I Was BANNED From Buying The $50,000 Guitar | 2022 Gibson Kirk Hammett Greeny Announced + Reactions

[@Trog]

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[@samcampbell850]

I think the trip and experience would have been fantastic! But at $20,000 for this I don’t think it would be worth it. I could fly around the world and go see Metallica in concert a few times for this price!

[@JONNIE_ROCKER]

No.

[@marcreno893]

I have to wonder if they just don’t want you making a video taking it all apart, finding all the flaws and at the end you declaring Gibson and Hammet are robbing people at 50k.

[@Hickeroar]

$50k is silly money for that, whether you're talking about the guitar or the optional package. The price makes no sense from any logical standpoint. It's also pretty lame that they straight up won't let you buy one. No one does more free Gibson marketing than you...

[@SagaMediaNet]

Small correction on the greeny neck pickup it's more than just the magnet being flipped. It was wound with formvar wire which I believe was fender strat stuff

[@thespatch]

I'd say that Gibson refusing to sell you a $3,500 guitar for $50,000 is a sign of respect.

[@odralebazerimar9084]

They're probably scared of getting a "This isn't worth the money at all" review from Trogly.

[@DBMorris]

@@odralebazerimar9084 that was my guess as well.

[@dboone7670]

@@odralebazerimar9084 Exactly!

[@GT-yw8ue]

😂😂😂

[@younkinjames8571]

3500 is an incredible stretch for any Gibson product

[@charlesrense5199]

This isn't for you, Trogly. This is for regular, hard working Joes that can afford to spend 50k on a guitar!

[@Lomni]

Aka blooz lawyers

[@dboone7670]

@@Lomni I did enjoy Trogly's slight dig at Bonamassa

[@dboone7670]

@@mohamedtlass3842 I know if a lot of people that want Bonamassa's collection, but I don't know of anyone that wants to be him

[@scottykingdavid]

Agreed

[@14lamnc1]

@@dboone7670 I do

[@robnamowicz8073]

I was fortunate enough to meet Mr. Green when the original Mac was touring America, we were sharing a dressing room at a teen club north of Detroit. They were booked for two nights and the basement of the ski lodge, 'Silverbell' was a combination of staging area, dressing rooms and a flop house for musicians from Rochester Michigan courtesy of the promoter. Mr. Green was a real gentleman, asked if he could play my Stratocaster, and offered his Les Paul to me. He had the upper bout strap end screwed on, with a leather horse cinch belly strap. The strap a series had two holes in series for the horse buckle, you can see the strap on several 'Mac' vids from those days. The guitar was not nearly as beat up as it is now, played like silk but I didn't plug it in, we didn't have an amp in the dressing room. He played the show through a Fender Twin , we all sat down in front, all we little guitar dweebs. He blew our minds. Within a week I found an old horse cinch strap, and mounted it, still on my Strat. So casual, such a nice man, he was plugged in to the 'big juice,' a seer of things others cannot, could hear what others could not. Still a big hero, who never wanted to be,,,,,,,,,,,,,

[@calvinlee8103]

What year/color is your Strat?

[@JohnnyArtPavlou]

Cool story. 💚

[@christophercarty675]

What a story! That’s awesome man!

[@tinystar3010]

That sounds like such an amazing experience. A rare "good to meet your hero" moment.

[@markthompsoncpa]

Rob: WOW, I went to the old Silverbell Hideaway in the late 60's many times. Bob Seager on new years eve on a small riser 5" away, Steve Winwood Spencer Davis Group set up on the dance floor also everyone about 5-10' away. I missed Green I think

[@briansavage932]

Gibson is extremely good at making really bad brand choices.

[@SophiaAphrodite]

They make bad guitars in general.

[@synonyx]

All while Fender seems to be making the right ones.

[@HeelBJC]

Bad brand choices? The guy says in the video quite literally said that all of them were sold already. The stupidity of the 'Gibson sucks' circlejerk crowd on social media never ceases to amaze me.

[@SublimeSynth]

not selling to this opportunist was good decision

[@jjbast]

I think they have knocked it out of the park... Models like Segio Vallin's and Dave Mustaine's gsignatures are a cash grab, because they hardly played Gibsons live, but I have seen this guitar in concert! It is a treat to see the most famous Les Paul touring the world.

[@electricalife]

Huge respect to Kirk for taking Greeny on the road. I remember a clip with him saying he actually meets fans of the guitar that have no desire to talk to him other than about the guitar.

[@clos87]

Don’t understand how you can be fan of a guitar… I get it we love our guitars, but brin a fan of a guitar it’s something I don’t understand.

[@evil6564]

​@@clos87okay

[@mrksdlx]

It's shit like this that turns many Gibson lovers away from the brand, myself included.

[@rooster4906]

What then can be said about famous painters and their paintings that reach millions, and the best example is Banksy and the price of his paintings, graffiti and other artists, it's just the way it is, whether we're angry or not, all the guitars will be sold, in the end it's Gibson's business

[@SublimeSynth]

not selling to opportunists is a great move

[@DBMorris]

@@rooster4906 painters don't get the big money for copies.

[@kosmonument2682]

You can just buy the normal priced ones. The entire vintage market is for suckers. They're all buying replicas for stupid money.

[@natashanyxx9486]

Wow. Kinda unreal for Gibson to treat Trogly that way. He’s one of their biggest cheerleaders. Did they have Mark Agnesi deliver the bad news in a video? That isn’t a good look.

