(121)The USS Crossfield (TOS Version)

[@blindscience1701]

this version of this class, looks lovely and great on the eyes. It also got rid of the missing section. However, I still want to cut an earth's Pizza with it. ~Tellarite Diplomat

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

LOL

[@BirthquakeRecords]

The crossfield shape actually kinda works great in the TOS style

[@kryptoniankaiju]

Any TOS design is so pleasing to the eyes.

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

I LOVE TOS era designs :)

[@kryptoniankaiju]

@@TriAngulumAudioStudios Me too. And the refit designs.

[@artemisiatheta7549]

I really do enjoy these videos. One thing that I found interesting is that the Crossfield-Class looks like the IDIC made into a ship.

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

Thank you so much :)

[@stevenvanfossen3780]

I agree. I kind of thought the same ever since Discovery premiere. It's great though in my opinion

[@wastedproductions45]

The Crossfield Class is pretty much a redesign of the concept ship that was proposed for an unmade Star Trek movie from back in the 70s

[@The1ReviewBoard]

I love the TOS version of the Crossfield class. The USS Crossfield looks just like the Ralph McQuarrie and Ken Adam concept.

[@timjerrom7173]

Love it "again" Tri, hope we will see more UFP starships "new and old" in SNW! They do have the budget this time :)

[@kyleking284]

What a FANTASTIC model I'm really gravitating to the delta shaped hull! It's amazing how some of Matt Jeffries early renderings of the Enterprise has taken a life of its own wonderful video as always! Thank you so much👍❤🖖⭐

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

Glad you liked it Kyle! And you're welcome!

[@georgesulea]

Good video, good story. A dedication to a very interesting class of ship.

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

Glad you enjoyed it George, Thanks :)

[@dixievfd55]

The model was originally supposed to be Kirk's refit connie and also makes an appearance as one of the destroyed ships at Wolf 359.

[@JohnSmith-bk9iz]

It also show up in Space Dock in ST III

[@MrThomasCWest]

Stop me if I'm wrong, but it seems that the Crossfield class is based on concept designs for the Phase II/TMP refit of the Enterprise. If I remember from the visual encyclopedia, the designer for the refit had designed/helped design the Star Destroyers from Star Wars, being stuck on triangles.

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

You are correct!

[@jefferyyoung2580]

I love the star trek first uss discovery 😍 design

[@grimreaper6557]

I like this version better then the discovery version just saying =)

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

Well of course, to each their own ;)

[@Ljordan093]

Not bad. No bad at all.

[@theturquoisedream9244]

Yes, absolutely, I completely agree with you.

[@philly83]

I like rewatching these videos

[@majinjones4565]

I really like this design. It would look even more impressive with the connie refit lines, windows, torpedo bay and nacelles. Video and story fantastic as always.

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

Thank you, and unfortunately, Im limited by available 3d Models!

[@viperdesilva4173]

Nice to see a TOS version of one of the Phase II prototypes, great video

[@MaxYAVIN]

You could also see the TOS Crossfield as a kind of cover up story for it’s suddenly disappearing sister ships.. 😊

[@williammay5300]

RIP Sally Kellerman

[@charlestaylor253]

She looked so hot with silver eyes...😁

[@jefferyyoung2580]

I love the old one

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

By Old do you mean the TOS Version?

[@Achilles483]

Great video! I’ve never been a big fan of the Crossfield class but your narrative was very well done and engaging. Great job!

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

Thanks so much, glad you enjoyed it :)

[@stevenewman1393]

🖖😎👍Very cool and very nicely well done and well executed and informatively explained in every way and detail indeed 👌 .

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

Thank you kindly!

[@barrybend7189]

Shame this and the 2016 teaser design aren't in STO. Or the fact this version isn't in SNW using Connie parts.

[@elcowabungahe-man6156]

My friend I love your videos Gene Roddenberry will be proud continue and Live Long and Prosper 🖖

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

Thank you kindly, that is a HUGE compliment :)

[@outofstepwithreality]

It would be neat to see a refit version of the USS Crossfield.

