Trial Tube - Electric Motion 2022 - HARDCORE Review - The worst conditions to test an electric bike!

[@maxmotoadventures5050]

Just collected mine from the factory in France 🤩 It’s so much better than the 2020 model! Can’t recommend these bikes enough. The regen braking gives you so much more autonomy (if you remember to use it 😂). The guys at EM have worked really hard on this model, build quality is exceptional. Don’t knock it till you ride it!

[@AlpineTreeCare]

Great review as ever. If you love to ride in such beautiful areas Electric Motion is a key to that world.

[@TrialTube]

It’s true as they are so quiet!

[@tjkadar]

Nice review. Really appreciate you going through some deep water sections despite the freezing temps.

[@TrialTube]

I appreciate you watching it! And sharing?

[@tjkadar]

@@TrialTube, already done!

[@martinhall9142]

bought mine this year and it is awesome as a fun bike to play with..HOWEVER if you buy this to compete in trials competitions then BE WARNED. the battery cannot deliver a full trial unless it is in a small area. I have done 4 Scottish events with it and failed to finish due to lack of battery by end of round 3. So very capable but until EM France listens and offers people who want to compete a discounted spare battery then these cannot compete. So get one to play with DONT get one to compete. Come on EM be sensible and get batteries out there for us,,,then you have cracked it

[@SomeTechGuy666]

It is going to be very hard to detect when the motor is doing passive or active traction control. I predict electric trials bikes will overtake their gas counterparts in performance, especially in slick conditions. And it is only a matter of time before someone adds some gyro stabilization.

[@TrialTube]

Woah this is deep and I look forward to that future!

[@SomeTechGuy666]

I wonder how strong the gyroscopic force of the electric motor/drivetrain is compared to that of an ICE drivetrain ? Gyroscope forces stabilize the bike, Pick up a spinning hard drive and you'll see what I mean. I wonder if one could adjust the gyroscope forces up and down with different flywheels on the motor.

[@nosferatusnightmare5962]

More reviews Danny! You are an excellent trials rider. But the thing which makes E-bikes revolutionary is noise. Hill and forest walkers hate the noise of petrol bikes- it's intimidating not knowing where the bike is going to come from in the forest. These bikes can go where other walkers are which has expanded their range and use by dozens of times. For me there is no choice- either be a pest on a petrol bike or stay away from areas where people are out walking- or buy an electric bike.

[@TrialTube]

Thanks dude I am doing my best to get them out! I think you are right about the ability to ride in new places and we live in a special time where both styles of bikes are improving all the time! I hope we can keep the smell of 2 stroke forever. But my better nature knows things may change one day.

[@nosferatusnightmare5962]

@@TrialTube I used to have a TY250. If I have any regrets in this life it's that I sold that bike hahaha. I love 2 stroke but I don't think people have really got to grips with the unbelievable low end power an E Trials bike has. You can take a leisurely 4 seconds to go up a steep incline on an E Trials but on the same hill, it must take a fast 2 seconds on a 2 stroke or it wont go up. No bogging down kicking it 40 times. Hate to say this but the power band on a petrol bike doesn't suit Trials bikes- suits other bikes fine. I don't think it will be too long before they put an electric motor in the front wheel too. Prob already thinking it out already

[@TrialTube]

@@nosferatusnightmare5962 I completely agree and think whatever next steps they take will be big ones! Especially with Marc Colomer at the helm!

[@nosferatusnightmare5962]

@@TrialTube Electric Trials bike is like having an automatic gearbox lol. Generally you have to pick a gear with a petrol bike- say third gear for a slope and tricky to change it half way up. So it has to be fast. Electric, you can start in 1st, go to 3rd or 4th and back to 1st gear. Watched your video 6 or 7 times now going to buy one of these I'm getting all emotional hahaha

[@TrialTube]

@@nosferatusnightmare5962 well in that case my work here is done!

[@javimetalbansheespectra8090]

Great video review.

[@waynesimpson2074]

Could you please explain the tick-over feature, why would you need it if it already has huge torque from nothing? Plus, does it feel top heavy with all that battery weight so high in the frame?

[@TrialTube]

The rock over feature helps the normal Moto trials rider swap over. And the weight actually isn’t too bad. They have lowered it well.

