Critiquing ALL my Golden Demon winners 10+ years later!

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In this video I go over ALL my Golden Demon winning Miniatures from 2005 to 2018 and I recap which of them held up and which of them didn't.
0:00 Intro
0:58 Nurgle Marine - Silver, 2005
7:30 Nurgle Chaos Knight - Bronze, 2005
10:56 Celeborn - Gold, 2005
13:09 B'elakor - Bronze, 2006
16:22 Ultramarines Chaplain - Gold, 2006
19:17 Khorne BErserker vs. Cadian - Silver, 2007
22:48 Bretonian Knight - Silver, 2007
25:13 Theoden - Gold, 2007
29:01 Sister Superior - Bronze, 2008
33:50 Beastmen - Bronze, 2013
36:27 Assassin vs. Rubric Marine - Silver, 2013
40:45 Kroot Collector - Gold, 2013
44:35 Arwen - Silver, 2018
47:19 Death Corpse of Krieg - Silver, 2018
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@trovarion
@trovarion 3 жыл бұрын
Which one do YOU like best? Let me know!
@AuroraDE95
@AuroraDE95 3 жыл бұрын
The kroot collector is my absolute favourite. Not only is it obviously painted marvelously, but I just love the story it tells! Such a unique and interesting concept!
@pWndConan
@pWndConan 3 жыл бұрын
That non-metalic Theoden is amasing!
@sircaledor
@sircaledor 3 жыл бұрын
Death Korps and Kroot!
@ShutUpWesley
@ShutUpWesley 3 жыл бұрын
The beastmen! And it was really cool and helpfull to see how you have improved each year!
@trovarion
@trovarion 3 жыл бұрын
@@AuroraDE95 thanks! it's probably my favourite mini to this day. Kroot offer so much fun opportunities - I still have two funny dioramas from back in the day that I should really finish...
@TheClaspingrain
@TheClaspingrain 3 жыл бұрын
You should make a video where you “repaint” a old golden demon mini, remake it from scratch in the current year then compare them side by side
@pillcosby9854
@pillcosby9854 3 жыл бұрын
That is actually a really good idea and something I would definitely watch
@matthewwinter3732
@matthewwinter3732 2 жыл бұрын
First thing I thought of when he talked about the nurgle marine.
@wpjohn91
@wpjohn91 2 жыл бұрын
Scan and print via 3d printer,?
@miniqwake7118
@miniqwake7118 2 жыл бұрын
but it's boring to paint the same subject :x
@Jackalos1
@Jackalos1 2 жыл бұрын
Would love to see that Death Guard marine converted in a similar pose and with a similar but improved look using the modern plague marine kits
@devoiceiddee7459
@devoiceiddee7459 3 жыл бұрын
It's a nice breath of fresh air seeing an artist taking pride in their work instead of ripping it apart! Very constructive for both us and you :D
@trovarion
@trovarion 3 жыл бұрын
I had those in waaaay worse memory than they are to be honest when I started the video.
@evanhughes7609
@evanhughes7609 3 жыл бұрын
"ALL my Golden Demon winners..." I am SO far out of my depth here!
@tyrannosaurus696
@tyrannosaurus696 3 жыл бұрын
I remember staring at all of these in White Dwarf wondering what wizardry was able to produce these incredible miniatures. This was really interesting, thanks man.
@woodendforager3240
@woodendforager3240 2 жыл бұрын
same. It was after I'd been out of mini painting for a few years and a friend's bro said "hey, check out the golden demon winners in this years white dwarf". I was like...woah...it's so dusty. like green but....not green. This guy is really pushing mini painting in a new direction. cool" that would have been about 2003/04. Who'd have thought I'd come across your channel all these years later.
@psykodamberdk
@psykodamberdk 3 жыл бұрын
The rubric marines sorcerors aren't dust. So it is actually lore friendly.
@joshuagraham5750
@joshuagraham5750 3 жыл бұрын
Actually, some are! None of the Scarab Occult are dust as they have a really strong Psychic connection. Some sorcerers don’t have as strong a connection.
@Tonberry88
@Tonberry88 3 жыл бұрын
@@joshuagraham5750 Where does it say some Sorcerors are dust? The lore that I've always seen is only the non-psychic Thousand Sons turned to dust and all Psykers got buffed.