[@carterpochynok4874]

I guess he's just not playing authentically enough! I'm sure they'll sell him one once the 10 people who actually want to pay full price get one and the other 40 are collecting dust...

[@hkguitar1984]

LOL, funny All EQs at Noon with just a touch of reverb........................

[@Chimp_Handzee]

That kind of backstabbing would make me never want to buy a new Gibson product again. I wouldn't give them another dime of my money.

[@dirtydanthesecretsauceman8519]

Yeah, I’ve defended Gibson for many of their unpopular decisions (like the dean lawsuit) but this is just downright ungrateful. Trogly is not just one of the biggest advocates for Gibson , he is one of the only advocates in the guitartuber sphere. Even if trogly intended to sell it, they should have made an exception for him.

[@SecretIdolBand]

It would 🐝 enough for me to not buy another Gibson honestly

[@thomasfaraone4213]

They don’t want Trogly to break down the guitar and show people that it’s just a $4000 custom shop model.

[@improvcomedywithtonebone]

LMAO. Absolutely brother!

[@OldeDog_NewTricks]

Don’t need a breakdown to already know that

[@anniedarkhorse6791]

Bingo. It's about selling the illusion to people with too much money and not enough taste.

[@craigpimlott204]

@@anniedarkhorse6791I’d say not enough between the ears too

[@rb343]

I think that's the real truth!

[@OGStinkywizzleteats]

I'd rather have a good luthier make me a greeny copy using old growth woods, find some authentic original pafs and still save about $30,000.

[@Guitar5986]

And it would be a far better quality instrument than anything Gibson can achieve these days.

[@baronrogers806]

*35,000. Isn't gibson stupid?

[@jonv5489]

For $6k all day long too. They’d play 1000xs better too.

[@TVoltG]

I have made a handful of good replicas. Using old wood but modern paf style pickups. A reputable builder would never charge $20 let alone $50k. But that's just me. I do have a nice tight flame maple top like a Greeny that I have saved for myself. 🤪

[@johnstewart7619]

Heritage Guitars (I mean they are the original builders technically)? Another guy who never gets the kind of credit he deserves but is a phenomenal luthier is Terry McInturff. His shop is like 25 minutes away from me and he builds awesome guitars!! 😉

[@Okla_Soft]

It’s pretty simple, Gibson doesn’t want this guitar re-sold, he mentions it several times in the video. Sure there’s no binding contract, but that’s why they just refused to sell one to Trogly in the first place. Gibson doesn’t like the 2nd-hand market selling their guitars for more than they do. They also don’t want trogly pulling it apart and showing under a microscope all the reasons it’s not worth 50k.

[@LRBerry]

For me, the Greeny is all about Peter Green and Gary Moore. The price of this is just excessive.

[@morrisonreed1]

amen , metalica did a cover of whiskey in the jar that was just plain offensive

[@calvinlee8103]

It's the Peter Green/Gary Moore Les Paul. Kirk may have bought it, but (at least in my eyes) it's never going to be the Green/Moore/Hammett Les Paul. I could win the lottery and buy one of Jimi Hendrix's guitars, but that wouldn't suddenly make it the Hendrix/Lee Strat. 100% of the people who will buy this guitar are just doing it to try and resell it for more later, plus one or two goofballs with too much spening money. Everything about this is absolutely ridiculous. "I spent 50 grand to eat spaghetti with a hundred other dudes, and one of them is in Metallica! Rock N' Roll!!! 🤘🏽🤘🏽🤘🏽"

[@knightfall9394]

You know they already released this as collectors choice #1

[@shaunw9270]

For me it's about Peter Green . I'm not surprised by the price tbh. It's aimed at rich collectors that hang them on the wall rather than players, so is priced accordingly. Gibson make plenty of other more affordable Les Pauls for regular people to actually play .

[@rooster4906]

We all know that it is not worth that money, today is not like before, there are top guitar makers and they are more than capable of making such and even better guitars that look 100% like the original Gibson and much better and certainly the price would not be 50,000 $, if this is true, the witness is the Gibson replica '59, which was built by a top craftsman, unfortunately today the late luthier Kris Derrig, the guitar was brought by Slash's manager when they were recording the legendary masterpiece Appetite For Destruction, we also know that Gibson took that guitar and made an original Gibson based on it, this story says it all, I'll repeat it, the guitar is certainly not worth that much money, but that's not the point, unfortunately it's not even intended for mortals, but for rich people and collectors, and of course I'm sure it will sell out quickly because they is only 50 pieces, for comparison, some paintings by famous painters are also not worth insane amounts of money, but we are witnesses that they are still worth it and that rich people buy them, rich people like to have such things and that is normal but Gibson runs his business the way he wants and it must be admitted that they are doing great, ok, all this makes some people angry, because guitars should be played, I agree, but who are we to judge how and on what someone will spend money and what will he do with the guitar, in the end I'm personally glad that Gibson made this, madness, three top guitarists, three legends, Peter Green & Gary Moore & Kirk Hammett, Gibson Greeny Les Paul 1959 !!! 👍👍👍

[@AnonymousBosch3158]

To be honest, I love the work of the guys involved and everything, but I am not paying 50k to see them. I am not a sucker for celebrities or important people, I think all of them are people like me.

[@thenameless3271]

Banned you? Insane. I wish I didn't have to dislike Gibson so much, they have such great history, it's a real shame how poorly they treat it. Jeez.