[@anthonylowder6687]

This design reminds me of the Ariel class shuttle carrier

[@etaeleifi]

I really like your TOS design.

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

Glad you like them, Thanks :)

[@DonDonP1]

Brilliant!

[@SchardtCinematic]

I remember when I first saw Raplh McQuarrie's concept art in my Phase II book. My initial idea was that it would be a mile long just like the original Star Destroyers. Of course the Enterprise D took up that mantle as a much bigger starship. But still not as big as an original Star Destroyer from Star Wars. But Ralph did design both.

[@user-roninwolf1981]

From what I remember, the ships that were closest in size to the Imperial 1 Star Destroyer were the Romulan D'Deridex Warbird and the Jem'Hadar Dreadnought Carrier (not to be confused with the Jem'Hadar Planetary Assault Ship that is 3x the size of the Jem'Hadar Dreadnought Carrier), the Kazon Predator-Class, and the USS Vengeance from Star Trek Into Darkness. The Narada and the Voth City Ship were each roughly half the total length of the Executor.

[@terranempire2]

I see the Crossfeild herself though my mind’s image is based off the Discovery version. Serving through til the 24th century. As a flying Area 51 ship. Her and maybe a small number of siblings serving to develop, test and design new technologies as a flying laboratory. This would give it a different mission set than Oberth or any of the other ships in the fleet. Even Saru says something to that effect.

[@drowatlam87]

Isnt this the ship model that they were going to use for Planet of the Titans before it was scrapped?

[@stevenvanfossen3780]

Looks really cool. Wouldn't it be a nice design, if you turn it upside down &alter a few pieces

[@dominik8005]

WOW a Awesome! Modell

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

Thanks! :)

[@neves5083]

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAHHHHH Love it

[@johnmogavero8156]

Love it !!!

[@johnbockelie3899]

I actually like it.

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

It's a fun design!

[@everettjohnson9374]

Very nice video!

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

Thank you! Cheers!

[@ROA_Offical]

Amazing video as always!i love it how we can get the early design history as well!can we please see a video like this on the Poseidon class or the endeavour class as you have made a special presentation on it but not a video like this on it and I’m curious about the classes details, and may I please request the Poseidon class as it’s always fascinated me !

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

Thank you so much, and both are on my to do list :)

[@JeffBreyer]

An interesting story. I am not sure if I like the TOS aesthetic with the Crossfield class or not. I don't hate it though. Another great video.

[@pdbouie]

Man the visuals on your channel are awesome. What 0rogram are you using to do these? You definitely got the skills and vision of the future.

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

Thank you so much, and I use Space Engine :)

[@corywilliams2255]

This is most definitely Ralph McQuarrie's initial preproduction redesign of the U.S.S. Enterprise for STAR TREK: THE MOTION PICTURE (which is what I said when I first saw the teaser for STAR TREK: DISCOVERY). I like what you've done with it and, as always, appreciate the thought and creativity put into your presentation.

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

Thank you so much, and it's definitely based on the McQuarrie design so far as Discovery is based upon it :)

[@trekicb]

This is how DSC should look. A great TOS version of the Discovery.

[@Atticus1701]

Episode for thought.....???? Why older ships like the constitution and miranda classes have perimeter(outline) shilding, but the ambassador/galaxy era ships have bubble style shields. But the sovereign class returning to the perimeter(outline) style as seen in nemesis.

[@nicholasbusic815]

I'm going crazy trying to figure out the song you use in the opening! Would you mind shedding some light on the matter?

[@02ujtb00626]

Can we do a "Does that make sense" with the Oberth class?

[@flyingfortress15]

Did the enterprise come before or after this ship?

