Triumph TF 250-X vs KTM 250 SX-F vs Honda CRF250R | DIRT BIKE SHOOTOUT!

We put the new Triumph TF 250-X head to head against the best bikes in the class. Can the new British beauty defeat the KTM 250 SX-F and the Honda CRF250 in a hot lap show down? Which machine will be the fastest? You're about to find out in this worlds first 2024 250 Motocross Shootout featuring the Triumph TF250! :-)
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[@RHiNO1OO]

All bikes should be out the Crate to make it a fair test

[@paulbudford]

That's surprising that the triumph doesn't feel as fast. A sure sign of a well set-up bike.

[@cutters74]

Epic shootout, that Triumph seems to be an absolute weapon, 2 seconds on a two minute lap is a big difference… I predict Triumph will sell many of these 💯🔥😎😎😎

[@999lazer]

we were really surprised at the results and not expecting that much difference. Thanks for watching

[@Davido50]

Huge. It's looking be best 250F available. 💯

[@fizzyridertoo]

Amazing result, especially considering the years of development behind the other two bikes. Triumph are really showing their strength in depth, both on road and off.

[@cosmicsurfer5911]

Triumph has done a great job, this is evident when up against 2 of the best.💪 The drone though😮 rocks

[@999lazer]

Thanks :)

[@timinglis4780]

It’s good that it goes quick without feeling like it, shows it’s stable and well set up

[@motomallen]

Absolutely blown away, what a fantastic production. That Triumph is going to become legendary. Big shout out to Sean, what an asset to 999Lazer, his consistently good riding skills are perfect for making a fair comparison on these head-to-head videos. I've been following Max and 999Lazer since near the beginning here on KZbin and this is now by far the best motocross channel on any platform.

[@999lazer]

Thank you. We really appreciate your kind words :)

[@criscross572]

Have to get you're hands on a Ducati 450 next, great job everyone, love the Triumph 😊

[@999lazer]

Fingers crossed!

[@PotatoeJoe69]

Shane that Desmo 450 is so hideous. Or at least the front of it is. The frame has some wonderful lines; but I don't know what the hell they were thinking with the number plate and front fender 😂

[@mattseaton3521]

@@PotatoeJoe69 Italian styling isn't known for being understated / reserved!

[@everettbranscom6536]

its still a prototype.

[@nickacelvn]

Fantastic. I only hope Triumph export a few down under to NZ.

[@andypandy9931]

Well done Triumph, for a first MX bike that's incredible. Good video, funny seeing that plane (drone) flying around after the riders. It must have been hard to keep up.

[@999lazer]

Thanks Andy, Glad you enjoyed it:)

[@Nathan8rr]

Glad to see the CHAMP Sean Smith on the bike as always!

[@michaelhutchinson4021]

Another great video Max. Like I told you earlier in this saga, if Honda could go from zero to hero in 1973, there was no reason that Triumph couldn't do the same. Now we watch the race season unfold. By the end of the MXON we will see if they succeeded. Good job to Triumph.

[@alanjm1234]

Honda spends their money wisely. The stock bikes are generally not the best in class, but the factory spends a fortune on making their race bikes great, and hiring the best riders. Win on Sunday, sell on Monday. It works, and has for a long time.

[@Eric--zs6um]

Triumph making a grand first impression. Id like to see Roczen take a few hot laps. 999 brilliant as always!

[@999lazer]

Thanks Eric, Triumph have a 450 coming later this year. It would be cool to see Roczen at that for sure :)

[@Eric--zs6um]

@@999lazer awesome

[@JagLite]

Very interesting comparison. Nice to see that the Triumph is competitive.

[@northwestrider369]

You had 3 test riders but only had 2 of them give results? I do t think results would change much but why leave the girl out?

[@glennwoods2462]

I wanted to say Sean looked faster on the Triumph until I saw him riding the KTM through the corners... TBF, Tyler looks good on all 3... again, I'd have to say the KTM... Great episode, and for looks i think the Triumph wins....

[@Slane583]

I think Triumph has something promising on their hands with their new mx bike. I'd say the biggest problem with European brands for a good few of us here in the states is availability. There are absolutely no KTM or Husqvarna dealers local to me and the only way to get either is to travel into Quebec which sadly requires a passport. But there are Triumph motorcycle dealers in the neighboring state so getting a TF 250-X should be as easy as buying one of their motorcycles. I'm sure they'll be selling quite a few of these things when the time comes. :)

[@JayLee-od8ob]

Great riders, great bikes and a great shootout. Thanks you guys and well done everyone.

