Treasure Island - Shut Up & Sit Down Review

[@SenorTallon]

To anyone watching in 2021, I'm pleased to say that the component troubles have been fixed! The markers are MUCH more visible on the map, the reverse side of the board is a straight brown-and-tan sepia map that any marker would show up very well on, and the compass features a little wing-nut to adjust the tightness, and a very sturdy rubber band in case the pen holder breaks. It's real good!

[@melloguicastr]

Are you referring to the expansion components? Or is that for the base game box?

[@SenorTallon]

@@melloguicastr Oh hello! I love comments from the future! I'm referring the base game box, I don't own any expansions. The markers inside are just fine.

[@peruanopr1]

Good to know. I just bought this game!

[@Jupiterninja95]

But now the downside is it's hard to tell the difference between forests, water, and buildings on the back side lol

[@zunuf]

Treasure island is able to do what so many have failed to before; teach pirates that the real treasure is the friends they made along the way.

[@Shazibee]

"Diamonds or Silver, or Mercedes-Benz, not even the Oceans, are greater than friends." kzbin.info/www/bejne/mXysl36Cfsh2iac

[@AndrewMartinNZ]

Pirates and ninjas can be friends!

[@alejandrorivas4585]

I swear to god if oda pulls that I'll kill im meself

[@PlussGoodFun]

"I miss parties..." ...you have no idea

[@demonicbunny3po]

Yeah. So many jokes that hit too hard now. Jokes that aged poorly despite not really containing objectionable material.

[@Ozblu3y]

oof :'(

[@Callm3sol]

Cole Garland 11:20 thanks for the reminder

[@benshade0]

Same

[@Shot007]

LOL the "foundation of your business is donations and that is impractical when it comes to assessing risk" that really got me!

[@Tiburon8998]

Me too. I had not thought about that, but I could see that being an issue for them.

[@HeinzMcDurgen]

Hahaha, YES! "That got real"

[@tahunuva4254]

It's kinda bunk, though. The foundation of any business is "donations".

[@shiftyginger]

You have not known real fear until you're watching a SU&SD review of a game you've ALREADY PURCHASED (but haven't played) and the first 3 minutes are nothing but compliments about the game. Oh Jesus. Oh god no. This game's actually horrible isn't it...

[@shiftyginger]

Oh god Quinns is getting excited about the rules. They're about to set this game on fire aren't they...

[@shiftyginger]

We're at 10:00 folks and it's still all good news. They're about to mid-review turnaround nuke this game from orbit and make me regret everything.

[@shiftyginger]

Hurray! I'll take it!

[@MichaelB-jw5po]

I feel your pain. I had that exact experience after I purchased Warhammer Diskwars, and then watched the SU&SD review of it before playing it. Still ended up quite enjoying Diskwars though.

[@fy8798]

To be fair, them disliking a game doesn't mean it's bad! They didn't like root, and I loved it. Bought it *based* on their review, even :D

[@TheLordKorax]

How unfortunate that Quinns' third clue was actually a lie.

[@loept26]

Pens that really work well: FlashingBoards Liquid Chalk (Fluorescent Neon) Marker Pen 8 Color Pack Dry Erase (on Amazon)

[@Raveler1]

Your production values have improved so much! The closeup with the scurvy alert was incredibly soft lighting, and the audio quality is so much nicer than your early work. Thanks for continuing to put out great content - and working hard on making it funny as well as interesting!

[@TheSludgeMan]

Teachers pet

[@CarlyArlyArla]

Matt looks good in eyeliner

[@MarkChimes]

Matt should wear eyeliner again in future videos.

[@CarlyArlyArla]

@@MarkChimes if he doesn't...I mean it'll probably have to be an unsubscribe

[@larsgeerts6243]

I was about to say, he looks so cool

[@dangthatscool1]

Everyone looks good in eyeliner!

[@dshannon23]

"Ornate irate pirate stalemate" may be my favorite line ever.

[@mikeyvalley]

The eyeliner was a nice touch. It's that kind of commitment that keeps me coming back.

