Triang Hornby XO3 O4 motor service guide

A simple how to for servicing Triang/Hornby X03/04 type motors.
These simple robust motors don’t need a lot but this simple service shows you how to keep them in tip top condition.
Never ever use anything abrasive on the commutator, this is made from delicate thin copper and if you scratch it up, it will wear out faster as well as wear your brushes.
Silky smooth is the key.
There is a fuller guide to re-magnetising on my channel.
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Music: Odyssey High by Kevin MacLeod

[@fonepixer]

What a joy : Simple instructions without 30-odd minutes of tedious yapping...

[@MikesMovies]

Thanks very much, glad to help :)

[@ChapelEndJunctionUK]

I may be getting on in years , but as a beginner to this hobby videos like this can give people like me extra confidence to tackle these jobs . Thank you ......Peter

[@MikesMovies]

wow Peter that is really rewarding to hear :) They are easy to look after, just ask if there is ever anything I can help with

[@ChapelEndJunctionUK]

Will do thanks .

[@timhoward7037]

Thanks a lot. Just got a non-runner going by following these steps. Motor now working a treat!

[@MikesMovies]

Great news

[@Wulfbear99]

Just received this loco today in need of a service so this was ideal thanks for posting. Subscribed!🙂

[@MikesMovies]

Glad it helped, lots more over on Model Railways Unlimited now

[@Tobeshadow]

Many thanks, this was super helpful in servicing some of my old locos!

[@MikesMovies]

That is so good to hear, keep in touch over on Model Railways Unlimited

[@thequietestengine]

Just wanted to say many thanks to you for your help : > My non-runner is now a runner. Still need some work to be done, running is juttery and jerky, but it's turning wheels under its own power. Thank you so much once again ^^

[@MikesMovies]

That is splendid news, happy Christmas

[@thequietestengine]

@@MikesMovies And happy christmas to you and your loved ones :>

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[@111greatbear3]

I've been looking for a video like this for ages

[@MikesMovies]

Glad to help, lots more over on Model Railways Unlimited now

[@111greatbear3]

@@MikesMovies got my Tri-ang Jinty R52 working again today after 13 years of being a non runner

[@stevenhollands464]

Hi Mike. Not an option I had considered, but worth a try. I did think of conductive paint, but thought it just would not work. at all. I will get some and report back. Thanks for the heads up-------------------------Regards Steve.

[@MikesMovies]

Good luck, let me know

[@WWIIREBEL]

I always use a fiberglass polishing pencil to polish my commutators. I Never have an issue with wearing out the metal surfaces with them.

[@MikesMovies]

Not a great plan as it makes lots of micro scratches that wear teh bruishes faster and build up dirt more quickly

[@graham76man]

Mine was burning up on the slot. Cleaned it with a tooth pick and it cured it completely.

[@MikesMovies]

Excellent news, good old motors

[@SMTMainline]

Vary well done! was the motor ever involved in any heat related accidents? it looks a bit burned in places.

[@MikesMovies]

Many thanks indeed. I don't think it's been overheated, but its one of the older motors so is just showing its age :)

[@stevenhollands464]

Hi Mike. The avenue I am considering is exactly as you suggest. I have tried some brushes for power tools, even those with a copper coating, but to no avail, so now perhaps I shall try copper plating the carbon myself to get something that will solder. Regards Steve Hollands.

[@MikesMovies]

Hi Steve, what about something like this? www.amazon.co.uk/Conductive-Wire-Glue-Paint-Soldering/dp/B00SRIITQ4

[@abahamun]

It's very goods..

[@MikesMovies]

Thanks, please follow us over on Model Railways Unlimited

[@krazytroutcatcher]

I’m here because I almost burned out the motor. Although I do give the motor an occasional service, I have just discovered the coating on the outer iron core bit to be flaking, I’d left the loco running, it had come to a halt and when I returned it was sat there buzzing away. The coating had come loose and jammed itself between the frame and armature. I have cleaned the rest of the coating off the iron cores and given them a very, very thin coat of Araldite, it has to be thin, otherwise it bonds the armature to the frame. Anyway, it’s ok now, up and running again. I can’t do a resistance check as yet, I don’t have my meter with me.

[@MikesMovies]

Sounds like you have done a great job

[@bernardprice8316]

really helped me thank you i have two one does not run well and is black on the front of the windings the other spins really well and looks clean but the worm has a lot of back and forward motion looks like it might be a missing part problem as i cannot see the front oil pad it is not there and it loock the loco up when fitted

[@MikesMovies]

Hmm, are you on facebook by chance? if we could see a photo it would be easier to help?