[@999lazer]

Thanks Jaylee, glad you enjoyed it

[@NS-Gadfly]

Really great to see this. been waiting for the triumph 250 for quite some time now, and i'm very glad to see that it's as fantastic a bike as they swore up and down it would be. Absolutely going to have to get my hands on one

[@irod2821]

Luvd it, great episode. I had a feeling the Triumph was going to be triumphant👍👏👏👊

[@999lazer]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@motoxdudeNV-UT]

Just when ya thought there was nothing new! Blammo! Great job, Triumph!

[@999lazer]

Thanks for watching:)

[@tommyhester3691]

I love the fact that Triumph is back and that Ducati is on the way it brings me joy! I started to get interested I MX/Super-cross and enduro again when I started seeing names like Gas Gas,Sherco,Beta and now Triumph and Ducati reminds me of the 1970s when you would see at least 8-10 manufacturers racing.

[@tuc-dh4df]

Max, these videos just keep getting better, well done to the team

[@999lazer]

Thank you :)

[@crf80fdarkdays]

Agreed, pretty good comparison I would of just would of liked all bikes to be factory settings

[@laszloarvai88]

best Yt channel.

[@999lazer]

Thanks :)

[@kevinmee3501]

Fantastic video Max, the bike's were great, test riders did a good review, I didn't expect the triumph to win, but it looks the complete package, hopefully they will do well I mxgp .

[@999lazer]

Cheers Kevin, they have done a good job so far. I think they were on the podium today at the GP in Spain again.

[@daveanness]

I’m sure I read somewhere that the G.O.A.T aka Ricky Carmichael joined triumph to help them develop triumph’s off-road motorcycles

[@andybowyer3602]

Tyler looked very comfortable on the triumph bt then just as quick on the ktm!

[@davidcolin6519]

It seems to be a very common feeling that the best machine in whatever sport simply doesn't feel fast. You hear these soerts of comments again and again. But 2 seconds a lap for both the riders has to be seen as pretty convincing. And the Triumph had only 2 hours on it. I'm no great fan of the 250 4 stroke format, but if this is any sort of indication of what the 400 is going to be like, that has to be a good thing. Is there any news of when the factory is going to be launching the enduro versions? 'Cause that will be right at the top of my shopping list.

[@7051mike]

Awesome channel keep up the good work. With triumph moving a lot of production away from the UK I haven’t heard mention where the new bike is made?

[@TheHemiphil81]

I have been waiting on this. I would love to see a triumph vs beta head to head.

[@999lazer]

Thanks for watching

[@joeybobbie1]

Amazing Drone work on this Video. Way to go Triumph! As far as looks, I’ve always liked the Honda Red, but all three Bikes look great. For a Stock right out of the Crate Bike, the Triumph was very impressive. I’ll have to give it a little Time to see how well they hold up, before I would think about getting one. Again though, way to go Triumph! I’m loving the Bike already. Great Video.😁👍👍

[@calvinhobbs89]

I'll take my 01 cr 250 .. nice to see new playes to the market, keep up the great work

[@jedielder7970]

Question for the creator (of this video content) and all of those in the know: do the factory KTM teams, in Europe and North America, use the air forks or do they use a spring conversion kit or other special non air forks? I heard they do not use the single spring/air fork combo because it's not as plush and characteristics change with heat buildup (air expansion). Thanks for the video and any info. I enjoy your channel. PS: I am very impressed on what Triumph has been able to achieve with their first MX bike... it looks very refined, fast and beyond its years.

[@ogasi1798]

on track in GP it looks fast as FOOK, the guys racing it are fast as hell but by no means the top tier and yet it is right there...imagine if the Triumph was piloted by a top guy..... you only have to watch it on track, in and out of corners it is lightning

[@Hanky_Bannist8r]

I wanted the Triumph to be best here only because it's the unproven underdog. Anytime Ricky puts this much confidence in something you know it's going to be good. Just look at the early 00's Rm250s, Ricky and Pastrana had fingers in development of that machine and it's probably one of the best handling bikes I've ever ridden. Good on ya Triumph.