[@chrislonghurst7249]

"ornate irate pirate stalemate" is gold.

[@korenn9381]

"Based on the Muppets Treasure Island" - that got me :D

[@bigdream_dreambig]

"We were like feral 8-year-olds trying to collect felt-tip pens in a post-apocalyptic world where coloring in is the only thing that could keep us sane." 😝

[@jeremywhite7654]

Welcome to 2020!

[@chasecomfort3940]

The uncomfortable smile cam was a great touch.

[@Bodyknock]

Great review of a fun game. 🙂 They left out in their description what I think might be the most important rule in the game - that if a player searches for treasure and Long John Silver isn’t sure if they found the treasure then they found it. This helps mitigate a good deal of possible vagueness in when someone wins the game. Another interesting technical bit they left out, Long John has two sets of clues he can give, “normal” clues and clues that give less than normal amounts of information. The hitch is that he can only give out the less useful clues if he first gives one of the other players a token that gives them a bonus of some sort like a free action. So Long John has to choose between giving useful clues and giving less useful ones but also helping the players another way.

[@dirkkoenig6122]

Doug Rosengard If there's one weakness to this (not yet played by me) box, I'd say it's the rulebook. I've read it multiple times and had overlooked this specific rule. It's definitely in there, but was described in such a way that I had to jump to a different part of the booklet to read about them before understanding the general flow of play. Thanks for noting it, and I agree that it's another clever way of generating asymmetry in the information the players have while searching.

[@thomasmoore8637]

Deliberately, in Sir Ian McKellen's voice: The Oil Soon Dry, The Adhere is Strong: Are Any and Smooth Surface Can? Write! Have! No Radiation and Attention! To Seal the Cover, Completely, After Use.

[@tommessig2060]

this one wasn't on the radar but now it just might be. excellent job.

[@MyMiniMovieMagic]

So were just not gonna talk about that incredible 1990s PC Ark joke? You guys are in top form here.

[@absol1975]

I bought and love this game, and had the same issue with the caliper. I found a really easy way to fix it, though! Judy twist the bolt -clockwise! It was easy enough that I, a relatively weak lass, can do it with my bare hands easily. Hope that helps!

[@absol1975]

... that was supposed to be "just," not "Judy..."

[@butcheryandbroth]

I'm sort of new to your channel and I just have to say that you guys are brilliant! So wholesome and wonderfully silly and clever at the same time, I'm glad I found you guys I feel at home here. Thank you!

[@alwaysfallingshort]

I'm glad you guys said something about the board's contrast. Both my production and graphic design sensibilities were offended immediately by the hard-to-see markers. Seems like a really obvious thing that the authors should've caught at any one point in testing.

[@radred609]

It sounds like the game would work really well with chalk pens though

[@IamtheWV17]

I feel like a classic parchment map would've both suited the theme and played better...

[@Jhimbob]

I'm surprised Matagot didn't learn from Captain Sonar that the best way is a perspex cover for the map!

[@Clayjarazn]

As a fellow graphic designer, I agree. I guess the game designer felt everything should be bright saturated colors like other board games. But they should make the map sepia color with dark brown lines and shading like a real treasure map from the 1700s.

[@whorod8895]

Always Falling Short yeah. I don’t know if they show it or not but there is another side of board that is much easier to see.

[@tylermeyer9179]

You convinced me to buy it. Played it last night and we had all the fun you described. Thanks for the recommendation I can't wait to show this off to more people. Very unique, I think it'll be a part of my collection for a long time.

[@RichGwilliam]

"Ornate irate pirate stalemate" Give him an award. No, I don't care. That swimming badge, that'll do.

[@thenerdgirl1]

Our compass became loose as well, but you use a screwdriver to tighten it back up and it works again.

[@philwatkins2800]

With all due respect to Paul, your vids have never been more entertaining and professional looking! Looking forward to see what else you have in store for 2019!

[@martinlarsson8947]

Phil Watkins Their production value is far better but Quinns and Paul had auch a great synergy. Don’t get me wrong I love Matt and think his solo stuff is great but I feel that he and Quinns are a bit too much alike to make a great duo.