[@sethadams4464]

It’s supposed to help with stationary balance as well due to the rotation of the motor acting like a ticking over crankshaft providing gyroscopic effect. Or so they say 😊

[@waynesimpson2074]

@@sethadams4464 cheers Seth, that's made it a lot clearer for me.

[@sethadams4464]

@@waynesimpson2074 I did also find it helps with the transition from petrol to electric at first. It means you can ride almost exactly the same as an internal combustion engines bike so helps your brain get to grips with it but that happens pretty quickly! Then you start to realise you only need your clutch for building up revs for big steps and climbs etc.you can ‘stall’ the bike but then just twist the throttle and set off again with no clutch input and find grip in the wettest boggiest conditions. I’m a bit hamfisted with the clutch I’m kinda in or out😂 but with these bikes you can just ride on the throttle and concentrate on that. I’m loving it so far.

[@danssubscriptions]

My understanding of the tick over is to introduce and “engine” like noise e.g. lower noise at idle and increased noise when reving. So when you have the clutch in and twist the throttle to load up the flywheel before hitting an obstacle it increases in noise to provide an audible tone like a petrol engine does.

[@mobilewintercamp7515]

Coming from snowmobiles and motorcycles, with all that’s going in the electric direction I have a feeling this sport is a great candidate for a complete flip. I think the give and take between gas and electric is possibly a very easy smooth transition in this platform. A lot less cold problems than a snowmobile. How is the weight difference and balance feel ?

[@TrialTube]

The balance great but the weight difference is noticeable but not uncomfortable 👍👍

[@EssPhour]

I agree, I think if there is a segment that EV's could out perform their ICE counterparts it gotta be in a trials bike, they have the advantage of being able to have a lower center of gravity, and the instant availability of massive torque, and no need for high HP. I am not familiar with Yamaha's or Gas Gas EV trial bikes, but from everything else I have seen I would say Electric Motion is putting out the most advance motorcycle in the entire two wheel market, props to them.

[@EngtecTrials]

The regen lever should be below the handle bar like the valve lift lever on an old Ariel HT.

[@TrialTube]

Good idea!

[@sethadams4464]

I suggested this to inch perfect when I bought mine. More like the thumb throttle on a quad I think would work better. I’m thinking of adding the prb lever to mine as they don’t come as standard you just have the fixed regen above the map switch which is awkward to use.

[@AUBREYTHOMAS1979]

Incredible bit of kit theses bikes

[@bryan26762]

I'd really like to see how they cope with a real club trial. Will the batteries last ?

[@TrialTube]

I am going to document it at a trial

[@whiteelk6995]

💪👏👍what oil do you use for the clutch? Im using atf for em epure race 2021, the clutch doesnt work with recommended 75w oil

[@TrialTube]

In this one instance, I haven't been able to change over the oil personally as yet. Although I reckon if you call the guys at Inch perfect they will sort you out with that answer!

[@markaustin602]

Great review as always, had a 5.7, epure21 and now a 22 all three are great fuss free bikes. The TKO is better for more advanced riding but without TKO works just as well and a lot quieter, horses for courses. I agree a bit more ground clearance probably the stiffer rear shock and I believe revised head angle? We all know a good rider on a TY175 can trounce 80% of modern riders so regardless of the improvements the 21 and even the old 5.7 are still good bikes. Over the period of a Trial kickstarting a bike 50+ times and changing gear 1000+ times does use energy when you finish a trial on one of these puppys you do notice the difference a lot less aches and pains. Keep up the good work buddy.

[@TrialTube]

Thanks dude and really appreciate the support and maybe a share!!???

[@dominicbushnell4092]

Danny - how many hours did you ride on one charge (you said it had 40% left)? Did i miss where you can tell what charge is remaining?. Would it make a 3 hour trial? Thanks in advance.

[@TrialTube]

Easily make it round a three hour trial

[@Manlixer777]

I did 4 hours competition with 33 sections total amd still has left with 50%. Beginner level.125 mode.No clutch at all.

[@TrialTube]

@@Manlixer777 it really is quite impressive and without the clutch it’s is very gentle. 👍

[@abarth595vids8]

Hi Danny. Great video. Do you have the new Vertigo nitro on the channel soon?. Cheers.

[@TrialTube]

I have one right now and it will be here very soon I am making the video over the next week

[@Dundertaker1]

Great vid.