[@999lazer]

They are all good bikes, but Triumph has done their homework for sure and made something special for sure :)

[@tonypalmer7779]

Great footage as usual max well done triumph

[@999lazer]

Thanks Tony, glad you enjoyed it :)

[@kindnuguz]

Very interesting how the riders didn't feel Triumph was faster but the clock showed it. I think you stated HP difference, well that goes to show HP does matter even though you could argue the whole package. I say this because the riders didn't feel the Triumph faster but it was. The side by side with Tyla showed the difference but the one bobble at 59 sec set the KTM and Triumph apart. From there the long straights and the more HP? allowed it to pull away

[@paulmerino19]

Love the look of the triumph, very hot bike

[@damonwright8328]

Keep bringing the awesome vids 99 laser

[@999lazer]

Will do, thanks Damon:)

[@brickafide]

Tyler looks more comfortable in the air on the KTM but the worst on the dirt with it. The Honda and triumph looked less comfortable in the air for both and splitting hairs on the dirt due to the different perspectives with Tyler’s triumph lap. But I want to say it looked smoother and got in the throttle quicker on the triumph and therefore looked the fastest on the triumph on the dirt.

[@martindownes9599]

I'd liked to have been a fly on the wall when Tyler told his sponsor that he was faster on a stock Triumph than his own race prepped KTM .............." hmmm run that by me again Tyler it sounded like you said that the Triumph was nearly 2 seconds quicker than our bike Grrrrrrrrrrrr " !! 😅😅😅

[@BillyBoblovesthedirt]

A lot of comments about what a good job Triumph have done on their first attempt which is true. What amazes me is how good the Stark Varg is. Considering it is a brand new company altogether and they built a bike that’s using a (relatively) brand new technology. I can’t help think that Triumph should have gone down the electric route rather than try and compete against the legacy manufacturers in a class that will likely move to electric in the next 10 years anyway . They could have built a bike to compete against both the Varg and the oil burners putting themselves ahead of the other manufacturers who are having to develop ICE’s while they work on E technology in the background. Before anyone gets on the “but you need to charge it using petrol generators” bandwagon, remember there are a heap of benefits to going electric and it wouldn’t be a huge deal to have decent power supply at a track, especially if they don’t need to be in the middle of nowhere because of noise complaints. E bikes can potentially bring the cost of racing back to a level (or even less) than that seen since the demise of 2 stokes. That would be truly great for the sport and industry.

[@Stonefly2112]

As far as a bike being new built from the ground up the olny MX bike built new from the ground up in my lifetime would be the Cannondale MX 400. That bike doesn't look like anything on the track. The Triumph is a great bike however I could not say that the bike is all new but more newly reverse engineered from the KTM mostly then the Yahmaha, etc., etc. the Triumph looks exactly like the other bikes on the track. I would say the Triumph is a much more successful bike because it took the good things about existing bikes and built it to match. Im not sure most people understand how groundbreaking and built from scratch the Cannondale was. It was truly from scratch. But this incredibly audacious project proved to be too much to tackle. However it influenced many of the MX four strokes we have today. Triumph is a great bike and i believe it will be a great bike in the future.

[@robthomas3968]

Sean says the triumph didn’t feel fast. I remember F1 driver once saying if your driving and it doesn’t feel fast but it’s on point. It’s the opposite. It’s very fast.

[@Superdisco199]

Good work. What about the tyres ? they would have been different wouldn't they ? looks like super soft track. Triumph also runs a narrower rear than the others I think for better turning.

[@Ariz-up1ri]

Beautiful triumph

[@speeddemon9555]

Triumph, I WANT ONE !!

[@wernerxldata]

So actually the previous gen ktm engine vs the current gen ktm engine vs the Honda engine. The previous gen is a really fast bomb proof engine with a lot more potential than out of the crate. There’s a lot of improvement possible with quite simple changes.

[@kylelangworthy9641]

I think all 3 bikes being stock would be a better comparison.The honda with better suspension is quite a huge advantage

[@wickedleeloopy2115]

Triumph are much more progressive than Harley Davidson , that's for sure. They need to bring out a 450 cc bike to keep their momentum going in the market . Good job

[@Quadz10]

How can the KTM Brembo “Brakes” be rated low? And “looks” when these bikes aren’t even in stock trim… rad time comparison test (I was engaged) but those score sheets are super rough 😬

[@wrestle259]

Stats don’t lie👌🏻✌🏻

[@msrx08]

Hi, what do you think about the new MX Ducati?

[@999lazer]

Love very interesting, would love to do a test with it :)

[@msrx08]

@@999lazer I think it's too early because the Desmo MX 450 is still in beta testing. Cairoli is testing the bike. Ducati is now using the Desmo 450 in the Italian motocross championship for testing. I know there will probably also be an enduro approved version of the same bike.