[@TomasMosca]

that 7:01 production value

[@Psykaze]

I'm torn.... Not about the game, that looks awesome!! I'm torn whether I'm more impressed by the eyeliner or the 'treasure in the drawer'!!!

[@ryanb6503]

My solution to the markup longevity would be to get a clear/semi opaque piece of white plastic and use that. It would probably show up better as well, although you would have to store it separately and not in the game box.

[@spoffette2623]

I’ve been looking forwards to this since I heard you talking about it on the podcastle - even more so now it’s had the video treatment 😄

[@RobertPeacock]

Regarding 3:48, each pirate can only do the clue verification action twice per game.

[@masood8150]

Anyone else replay 7:00 over and over? First time I've seen that as a practical effect, simply wonderful.

[@acn1580]

How i think the conversation about this must have gone: Matt: We'll just put a lamp in the drawer! Quinns: It's going to look rubbish! Matt: No, it'll be fine! Matt and Quinns when they see what it looks like on camera: Holy crap.

[@Roxfox]

First time I saw it was in Pulp Fiction... But yes, wonderfully done indeed!

[@timhorton8085]

My favorite thing about SUSD is you can tell how much quinns loves a game by how goofy he is in the review. Laughed out loud at him looking for his pen jammed in his ear

[@mlucasl]

Best first lie clue... "I have already lied in one of my clues"

[@Keiniti]

Wonder if those silver/golden ink markers can be good?

[@JKT84]

Matt shouting “it’s a family show” in the background got me good.

[@evanwelsh7225]

This is one of my most favorite games to teach to tables (I teach board games as my job). This game is not for everyone but once people figure it out omg it's amazing. It's one where everyone wants to be long John. My friends play in a different way where long John never draws on the board. That's what the players need to do. It causes the players to work more than long john

[@lemiel14n3]

I played this at PAX Unplugged and I had a thought that the themes and dynamics of the game would really shine if you played with real money.

[@TheShadesOfBlack]

Since the last Shut up and Sit Down review, I've discovered the channel, watch nearly every single video, found the podcast, and listened to about 20 of them. Yes I do need a hobby.

[@Egregius]

You mean like playing boardgames? :P

[@kaidite]

@@Egregius You mean getting together with a bunch of friends and take one of your games off the shelves to give it a spin? Is that a thing people do? I thought we were all just collectors and Kallax buyers :P

[@dilupus]

You're not alone. I found their channel two weeks ago when a friend of mine said he was buying a new game. Haven't hit the podcasts yet, but I just finished the last bit of backlogged video about an hour ago. I even have hobbies, a regular game group, and a very busy career. It's thanks to my second monitor that any of this was possible.

[@TheShadesOfBlack]

@@dilupus currently in college for engineering and right now all of my free time goes into calculus because it's not free time. All free time has become calculus time T.T So the podcasts make good companions to listen to as I do more calculus

[@joshuagrahamcrackers]

I've found that the metallic colored ones, especially brass colored, tend to work great for showing up on anything. I don't know if they make dry erase ones in brass but it's something to consider.

[@q-tuber7034]

“leaking clues, like some sort of ... riddle udder”

[@Square_Planar]

Matt's "I miss parties" made me far sadder than it should've done.

[@danielcoleman6685]

Hits close to home

[@peterwalton712]

Hits even closer at the moment!

[@zackpope3917]

"A post apocalyptic world where coloring things in is the only way to keep us sane " hits different after 2020

[@InVinceIble009]

I remember you guys talking about playing the prototype with Rodney Smith at the gathering of friends on your podcast. Since then, I couldn't stand in place and wait to get it. I HAD to have it in my hands! I NEEDED this game that would bring me this breath of fresh air!! And I'm glad to say that thanks to you, I got my hands on a copy from Essen. This was my most anticipated #1 game from 2018, and this is my game of the year so far. Watching your review and seeing you still feel the same excitement you had when you talked about it like 9 months ago just shows how this game is just unique and amazing! Do I sound happy? Can you feel the love for this game and you guys?!! If not, then AAARRRRHHH

[@tubbstubbs.5311]

You're a little odd Vincent, but I like you.