[@Manlixer777]

This is not a future! This is the way to go! I've got 2022 Comp LE which is top of their line. It has 12Kw peak power over 11kW from original. Reiger 3-way rear shock.59 rear sprocket over 57.It is rocket! Torque is out of this world. Maintenance free-lube chain and go! I'm a beginner rider but I can do more things on this one over any of "Petrol" powered bike! It feels that I need less effort to do same things! No fear of stalling engine, especially on steep hills. I'm not wasting my energy on trial competition just by starting bike-count how many times you starting bike over 35-40 section!!! Silence is opening new places to practice(parks, community etc.)

[@TrialTube]

Great comment and thank you!

[@treeturtle9378]

Do you need the clutch to do zaps and splats or does the motor have enough instant power to launch the bike without touching the clutch?

[@thedogandduck1712]

Why is your rear tyre pressure looking so high?

[@TrialTube]

It wasn’t I had 4 psi in

[@chrisb222]

love it but that stock regen button lol

[@petercarlsson6606]

Don't get why you have to rev it, when electrics are having loads of torque from go?

[@TrialTube]

It was a joke lol

[@craigbourne4792]

@@TrialTube prob not a joke, when you have been doing that all your life on bike's it's a hard habit to change lol :)

[@TrialTube]

@@craigbourne4792 also very true!!!

[@fprintf]

Speaking of deep water, are there any risks for absolutely killing this bike if you drop it in the water? With my Beta 2T it will obviously drown but turning it upside down and pumping the water out, and a few kicks will supposedly get it going again.

[@TrialTube]

Well you didn’t see but trying to find deep water I drowned it and it was fine. I was freaked out as it kept going under water!!

[@fprintf]

@@TrialTube That is really awesome to hear! So that is one definite advantage... it is waterproof!

[@TrialTube]

@@fprintf I found out the hard way lol or is it the easy way?!

[@sethadams4464]

I came off my 22 epure race into deep water and drowned it. Picked it up put the lanyard back on and rode away no problems. Also ridden the river at inch perfect from too to bottom several times and it’s never bothered it. Loving it so far.

[@TrialTube]

@@sethadams4464 I was trying so hard to kill it and it just smashed it!!

[@MrTag1969]

Great review as always Danny 👍😁 Still won’t be jumping off me GasGas though 🤣🤣 I feel all that power In 1 gear is awful It’s like having max power form 10/20mm of movement from the throttle Keep up the good work Fella Feetup 😁👍

[@TrialTube]

Cheers mate and I get ya it is weird but I can’t say something is bad if it isn’t. Also I guess they really are their own thing. So I take every bike as they come with a clean slate

[@MrTag1969]

@@TrialTube you always do a great review Danny Look forward to your next 1 👍👍

[@SomeTechGuy666]

How about a head to head comparison ride between it and an ICE bike ?

[@TrialTube]

Do you mean the original ice hell? Or an actual ice bike?

[@SomeTechGuy666]

@@TrialTube Internal Combustion Engine.

[@TrialTube]

@@SomeTechGuy666 sorry my brain obviously faded there…will have too but honestly the ones with the engine will win. Depends how they are judged really

[@SomeTechGuy666]

@@TrialTube Theoretically an electric motor can be controlled much more precisely than an ICE. And it an have better low end torque and "snap". Just look at how a Tesla jumps off the line at a drag strip. I can't think of anything an ICE can do better than an electric motor. It is only a matter of time before these electric trials bikes take over the sport.

[@TrialTube]

@@SomeTechGuy666 I have no doubt, when it comes to the speed of the development these guys have come a very long way in a very short time. Just like the channel 🤣

[@LTBond]

Whens part 2?

[@TrialTube]

We are liking up some of the new projects now

[@gnarlyfox]

This 100% needs to be the future, like from today onwards. Very interesting, the design is lush AF. Eventually the price will come down, unsure how they will present in the 2nd hand market.

[@TrialTube]

Not sure either on that front. (Second hand market) Thanks for commenting!

[@gnarlyfox]

@@TrialTube that potentially is the challenge for folk to get into the sport on E-Trials. People don’t trust second hand digital technology. No one buys a 2nd PC do they. One thing I’d like to see is trickle down software updates. Is the 2024 model is updated, then offering that software update on older models, it should be just plug and play, like IOS .