[@dav6rtt617]

They are a shadow of the company they once were.

[@jetcheneau5811]

They're a disgraceful company to be completely honest. I know every time I say that, I find like 3 Gibsons I lust after, but if I had to gig with them or something, I'd cover the names up on the headstocks out of pure spite. I'm still bitter over the whole Dean/Armadillo affair. How are you gonna neglect two of your most important and historic models (Flying V and Explorer) and then personally seek out to hurt one company who has done a damn good job of creating V and Explorer-inspired guitars for 40+ years while you've just created lame production models and unattainable custom models the whole time? Fuck that.

[@jetcheneau5811]

Ultimately at the end of the day though I'm more drawn to Fender and Fender-esque designs. Leo had the formula right for a working man's guitar.

[@neilpatrickhairless]

@@jetcheneau5811 Which is why if you look at a lot of gear notes, a lot of people known for playing Les Pauls recorded the song with a Telecaster

[@thenameless3271]

Fenders are much more practical instruments, there no denying that. Many of the artists who popularized Gibson have since switched over. Aside from the practical design, I just feel better about supporting Fender. You can see them try new things and reach out to new artists, and it seems to be working for them. Very few young acts pick up expensive Gibsons over the variety of modern Fenders. Epiphone is becoming a worthy competitor to Squier, but the big brands view and treat their customer base quite differently.

[@ducky63]

I was lucky enough to walk into a store here in Ireland and see hanging on the wall a Tokai Love Rock identical to the Green/Moore Les Paul. I bought it immediately, brought it home, changed the tuners, flipped the neck pickup up magnet and hey presto, I had my dream guitar. I love it. I’ve had guys offer to swap me genuine Les Pauls for it but I will never part with it and I will never mess with the headstock logo.

[@TheR00BIN]

One more step from gibson tryin to become a fancy lifestyle brand for rich people. Do you want to show of your Rolex, your porsche or your gibson to your rich buddys...

[@CutterAz]

And yet Epiphone provides a better looking and just as capable guitar for less...

[@leearft8605]

And then to top it off the guy doesn't even play........

[@ghfdt368]

My Grandfather had the luck of seeing Peter Green play in london back in 1967 in a small outdoor pub when he was still with the bluesbreakers. My grandfather said he cranked the hell out of his marshall amp he was using at that gig. Peter was so loud yet so delicate and precise it was an incredible thing to experience and his vocal talents were also incredible. I'm sure many of you who watch Trogly have never heard Peter Green play or heard his songs, check out the the bluesbreakers hard road album and the first 3 fleetwood mac albums, i think you will appreciate how much of a great musician he was and how impossibly great his tone was. He without a doubt is one of the hardest guitarists to emulate as his use of dynamics was otherworldly. It's tragic that his immense talent was puffed out early in his career due to schizophrenia. He still stands as one of the greatest blues guitarists of all time which in such a short career says a lot.

[@JCDenton95]

You’re a snob stuck in the past. “Many of you have never…” maybe don’t assume things about people, alright?? I’ve heard these albums, good for your grandfather.

[@missingremote4388]

A 1967 ☆ that's my year. BORN in the U S A. long time fan of Fleetwood Mac

[@stabzatvisionz]

There is not a guitar on this planet that is worth 50,000 dollars to me.. I don’t care who owned it or made it..

[@LRBerry]

That's exactly what my son will say when he sees this.

[@darwinsaye]

I 100% agree. And yet people are apparently now paying $200,000 for 1960 bursts and $300,000 for 1959 bursts. Utter madness.

[@SvenTviking]

@@darwinsaye Surely “59s” go from 1958-1961, because that was when they started using kiln seasoned timber.

[@darwinsaye]

@@SvenTviking I’m just referencing what they said on Emerald City Guitars yesterday. The player-grade ‘60 he was demoing was $200,000, but he said it would be almost twice that for a clean ‘59.

[@Dreamdancer11]

Yes and especially solid body electric guitars....i would say even anyone paying over 1000 bucks for one is seriously overpaying.....ad men convinced the public that solid body electrics are like acoustic guitars or violins.....utterly ridiculous.

[@andrewpappas9311]

I honestly don’t get why Gibson would just flat-out ban you from buying the guitar, you do a lot of great promotion for their stuff so this just seems ridiculous

[@andrewrigney5888]

He's a flipper, that's why lol

[@heathenwarrior2522]

@@andrewrigney5888 Why would they care? As long as Gibson gets their $$. Not like they're going to hit poverty level anytime soon

[@Tigermaster1986]

@@heathenwarrior2522 Because no company likes it when unrelated third parties make money off of their product.

[@AchillesWrath1]

Yeah but he gives them basically free advertising too

[@heathenwarrior2522]

@@Tigermaster1986 isn't that what the business is about?

[@Gary_28]

I have been fortunate enough to see both Peter Green and Gary Moore play live, for me I only associate this guitar with Gary, he had it way longer than anybody else and really put it to work! He was the best! I would love to see it find it's way back to Jack where I think it should be!

[@martijnverweij8687]

True....back to Jack Moore...thats richt

[@LekkerDops]

Hasn't taken long for Gibson to become a little or a lot arrogant again. Be careful Gibson, covid years were not normal, sales were incredible, but the newer guitar players generally aren't picking up a gibson. Don't burn us again with arrogance!