[@thomastjg53]

I hate to say it , but British bike , British riders , just say’n. It may be a great bike we will see , let’s hope.

[@arminziaee5395]

hopefully triumph makes an enduro!

[@studay1007]

Great first attempt at a bike!! It sounded and looked to have more off the bottom end than the crf and sxf? I would like to see it up against a yzf?

[@daveanness]

Haha I paused the video to comment and then Ricky Carmichael name gets mentioned

[@tessbushell5489]

Top video max 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧

[@999lazer]

Thanks :)

[@eklingsinghrathore]

Where's Anya‘s lap timings?!

[@leroythomas1924]

You should have a 300 shoot out with a beta, a gas gas, and an ssr…

[@dodgybodger3124]

All the bikes are pretty much of the same. 👍 It's about getting to know the machine, n the ability of the rider. Put a top rider on any bike on a good day, they will fare well. 😉👍

[@tonygee3284]

That Honda is so beatiful

[@dylanhedges5634]

Well done Triumph, 2 stroke bike please

[@studay1007]

Tyler would look fast on my sons BMX!!

[@MotocrossMyPassionUltraTV]

Triumph 👍🏻🏁🏆

[@jasonparker3920]

So you had the suspension setup on the cr , but say nothing bout setting up the rest, ride them all out of the box or the review mean shit .

[@999lazer]

The plan was to have 3 box fresh bikes, but KTM couldn't/wouldn't supply a 24 bike and Honda pulled out last second (literally on the morning of the test). It's much harder to pull off a shoot like this (and way more expensive) than you'd think. The triumph was completely stock out of the crate and still won the test with two different riders on board, i think that says a lot about the bike in my opinion.

[@dillonrobinson8468]

Not a fair comparison. All the bikes need to be brand new . Out the Box

[@borona1045]

KTM vs KTM vs Honda 😂

[@jkell411]

The only shootout where the Honda was picked the winner by a test rider. Extremely sus.

[@fimenduro]

Braaaap.

[@laserdad]

Max, you need to be one of the test riders.

[@999lazer]

Unfortunately there was too much going on with this test and I had to be behind the camera. As I'd already ridden the Triumph at the launch in the USA I didn't mind so much:)

[@StevieDee73]

Why didn’t you have the Yamaha Kawasaki & Suzuki in this 250 shoot out understand GasGas & Husqvarna 🤔

[@ed11.]

How did you get a Triumph before everyone else?

[@999lazer]

As Triumph are based in the UK they were kind enough to lend us their first ever press bike for the day :)

[@DanHolliday177]

👊🏁

[@motoboggle7525]

Was Anya not supposed to be riding it as well ?

[@EthanolEnthusiast]

4k pls

[@BrockBaker-fd6gi]

I can tell Shawn is a 250 rider that’s the fastest I’ve seen him look I think it’s a toss up between the crf and the tx250f for him

[@BrockBaker-fd6gi]

Tf250x

[@jonvanleuven8621]

In your intro you mentioned that the Honda had, had the suspension set up by someone. So did I miss some thing?? Are these bike absolutely stock out of the box for this comparison???

[@Mockle07]

No. The KTM and Honda both have ‘tuned’ suspension of some sort… not that it seemed to help haha

[@LeeTillbury]

No YZ-F? Many a group test winner.

[@r2dadizubz]

Chill out

[@LeeTillbury]

​@@r2dadizubzPerfectly chilled thanks, just asking a question. Is that ok with you? I will be really disappointed if not 😂

[@danielwaddell123]

It seems like they were struggling to get their hands on 2024 bikes.

[@christophervillarreal8565]

Yamaha may win shootouts but they lose badly on reliability especially the 250s

[@genefuzer4287]

Great comparison. Would still take the KTM or Honda. Triumph looks a bit… 💩 but clearly a very refined bike!

[@harm97]

Yamaha has the fastest engine this year!

[@beverywhereyouare]

Did I miss the girls thoughts ?

[@999lazer]

yes, they are in there:)

[@ОктайМехмедов]

😀😀😀👍👍

[@lw3918]

They say the Triumph has the highest power to weight ratio? Idk, I just hate the black plastic.

[@yamahakid450f]

Then change it...that's the dumbest complaint

[@lw3918]

@yamahakid450f In your opinion. Doesn't really effect me I don't ride little boy bikes.