[@TrialTube]

@@gnarlyfox that would be cool if they could get it to that level. Especially now the hard wear has improved. Imagine a world where a plug in could update a bike as well as it does tech….

[@lewiss66]

There is the next point they need to work on. Noise coming from this bike does not sound as musical as from the petrol engines. Unfortunatly. Not sure if they can improve that though...

[@SomeTechGuy666]

I think it sounds cool. I'm tired of listening to obnoxious 2 strokes and breathing their fumes.

[@lewiss66]

@@SomeTechGuy666 Yeh right! That's why I moved to 4 strokes (beta 4T) but plan to buy the 2022 though not sure at the end if there is a real improvement over the 2021 model.

[@user-pi9jx3yp6p]

Hmmm i think ill stick with my r3. It makes a lovely noise, the only issue with my R3 is ive seen the nitro in the metal and dammmm

[@TrialTube]

I know!!!

[@Mockle07]

Very thorough, entertaining video sir, thanks. Now obviously you said it’s actually really good but a few times you said you were hoping that, essentially, it was going to be shit/not work… out of interest, why were you so keen to not like it?

[@TrialTube]

I just know that the majority of viewers are Moto enthusiasts that love to have a negative view on the electric evolution. But my content is always unbiased and honest. I can’t say something is bad if it’s good 👍

[@Mockle07]

@@TrialTube I totally get that, having just started watching your stuff I have no doubts regarding your honesty 👍🏻 I just wondered why you were hoping the bike would be crap; if there was anything more to it than the usual anti-electric vibe… of which I’m sure we’re all guilty to some degree! I’m not ready for my KTM enduro bike or my Triumph Street Triple to be replaced by a silent alternative but with a bike mad little one I am looking at Trials as a good way to get him into it in relative safety and to teach him the fundamentals, and the electric bikes just seemed like a potentially good option.

[@TrialTube]

@@Mockle07 I can completely relate! For the little ones electric is the way to go and so is trials. No good rider is without a trials background and also by the time your young one comes to the change over to fuel, that may no longer be an option….so start electric for sure 👍👍

[@Mockle07]

@@TrialTube That’s what I thought. Cheers buddy.

[@TrialTube]

@@Mockle07 Thanks dude and have a good Christmas!

[@Bathroombrewer]

A Up Danny Butler, my 7 yr old enjoys trial tube, he wants an OSET, Any chance of an OSET 24R review. No I'm not being a sausage, but OSET type bikes are a gateway bike to the real thing thing. Back to sausages, he likes em grilled.

[@TrialTube]

I will get one sorted out for you no problems! I also have a very good test rider as I reckon I am a touch too big! Tell your young one thank you for the support he/she is a legend!

[@Bathroombrewer]

Danny, Merry Xmas from New Zealand, your reply made my sons day. Many thanks.

[@TrialTube]

@@Bathroombrewer amazing and didn’t know you guys were in New Zealand I rode there a few years back in the UCI World Cup and made the final!

[@Bathroombrewer]

@@TrialTube Good stuff you came & conquered, Santa delivered a 2018 OSET 20R for my son, Let the journey begin!

[@chrisb222]

the 22 is heaps better than 21 -- it took me a while to get used to it cos i was expecting a 21 with tickover - you are right it is a totally different bike

[@TrialTube]

I am glad you agree it’s important people understand that the reviews really are spot on!

[@Jitkoa1]

Can you explain what this "tickover" means? Why does this thing make so much noise?!

[@danssubscriptions]

@@Jitkoa1 my understanding of the tick over is to introduce and “engine” like noise e.g. lower noise at idle and increased noise when reving. So when you have the clutch in and twist the throttle to load up the flywheel before hitting an obstacle it increases in noise to provide an audible tone like a petrol engine does.

[@MullinsRL]

@@Jitkoa1 "Tick Over" enables an “idle” mode that turns the motor at a constant, sustained RPM without the throttle being turned. I just got mine... It helps precision and traction with power delivery at the low end... you don't need to give it throttle and modulate at super low power, such as to hold position or barely creep along. @dan.e, it's not about noise, but it makes noise as it spins the motor at low rpm, so the noise you hear is the motor spinning.

