Trial Tube - 2 Stroke VS 4 Stroke Fuel Injected Trials Bikes - Montesa VS Vertigo

[@motot3adventure]

The best. It doesn't matter what you know, It matters what you can coach. You both were brilliant!!!

[@TrialTube]

Thank you means a heap!!!

[@jrtwleshgirl]

bought a 301 about 6 months ago. probably the best bike i have ever had. heavier than the rest but the suspension and brakes make up for it. maintenance is super easy. build quality is outstanding and second hand value is brill

[@TrialTube]

They are an insanely experienced brand and build!

[@TheNewRider.]

What are you saying the difference is lb wise between these two ? If I not to late to the party 🎈👍

[@Syncrogreg]

I want lightest and quitest trial bike for my camper van . You got any recommendations? Thx

[@NorthWestEnduro]

I ride past that trials track whilst out green laning in the peaks. Looks great fun!

[@TrialTube]

It is a fantastic place!

[@jr6874]

Both bikes look very capable the 2-stroke has a nice quiet sound to it

[@TrialTube]

Throaty mate!

[@johnnypetro9314]

Which is louder?

[@TrialTube]

One they are trials bikes

[@johnnypetro9314]

I meant does the 2 stroke or the 4 stroke make more noise?

[@TrialTube]

The four stroke seems to carry further, but both of them are under the FIM LEGAL LIMIT

[@OKFrax-ys2op]

Bunny hopping the afternoon away

[@TrialTube]

That’s what we do!

[@Chris_C_]

Dan, if sound was a consideration for riding close to homes etc do you think the 4 stroke was noticeably more obtrusive or similar?

[@Cnmnvvf]

It would be cool to switch and see who could adapt more easily

[@TrialTube]

That’s a good idea will do that for sure!!

[@warrenlange6106]

Thank you for the fun videos. Much appreciated

[@sambrown1779]

Cheers for that. 301rr looked very heavy. But TBH I'd be happy with either 😂😎👍

[@TrialTube]

They are hefty indeed!!

[@hughrobertson-payne914]

Hey Dan, loving your work! What would be the chances of doing a couple of videos using older smaller bikes? I’m just starting out in trials and have a Rev 3 250 (wanted a 200 really) and it would be cool to see some comparisons or reviews done on the older less powerful bikes for us newbies/lower level Clubman riders. Or maybe it’s just me. Happy for you to do a video just for me if necessary 😬

[@hughrobertson-payne914]

For clarity, it would just be interesting to see how you compare the older bread and butter stuff to the newer top kid the range stuff for the benefit of us who have older bikes rather than new 300’s for a bit of variety 😀

[@derrickanderson2783]

You guys are so dope! I love seeing watching you and the bro riding together. And it helps ya'll got the illest bikes lol

[@TrialTube]

Cheers man…

[@richiehall4832]

Another great video Danny, informative, engaging and very well edited as a newbie good to get both 2 stroke and 4 stroke perspectives, certainly have a look for the Sörra kit looks decent, maybe put a link to their website, did they offer your subs any discount codes?

[@TrialTube]

I will ask them! Thanks again and this is one of the older ones for sure but happy you like it!

[@richiehall4832]

@@TrialTube Ive just ordered a race top and pants but ordered fat size hahah, got to meet up with your dad again today when buying a trailer so nothing stopping me and the lad getting out and practicing now. Slowly getting through your videos when time permits and learning almost as much as when riding, keep them coming great content.

[@yoshyoka]

SOmehow I think zou should make a second video in which you two switch bikes. By riding a unfamiliar bike you start to see where the differences really are :)

[@TrialTube]

That’s a good idea! We will do that 👍👍

[@yoshyoka]

@@TrialTube Nice, thanks!

[@grahamwhitcher1454]

Danny you so funny, love your honesty on all reviews

[@TrialTube]

Thanks 🙏🤘

[@k.snyder_812]

I really like that gear might even get me some

[@Syncrogreg]

Is 4 stroke more quiet?

[@TrialTube]

Believe it or not, in the trial bikes their isn't much of a difference...

[@terraman2010]

Yes

[@madeintheusa]

Great video. How do the knee pads compare to S3 pads ?

[@TrialTube]

They are slightly thicker and feel more supple..👍

[@tomberrisford6006]

Looking forward to your nitro review. 👍

[@TrialTube]

It’s coming in less than a week

[@daveast2551]

Happy Anniversary Misters Butler. Here's to another year (at the very least). Cheers!