[@Mockle07]

@@lw3918 You start out by questioning its power to weight ratio (despite both riders going faster on it) then seem to justify your doubts by bringing up the black plastics 🤷🏼‍♂️😂

[@lw3918]

@Mockle07 OK so according to you I'm not allowed to have an opinion. You're a Democrat aren't you?

[@loni321]

Looks:KTM HONDA TRIUMPH Overall:Give me all the bikes,there all good, love them all❤😅👍

[@frankwilliams2198]

I dont believe that I think hes just trying to support hes Countrys bike.

[@keithkamps77]

I'm sorry but Motocross machines shouldn't have any Nanny Aids whatsoever it should be all about the rider not the damn computers.

[@beverywhereyouare]

Where's the Husky ??

[@dodgybodger3124]

Aluminium frames are apparently to stiff. 😲 Now steel frames are to stiff. 😲 It's about the rider. 😉

[@Mockle07]

You know that not all aluminium frames or all steel frames are the same, right? Every single pro rider will have a preference when it comes to chassis or suspension feel… set up and feel is massively important, this “it’s just the rider” stuff is just something people used to say when they didn’t know any better.

[@samprest6752]

Should have had a three rider run disappointing

[@Mockle07]

Well the Triumph would have still won… what would a third rider have proved? 😂

[@criticalmass181]

"All new design' is the most used, but most stupid statement, from any manufacturer, these days. It's OK to just make something a bit better than you did last year and say it's updated...... As for Triumph? Great work getting into the MX scene about 50 years late, and pretending that you're 'cutting edge' and have been doing all the heavy lifting over the years. How about you do something really special, then start to blow your horn? That goes for Ducati, as well. You're both getting out of a taxi, at the 41 k mark of a marathon, then running the last kilometre, and saying that you won.

[@Mockle07]

lol you sound like a really shrewd businessman 🥴

[@charliebrown4809]

ALL 3 are Garb

[@christophervillarreal8565]

Tested it myself and honestly was not impressed was kinda let down Bike suspension was super stiff even for my heavy ass (190lbs) Exhaust sounded the same all through the power band and in every gear to the point it was confusing me if I had even shifted Power was pretty good but didn’t really come on until the mid range but did pull pretty good all the way through the top Chassis felt like a Ktm but perhaps a little more rigid my Ktm (2022 450sx) was lighter but felt similar weight wise but of course engine characteristics makes the 450 feel heavier in some instances Shifting was a bit weird too it doesn’t like to be shifted unless the clutch is all the way in and anything else it’s nearly impossible or not pleasant Electrical issues arose for each test rider ultimately it was discovered that the ground bolt kept coming loose Lastly after taking it apart it was kinda of a let down considering so much got the bike seems copied Kyb from a Suzuki Frame from a old Yamaha Ktm body kit Ktm gas tank Ktm motor Ktm brakes Ktm subframe Ktm plastics Ktm handle bars Ktm swing arm So that being said it wasn’t as good as a Ktm.

[@donaldtrumpenstein9722]

Holy fuck they are getting 40 horse out of these 250s the 450s must be 70 plus

[@user-sp8eb6iz7f]

Is that the Kayaba SSS forks?

[@Andy-co6pn]

Need to have the YF250F in the comparison

[@colinbox3472]

Need yours and old man opinions on the bikes as your skills are more in line with most of us weekend warriors

[@cwtv716]

As always, great fkng video. All of your videos are awesome. Keep up the great work. Great job to the Triumph Crew.. RC.. Great Job! Maybe some top-tier big name Riders coming in 25 or 26??.. to the Triumph Brand? Exciting to see and I can’t wait for the 450 debut. 🤙

[@999lazer]

Thanks 👍

[@Theairguitarguy]

Impressive from Triumph!

[@999lazer]

we were pretty shocked when we saw the times!

[@chrishipwell9116]

Another great shoot. Great mix of riders. Covered all skill set levels. Fantastic idea. Broaden the scope… broaden your audience. Kudos! IMO - Happy that Triumph got In the game. Competition only spurs on greater engineering. The only thing missing in the comparison is the price tag. That’s a huge component that I wish was factored in and also discussed. Triumph produced a superb machine, but, maybe too much “tech “. MotoGP is currently placing limits and changing rules on the tech front. Let the riders do the riding and may the best rider win. Don’t forget about good old fashioned luck! Keep the content coming! 🎉