[@Atticus1701]

Nice toss up to how the discovery ended up in the future. Lol

[@MikemfPanik]

So to solve the holographic system issue, they used a hypervisor? Genius

[@armagosa1]

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[@neon_lavander]

My one complaint is the deflector dish, just like the discovery design it looks very out of place and I don't think it's a necessary addition, as far as I can see, the crossfield class is first and foremost a workhorse cargo ship with its huge cargo bay (classified propulsion aside)

[@EugenioAngueira]

This was awesome! Please, continue to imagine stuff like this!

[@sarreqteryx]

This is a perfect TOS version of the Crossfield, but there's no way the Discovery or Glenn (as we know them) were of it's lineage. I still say Discovery, and Enterprise before, are on a separate timeline. One created by the events of First Contact, as well as Voy: Future's End (and a few others), where Earth's technology was radically accelerated by both the timeship landing in th 1960's, as well as the presence of the Enterprise E during the Phoenix's final construction and launch, then later the Borg, after they were (re)discovered in the Arctic. Why would Zephraim Cochram suddenly go from a rocket based design to a saucer out of nowhere? while this is the Crossfield class in the original Prime timeline, the Discovery and Glenn (and every other starship class introduced in the 1st 2 seasons of Discovery) are part of the new accelerated timeline, and descendants of the NX-01 and Columbia classes, rather than any ships actually in the original Prime timeline at the time (the XCV-330 by chance? it does look like it's directly inspired by Vulcan ring ships). I think this would better explain the new Klingon design as well, actually. in the Prime timeline, the NX-01 never helped cure the Klingon's out of control genetics experiment, and the Klingons gave up on their genetics experiments until they could fix it themselves, so those are the Klingons we see in the original series. Whereas, in the new timeline, after Soong helps fix the original experiment's issues, the Klingons keep on modifying themselves, until we have the Klingons we see in the 1st season of Discovery. It would also explain how they were able to so thoroughly modify Voq into Ash Tyler.

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

Except you are wrong about this... The question of timeline was answered already by those who own Star Trek... It IS the Prime Timeline, and that is that! It doesnt matter how anyone feels or thinks or wishes... So to continue to put forward these thoughts, after 4 Years of being told the truth, is just a waste of time and energy!

[@sarreqteryx]

@@TriAngulumAudioStudios I'm aware what Paramount likes to claim, and I'm not saying it's not A Prime timeline, but it's not THE Prime timeline, I actually call it the Prime Beta timeline (at present, I'm still revising things). There are way too many inconsistencies between THE Prime (Prime Alpha 0) timeline and Prime Beta.

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

But it is THE PRIME TIMELINE, not a Beta Timeline, THE Prime Timeline. You have no say over that, you are just a fan with again wishes, and if wishes were horses, we'd all have stables. They don't "Claim" anything, they dictate, as they are the only ones that can! The only "claiming" here is being done by you, and again, you're just wrong. So you can be stubborn like a Flat Earther, or just accept the facts are they are, and move on... As to inconsistencies, only visually are there really any. Canon, the events themselves, are absolutely fine. So you may not like it, but it IS what is the truth, and after 4 years, it's time to get over it! The majority of fandom is sick of the constant whining, and I agree with them. Just like TMP, where everything was visually updated, So too Trek has been once again. And visual updates dont change the Timeline or the fact that Paramount has told us it IS the same timeline as all other Trek Shows! Roddenberry himself was once asked about the changes he made to the Klingons for the Motion Picture, by a fan at a convention I was at. He paused for a moment, looked up and said, what change? That's the way the Klingons always looked, it's just that you couldnt see it before. And if that logic is good enough for the Creator of the Entire Franchise, it's good enough for us all. I look at every Trek Show as a dramatization of the events that took place, not actual footage of those events. That way, any visual inconsistencies don't matter at all. So I suggest you do the same, because you've lost that particular war, and are just wasting valuable time with that nonsense! Take Care!

