide you with a never-ending flow of content to share. Just film and upload your repairs, engine rebuilds, recalls, etc., It starts when you leave the dealership, and gets really good when your odometer hits 5K miles. From that point on, you're going to have to decide which repair videos you keep, and which ones you delete because you'll have more content than you can handle.

[@robertmanley6102]

Are you including a drive belt upgrade? I'm not even sure they have a stronger drive belt but I've been seeing other videos where guys add power and then break drive belts. Anyway, very interesting vids. The only thing though is that there seems to be some real problems with Harley's new motor. Other vids have discussed the head gasket problems. Good luck with your build and be well. 👍😁

[@pmaint1]

All this work on the top end and not replacing the flywheel I think is a mistake. Even though the flywheel checked out pretty good it's only a matter of time before the runout is out of speck.

[@SuperSynoptic]

This appears to be planned management by the Harley corporation by having the buyer return to correct defects known by Harley. If Harley sold a bulletproof bike, there would not be any room for profit, would there?

[@shawnharper3440]

Are the 3MM rings proprietary to Zippers or is it a Wiesco/Carrillo thing? Now I know my M8 is coming apart this winter, Last new HD ever, oil sucking, grr. runs great, love my RS 468 cam but I have had Shovel Heads ran hard from Iowa to Sturgis that use less oil....

[@bav114]

Hi from the UK. Thanks for posting these videos they are very very interesting. Looks like an awesome build. Enjoy the bike. PS I also have a BMW GS. You’ve got to take one out and see what you think.

[@saddle8bag]

I don't think it has anything to do with the piston ring. If the pistons rings weren't sealing, it wouldn't be able to hold pressure when they blew air in the spark plug hole. It's coming from the in the intake track. That makes sense as that's where HD vents their crankshaft and the oily mess that blows out with every pressure pulse from those coffee can pistons. Mine goes thru the oil too. I'm not really crazy about the vent kits I've seen, so I'll probably just throw some oil in every few thousand miles and use cleaning additives to the gas.

[@TravelingTall]

Thanks for watching Saddlebag

[@neilbrown82]

It's rings...

[@wayneberry1048]

Great video

[@grandpasmountain]

Reasons I don't ride Harley any more. I was really surprised how poorly assembled this low mileage engine was. C'mon Harley! You should be selling engines without all these issues.

[@kylestewart8049]

keep in mind folks this is a AIR cooled motor that is mass produced on a assembly line. the tolerances are gonna have a few thousands of wiggle room. The factory lower compression air cooled design. shouldn’t be compared to a purpose built spec’d out HiGH PERFORMANCE engine build. everything you see here is very common at any quality engine builders shop. no matter if it’s a single cylinder or a v12. it’s great to watch. but don’t trash on the manufacture for having different tolerances. high performance is expensive for a reason!! 👍.

[@AnthonyV82]

kyle stewart Well said.

[@neilbrown82]

well when there's oil deposits in an engine with less than 10000 miles yeah maybe we could say little quality control issues there huh

[@motorcycleden]

Zippers seems like a top notch place! Very interested in this build. I also have a 107 with some oil consumption. What did Zippers say about the engine longevity or reliability after this build?

[@johnnyturbo8460]

How did they "straighten " your connecting rod? Just force it back over? Seems it would bend or compress at the softest part which would probably be the rod bearing. Which is AWFUL. I'M INTERESTED to hear how they "forced it" back in place.

[@TravelingTall]

Thanks for watching Johnny Turbo

[@johnnyturbo8460]

@@TravelingTall you are welcome. Could you please have Zippers answer that? I'm interested to know

[@Tedowski]

Harley uses roller bearings on the big end of the rods. These guys know what they're doing. They have special tools for everything and the rod was probably only off by less than .001"

[@roncoburn7771]

would love to see how you straighten a rod with it in the case

[@Cwra1smith]

How do you straighten the rods without pulling them out? You're not just sticking a steel rod through the pin bushing and twisting are you?

[@Relyroly9269]

I would like to know that too, I would be worried about that for sure maybe zippers could tell us?

[@MaxwellFaro]

Is that your dad with you in the HD hoodie? If so, is your mom 12 feet tall? Cool video my man thanks for sharing. Sub!

[@kimharbison5277]

How much of these deposits can be attributed to routing the crankcase breathers back into the intake?

[@richardlindsey7112]

My question exactly

[@kimharbison5277]

@@richardlindsey7112 It why I routed the breathers out of the airbox and under the bike on my Sportster.

[@stevenjulian1040]

My 2019 same issue Harley says they can’t find the problem now I know thanks bro !!! Hd suck !!!

[@cliveleslie7004]

Who is better when it comes to engine reliability, engine oil consumption honda or harley, I have own several honda motorcycle and never have any oil consumption or reliability concerns, own my first harley davidson street glide and after my first 2k miles one quart oil consumption, oil consumption equal engine reliability it reminds me of ford,Chevrolet and dodge Chrysler product in the 80th and 90th not good for harley davidson.

[@timbuck2066]

Why not scrap the chain and go to a gear drive cam? I did that to my 107, No clacking or whining noise when the gear lash is set correctly. gives you spot on timing and no tensioners to replace.

[@adriankiraly5172]

I was told that to have gear drive, you must have a perfectly balanced crank, which is not always the case with HD..

[@edhernandez8868]

Vaya con Dios Carnal

[@jonnsmith180]

The never ending parade of fools that spend hard earned money on Harley junk and pay to fix the junk.

[@brianzaborowski2724]

Too bad HD didn't take this much care when it was built in the first place!

