Triple-T #49 - Freehand Knife Grinding Basics

[@TyrellKnifeworks]

This is just the basics and there will more more detailed videos on grinding topics coming up. Any basic tips I didn't cover that you want to add?

[@dylanbennett3851]

Great video! You covered all the basics from what I could tell. I started my welding courses last month and have been super busy, that's why I haven't been commenting as much. I look forward to the future videos buddy! Great job as always!!!

[@davidpugh4527]

Great instructions Dennis you make learning fun and easy and if Jared is reading this your grinds look really good man

[@mcrich1978]

I'm jelly! Lol good stuff! Thanks Denis. 🤘🤘

[@TyrellKnifeworks]

@@dylanbennett3851 welding courses should help you a lot! Thanks for checking out this Triple-T! ❤️

[@TyrellKnifeworks]

@@davidpugh4527 thanks for watching, David! Jerid did a great job for his third knife, or any knife! 👍

[@theviking6363]

Jared clearly has a good mentor considering my third knife looked like a mangled piece of steel with an edge that could almost cut butter

[@TyrellKnifeworks]

He picked it up pretty quickly. Thanks for watching!

[@theviking6363]

@@TyrellKnifeworks thanks for replying!

[@ColinBonnar-v3j]

I've watched many tutorials on grinding. This has been the best one good simple, applicable instructions. Thanks!

[@TyrellKnifeworks]

Glad it helped! Thanks for watching. ❤️

[@geraldandre7009]

Super helpful explanation. Straightforward, no mystery, no magic, just simple useful instructions. 👍

[@TyrellKnifeworks]

Happy to hear it was helpful, Gerald! Now put it to work and send me some pics for Viewer Knives! 👍🏻

[@LIONTAMER3D]

his instructional videos are cool, but they lack the moneyshot endings of his build videos. i learned a ton from to steel composition video, learning something every time i watch =\

[@SaintGalganoArmory]

DUDE!! Do you have any idea how many of these types of videos I have watch, and this is the first one I have seen that incorporates graphics also to help the viewer understand. Amazing job and wonderful idea! This is probably the best freehand grinding basics video. Thank you.

[@TyrellKnifeworks]

I’m thrilled it was helpful to you! Thanks for watching.

[@alansweet6525]

Wow! Great video! You’re a natural teacher. Thank you for the content.

[@TyrellKnifeworks]

Thanks, Alan! I appreciate that. ❤️

[@Jody6441]

Just found this video today and it is probably one of the best grinding tutorials I've seen. 👌

[@TyrellKnifeworks]

I’m glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching.

[@TyrellKnifeworks]

Also, you should checkout the more recent version of this video. I didn't notice you watched the old one. kzbin.info/www/bejne/fn-QgHt4mrppjc0si=6A4ZCEicIFG51Stv

[@ben3840]

You explain it very well, the knives are beautiful, but the best video is about free-hand grinding. I finally understood it. Greetings from Poland.

[@TyrellKnifeworks]

I’m glad it was helpful. Thanks for watching!

[@theriversexperience9383]

Great video Denis! I show people who are new to knife making how to do bevels this way. It's one of the easiest ways to keep your self from getting divots on your bevels. Great info for the knife maker man.

[@TyrellKnifeworks]

Thanks Erick!

[@LucaHMafra]

I made my first knife a few years ago during a knife-making class here in my city. For many reasons, I was unable to keep making knives for more than 3 or 4 years. I had previously forged other two (right before the pandemic), but only my first knife was ever finished. Today I'm going back to my community forge to grind those two unfinished knives. I was panicking a bit due to not remembering the whole process. Thanks for the video, it really helped me remember the basics. Now it's just a matter of getting some practice. Cheers!

[@TyrellKnifeworks]

It's all about practice and doing it over and over. Just take your time and slow down the grinder if you can. Thanks for watching, Luca.

[@LucaHMafra]

@@TyrellKnifeworks just an update after the grinding session: it went smoothly. No problems whatsoever; managed to establish my lines the way I wanted. The only tricky part was the tip of the knife due to the distal taper, but I managed to make it work by angling the knife accordingly. Thank again, mate!

[@Bladeshed]

Great information,thanks. Just brought a1*30, I gonna try your way of doing it. Enjoy your videos, thanks again.