[@tinystar3010]

When was Gibson ever "not" arrogant?

[@Wargasm54]

Newer guitar players can’t afford a Gibson 🤣

[@jimherleva4541]

“Newer” guitar players will start casting their eye around at more traditional models as they get older - it’s inevitable. Nothing more stupid than seeing a 30+ year old playing a pointy neon green monstrosity - even professionally it looks stupid.

[@peejay6930]

@@Wargasm54 New guitar players are far more interested in Schecter and Ibanez because their hero's play them, there must be relatively few 14yr olds into Slash

[@KQKQ23]

I’m a gibson fan. That ban is still outrageous. I’ll be buying a strat for my next axe, and I’m putting that on record.

[@forwhomthesmelltolls]

I love both, BUT I think Fender is missing the boat versus Gibson on not having their own version of the Mod Collection or the Demo Shop. If Fender did that, I would be hooked!!

[@oneeyedlittleman]

@@forwhomthesmelltolls why would they do that when fenders are designed to be modular as is? They’ve given you everything you need to do it yourself so them doing a mod shop offers no value to anyone.

[@forwhomthesmelltolls]

@@oneeyedlittleman I'm talking more about custom finishes and art guitar paint jobs. And plus its a way they can sell their factory seconds, demos, and allow their builders a chance to have fun with the instruments. PLUS it is an attention grabber. Go to the Mod Collection release on Gibson's site every Wednesday. They get so much traffic the site basically shuts down. Fender is missing out

[@SlyRyFry]

@@forwhomthesmelltolls fender does have a mod shop?

[@fargeeks]

Or maybe a prs instead?

[@hbohm1996]

Ridiculous. A desperate ploy by a company that hasn’t had an original idea in 50 years.

[@redddogg2461]

Gibson garage is a awesome place. Was their a few months ago. Had kids and their parents walking up to me asking for autographs. Had to break their bubble I’m not a famous guitarist. Just cause I’m all tatted up and was jamming on guitars. One family wouldn’t take no that I wasn’t a famous guitarist so I had to take a pic with their 12 year old son lmao. I could live in the Gibson garage.

[@TylerJohnstonGuitar]

I’d love to see one of Kirk’s custom shop ESP’s make it onto the channel. My first guitar was a LTD KH-202.

[@f3uibeghardt522]

I'm not even a big Metallica fan, but I always thought his Ouija Board ESP was really cool back when I'd see it in guitar shops.

[@terrypussypower]

ESP guitars are brilliant! And the LTD’s aren’t far behind!

[@chrisgoblin4857]

@@terrypussypower In my opinion the Japanese ESP M-II was one of the worst guitars I've played. I was gutted because I had my heart set on one but when I played it I was really disappointed. Bought an Ibanez instead. That felt like it was worth the price.

[@JohnDoeWasntTaken]

Y'all need to look at the Japanese market ESPs to see where it really gets crazy! I imported my Snapper-7 Ohmura Custom from Japan, it's the best guitar I've ever owned! It's my first custom shop guitar and I gotta say, ESP has a customer for life now. I've always been an ESP fanboy because my favorite guitarists play them but now I know why, brilliant guitar. Shame you rarely see ESPs though on guitar channels, especially the Japanese ones. Even E-IIs aren't common.

[@TylerJohnstonGuitar]

@@JohnDoeWasntTaken Importing an Edwards is also a great way to go if you’re on a budget, Japanese guitars are just great.

[@KDWALKER1263]

Good for Gibson! It’s resellers that rip off the little guy! You guys would have bought all these guitars and resell them for 60 grand! Cheers to Gibson!

[@extraordinary_ordinary]

Yeah the price is ridiculous but it is legitimately stupid that they won't let Trogly buy one. Fuck Gibson.

[@judas2891]

Yeah, fuck Gibson.

[@Furtheronmusic]

BTW I'm pretty sure the footage of Moore in this is from the final Montreaux show long after sold the original but after Gibson had done the collectors edition replica which is what he's playing in that footage.

[@vrapparel1343]

-Selling reissue for a price of a true vintage -Have to pay upfront -Skipping retailers -Banning resellers -"we don't sell the experience" in other words avoiding taxes -and once you got one you're not allowed to sell the guitar This is just insane even by Gibson standard.

[@jetcheneau5811]

It's Ferrari dealership practices tbh

[@rtaylor1105]

if youre not " allowed" to sell it...its not yours is it..lol

[@stephenbridges2791]

Gibson is about the same ilk as Rolex. They have people lined up around the block waiting to drop 50 grand on a watch worth maybe 5. Same thing, here. At least the Rolex will look like its new.

[@alexs.9762]

TBH, Resellers should always be banned from buying limited products. They just keep pushing prices that are already high enough.

[@charlesbolton8471]

I completely agree, and it’s also big problem with concert tickets, too. I went to a concert last week. I bought my tickets as soon as they went on sale back in late June or early July. There were three price levels: $56, $76, and $96 at a venue that seats about 2,400 people. It sold out of face value tickets in less than 30 minutes. The website was so jacked up when tickets first went on sale that it didn’t even have a seating chart so you would know where the seats were that they were offering you. I picked the $96 tickets and hoped for the best. After I got through with the insanely long checkout process I logged back into the site to see if they had put up a seating chart yet, and to see if any tickets were left. The only tickets still available were reseller tickets that now ranged in price from $140-400. On a good note, my seats were in the center of the second row less than 10ft from the stage.