@ufc990
@ufc990 3 жыл бұрын
@@Tonberry88 That's how I understood it as well
@busterbackster1
@busterbackster1 3 жыл бұрын
@@Tonberry88 from what I remember it's been changed that all the TS are psykers in some way and only the strong ones didn't change
@Jackalos1
@Jackalos1 2 жыл бұрын
@@busterbackster1 Are the ones that changed still psykers though? I'm not too familiar with modern 40k lore
@destinyblossoms
@destinyblossoms 3 жыл бұрын
I remember seeing the last 2 in person! It was when I got a commended award for my first entry and was so inspired after seeing your work. Sadly didn't get to meet you though.
@shannonsteven3982
@shannonsteven3982 Жыл бұрын
That Death Corp at the end is amazing. The detailing on the coats is unreal
@10Archangel01
@10Archangel01 3 жыл бұрын
The kroot collector is beautiful as well as the death Kreig horseman....damn nice
@11nephilim
@11nephilim 3 жыл бұрын
I remember being super impressed with those beastmen back when I saw them. The paint job is great, but what really made me think "wow" was how great the sculpts were. I've mucked around with green stuff a fair bit and I can't imagine sculpting detailed anatomy like that 5 times over and having it look consistent across the entire squad.
@tokoloshgolem
@tokoloshgolem 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Very brave to critique your own work. That 2018 entry at the end is phenomenal.
@Dylanquinn666
@Dylanquinn666 3 жыл бұрын
I really really like the design of the Nurgle Marine. Don't get me wrong, GW's sculpts for the modern Death Guard are great, but I really like the simplicity in this design without the need for gore, mutations or huge horns. It's refreshing. It has a WW2 feel that I think has been overshadowed in modern Death Guard.
@trovarion
@trovarion 3 жыл бұрын
yes, I love the simplicity too.
@Zydlik7
@Zydlik7 3 жыл бұрын
A rubric is dust, but there's always a sorcerer with them who is still an astartes.
@ecMonify
@ecMonify 3 жыл бұрын
man, those beastmen are definitely my favourites! love the idea of them wearing banners as loincloths and wielding those beautiful shields
@marauder7209
@marauder7209 3 жыл бұрын
Me: "Holy shit, that is one gorgeous miniature, I love it!" You: "Yeah, the freehand here is rather... naive.." Me: "Did I stutter?!"
@VieneLea
@VieneLea 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this video! I'm not painting miniatures or anything, but it was so enjoyable to listen to an artist-craftsman criticising their past job!
@quid8031
@quid8031 3 жыл бұрын
this is one of my favourite painting related vids on youtube, to see the progression and style changes was really informative, a video diary of painting a golden demon would be amazing
@AuroraDE95
@AuroraDE95 3 жыл бұрын
Die Minis, die ich male, sehen so ziemlich so aus wie jene alten, die du am Anfang gezeigt hast. Auch wenn du damit nicht mehr wirklich zufrieden bist und viel zu kritisieren hast, gibt mir das total viel Hoffnung für meine eigene Zukunft und Entwicklung. Natürlich weiß ich nicht, ob ich jemals so gut werden kann wie Du (X doubt), aber da ich dich und dein Talent als Künstler so respektiere, motiviert mich dieses Video mega! Super interessantes Video. Danke dafür. :) Bin froh, dass Du dich entschieden hast so viel Hintergrundinfos zu geben.
@WillReynolds88
@WillReynolds88 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing video. Thanks so much. I get a huge amount of value from listening to an artist actually talking about what went into their work., Inspirations and what they think about it now. Your early style reminds me of the Italian painting technique sfumato that was used by the greatest painters!
@KujoPainting
@KujoPainting 3 жыл бұрын
Got this sudden vision of you in your basement saying 'It puts the brown shade on the mini else it gets the hose again.'
@trovarion
@trovarion 3 жыл бұрын
Lmao
@KujoPainting
@KujoPainting 3 жыл бұрын
@@trovarion great video btw.
@aidanmagill6769
@aidanmagill6769 3 жыл бұрын
Doesn't rhyme.
@NuffleBlasphemer
@NuffleBlasphemer 3 жыл бұрын
As a recent subscriber, I didn't realise you were such an impressive sculptor as well as a master painter! Really inspiring video, thanks
@blacksheepboy
@blacksheepboy 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing your toughts! I think this video was super interesting. Fun to see how you go back to certain techniques like shading with brown in several entries. That gives a specific look overall in my opinion, really kool!
@piesandhiking4943
@piesandhiking4943 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing models matey, well done! LOVE those beastmen
@AlexLusth
@AlexLusth 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video, really like the in depth long format commentary!