[@underarmbowlingincidentof1981]

just wanted to point out how amazing the thumbnail is

[@colinbruzas8032]

Never been this early. Tip: if you're getting scurvy skittles will cure it. Or like literally anything.

[@milomaher1582]

@@Jindorek if you have scurvy and don't like fruit, I'm sure you would still settle for some strawberries

[@thirdrd0]

Lemons don't contain a lot of vitamin C. Sauerkraut, on the other hand, lots of it.

[@soupwizard]

0:09 I was listening along then "based on that classic" oh yeah that book by that Stevenson guy "Muppet Treasure Island" burst out laughing

[@philbarnett6613]

"Oh... that got real!" Love this review LMAO :)

[@miradrgn]

watching quinns at 14:00 just trying so desperately not to break into a smile for those 5 seconds is, perhaps, scientifically speaking, "the funniest shit in the world"

[@Blue-yk9yw]

this feels like a non co-op version of Fury of Dracula and that is one of my favorite board games so I have to give this a shot!

[@raeelemental7084]

4:27 is so good.

[@SpaceGravy]

The bit at the end with Matt suffocating under the vid thumbnails. So funny.

[@Amateur0Visionary]

If anyone here in the future (or in the FUTURE future) is still having trouble with pen visibility, I'd like to suggest that you try using a chalk marker. They show up well on most everything and wipe clean off of most surfaces as well. Much love to all.

[@pixxelwizzard]

5:16 Had me laughing out loud. One of my favorite reviews of theirs (and that's saying A LOT) and I can't wait to play this. :D

[@stvdagger8074]

The solution to your business foundation problem is to adopt Long John Silver's methods. Point a loaded 18 pound cannon at your "customers" and then ask for donations.

[@natelabine4308]

You two are my favourite gay couple on the internet. I honestly love your videos, and I've maybe played four board Games.

[@JoeShoe1121]

matt's makeup on point

[@SenetTheSnek]

Makes me wonder if you framed it could you continue to use it without the board getting covered in residue from the pens. Now that would be an interesting test to try.

[@besidethebishop]

14:30 When Matt started unbuttoning his shirt without warning at the end there I thought the REAL show was about to start. But alas, no, instead it was just a bit odd.

[@Elnis888]

Yarrr! Another great video! You guys are wildly entertaining to watch!

[@82588LukeAriel]

Very accurate review, also worth noting that the rulebook is an absolute disaster.

[@OviiSmasH]

Loved the review! Can''t wait to play this game. Thanks for the best board game content!

[@tubbstubbs.5311]

Surely then, the board has a sepia "play" side and a nice looking background on the other side. The sepia side also has red outlines of im assuming places Long John couldn't have buried it.

[@fireant202]

I'm worried this game would just be too finicky and easily devolve into a game of "Well the dot was there and your search circle was 1mm to the left so...". There's always competitive people in my group where I worry about this.

[@danieldawes847]

This actually is covered in the rules: "If the circle contains or touches the location of the treasure, the treasure is found!" and then, more importantly, "If Long John Silver has any doubts about the accuracy of his answer, he must declare the treasure as being found." It actually forces LJS to be more methodical when he's hiding it, i.e... knowing that if a pirate searches a part of the building that he's hid it in, it's assumed that they've searched the whole building.

[@rjdek]

Just opened our new copy today, we really like it. They probably saw your review, the pens are much better visible now!

[@heylister]

POSCA marker pens or chalk pens should be good for this. A slightly damp cloth would wipe it off clean as long as the surface is non-permeable.

[@ValkyrieTiara]

The best part was Matt looking around as he fell over at the end when he was supposed to be dead XD

[@Glitch215]

Now imagine one of the three clues about the orange... was in fact not true.

[@cablecallen]

Looks like I need to add another game to my collection, thanks guys!!