[@Comp3630]

WTF...I'm kinda hurt Gibson did Trogly dirty... Common Gibson, this man is a True Gibson Appreciator.

[@guitarhiker4449]

Love this guitar! I own the Vintage V100 "Lemon drop" Peter green/Gary moore version. Vintage makes a pretty good les paul for the money imo. I do like the outta phase position. This guitar came with a factory relic finish but i added some of my own touches to it and the hardware. Looks pretty cool now, but its the way it plays and sounds. Very authentic "greeny" sound i think. The nickel silver pickup covers help with the tone too a little imo. But for only $649 its the closest i will ever get to a "greeny"! Lol... Rock on!!

[@braciole7667]

I think Kirk is the PERFECT guy to own this guitar. He is a true music fan and plays the thing. It's not sitting in a showcase at the Hard Rock.

[@myoptik3x103]

It was fun to hear about the release of this instrument, even though I have zero Interest in owning such a beast.

[@sixstringer3783]

Maybe they are afraid Trogly would give it a honest review and demo and really tell the truth about the quality of the guitar 🤣

[@iancpowell]

IT's also that the Neck was rewired with Strat gauge wire... which i wonder if they did for the run.

[@davidpaul6656]

FIFTY THOUSAND!!?? WTFF!!?? What's the point of making a Greeny model and then putting the price so high!?? Only the rich will own one!!

[@draper858]

The whole thing sucks from the perspective of a normal working person that plays guitar. But hey if you allow Gibson to do it, and purchase this package it’s your own fault. Thanks for educating us Troglodytes

[@michaelblaney4461]

If you want a working mans guitar buy a Fender!

[@minnesotatomcat]

That’s way too much money for a brand new guitar. You could buy a guitar and customize it exactly for a fraction of that price.

[@martin-1965]

Yup you can buy a Vintage V100PGM (the JHS copy) for £400-£500 and just upgrade it like crazy without selling the house

[@MaddesG1]

Get an amp too head/cab and pedal-board. All that money could go towards DAW upgrades too..

[@zeusapollo8688]

Could buy a big CNC machine and make a run of them

[@dirtydanthesecretsauceman8519]

Resale prices get that high on the used market. Gibson got a little extra greedy and decided they didn’t want outsiders “taking” potential profits from them. So they set the price so high that you would never be able to to make a profit reselling. To me, this seems like a sign of the beginning of the end for the current Gibson regime.

[@PaulCooksStuff]

You could probably get the highest end custom guitar builders on the planet to build you 10 exact replicas for that money. Gibson is the new Tulip Mania.

[@jamescairns5409]

I recently found out that Peter Green’s Fleetwood Mac feature as the backing band on my great uncle Gordon Smith’s blues LP from way back in the 1960s - pretty cool stuff

[@jonathanhudak2059]

Trogly I can't believe Gibson won't let you purchase one of these! For all the advertising you do for them and promoting you think they would do the right thing and let you have dibs on one if you wanted. I think it's neat that they're offering this model but come on $50,000 is way too much money in my opinion. I guess if you're rich and money is no object and you want the closest thing to a replica or something like that but there's no way the average person would be able to afford one of these.

[@deadshot4245]

12 would be more in range to be honest like a true historic

[@RussClarkRocks]

Guitars are worth exactly what someone is willing to pay for them and sadly, some people will spend the money. They could get $100k for them if they wanted. Just unvarnished greed.

[@216trixie]

Right, high end things like this are not for your average person. That's correct.

[@thesmellycatjazz]

He's definitely thing to resale it

[@14lamnc1]

Well clearly these guitars are not for the “average people”, they’re for collectors that actually have money and there’s a lot more of those people than the majority of the people who complain about the price think

[@JTC-go3kg]

I had to return my brand new limited edition Johnny Marr jaguar In yellow fever .. for Finish issues in the nitro .. they can’t replace or refin it apparently

[@jopestv1063]

meh...for 50 grand I could get an Alex Lifeson Axxess, a decent Strat, Tele AND a good Marshall amp. Besides, I would've rather met Peter & Gary instead of Kirk anyway.

[@neilpatrickhairless]

To be fair, Kirk is a cool dude even if you don't like his band or playing.

[@zackarysmith2222]

Ok, want a cookie or something? Who cares lol

[@vadenk4433]

And still have 40k left over. It’s ridiculous

[@johndoe-xf2ih]

Rip peter

[@johnrandy7140]

@@zackarysmith2222 you got cookies? I'll take one.

[@robinr22]

I suspect there's no binding contract term because that would be unenforceable. I don't think it's legal to impose restrictions on the first sale doctrine - once an item is sold, the manufacturer has no further rights to that item.

[@eddiejr540]

Gibson has just made a whopping 2,500,000…people will buy anything 😳

[@bloxa]

Probably 1.500.000 in expenses, so they will be lucky if they make 1m on this project. Which is not much for a big company like this. More of a promotional value, I think.

[@cameronmason4452]

@@bloxa no way, these cost fuck all to build lol

[@paulcatarino2209]

This is how the marketing conversation played out in the boardroom. "Ok we sold them the Slash "Brazilian Dream" for $13K and he's only on artist. We now have the opportunity to sell "three" signature artists in one guitar. 3 artist signature (3x$13k)+ Murphy lab work + profit = $50k"

[@andrewrigney5888]

I mean Trogly’s pretty much a flipper so I don’t blame them at all for banning him lol

[@eliju420]

It won't totally keep people from flipping them, but it'll help. And that's the point people are missing.