@Hiltomatt
@Hiltomatt 3 жыл бұрын
Patreon supporter not only for your painting techniques but for your analysis of a piece. It’s a chance to view your knowledge and understanding of the craft. Thanks so much
@sstinger0137
@sstinger0137 3 жыл бұрын
I learned a lot by listening to professional style feedback. Thank you for taking the time to review these works.
@Zickzag
@Zickzag 3 жыл бұрын
That deathcorps of krieg and the kroot collector are just amazing. Thank you for sharing this!
@TheHamtie007
@TheHamtie007 3 жыл бұрын
And here i am trying to get a straight highlight on an outstanding bit of cloth. Damn. Absolutely loved that Theoden model.
@christoph8178
@christoph8178 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, hab deinen KZbin Kanal gerade endeckt und bin begeistert !!! Oida ! Du hast es echt drauf !!! Hab nach vielen jahren Pause wieder mit Mini painting begonnen und bin happy das es so tolle videos gibt ! Liebe Grüße aus der Steiermark
@josualai6630
@josualai6630 3 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed every minute! Thanks 🙏🏽
@zanmatoshin877
@zanmatoshin877 3 жыл бұрын
I'd have to say your krieg piece is my favourite. I actually love both the horse color and the dust aswell, both was very important for drawing me in! Theoden is really nice aswell, the brightness on the top of his forehead and hair really make me feel the light🙂 Fantastic pieces!
@rossovivominiatures9560
@rossovivominiatures9560 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, it's very interesting to see your long artistic way through all your winning entries. My favorites are the Beastmen and Theoden ! Thanks for sharing.
@Ahivalaostia88
@Ahivalaostia88 3 жыл бұрын
Theoden looks awesome, one of my favourite minis since release, and you painted it like a true master.
@AdnanCucak
@AdnanCucak 3 жыл бұрын
I loved this video, I really like these "breakdown" style videos!
@nilsanderssen860
@nilsanderssen860 2 жыл бұрын
Love it and the format! Thank you for making it!
@trovarion
@trovarion 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoy it!
@maniac-eye336
@maniac-eye336 3 жыл бұрын
Super Sache Christoph! Find ich toll, dass du auch deine werke nach Jahren nochmal beäugelst und einen Entwicklungsprozess erkennen kannst. Das zeigt uns alle das wir immer nur besser werden können wenn wir es just-doin (-; Danke für das Video wie immer. grüsse aus dem Waldviertel
@gregq8
@gregq8 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, not only is it a blast from the past to the early 2000's when I would religiously browse the GW site for hobby inspiration, but it is great to see a compilation of all your winning models in one place.
@Arrrghjay84
@Arrrghjay84 3 жыл бұрын
Ahh these are all so great! Height of my Warhammer obsession was 2002-2010, (entered UK Golden Demon a few times but no joy) so major nostalgia here. Glad to have found your channel :)
@AndICanTalk2
@AndICanTalk2 3 жыл бұрын
I think this was fascinating. Great stuff. Keep pushing the envelope. Loved it.
@MsBlood01
@MsBlood01 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great video it was awesome to hear you talk about what you where thinking at the time and to see how your style for competition changed over time. Would love to see for videos on your conversions and sculptures
@MrJONESY412
@MrJONESY412 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video! Great to see your journey and lots of interesting and useful knowledge passed on! 👌🏼
@chim3ric4l
@chim3ric4l 3 жыл бұрын
These were super cool to see! Thanks for sharing :-) It's interesting to note the themes and techniques that matter and those that don't in that competition.
@blaze556922
@blaze556922 8 ай бұрын
You're clearly very talented as well as humble. Your work is amazing and thank you for sharing it with us and giving such honest opinions. I love the minotaurs and Kroot collector the most
@ImaginationHobbies
@ImaginationHobbies 3 жыл бұрын
Great work! Amazing sculpting and freehand. Great nmm. Love the Bret and the last one the most.
@joecwright
@joecwright 3 жыл бұрын
Top video as always man, really helpful to see how you progressed as an artist, it gives us all hope. I personally really liked the Theoden paint job :)
@Robertthebob
@Robertthebob 3 жыл бұрын
So cool, like them all! Never played any 40k but had fun painting a while back.
@theharrower
@theharrower 3 жыл бұрын
I like the last one the best. The pale horse looks better for contrast and I like the dry dusty look to it. You are an amazing painter. Thanks for doing this one.
@sshim950
@sshim950 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this; I enjoyed watching : )
@PlasticAddict301
@PlasticAddict301 Жыл бұрын
It's very refreshing to see artists who talk good about and have faith in their own work. As an artist for video games, it is very common for artists to talk down on their own work. You give rational, thought-out reasons for things you could have improved on back then. Its obvious to see how you are such an accomplished painter. Cheers!