[@TyrellKnifeworks]

I’m glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching!

[@fubudap]

Dude! Hands down the best explanation I’ve found. My free hand grinding and bevels suck, I can’t wait to try it after watching this.

[@TyrellKnifeworks]

Great to hear it was helpful! There will be more videos on grinding soon that include different issues you'll encounter. 👍🏻

[@LIONTAMER3D]

he's like a knife Bob Ross: he sure makes it LOOK easy, but it's not. Also, props to the happy children in the background; they're clearly having a ball.

[@TyrellKnifeworks]

@@LIONTAMER3D haha, those aren’t even my kids, those are the neighbor’s! 🤣. Thanks for watching!

[@jeffrangel93]

I have a bevel jig and understand there is a bit of a learning curve to those as well. After implementing your method freehand, I can say I am better using your method then using a jig. Thx for the video!

[@TyrellKnifeworks]

You’ll be happy you surpassed the jig. They are very limiting. I’m glad the video was helpful, thanks for watching!

[@wiggsan]

Thanks so much for this video. I've been wanting to set the knife jig aside and go for a freehand grind and now I know what to do. Thanks!!!!!!!!

[@TyrellKnifeworks]

I’m glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching.

[@BurnsBlades]

I personally don't use a work rest when I'm doing bevels, but I may try it out with this technique on the next knife. Great Vid!

[@TyrellKnifeworks]

The technique can be used with or without the rest. I personally find the rest easier because I don't have the steady hand for doing it without it. I'm glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching!

[@KHDailyKnives]

This is a great video! I will definitely be sharing it when people ask me how to grind kitchen knives better!

[@TyrellKnifeworks]

Thanks for watching, Kyle!

[@K3Flyguy]

I have been making knives with a huge file jig I made that uses 2x72 belts instead of a file. I made 9 very nicely beveled blades like this. I just finished my Revolution 4 grinder kit and your video has answered many questions I had about using the grinder. Thank you very much! I liked and subscribed.

[@TyrellKnifeworks]

Brian’s Revolution is a quality machine, you’ll do well with that! Let me know if there are other grinding related questions. I’m going to do another grinding video soon. 👍

[@K3Flyguy]

Honestly belt selection is a complete mystery, perhaps you could enlighten us before we invest hundreds of $$$ into belt stock. I just got the Norton Blaze 36, 60, 120. Thanks again, videos like yours are amazing, and saying THANK YOU seems like not quite enough!

[@julioknob43]

Exelente vídeo, minha dificuldade é esta na hora de fazer o gume da faca e suas dicas ajudaram muito.

[@TyrellKnifeworks]

Fico feliz que meus vídeos te ajudem. Obrigado por assistir!

[@WILLYSCHNUCK]

You guys are Da BOMB!!! Thanks for this video. I just got my brand-new Brodbeck all ready to go with every bell and every whistle they offer.. I have made plenty of knives on my 2X48 kalamazoo. So I do have a learning curve I'm finding out with this new BEAST!!

[@TyrellKnifeworks]

You'll find the VDF is a lifesaver! Welcome to the Brodbeck club! 👍🏻

[@WILLYSCHNUCK]

@@TyrellKnifeworks Thank you!!, Having so many folks with the same setup is a good feature for me. In Vegas we don't have a whole lot of Black smiths. Do you have the Buffing wheel attachment? I'm trying to find a good source for the buffer wheel.

[@TyrellKnifeworks]

@@WILLYSCHNUCK I don't have the buffing wheel attachment for my grinder if that's what you mean. I have a seperate buffer. Brodbeck sells the buffing wheel attachments though.

[@jamesbarisitz4794]

Congrats Jarrod, great work! Awesome instructions. ✌

[@TyrellKnifeworks]

He’s doing great! Thanks for watching, James.

[@22Jerid]

Thank you sir!

[@simp3204]

The timing on this vid was perfect, my grinder comes in on Saturday!

[@TyrellKnifeworks]

That's great! What grinder did you get?

[@simp3204]

@@TyrellKnifeworks I went with Alec Steele’s 2x72

[@TyrellKnifeworks]

@@simp3204 nice!