[@Kodiak541]

I came here to say the same thing. Flipping artificially increases prices in the market. You see it with house flippers, guitar flippers. I have seen too many guitars from Gibson’s Reverb page purchased, and listed within days by flippers for considerably more money than it was on Gibson’s page.

[@J_Braz_]

If someone in the future sells theirs for a profit Gibson would sue for a percentage.

[@sailinbob11]

I'm not that stupid. I love Les Pauls,but I live on my sailboat in Tampa Bay, so guitar strings last a week,but even so... $50,000 ? Nah... Oh,and what's the deal guitar blocking Trogley 🚫 ? Kinda d**k move. Capt.Bob ,SV (Sailing Vessel) 27th Chance, Tampa Fl, USA 🇺🇸

[@Viper-dz2kw]

I cannot imagine paying 5k for a new guitar, yet alone 50 grand

[@lance134679]

These are the actions of a company that really thinks they hold all the cards and don't have to be nice to anyone.

[@Pushbakgang]

And the funny part is I bet I can find a lot of other guitars out there for 2000 that played just as good as that $50,000 guitar I've been very underwhelmed with every Gibson I've played over the years and I'm one of their biggest fans

[@frankenstrat78]

It is an insult to put his name in the same sentence as Peter Green and Gary Moore.

[@onusgumboot5565]

I was banned from buying a $50,000 guitar too. The bank wouldn't loan me the money, and even if they did, my wife would have shot me, took the money, and the insurance, after making it look like an accident, and moved on.

[@mstreech]

Gibson lost a customer for life. That’s the final straw. That’s bullshit banning you from purchasing. I’m going to assume they don’t want you telling people it’s not worth the asking price!

[@mstreech]

It’s Dean and ESP custom shops from here on out!

[@user-tz2zz5ij1s]

I’m sure Gibson is going to miss you. Everyone knows for a guitar it’s not worth 50,000. It’s a guitar. But it’s just like a Picasso that sells for over 100 million. In the end it’s just paint on paper. But it’s art and inspiring, and there aren’t that many out there. Nothing wrong if you think it’s too expensive. There are other people that think it’s worth it.

[@qaawale]

forcing them to not sell something as a condition of purchase was determined to be an unenforceable clause in many states, possibly even in a federal court. A pro wrestler bought a 600Kdollar sportscar that the manufacturer said they could sell for x-years, but he flipped it. The manufacturer sued and lost. Not sure if that was a federal precedent established or just a state law issue...

[@gethinap]

Crossing my fingers you can get your hands on one because the original is such a legend

[@alangreenway6695]

Rumour has it Green had problems with the Rhythm pickup, so he took it to a Tottenham Court Road electrical repair shop (not a guitar shop), who re-wired it with the sort of wire you wire plugs with and put it in back to front. Green liked the sound so he kept it like it.

[@YesItsReallyKeith]

i bought 3 gibson's - all disappointing... promised myself i would never buy another and them banning you just gives me one more reason not to buy ever again !!!!

[@zummo61]

To call that ‘Kirk’ is a travesty. It is Peter Green.

[@andrewc9762]

Strange that Gibson singled you out like that. I bought 2 guitars after watching your videos. They must know that you help their sales right? I'll never understand that company.

[@bobpugliese4428]

It amazes me a guitar can be sold at a ridiculous price if it contains certain words. Vintage, signature, limited,custom shop. My friend worked at fender Fullerton and we used to stop by at lunch or after work. Actually spoke to Leo a few times. We used to grab necks from the trash and sword fight. They used to toss a lot of things in the trash back then. I was fortunate I had friends who worked at fender and charvel. I also visited Karl Sandoval house a few times. During one visit I checked out Randy's polka-dot v in the build stage. It's a shame gary had to sell the guitar to pay for missed tour dates

[@scottdunbar4898]

This just in!!! Gibson moves all production facilities to Martha's Vineyard!

[@DBMorris]

😂🤣😂🤣 😝

[@Guitar-Geek]

oh yeah, they banned you absolutely fair, my friend. That story with Gibson snakepit (bought to 15K$ and then was trying to sell for 30K$) showed how such people like you could be the potential barrier between musicians and instruments, between being in private collections and being played on stage. I do really admire what Gibson did with all of those resellers and other people who do really create that vintage guitar financial bubble.

[@oh033]

Trogly also did that with the 50th anniversary ibanez guitars. Good move on gibson

[@ryanevans371]

At $50k, they aren't aiming this at working musicians....c'mon man. If you're cool with it bypassing retailers and resellers to avoid even more markup for an ultra-rare issue, that's fine....I get that piece. But let's not pretend this is Gibson in any way sticking up for the little guy or trying to "get guitars into musicians' hands"....if that were the case, they'd be a third the price, and the run wouldnt be nearly so limited. Nearly all of these things are going to end up in private collections where they're rarely played.

[@Mattormus]

Someone didn't watch the full video...

[@Guitar-Geek]

@@Mattormus oh I did, I did

[@oh033]

More guitar companies should go direct and stop selling to resellers. Cut out the middleman

[@captainhotbunz659]

Yes!!!! I’ve been wanting for this one, but not at that price.