@gaeldelomenie8003
@gaeldelomenie8003 3 жыл бұрын
i started sculpting and painting figurines recently and your videos are such a great help and seeing what can be done at a high level is definetly motivating. i would love some more sculpting tutorials! i'm sorry that my fellow french gave you a hard time, but don't mind us, fussing is a way of life for us... anyway, thanks for sharing you knowledge and experience. as you said, you tube tutorials such as yours makes progressing so much easyer.
@marcopritoni7182
@marcopritoni7182 Ай бұрын
Great video. I like the retrospective.
@1Corinnek
@1Corinnek Жыл бұрын
Absolutely amazing work, love the collector! He's amazing!
@Alagachak
@Alagachak 3 жыл бұрын
You keep being amazing Trov, nice to see all thoose minis. I still need to learn to art :P
@trinkjoghurt9077
@trinkjoghurt9077 3 жыл бұрын
That was a really nice idea for a video. And your new studio looks great, by the way :-)
@liruichen
@liruichen 3 жыл бұрын
I appreciate your deprecatory restraint! Fan for life!
@chrishill2767
@chrishill2767 3 жыл бұрын
dafuk dude. so critical of your old work. was still amazing.
@jeanettec.569
@jeanettec.569 3 жыл бұрын
Wow. Tolle entries und sehr verdient gewonnen. Ich finde nicht, dass man als Künstler zu hart sein muss. Die Selbstzweifel sind ja eh immer mit dabei. :D Super interessantes und hilfreiches Video, grad für jemanden wie mich, der grad ins Mini-malen einsteigt, aber schon 25 Jahre anderes Zeug malt. Ich werde mich jetzt erstmal auf value shading stürzen. Da ich Thousand Sons anmalen will, muss ich mir um Skintones erstmal weniger Gedanken machen. Und dein Kätzchen.
@johannisson77
@johannisson77 3 жыл бұрын
I am here to see you, the content you make in all its form are awesome. Keep it up!
@RobUnwraps
@RobUnwraps Жыл бұрын
I really like the Kroot Collector. Well done!
@ChrisOsberg
@ChrisOsberg 3 жыл бұрын
I really appreciated seeing this collection. It's very interesting and cool to see.
@johnmarshall4156
@johnmarshall4156 3 жыл бұрын
Love to see you doing a series re-imagining your early works
@connorsutton8745
@connorsutton8745 3 жыл бұрын
Great quality video both in editing and video quality and information! Really like the videos focused on the theory of painting,
@benpeters9289
@benpeters9289 3 жыл бұрын
So many great models. So much talent!
@michaelcoull8590
@michaelcoull8590 3 жыл бұрын
Those 2013 Beastmen are my favourite (so far at least...) Absolutely love those - as you say they tell a story, and I love the general style of them. Gorgeous!
@Aquilalias
@Aquilalias 3 жыл бұрын
While I was watching some other video I had the itch that I know your face and with this video it actually confirms it since I know most of those older models from being displayed in the GW! I remember you giving me some tips for my Youngbloods model I was painting at that time. Great that you are doing well, awesome paint-jobs.
@trovarion
@trovarion 3 жыл бұрын
Cool!
@mortengronemann5544
@mortengronemann5544 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing video!
@caps8419
@caps8419 3 жыл бұрын
The Kroot was my favorite. Great job!
@TKs3DPrints
@TKs3DPrints 3 жыл бұрын
awesome video we kind of forget the perspective of the models when we see them in video. its when you have them in your hands is when you realise the details and blends etc. we all would be proud to have just one golden demon award you should be proud of all your models. remember paints and brushes and tools have changed over the time. everything you have done is awesome.
@AL-zy1zh
@AL-zy1zh 3 жыл бұрын
Great content overall. Keep up the great work.
@michaelbeach4652
@michaelbeach4652 3 жыл бұрын
They are all incredible wow. Very nice. Thanks
@ghostoflazlo
@ghostoflazlo 3 жыл бұрын
Third time watching this video Love the tone and the miniatures Learning so much just hearing you talk about your tought process! Thank you for awesome videos and great inspiration
@8-bite393
@8-bite393 Жыл бұрын
Your hairstyle is very unique !!! Chapeau
@frannyfranfrancis
@frannyfranfrancis 3 жыл бұрын
Congrats on the past awards, even more for being able to call out your own flaws and the knowledge to fix it.