[@gophop]

I want an eduro bike with this tech so bad.

[@TrialTube]

I am sure an MX electric bike exists…so time will tell

[@gophop]

@@TrialTube I want one with a clutch!

[@TrialTube]

@@gophop it has a clutch. A good one

[@clannedtuitert8223]

Try a trs 2022 raga!!

[@TrialTube]

TRS coming very soon

[@paulstewardson3288]

Yep you said it ... "Sorry 2021 owners". EM's are pushing the electric trials innovation at such a fast rate, that last year's 2021 model is obsolete. So when do you spend your +£8000? Let's not talk about the loss included when trying to sell your last year's model. Yes EM , I do believe bringing out such big changes in models every year, does effect your customers resale values. You don't get that with a conventional , (top of their evolution), 2 or 4 strike trials. As you said, a few tweaks, every year. That's good for the majority of riders who buy new to keep, or second hand buyers who know their 2011 models is not that different from 2021, not that they would notice at their level of skill. I've dipped my toes into electric trials. I'm back on conventional bikes. It was a costly excursion. I Will wait till the electric evolution has peaked, or the ACU says "NO aspirated trials bikes". Think I'll be pushing up daisies before that happens.

[@TrialTube]

Great comment and experience insight 👍👍

[@lewiss66]

@@TrialTube Seems they are getting close to their peak. Two ways they can still improve now is noise reduction & battery management with one more gear to improve it's life.

[@CoastlineFishing]

Im loving the content, the reviews are brilliant and informative but my god the little meme clips are annoyoing haha

[@TrialTube]

Haha well keep watching as we are cutting down as we change our style

[@CoastlineFishing]

@@TrialTube I’ll definitely keep watching as loving the content of the vids 👍🏼

[@TrialTube]

@@CoastlineFishing well they just get better and better!

[@davemonday5381]

What so no seat then And that weird tick over sounds like it needs turning down The bike still sounds like a Halfords electric scooter.

[@TrialTube]

Obviously no seat! Also it’s electric. Suppose we could get an engine noise like Porsche have done…

[@davemonday5381]

@@TrialTube to be honest I have a 911 not the best sounding engine to be honest. It sounds like loud beetle. My kt250’s got a seat. But it’s also got a engine. These new fangled gadgets. It still sounds like my little girls electric scooter. But to be honest. I’m probably just jealous of your riding. If I’d attempted that I’d still be in the X-ray department of A&E I enjoyed your blog.

[@df9834]

The development on electric bikes from all sports is insane. I think in the next 3/5 years. There going to be hard to ignore, And not think about switching to them. No oil No petrol. Yep I No there’s Not much noise either. But they can be made to match and better most normal engines in bikes. I No there not the same as a petrol bike. But try one and tell me your not impressed!

[@TrialTube]

I was!

[@bionysos41]

👍⚡️

[@TrialTube]

🤘🤘

[@sambrown1779]

Great test Danny 👌👌😎 Can't bloody wait to get an EM race. Hopefully Santa comes through with the goods 😬🎅🤷

[@TrialTube]

He is the man when it comes to bikes!

[@davidevorider2002]

Brill as alway and that’s a great bike too

[@TrialTube]

Cheers

[@DavidBryantsTranscendent]

Bro... Use two fingers... 🤣🤣🤣

[@TrialTube]

Even more important just use one!

[@DavidBryantsTranscendent]

@@TrialTube out of curiosity... Does it do the same thing if you're using the front brake to do front wheely stunts and hooky stuff's? 🤔

[@rainerzufall1521]

electric motion is the worst thing that can happen in the sport of trials. It could possibly ruin everything

[@AlpineTreeCare]

Its the one thing that will keep the sport alive! Take yourself out of the equation and think of generations to come.

[@GTXgb-gt8lz]

How would it do that?

[@rainerzufall1521]

@@AlpineTreeCare This is true my friend but formula 1 and formula E is a whole different world.

[@TrialTube]

Maybe just try and keep an open mind

[@rainerzufall1521]

@@TrialTube U are right

[@yoshyoka]

Hey! You forgot the three things you love and hate!

[@TrialTube]

Didn’t worry I have a part 2 haha

[@yoshyoka]

@@TrialTube :D Perfect!

[@alessandrolux9349]

Parli troppo!