[@bradhardisty1652]

Gary Moore was playing a P90 Gold Top when I saw him with Thin Lizzy in 77. I'm sure it was a vintage Paul. I'm not sure what year he got it.

[@gregrandallbtsr03]

Wow. This channel does so much for Gibson. I am shocked that they would cut you out, Trogly. If Gibson does not want a product re-sold, it should put that in the purchase contract.

[@JonathanHiller]

Tom used to come into my guitar shop once in a while back in the day. He's from here in southern IL, but I don't know if he's still around here or actually lives in Nashville now. At one time, he was doing his work for Gibson from his place here in IL. Nice guy, was always fun when he'd come in.

[@Eiight8]

Shame on Gibson 😔

[@drjsmajor]

Gibson makes twice as much when selling them in house. With more guitars being sold online, why do we even need resellers? Gibson (and Martin and Fender and others) can accomplish the same thing and make twice the profit. Now with Gibson even selling their returns and rejects--I suspect that is quite a profit point for them. A simple check of their Demo shop on Reverb shows 3,000 sales. If we assume they "only" made $1k per guitar (with most being much more than that)--that is $3 Million in about 2 years. A fairly handsome profit for selling rejects!

[@TheZooropaBaby]

wow 50,000 dollar and no sculpted neck joint and modern electronics? no deal

[@KALVIN123]

Por 50mil y solo en venta en la Gibson Garage, lo mínimo que espero es que el César me la entregué en mano previa plática de 15minutos.

[@content-appreciator]

Vas a tener una CENA con el GRAN KIRK HAMMET, que mas quieres coño? (sarc)

[@jefflemieux8890]

That is just NOT FAIR Austin!!! I have spent thousands on Gibson products because of your reviews!!! They should GIVE you one!! Because I’m sure I’m not alone in saying you provide a valuable service!!!

[@MrGuruYoda]

Just pretend to be a wealthy Mexican businessman Austino Trogaldino 😂

[@mrmansville9340]

This epitomises the expression “selling out”

[@DBMorris]

👍

[@number71]

So what’s up with the pickups and wiring?

[@tristianseguin3930]

Out of anyone on the planet you for sure should be allowed to buy one

[@hector_nimrod]

SOMEONE HERE BOUGHT ONE. TAKE TROGLY AS THE ONE WHO GONNA BE IN THE EXPERIENCE WITH YOU

[@JokersWild70]

Gibson is really starting to piss me off. 😡 I've owned well over $100,000 worth of Gibson's in the past 13 years. They f'd up the Mod Shop website (yet again) this morning, and now this? People running that company are idiots. I'm sorry you were treated so shabbily by them, Austin

[@jimhanty8149]

they have perfected the art of the "takeaway sale"... dont fool yourself, as they are not idiots...

[@JokersWild70]

@@jimhanty8149 I meant idiots in that they have alienated a big advocate for their company, which is ridiculous

[@Jakeman90210]

tbh I'm glad they're not sending them to resellers. Like think about it, all these people do is snatch up the guitars immediately then once they're all gone, the turn around and sell it for an even more jacked up price. They treat guitars like world series tickets. And Gibson keeps their business thriving by making these absolutely ridiculous guitars that are super limited, they know they will all sell out immediately and be flipped.

[@b00neDawg00]

Typical Gibson L

[@lastcall9998]

The acoustic guitar at the end (outro) sounds marvelous, did you play it yourself or where did you get it?

[@mallowmarkerdon8144]

I don’t even know what’s going on over there sometimes, they get a lot of hate nowadays, I just wanna see them do right. With massive price increases at fender and lay off there, it seems like a good time for Gibson so do something really cool. I saw buckethead recently and the Gibson logo is blacked out on his Les Paul.

[@davem62290]

Why would he cover their Logo? I own a few Gibsons, I would never cover the Logo...???

[@mallowmarkerdon8144]

@@davem62290 My guess, I don't think he wants anything to do with the business or the culture around them. People do put WAYYY too much focus on the headstock, but It's a shame, his signature is one of the best things Gibson did in the 21st Century.

[@ryanpetrak]

I’d hate to say it but Gibson doesn’t care about their fans

[@jukeboxj]

If I were Gibson, I'd approach you to buy one!

[@mht525]

The OG guitar is estimated to be worth "a lot more than $50k" Great to see Kirk takes the guitar on the road. No resale cuts out the scalpers, guess who. Well done Gibson🤘✌️🇦🇺

[@johnc.hammersticks]

Kirk paid 2.3 mil for greenie last time I checked but that's what real 59's are going for and you cannot re make these guitars. you can make a nice sounding guitar that looks the part but it's not even close.

[@jaredpritchard4991]

If i was you i would tell gibson to go to hell i would be done with them

[@balfaboy]

Trogs as much as I like an occasional LP or SG in my hands, them denying you?? I see you as one of the largest proponents of the brand, is insulting. You played it well and professionally on the vid with your remarks. Personally.. I would be talking to Mr. Smith about a VIP experience trip to MD. Then you can look at some gorgeous woods truly worthy of zeros at the end of the tag. And as far as anyone telling me I can not sell anything I own in my free market economy driven country…unless I am bound by an employee contract…LOL.good one. Have to say this one kind of irked me enough to leave a comment. I would love to have Kirk’s, they can keep the other 50 even for 10k.

[@michaelcosta7235]

Trying to make a quick 2.5 mil and acting like resellers are a problem?