[@ianmargetts4940]

Blimey, I had sorra gear from Alan wright in the nineties, it was nice stuff then, still looks same now! What comes around goes around! 😂

[@TrialTube]

It’s great and nice people too

[@liamwalker8244]

Hey Danny, cracking video. Do you mind me asking what size kit your wearing from Sorra. Similar build to you and not sure what size to go for. Cheers 👍

[@TrialTube]

No worries my man! I am a XL top and Large pants 🤘

[@stevesmith355]

Awsome footage and content ,i have a 2021 301 RR has your brother changed the gearing on his bike, and what gear did he use on the sections and long rock climb? looking forward to the nitro review

[@TrialTube]

Standard cheating for my brother buddy and just some good old fashioned practice and time on the bike

[@donniebaker5984]

How close did brother come making his four stroke light enough to the two stroke

[@TrialTube]

He has changed so many parts now to lighten the bike and it still way heavier

[@Mustangschweinderl]

Hi, greetings from Austria! Great videos! Regarding Sörra. I was a few times in their Webshop because the price of the kits seam to be very good. Do you know if there are different types of pants? I have a Hebo pant and after wearing the three times there were holes in it, without extensive use…. Not good. You said the sizes are a little bit small?

[@TrialTube]

Hello over in Austria, I know they have new style coming bud just keep an eye out on the website!

[@ccarrigan6178]

Top class as usual 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

[@TrialTube]

Cheers bud!

[@Mustangschweinderl]

I love my Vertigo! 😉

[@TrialTube]

Me too!!

[@billbender2850]

Great 👍 job

[@TrialTube]

Thank you! Cheers!

[@timlewis5527]

Looks like a section set by a 2 stroke rider! Would love to hear your thoughts on the 225cc nitro 200. I've ridden one and absolutely loved the engine.

[@TrialTube]

I am yet to try it out and would be very interested as I have heard great things!!

[@timlewis5527]

@@TrialTube if i was to use it as the basis of a clubman build it would definitely need a flywheel weight, very lively bike

[@TrialTube]

@@timlewis5527 well imagine what my new 300 feels like, certain people said the 300 would be ok for a clubman…??? Sure it would…

[@user-pi9jx3yp6p]

Now we just need a comparison between a vertigo nitro and the new montesa cota 4rt 260r. The montesa does seem more temping at that price and now that its showa back and front. Both great bikes just a pity montesa dont make a 2 stroke fuel injected bike. Then that would be real competition.

[@TrialTube]

Well the nitro video is coming very soon 👍 I think we all wish there was still a Honda 2 stroke option

[@davidevorider2002]

Enjoyed that a lot different than other uploads but still light hearted and fun to watch keep them coming, is there a link to the kit website ??

[@TrialTube]

There is in the description 👍👍

[@hamiam2243]

I would’ve like to see you switch bikes. I recently switched from a four stroke to a two stroke.👍💯🤠

[@TrialTube]

Maybe we do that on our next ones (great idea btw)

[@H0GS16]

Basically a dirtbike with a low seat?, must get one

[@TrialTube]

Trials is so much more than that but, as long as you get involved!!!

[@Simon-df2ku]

both harder to ride than the Epure?

[@TrialTube]

Haha matter of opinions there 😜

[@Simon-df2ku]

@@TrialTube thats kinda what i was looking for. we have a 2 stroke Beta but my Mrs thinks she would do better on the electric bike, i think she might be right. always enjoy the vids by the way.

[@TrialTube]

@@Simon-df2ku well check out my review and they do ride well and very simple to get along with. But take a ride upto Inch Perfect and try one out 👍👍

[@Simon-df2ku]

@@TrialTube already booked in!

[@BazzyPredPop]

Can I ask why are your brothers switched from a 4T to a Montesa and how does he think they are different/ better? Or is this a separate video?😊

[@TrialTube]

He wanted a lighter feeling bike and the Montesa does just that it feels lighter to actually Ride . I’m not sure if it’s lighter overall cost of actually both quite heavy but he said he felt a difference.

[@xopureiron9690]

How do you know if it’s a 2 stroke or 4 stroke

[@TrialTube]

Off the sound 👍👍

[@xopureiron9690]

@@TrialTube ok thank you ahah could you give me a bit of help I got a trials bike last night I switched from motocross to trials but I don’t know how to mix the fuel for trials because i had a 4 stroke before

[@TrialTube]

@@xopureiron9690 what bike have ya had?

[@xopureiron9690]

@@TrialTube Honda Crf250r

[@darrynellis2709]

So what is the bike you absolutely like the best & why?