[@randyblackburn9765]

Good show, beveling seems to be the hardest part in building a great looking knife.I have made and tried different bevel jigs and for some reason freehand seems to come out best . It’s frustrating to get a ( 2inch) divot and have to spend time correcting it on a hardened blade .All said the thumb and knuckle pressure at the center of belt may very well take care of the divot that can develop at 2 inches from plunge line .👍

[@TyrellKnifeworks]

I’ll cover plunge lines and the dreaded “smiley” in the next episode! 👍 Thanks for watching!

[@mikegracia1475]

Also a quick Q on the scribe... How exactly do you set the scribe to be centre? Measure the blade with calipers and set scribe to half of that?

[@TyrellKnifeworks]

You don’t need it exactly centered. Just scribe it from each side and you’ll get parallel lines that are close. That’s usually good enough.

[@mikegracia1475]

@@TyrellKnifeworks Cool. Cheers :)

[@T_B]

I can see you having 1 day, or weekend, classes running through your shop very soon! You are a natural teacher with the right demeanor. People would schedule time with you in your shop, bud. At least think about it. A lot of people out here love your videos and teaching style.

[@TyrellKnifeworks]

I barely have time to keep up with the break-neck pace of my KZbin schedule. Doing classes just isn't feasible right now. Maybe if I went full time when I retire I'll consider it. Thanks for watching!

[@Wengelsworkshop]

Great tips! Thanks Denis

[@TyrellKnifeworks]

Thanks for checking it out! 👍🏻

[@German.A777]

Muchas gracias por explicarlo todo.!!!👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 Excelentes videos 💪🏻

[@TyrellKnifeworks]

Gracias por ver este video.

[@richardbranton2780]

I just got my new Ameribrade 2x48 today and it works great. The problem is my grinding jig won't work on it the opening around the platen is to small. I shake like a dog 💩a peach kernel but I'm going to try freehand again. Thanks for the video I haven't seen anyone using the rest

[@TyrellKnifeworks]

Try the rest method. I’ve taught many people this method and it’s easy to pickup and way more versatile than a jig. Thanks for watching, Richard.

[@richardbranton2780]

@@TyrellKnifeworks I'm going to give it a shot but it's going to be 3 weeks before I'm back to my shop. I'm only home 1 or 2 weekends a month. I'm thinking about a new job

[@fencingrocks3]

When do you use your mister? I was wondering why you weren't using it in this case, with a thinner blade post HT.

[@TyrellKnifeworks]

The problem with the mister is that it’s loud and gets in the way of the camera shot. I use it after I get the shot usually or if I’m doing a short shot. 😜

[@TheMotownPhilly]

Do you think that a respirator is necessary if your using a misting system? I'm thinking that would keep the dust from flying around.

[@TyrellKnifeworks]

It will certainly help a lot, but I don’t think it negates the need for a respirator. Thanks for watching.

[@sudo_nym]

I finished the bevels on my 4th knife last night. I use a piddly 1 x 30 and an angle iron bevel jig, but have to take my time with it. There was a slight mess up, in that I didn't realise I was very slightly pressing onto the work rest, which changed the angle very slightly on one side of the blade, but I do plan to acid wash the blade, so hopefully it won't show too much. Once it's done, I'll email the pictures to you, Airin, James and Brian. I got 'Knife-maker's Neck' this morning!! 😫 Cheers Denis! 👍🏻

[@TyrellKnifeworks]

I know about knife maker’s neck! I rearranged my shop again and lowered the table my grinder was on, much better now. Looking forward to that picture!

[@sudo_nym]

@@TyrellKnifeworks Some of my previous knives are on my channel. kzbin.info/door/Wy7Ta-8ru56h2jg8walX8g I'm hoping to improve, though. 👍🏻

[@TyrellKnifeworks]

I didn't even know you had a channel! I just checked them out, very nice! Way better than my first few for sure! 👍🏻

[@sudo_nym]

@@TyrellKnifeworks I hope to get better, and I'm sure I will. You, Airin, James et al - all picking up tips from you guys!!!

[@tdechill]

Great video. how would I change the bevel on a woodcarving knife from Scandi to flat? Thanks

[@TyrellKnifeworks]

Just put a secondary sharpening bevel on it. A scandi grind is just a primary bevel with no secondary sharpening bevel. Thanks for watching.