[@bernardprice8316]

i am on facebook and just uploaded a couple of pics i will say i am not that fantastic with facebook to be honest

[@MikesMovies]

Look up the Non Digital group, say I sent you, I'll look out for the photos

[@MikesMovies]

Here is a link facebook.com/groups/NonDigitalModelRailwaysOldSchool/

[@bernardprice8316]

have posted on there now two different motors

[@stevenhollands464]

Hello Mike. Fascinating video and have learned much from this and others. Many years ago I recall being able to replace the small carbon pad located on the motor brushes, as they are just soft soldered, but sourcing the carbon cubes, or anything suitable is hard to do. I also have a large collection and the need to replace brushes beckons and at commercial rates is going to cost a bomb. Any thoughts on where one could source carbon cubes that would do, even if they are a bit oversize? Kind Regards Steve Hollands.

[@MikesMovies]

Hi and many thanks for the kind comments. I am over on Model Railways Unlimited now, your question is one I am considering myself, I think it will be a case of carefully selecting something from China and cutting them to size www.google.com/search?q=carbon+rod+for+motor+brushes&tbm=isch&ved=2ahUKEwiDh_j1sZnrAhUD-4UKHX2dAMQQ2-cCegQIABAA&oq=carbon+rod+for+motor+brushes&gs_lcp=CgNpbWcQAzoECAAQQzoFCAAQsQM6AggAOgcIABCxAxBDOgYIABAFEB46BggAEAgQHjoECAAQGFDs3wJYirsDYK2_A2gAcAB4AIAB7wKIAfcNkgEGMjcuMy0xmAEAoAEBqgELZ3dzLXdpei1pbWfAAQE&sclient=img&ei=TdQ1X8OsKIP2lwT9uoKgDA&bih=907&biw=1680#imgrc=CQfIVs8qUq9d1M&imgdii=SbmH-47TJqFnMM

[@timhart6637]

Hi Mike nice video I have some old Honrby model locos from the late 60's like the ones in this video. Can they be used on DCC layouts Cheers

[@MikesMovies]

Hi Tim, yes many have done so, it involves insulating them etc. Check me out on Model Railways Unlimited

[@baltinhas2]

Hey .. GREAT video. I am servicing one like that, but i´m struggling with the brushes that have a separate carbon from the metal part and i am not getting a way to could solder them again together. Perhaps you know a way to do it!!

[@MikesMovies]

That's an age old problem, I think there are some conductive glues you might try~?

[@bernardprice8316]

thought that last loco looked familar 3775 on tender have that as well as the 47606 jinty both from my childhood bit worse for wear now unfortunately mind you 50 years i must of had them in fact think it was an uncles set before i got my destructive hands on it

[@MikesMovies]

LOL well done Bernard, might we see yours in action one day? Thanks for subbing to my channels means a lot

[@hawthornvalley]

Hi Mike, just subscribed. Do you have a video on adding DCC to these motors.

[@MikesMovies]

Hi and thank for the sub, I am a dedicated non DCC man sadly so can't help. Much more over on Model Railways Unlimited.

[@islandmum10]

Thanks for the video. Very informative. I need a new set of brushes for my motor off of a Tri-ang T.R 2335 steam engine. Any Ideas? Thanks again.

[@MikesMovies]

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[@petert9749]

@@MikesMovies try Peters Spares

[@burtonfootballer5408]

Can you actually remove the spindle and wiring loom on these motors. I have stripped the motor down but the spindle still seems trapped between the front and back. I have 2 motors that the wiring has gone so they are shorting but I have one good motor but the brush arm holder has broken so want to canibalise and make one good motor

[@MikesMovies]

You can certinly strip them down, required to remove the worm gear first

[@gerardmccartney3186]

My bogie was running fine but now shorts out the track. I can't see anything that'd be causing it. Any ideas?

[@MikesMovies]

Hi, hard to say without seeing it, send me a picture over on my facebook group facebook.com/ModelRailwaysUnlimited/

[@Mcsterl]

Hi Mike, why does the red insulator shield the second of the brushes? I know that sounds a stupid question, but if you could explain the setup to me that would really help

[@MikesMovies]

Hi, The body of the motor and so therefore the top brush retainer/spring is connected to the chassis of the loco and forms the return path for the current, therefore one of the brushes needs to be insulated from the spring retainer and takes its supply from the wire that comes from the loco pickup plate.

[@Mcsterl]

@@MikesMovies Brilliant thank you. I'd got it into my head that the brushes formed two points of contact going "in", but that is on reflection nonsense, thank you for the info, head hurts less now haha.

[@charlie1872]

Hi Mike. I know I am seven years late but where can I get one of those remagnitizers?

[@MikesMovies]

Chap by the name of Roy Dodd.

[@Lofty592]

Type 7 motor replacement

[@andyrussell7506]

Some of these motors dnt have the oil retaining pads

[@MikesMovies]

Indeed not, but its well worth fitting them, we used to use some string sometimes

[@jeanmcginlay2363]

Awful music!

[@MikesMovies]

Thanks glad you enjoyed