@boblemand
@boblemand 3 жыл бұрын
Oh boy, I love that Bretonnian knight!
@mikeparker9812
@mikeparker9812 3 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed that. The knight on the horse and the Kroot were awesome... and you should've won with your beastmen I think.
@DuceDesigns
@DuceDesigns Жыл бұрын
The jump in quality of painting across all levels of the hobby thanks to KZbin blows my mind. I consider myself an OK painter (after 20 years on and off 🤣) and whilst your work from the mid 2000's was exceptional at the time that's about the level I'm at now, like a lot of other people, whereas you are actual leagues ahead putting out some incredible work.
@marcusdecull4473
@marcusdecull4473 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing work. You deserved every single award. Outstanding stuff.
@trovarion
@trovarion 3 жыл бұрын
thanks!
@Otter_in_water
@Otter_in_water 3 жыл бұрын
Love the kitty! best painting companions.
@dekai7992
@dekai7992 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing stuff. Although it's weird to see these models today again, remembering seeing and marveling at them on the pages of White Dwarf so many years ago. It's like travelling back in time to the age of 5th edition 50k.
@diceassault
@diceassault 3 жыл бұрын
Super Video!!! Und das Beste: Hab jetzt voll Bock zu Pinseln... :-) Dankeschöööööööööööön!
@Zizi_top
@Zizi_top 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing video. Thank you!
@Richiemouse
@Richiemouse 3 жыл бұрын
This was a really, really interesting vid. It's always good to listen to a master craftsman.
@dennislidstrom8835
@dennislidstrom8835 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome vid! Would love to see a similar vid with your old Rackham figs. Story time of how/if Rackham changed anything for your journey as a artist.
@draklithsDen
@draklithsDen 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent work Demons are well deserved, great job man
@TheManAmongAll
@TheManAmongAll 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video 👌 and appreciate you critiquing you’re old work for us 👍
@darklros
@darklros 3 жыл бұрын
That Death Corps of Krieg rider is definitely the pinnacle of what you're showing in this video, love the comp, the figures and the base ! For a honorable mention I would pick the kroot riding the krootox ^^ I remember having seeing it in a White Dwarf mag ^^
@nilsanderssen860
@nilsanderssen860 3 жыл бұрын
Great video :) Thanks!
@Bibidulit
@Bibidulit 3 жыл бұрын
Nice, i rly like the critiques! pls do more !
@youtousim
@youtousim 3 жыл бұрын
Very inspiring! Really dig the stories you tell with all the entries. With regards to the Beastmen: Maybe some dirt on the worn Cloth would have been a nice contrast to the overall imperial cleanliness.
@Gunnlaugr11
@Gunnlaugr11 3 жыл бұрын
I love your LOTR mini paint jobs - it would be great to see a video of you tackling one, especially given how small they are.
@hobohobbit2497
@hobohobbit2497 3 жыл бұрын
thank you for sharing all of this.
@reubenhamer2932
@reubenhamer2932 3 жыл бұрын
its acc insane, i remember half of these, and to know you did them is crazy.
@CTFlink
@CTFlink 3 жыл бұрын
watching this video certainly was a humbling experience. It's really funny having a look at a model and only thinking "wauw this is amazing". And then afterwards finding out about all these things you didn't see or understand beforehand. When you critiqued Arwen's face I was shocked. But then hearing the arguments I understood what could be changed.
@rodrigofarruguia1708
@rodrigofarruguia1708 3 жыл бұрын
Very clean freehand can see the improvement as you win through the years, clearly see the blending improvement. Don't think a lot of them will place so high today. I like the kroot , kreig, and some aspects of the chaos marine and assassin .
@DirtyMiniatures
@DirtyMiniatures 3 жыл бұрын
A very interesting watch. Nice to hear you analyze paint jobs. More like this!
@MrMeen
@MrMeen 2 жыл бұрын
You forgot the brown on the Cadian Troopers shorts :P Amazing work man.
@liamroche1295
@liamroche1295 3 жыл бұрын
Really interesting retrospective.
@Demonthya
@Demonthya 2 жыл бұрын
This video was, in my opinion, really ineresting ! My favorite was the Kroot one
@Freitschi
@Freitschi 3 жыл бұрын
Grenz geniale Minus , bin froh einige davon Live,im gw, gesehen zu haben! Und dass eine mini von mir im selben gw ausgestellt war 😁😁
@dennisfoulds3941
@dennisfoulds3941 2 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed it very much.
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