[@TrialTube]

For me at the moment it’s my Vertigo however I love some of the more classical bikes. They all have character and that’s why they all have their own special place! Hard to pick really

[@darrynellis2709]

@@TrialTube I thought that's what you thought but wasn't sure you'd say. Cheers love your channel 👊

[@TrialTube]

@@darrynellis2709 Well I have just picked up my next bike and it will be coming to the channel soon.

[@hoping67]

I really want to see an older scorpa review,I think my 09 sy250 is amazing however... I'm shite so I'd like to see a competition rider on one? Same for the all older 2 strokes really. Just to see the advances over the years...😬😬 Love the vids by the way 👍

[@TrialTube]

That’s an awesome idea and we do occasionally do the older bikes and I love the SY250. Will have to get our hands on one!

[@hoping67]

@@TrialTube awesome dude 🤙🤙 the logistics of getting some older bikes would be a total dick but really cool,the twin shock stuff was brilliant 👍

[@francescxavierbulto9848]

@@hoping67 I had a 97 Scorpa Easy and then the 99 and they were like riding a paving stone with a drag engine, just look at some Images of the big ball on the exhaust near the Rotax engine. They said it was to tame the engine power? After that I went Bultaco Sherco with 3 bikes 2000/01/02 and they got progressively worse. So I went Beta and wasn’t impressed. I was talking to Martin Crosswaite and he talked me into buying a new Scorpa SY (sales pitch back then) I rode them from 2004 up until 2009 and I was ultra impressed with them. Unfortunately there was a lack of development I thought and it appeared that Scorpa were always content with old style engines. Although the Yam was super smooth compared to the Rotax it just never really moved forward. In all honesty most bikes progression is painfully slow now as we are for now as far as we can progress.

[@obscured021]

I had a 06 sy250 as my first trials bike got it last September, great bike to learn on did over 100 days out and it never went wrong, changed it for a 18 beta factory start of the summer.

[@montesamapping]

Really honest review! Good job. On my channel you can see some tricky obstacles for common drivers like me (not professionals) made with my Montesa 301 and Montesa 300 by Future (2011 constantly renewed through the years). I like Montesa for the push of the 4T and for reliability (one time I completed a trip with injection tube disconnected!). Yes it's more heavy, but also much more stable... and when you launch the bike in the right direction this is a real help! Moreover as your drive capabilities grows the bike seems really light and friendly! Maybe Montesa is more suitable for massive people like me...😉

[@TrialTube]

Hi Giove! Thanks for the great comment and the support for what we do. It is a great bike and we will be making more content as we go along! Keep an eye out for more Montesa Content as we have one on the channel very soon!

[@montesamapping]

@@TrialTube For sure, this is a good news!

[@whitecavman]

Would be good with some GoPro footage for that section 👍👌

[@TrialTube]

We don’t do go pro, they are terrible quality

[@kennethlindahl9206]

Gunna start an argument here The 4 Stroke sounds better I have just started trials with a 73 Honda TL125 now I have 2 TLs and a TLR200 I took 4th in my class at Rattlers Run here in Washington state It was so much fun I wanna get a modern bike now (4 cycle )

[@TrialTube]

Hahaha we love an argument! It does sound better though!!!lol

[@dannyscrimshaw78]

cracking place that

[@TrialTube]

It is indeed fella!!!

[@nicolaswinterstein499]

Team Montesa 🤘

[@richiehall4832]

What’s the weight difference in Kgs between them both

[@TrialTube]

A lot! Lol

[@rafcfernandes]

It had to be the same person with the 2 bikes too

[@AShaw-bd4fy]

Hello

[@TrialTube]

First comment!

[@GasGasChrisTabb17]

montesa all the way!

[@GWMfencing]

How’s the zip? Hahhahhahhahaha

[@terraman2010]

2 stroke is nice

[@TrialTube]

Agreed 😀

[@annasalimi5972]

Dan was in my school he peform

[@jacco_por]

Ha ha ha. You are so funny.

[@TrialTube]

Thanks my mum says I am funny…looking!

[@gronno]

Same bikes and riders but different sections, like a long rocky stream and a slippery rooty woodland. Suspect 4rt would do better.

[@TrialTube]

We will change it up and re-do!

[@РоманРусс-ъ3ь]

💪🏼🔥🔝✌🏼🇷🇺

[@TrialTube]

Thanks for watching bro!!

[@marcmoloney9310]

Dude is painful to watch

[@TrialTube]

Must check out your videos sometime for tips….