[@tinyprints5423]

Did you try chalk markers or dry-erase markers designed for black or dark colored dry erase boards? The ink still is washable, but is a different, more opaque formula. I think it would solve the problem of the markers. :)

[@mattball8622]

A+ for Quinn's straight face at 14:00. Masterful composure.

[@khristienpennanen1810]

I feel like merchants and marauders deserves a play : P

[@dan-gy4vu]

I dont have this game so I cant test it, but maybe use a liquid chalk marker? It is opaque enough that everyone can see the ink. Tho you'll need some wet wipes or damp towell to erase it all

[@kevinengel2134]

Thank God, you're back. I've missed you guys!

[@KenBen603]

First off, Quinns, is that a Netrunner Link tattoo? Second off, hats off to you guys continuing to drive me into the poor house. But when I'm finally on the streets I'll at least be able to make a fort out of my board games.

[@AbeBSea]

How about a black light for visibility with certain markers?

[@MozilloGames]

I looked away for a bit, I turn back and Matt is wearing eye liner.... and looks really good in it?

[@rjtopper68]

Great review guys, I'm visiting London in April and it's good to know, I won't be able to pick up any markers. Thanks. Couple of questions though. How many people have you played it with so far, Is there an optimal number? And what is the time between turns? Is everyone sitting around while you're trying to figure out where to draw a circle? :)

[@traemaze8905]

The light in the dresser! had me dying, Great work as usual

[@Moschomat]

Aye, great Video! My compass also broke. But you can quite easily fix it by tightening the screw. Pro-tip! ;-)

[@joshuaperry4112]

Long John Expansion: whomever wins Treasure Island gets a (now cold) box of fried shrimp!

[@robertchmielecki2580]

Excellent as always :) Are you planning to review Monsterpocalypse, maybe? As a Warmachine fan I'm looking at it with interest, but for some reason it doesn't get much attention from mainstream reviewers online. Even Dice Tower doesn't have a review of MonPoc, even though the game is made in the US.

[@officialgagethepyro5391]

Would it be possible to put a piece of tracing paper over the map and make your marks on that with pencil?

[@tenacioustadpole]

You guys are great. Thank you for the review

[@GourmetAcademy]

So glad "I" donated. (Showed my wife and she pulled out her credit card.)

[@fy8798]

The treasure in the drawer was the treasure that are the reviews on this channel all along.

[@Heimal]

If Matt could play Jack Sparrow in future Pirates movies, that'd be great. I'd actually watch em!

[@FinetalPies]

"Oh that got real" Fuck that got me so good

[@MongooseDoggie]

We lost the ruler on the map more times thatn I want to admit.

[@MrMarcoooooooooooooo]

I can tell you are experiencied!

[@Insanearium]

I wonder if you get yourself a piece of glass the size of the board, if the marker would show more

[@totallynotabot151]

The glass alone would not help, but if you had some kind of frosted liner to dull the map it might work.

[@Insanearium]

The Problem with the liner is the marker would be a lot harder to get rid of

[@milanbrauner6227]

That white board marker poem was amazing.

[@MJ-km2ju]

It's a good game because of it's uniqueness. There is some down time as you wait for people to make decisions. One aspect of the game that they should have addressed is the clues vary in helpfulness. If you want to use the less helpful clues then you have to have given a pirate a bonus type action that they can use whenever they see fit.

[@asierbouzas2679]

You guys are the best sellers of all time

[@whipworks4468]

One of your best, very funny!

[@radred609]

Sounds like the game would work really well with chalk pens

[@nivatiusneulander8220]

So what pens do you guys recommend after your long search?

[@wayward-saint]

You guys are great. Looking forward to a Spirit Island review

[@shutupandsitdown]

www.shutupandsitdown.com/review-spirit-island/

[@DClairRobinson]

Looks like that game needs a light sepia monochrome map, more like an old school pirate map than a satellite image map.

[@vinclash7763]

Excellent video Chaps! Excellent!😄

[@Chamius]

Is this game out of print? where could one get a copy?