[@derekhughes9274]

Great video and very instructive, thankyou.

[@TyrellKnifeworks]

Thanks for watching, Derek!

[@danielbottner7700]

Tried & tested this method . . . It seems this method is better at destroying belts than grinding blades. It there an alternative you can recommend ?

[@TyrellKnifeworks]

If this doesn’t work for you, you’re doing it wrong. Perhaps explain what your problems are, not blame the process. It’s been confirmed by MANY that it works.

[@StoneHands25]

I know this is an old video, I was just curious would it be the same for doing a regrind? Or would you just start grinding the fullness of the flat grind. Thanks!

[@TyrellKnifeworks]

Regrinding a bevel is usually easier. You already have a flat face to start on. Thanks for watching.

[@richardabbott5601]

Really helpful, learned a lot. Thanks

[@TyrellKnifeworks]

Great! Thanks for watching, Richard!

[@theblackdeathh]

Late to this video, but I do have a dumb question. So I have seen and was told to first grind a 45 on both sides to knock(break?) the corner. Once that's done then you go to your bevel angle that you want, but I see you did a 25 and then kept decreasing the angle as you did your bevel. Do you do that for a specific type of grind, like you did that because you're grinding a chef knife? Just trying to figure out what's what, thank you and I really enjoyed your video, gonna try using my work rest now!

[@TyrellKnifeworks]

A 45 is a bit steep. Unless you’re doing really thick knives that gives you a really narrow facet. The angle isn’t important really. You just want a flat area and then use thumb pressure to control where the bevel goes. Make sense?

[@theblackdeathh]

@@TyrellKnifeworks @Tyrell Knifeworks it does, thank you for taking the time to reply! I did seem very steep to me, basically you get to your centerlines very quickly and I noticed I can blow past them easily at that angle if I'm not careful. The only thing I will say is at that angle you have a very pronounced flat which does help me stay away from hitting the edge when doing my bevels and an easy visual to aim at. But I'm still very new so I'm trying everything 🙂

[@matusmikoviny]

nice thanks got for me couple of points

[@TyrellKnifeworks]

Glad it was useful to you. Thanks for watching.

[@ClenioBuilder]

Awesome tips. Thanks.

[@TyrellKnifeworks]

Thanks for watching!!

[@mikegracia1475]

I'm yet to see a detailed video on putting in twin centre lines and how to measure // set the scribe up for this ;)

[@TyrellKnifeworks]

It really depends on the type of scribe you have. Maybe I’ll recap it in a future Triple-T. Thanks fir watching, Mike.

[@mikegracia1475]

@@TyrellKnifeworks No worries! Cheers - Will subscribe ;)

[@JOBTEMCRAFT]

Thank you for sharing! 😁👍

[@TyrellKnifeworks]

Thanks for following along! ❤️

[@Baldmanblades]

Nicely done

[@TyrellKnifeworks]

Thanks for checking it out, Barry!

[@calebsiebenaler7087]

Maybe this is a dumb question, but doesn't the angle change s you move your thumb up and down the knife?

[@TyrellKnifeworks]

Yes, exactly. That’s how you change the bevel. If you want the bevel higher up the knife, you move your thumb down (remember the knife is upside down) and if you need to thin the edge, you move your thumb up. Make sense?

[@calebsiebenaler7087]

@@TyrellKnifeworks so let's say I want a 3° bevel, I would just start at like 25° and work my way down to 3°? Am I understanding that right?

[@TyrellKnifeworks]

@@calebsiebenaler7087 we usually don’t think in actual degrees because that’s dependent on the width of your blade. We think in how far up the blade you want the bevel. But basically what you’re saying is true. You start with a flat spot near the edge with a steeper angle and as you move your thumb down it lowers that angle and the bevel widens.

[@andrewneilson227]

What's the verdict after using the misting system for a while? I'm considering pulling the trigger

[@TyrellKnifeworks]

I think they are great, you don’t see me use it as much purely because I’m filming and it’s loud and in the way sometimes.

[@Apucik]

Good educational video.

[@TyrellKnifeworks]

Thanks for watching!

[@rikodusennin61]

Another helpful explanation.. thanks uncle..😘

[@TyrellKnifeworks]

Thanks for following along and watching!