[@sgibby8817]

Very nice detail. Question about the exhaust system you went with? Did you reuse your slip one and just change the head pipe? Or was that a complete system? Only thing I seen on d&d’s website for dual exhaust was for a twin cam so I’m curious

[@TravelingTall]

I went with the D&D 2 into 2. It's coming up on the next episode. They sound amazing! I'll post link directly to them. Thanks for watching.

[@ragingninja4292]

Larry looks like CT Fletcher

[@mikegroft1569]

Well once again how much does it cost?????💰💰💲

[@AnthonyV82]

Tall seems like a classy guy. He probably doesn’t want to list up how much money he paid. He could have gotten a promotional rate as well for the work he is putting in on this video series. Should be easy enough to check out Zipper’s website for pricing ballpark and/or make a phone call if you get closer to a purchase.

[@fourftr]

Hey Traveling Tall researching the different engine builders on KZbin seeing your from Tennessee why did you not go to Moonshine Harley to get your engine done. They seem to give the customer different options versus others and warranty their work because now you voided Harley-Davidson Warranty

[@TravelingTall]

I heard they do great work. In order to keep my Harley-Davidson warranty it had to be a Screaming Eagle Performance kit, and as far as I know I haven't seen a 124 cylinder kit by Harley-Davidson for the M8. Zipper's is a performance parts manufacturer who sells there kits all over the world, they make and ship parts to Harley-Davidson dealerships and performance shops to install there products. When the opportunity arose to go directly to the factory, and have the engineer that designed the product install it on my motorcycle, I jumped at the chance. Sort of like having the late Carroll Shelby say, bring your Mustang by so I can put these performance parts on it. 😁 It was an opportunity of a life time, a true blessing. However I'm not to far from Nashville I plan to take a ride down there to see those guys when the weather breaks. Thanks for watching.

[@fourftr]

Traveling Tall A big time thanks for replying. You could of easily ducked my question. Wishing you the best. What you did for me and probably others is get the juices flowing on upgrades. I have Stage 1 on my 2017 and strongly considering at least a cam. Keep us posted on how your Glide holds up. You really come across as a down to earth person! Merry Christmas to you and your family Up here in NH my Harley-Davidson is in the shed for the winter. I’ll check out your buddy channel

[@cedriclashar8905]

You did right by going there and it really is rare the engineer who made the PRODUCT is actually working on your bike 1st hand

[@SuperSynoptic]

Are those MLS gaskets replacing the junk composite gaskets?

[@edwardbella3871]

Did they remove the connecting rods from the crank to straighten them.

[@murraycharters6102]

Almost new bike. Harley keeping a lot of good people in work. Amazing that you can pay so much money and then have to pay a heap to get it right. Not impressed at all Harley Davidson.

[@ritrka]

What brand is the cam cog? Nice vid, appreciated

[@guguitata]

Hi Tall after this upgrade done by Zippers ,and understanding that your bike has an engine from a diferent brand, would you motorcycle stiil be considered as a Harley Davidson motorcycle?Just curious .Please let me know. Blessings.

[@Tedowski]

The engine is still a Harley Davidson engine. Only a few components were changed.

[@creigmacc]

Are these systemic issues on the M8? Must be HDs version of VVT.

[@TravelingTall]

Thanks for watching Creig

[@Itsme-mx5tl]

Your that far apart, take the rest of the engine out. Send it to T-Man performance, they fix all these M8 problems including the sumping issue. Check out his videos!

[@guyconnell2250]

Wouldn't external breathers solve this oil in the intake port problem?

[@AnthonyV82]

External breathers would help some, but isn’t the full solution. If oil is getting past the rings during normal running like they keep describing (fairly normal phenomenon with low tension rings as was mentioned) it will make its way into the intake port during the valve overlap period. A lot of high RPM closed throttle decel riding style (for example if you really like that engine and pipe noise after a WOT pull) it will also create high vacuum conditions during the intake stroke and pull oil past the rings more aggressively. So in short, it can be a multi-factor issue.

[@scottschaeffer8920]

How much of this was related to the engine performance upgrades you did?

[@TravelingTall]

I don't know, all I had was slip-ons and an air cleaner. Thanks for watching.

[@Tedowski]

This video was filmed during the 124" upgrade process, not after.

[@dmyers042]

@@TravelingTall , did you use a tuner also? With the slipons & air cleaner.

[@paulhewson4600]

Team Zippers is being very "politically" correct when talking about this engine and the issues regarding the build from the Harley Factory....turn those cameras off and you will get the true story on the factory M8,,,My M8 has the loudest valve train on a bike I have ever had....My 15 year old lawnMower is quieter.....consumer confidence is in the tank,,,

[@bobijutje1]

Guys buy BMW and there is no problem for a long time! I just don’t understand people buying Harley’s and waste a fortune on this ridiculous repairs.... My god!

[@jeffreyrose5709]

How do you like your big motor now

[@TravelingTall]

I love it, thanks for watching Jeffrey

[@prun8893]

Honda Goldwing

[@MerrittW]

Have you thought about using a Rekluse clutch rekluse.com/ Im enjoying watching your build.

[@TravelingTall]

Thanks for watching Merritt, the next video will be about my clutch.

[@lpwright]

First comment 😎

[@TravelingTall]

😁Thanks for watching

[@artmchugh5644]

Oil consumption! ! Bent con rod !!! 10 hours of labor! !! And you paid extra money for this !!!😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄 not to mention the riding time you are losing !!!! 430.000 miles on my 3 ducatis no rod drama or smoke !!!

[@Tedowski]

This video was shot during the 124" upgrade.This didn't happen after.

[@Cwra1smith]

Comparing apples to oranges not a good idea. How comfy is your passenger on cross-country trips?

[@path3848]

430k, I doubt it art