[@matthewsalazar3575]

This really explained why there were 2 variants of the Crossfield Class. I was originally trying to think of which came first...but you show a simultaneous build...which makes total sense. And its easy to see how both variants are related. Love the TOS Style. It os so true to the design aesthetic of the era...although so far the Discovery-A is still my favorite. You also explain why we don't ever see or hear about the Crossfield design or the Spore Drive in any Star Trek series. Which ties it all together rather nicely.

[@TheCastellan]

IF this would have been what we'd get in the series, I'd actually like it.

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

Somehow, I doubt that :P

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

PS, your comment you tried to post was caught by KZbin and deleted by me for including links. That is against Channel Rules for obvious reasons.

[@kurumachikuroe442]

This version actually looks good! I can see this flying side-by-side with the 1701 on ESD

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

You and me both :)

[@mdjmurray]

Looks way better than the Discovery version. I get the need to modernise it, but there’s no need to go so far as they did in that show.

[@ericmadsen7470]

I like the TOS Crossfield version. An updated version of the OG Discovery.

[@superbear4227]

Would have loved to see a TOS movie refit version as well. Looks good!

[@jonhunter4187]

much better

[@scottgardener]

Interesting model, though in my head canon, I use the concept rendering from 2018 for the TOS prime timeline, with the 3100s refit looking identical to its Discovery refit.

[@Dawnspell8]

Wasn't this on 5 days ago, TriAngulum? If you need time off, just say so!

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

Huh? What do you mean?

[@Dawnspell8]

@@TriAngulumAudioStudios It just popped up on my feed an hour ago as if it was a new episode. Very surprised by it, as I enjoy your work and creativity.

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

Oh lol, well youll have to talk to KZbin about that, not me ;) Maybe they think that YOU need a rest? :P

[@Dawnspell8]

@@TriAngulumAudioStudios Unlikely! I write as a hobby and the other SyFi channels just regurgitate the facts. I get a kick out of the story! So, I'll be right here for your next. By the way, has anybody done anything on the First Federation ship, the Fesarius? Seems right up your alley!

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

Not as far as I know, but I too have already thought of this idea and have been attempting to get a 3D Model... Sadly, none seem available and 3D modelers seem uninterested in creating one due to its difficult nature... Rest assured however, that If I can get my hands on one, I WILL do a story about it ;)

[@daviddyster4145]

I highly doubt that the Crossfield wouldn’t make it in to the TOS era. They did bring the crossfiled class as the Glen Class in 2410.

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

Huh? What do you mean?

[@daviddyster4145]

@@TriAngulumAudioStudios with the loss of Discovery, they would probably decommissioned the class by Star Trek 4 The Voyage Home.

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

Sorry but you're wrong on all fronts, including your original, now altered comment. First, Star Trek Online, as Im sure you know, is NOT canon, and thus nothing in it can be displayed as fact. It's actually ridiculous to think that the Glenn Class would even exist in Trek reality as it is clearly a cash grab by the game... Second, Star Trek III which takes place shortly before Star Trek IV, shows a Crossfield Class in Spacedock. So it did in fact survive the TOS Era and made it all the way to 2286... And that's canon... So saying by 2290 it was decided to decommission the class is very reasonable!

[@daviddyster4145]

@@TriAngulumAudioStudios ok, but I do like the designs in the game and love to see them make their way to a Trek show and be official canon.

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

Glad you love the design, but doubt that it will ever become canon!

[@exilestudios9546]

I get the feeling the cross field design was phased out after the events of discovery season 2.

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

And yet it wasnt, as In Star Trek III it can be seen in Spacedock ;) So your feeling is incorrect! ;)

[@doc_havoc00heavywing37]

Needs a beefier neck and the saucer drawn back from being so far forward

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

Well you cant please everyone

[@joeswanson733]

have you guys seen star trek discovery season 4 where they're taking on something that's 5 lightyears across and is really nothing more than a space shovel and burnham/discovery defeated it? and they've left the galaxy going to look for who made the shovel. wouldn't this feat of burnham/discovery put all the other trek show/movie ships/crews to shame?