[@rikodusennin61]

@@TyrellKnifeworks what is the difference between grinding using a bavel jig and without a bavel jig?..

[@TyrellKnifeworks]

A jig is very limiting. You can’t feel what you’re doing, it’s easier to burn the blade, you can’t do things like inside curves (like a Karambit), it takes longer to setup the knife in the jig than it does to grind it sometimes. Once you learn freehand you’ll never use a jig again.

[@rikodusennin61]

@@TyrellKnifeworks thank you very much uncle..it's very important information to me..😘

[@dkielp11]

Why would you harden before grinding your bevels? wouldnt that tear up your belt?

[@dkielp11]

Alright well I commented this literally 3 seconds before you said to go look at the other video

[@TyrellKnifeworks]

You certainly go through belts quicker but sometimes it’s important. This is true for stainless steel because you are plate quenching and you want the steel completely touching the plates (the bevel reduces that) and blades warp. Thanks for watching.

[@dkielp11]

@@TyrellKnifeworks thanks for the info! Making my first knife right now!

[@ralfkessler]

Excellent.

[@TyrellKnifeworks]

Thanks for taking a look!

[@dankissinger1969]

Thank you so much!!!

[@TyrellKnifeworks]

Thanks for following along, Dan!

[@mikegracia1475]

Nice! So do you grind 1 side fully then switch?

[@TyrellKnifeworks]

Yes, I usually do as do most guys. Well, actually I’ll grind each side with the same belt, then switch belts and do both sides, etc, if that’s what you mean.

[@mikegracia1475]

@@TyrellKnifeworks Ah cool, so rough grind with same belt both sides then switch belt for a new one & repeat?

[@TyrellKnifeworks]

@@mikegracia1475 yes, correct. Welcome to the channel, Mike. 👍

[@Kratos_God_of_50_BMG]

You should really open a training center for aspiring knife makers! You have the knowledge, the tools of the trade (to learn from watching you) and being a dad.....and I know this being a Dad myself.....you obviously have learned how to be patient whilst teaching! Hey, we need more Molly on video! You can't have a shop mascot and then never let her get any screen time 😉

[@TyrellKnifeworks]

Haha, she’ll be in sone videos soon! Thanks for watching!

[@ИлонМаск-з7ю]

Your knives are fantastic.Tell me, how old are you?

[@TyrellKnifeworks]

Thank you! I'll be 52 in a few weeks. Not a young chicken I'm afraid. 😜

[@randyblackburn9765]

@@TyrellKnifeworks you’re young still , I’m 70 and have been knife making for 2 years .My knives are my graffiti that I can leave with friends and family. I work full time as a plumber and don’t have as much time on hand to leave my mark

[@TyrellKnifeworks]

Still time to do lots of knife making! 👍

[@LIONTAMER3D]

@@randyblackburn9765 i love "graffiti I can leave w/family & friends" lol

[@Kirezane49]

I so want to get a knife/ sword made from you, You’re so f**king amazing. Anyways thanks for making videos.

[@TyrellKnifeworks]

Thanks for following along! I appreciate you watching!

[@Solemngolem]

To me, free hand grinding is grinding with no work rest, fixtures, or jigs. Just plop the knife against the belt and grind. I do use a rest sometimes, but more often than not am finding that I do better work without one.

[@TyrellKnifeworks]

Use whatever definition you want, just get to grinding the best you can and produce good, Repeatable results.

[@ralphkessler8772]

PS anyone can come to my shop and i will show anyone anything that i do.

[@al-qornimedia732]

Boleh dong.... Hadiah pisau untuk saya nyembeloh di pondok pesantren saya

[@TyrellKnifeworks]

Anda boleh menyemak laman web saya untuk melihat apa yang ada untuk dibeli.

[@ralphkessler8772]

I am sorry. I have been FREEHAND grinding since 1981. Saying it ok to use a work table is not i repeat not freehand. The old timers who showed me how to grind DID NOT use anything but our hands. I am sorry but i guess i am just an old crmuggin

[@TyrellKnifeworks]

Is this some kind of badge of honor you think you have? 🤣 I’m sure there’s another guy who can’t believe you used a grinder instead of a stone. Where does it end? How bout we just get to the best finished product and enjoy the journey instead of labeling what’s ok and what’s “cheating”? 😉