[@stop736]

Gibson can draw up whatever “contract” they want to. And they can tell you not to sell the guitar even. But that doesn’t mean anything really. Even if it’s something you signed. Take that “contract” to any lawyer and they’d laugh at it. It means as much as the contracts businesses are making employees sign saying they can’t discuss what they’re paid with other employees. That’s not enforceable. That’s just lawyers making up a contract for a company and making it sound like it’s official and serious. But in the end, legally speaking, a company can’t tell you what you can talk about. Just like they can’t tell someone who already owns something they sold them, what they can do with that. No matter how many contracts they make you sign, it’s not enforceable. It’s barely something that could even be argued in court. And a real lawyer would have a field day with some pieces of paper a company makes you sign telling you what you can do with your own guitar. No doubt you would be dead to Gibson though after something like that! LOL. That is something they most definitely can do if they wanted. Just freeze you out. But that’s all they could do. They couldn’t get you into legal trouble though.

[@turtleshell6181]

All I play is Gibson but how they conduct themselves sometimes makes me want a prs ha

[@Joe___R]

Trogly, If you are even well off $50k is nothing & doesn't need to be liquidized. You obviously don't know many people who are above middle class. Let's just say the average person buying that guitar wouldn't bat an eye even if it was twice the price. That guitar & the whole experience included is nothing more than they would regularly spend on a weekend trip if not a bit cheap.

[@hkguitar1984]

Greetings all

[@hkguitar1984]

@Hivoltage1999 Hey there Highvoltage1999. Well darn, no Greenie for me.......................

[@sgt.grinch3299]

Greetings HK. A great day for a Trogly Show.

[@Bluums]

Would be hilarious for someone to restore it and make it look brand new

[@musicsucks6969]

For anyone who doesn’t understand why the price is so high, ever notice how every time Gibson releases an awesome limited edition guitar they always sell immediately for more money on reverb. That means Gibson didn’t charge a high enough price and could’ve got more money. That’s why they’ve been getting more and more expensive. In an attempt to reach the equilibrium price to match supply and demand. They want multimillionaires buying these things. Not us

[@nlumby]

...and yet it's the mass market that makes them the bucks ...shitty behaviour

[@sixslinger9951]

@@nlumby they sell guitars already for the mass market. quit whining

[@philipciarrocchi8146]

Gibson manipulates reissues when they can devalue previous reissues. Perfect example is the Scott Moore release from a year ago. Price was increasing rapidly so this reissue knocks that down in value. The game with the mod shop is like a place for the problem child and someone will pay more than it's worth. Sorry but Gibson has no sense of history or heritage. That sign being sold should be reissued.

[@mesoanarchy]

@@sixslinger9951 - Though flawed FAR too often. No wonder Slash’s #1 was a Kris Derrig… AND he bought it for around $2500 - which is now, $6500. Can a $6500 LP straight from the factory be flawed. As much as I love LPs, the answer is -- yes. Derrig’s were flawless.

[@SlyRyFry]

@@sixslinger9951 They really don't though. No bit of history justifies the over inflated prices. Plus the competition on the market speaks for itself, hardly any rational musician is still considering a Gibson these days. It used to be all I wanted as a beginner guitarist was Adam Jones silverburst LP, and now that they're available and I have way more knowledge on the gear available on the market its simply unjustifiable. Even with the money to do so I just can't find it in me to order one when there's so many better alternatives. You can see this trend in many musicians from my generation onward. Gibson is eventually gonna become a pickup manufacturer sooner than later and maybe make super limited runs in a custom shop. Then you have the QC in recent years and it's like why would you even want to run the risk with Gibson when you could get multiple amazing guitars or something custom for nearly the same price. Fender, Ibanez, Schecter, etc. sell guitars for the masses. Gibson makes mid tier hit or miss guitars for millionaires, established musicians, and bozos fixated on their favorite band using les pauls enough to get one overpriced guitar. I say this as someone that as a teenager would go to guitar center nearly every day just to try out les pauls. I have NEVER played on one that comes close to justifying its price, not one out of hundreds.

[@michaelcosta7235]

Wow. Fuck Gibson.

[@RandallMoore-ct5vo]

I do not understand why a tiny fb of brw adds such a insane amount to the pricetags. I have seen several different custom boutique builders and other stuff like prs,lsl ect.. with brw tops and or solid brw necks and fb with less than a tenth of the price

[@SecretIdolBand]

Trogly is the Gibson guy, blows my mind they won’t let him have one. Love the videos trog

[@kelvinklauck]

I mean, he would have just bought it, documented it and then sold it for double the price

[@andrewrigney5888]

He's a flipper

[@dboone7670]

There's a part of me that thinks they banned Trogly from buying one because they know he'll be honest about the quality. He's called them out on their lazy and shitty repros of famous guitars before. They can't have someone destroying the illusion of one of the most expensive guitars they've ever made

[@TheZooropaBaby]

@@kelvinklauck right. Trogly mentioned that people who are going to buy those are also flipping these too so I guess we gotta watch when that happened, like consequences of flipping, if that somehow exists.

[@Catocaster]

Funny isn't it when they push their YT videos about collections and people who champion Gibson. Hell they even just gave Rick a signature... fools. Let them sell their 50k guitar. My Tribute LP says hi Gibson...

[@Tom_Emody]

Wow! Gibson has turned into a steaming heap of money grabbing shit. One bad decision leads to another in Gibsons case. How unsavory of a situation.