[@woogha]

They haven't defeated it yet. Her boyfriend thought he did, but it was replaced immediately with a worse one.

[@jefferyyoung2580]

This been uss divertiy

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

Huh? Doesn't make sense, and why did you like your own comment?

[@ussvoyager8650]

This TOS version of the Crossfield class looks much better than the Discovery version

[@williamjay87]

I gotta say... I know the Phase ii backstory and i appreciate the creativity as to how the crossfield would fit in...but man i don't think the crossfield looks very good in TOS form. My personal opinion though.

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

We're all entitled to our opinions, so no worries :)

[@OAM47]

People always say the Galaxy looks "top heavy", but the TOS Crossfield, somehow, manages to achieve what I never thought possible for a starship, looking too "bottom heavy". I still like it though.

[@bennyfisher9157]

I hate to be that guy but I don't understand why the Constitution Class didn't have a shuttlebay force field system when other ships of it's time had them.

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

Because in 2245 when the class was launched, that system was new... And due to the Connies mission profile, being out in Deep Space for years at a time, this new tech was not included. The Connie cutting back on unnecessary, complex tech! ~That Other Guy

[@Spawn-td8bf]

I may be in the minority, but I never liked the Excelsior class. I always thought it was gaudy. Having only see ever see snippets of Discovery, never willing to pay for TV, I honestly can't compare them. Discovery has its interesting points, but I grew up with TOS and then TNG. Until they make Discovery more accessible to people like me, I guess I will never know.

[@kommandantgalileo]

This should have been what was in Discovery.

[@fishyfishumsiii6577]

are you going to do videos on the new 32nt century starships

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

Yes, in fact, Ive already done some...

[@timmooney6910]

While I love your presentation and the new models are well done, I’ve always felt the Crossfield class was kind of butt-ugly. Just one fan’s opinion, no offense meant to those who love it.

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

Thanks for sharing!

[@TheCastellan]

9:13 Sounds like lazy writing imo. Kurtzman and co.'s saying all would be neatly taken care of at the end of season 2 was left to be desired.....

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

But it was taken care of, and its only lazy writing to whiners that yearn for Trek to stay in the 90s style, something that for very obvious reasons, such as being canceled in the first place, would not work today either! (PS, this comment proves MY Comment on your previous comment :P )

[@TheCastellan]

@@TriAngulumAudioStudios Sound a tad bit like ego stroking. o.O And yet, the new, 'superior' stuff really divided the fans, it seems, rather than unify. Thank goodness Lower Decks is around. That, and Orville, were the only 2 optimistic sci fi I seen in recent times.

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

It's not ego stroking, it's just Fact ;) As to "dividing fandom" you are incorrect about this too actually. Ive received 100's of comments, tweets and messages over the years dealing with this exact topic. And very few fans are divided on the issue. TrekSphere and I even conducted a HUGE poll in all the FB Groups and on Twitter to determine just how divided Fandom was. This included groups dedicated to hating DSC. And what we found was only 24% of the Original Fandom dislike DSC. That's not even close to being divided, rather it places whiners in the minority. And to be blunt, it's time to get over it. It's been 4+ years and NO one is interested in the negativity and whining anymore. You dont like DSC, that's good for you, but dont try and spread that nonsense everywhere you go. And since Season 3 is the last Season of Orville, it having been moved to Hulu in a failed attempt to save the show, all just proves that Old Trek doesnt work. DSC has a LOT of optimism, it's just done in a more realistic by today's standards way, and Im ok with that. And if you can't see that, because you've blinded yourself, well that's on you. So in closing, we get it, you dont like DSC, now move on! (Thread CLOSED- No further Comments Will Appear)

[@shanenway3684]

It has too much of a phase 2 look to it :)

[@JeffreyPiatt]

Then strange new worlds introduced a 3rd version of the class.

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

No not really... The episode is clear that the ship was cobbled together, utilizing a crossfield class saucer and probably its transponder... And a cobbled together ship by an enemy is not another Starfleet created class!