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Troy (2004)
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[@marchboy37]

Man, just in one day I saw battle scenes of Lord of the Rings, Hobbit and now Troy. And in all comment sections people were saying how bad Battle of Winterfell was.

[@Shatter149]

try it on 300

[@connor9295]

@@SexkeksProducts Yeah, but it's a universal opinion. Nothing is gained from the continuous repetition. Do people still think it's edgy and cool to hate of GoT, and that's why they keep posting it everywhere?

[@Z95HeadHunter]

@@connor9295 Game of Thrones was great, but that final season was truly awful. And the tactics in Winterfell were honestly the worst I've ever seen. It was like the defenders wanted to commit mass suicide and have no chance of winning.

[@Universal..]

Homer in the Iliad and the Odyssey speaks only of Danaans, Achaeans, Argians and not of Greeks. The Hellenes (tribe of Southern Thessaly also called Argos Pelasgians), at his time, did not constitute yet a people or a Nation (Thucydides I,3). He affirms in the Iliad that "Zeus is Pelasgians and dodonean" (XVI,234). Precisely these Pelasgians (🇦🇱) were considered by all the ancient Greek authors as "the first inhabitants of Greece" before "The arrival of the Hellenes (🇬🇷)"! Another word that was misunderstood or glossed over. Indeed the Greeks arrived from somewhere because they were not indigenous. As they did not come from the North ( one wanted to make us believe the opposite), they could only be foreigners coming from elsewhere. It is this elsewhere which is difficult to define very precisely. But the legends, which are only embellished, idealized or metaphorized historical facts, give us some precious indications on the first foreign ethnic groups having occupied the country of the Pelasgians: the Danaans (Egyptians from whom the Dorians descend), the Cadmeans (Phoenicians) and the Pelopides (Assyrians). Among the peoples of archaic Greece the Ionians, Aeolians and Arcadians were descendants of the Pelasgians, indigenous populations conquered by the Hellenic invaders: they could claim to be indigenous populations. Now Herodotus explains very well that the Ionians were Pelasgians who, after having rubbed shoulders with the Greeks and learned their language, became full-fledged Hellenes... The Ionians were thus a fraction of the Pelasgians people (🇦🇱) having adopted the civilization of the Hellenic invaders (🇬🇷), assimilated their culture and integrated their ethnicity ( Herodotus I,56,57,58/VIII,44 ). Etc .

[@florians9949]

I love how the greeks, despite being under heavy archer fire, doesn’t make use of their giant shields to pretect themselves.

[@Haylash8]

There are some movies that will never get old.

[@rhettosbment2384]

Must be nice to just chill in the back and wait it out

[@tuannguyen927]

archers and troops in the back

[@jamesjavellana5]

You still have to take part and push the greeks out for the counter attack

[@piooppos9614]

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[@piooppos9614]

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[@morax1030]

It is what it is

[@madronnie9725]

I like how the Apollonian Guard uses a very similar tactic that the Romans used by throwing the javelins to break the shield wall before charging forward

[@Killzoneguy117]

I fine there's a bunch of neat little nods to the whole Aenid and the Roman belief in Roman descendancy from Troy

[@johnnyavalos9109]

Roman is Troy. No wonder Roman conquer the Greeks. It's like they knew Greek weakness.

[@marvin_demon]

​@@johnnyavalos9109the Greek weakness was fighting among eachother. Macedon really took that as an advantage. The greeks fought so many proxy Wars. That was their downfall.

[@amitkenan3878]

There is a legend that a Trojan received a prophecy according to which the Trojans would establish a nation that would conquer the destroyers of their city

[@GirthyBigMac]

Hector is still one of my favorite protagonists to this day... true embodiment of heroism

[@florians9949]

Yeah unlike his bitchass of younger brother Paris, those two trully embodie the saying ‘from hero to zero’.

[@aaronjaeger6861]

Well he wasn't even a bad guy.

[@masktuxedo77]

Yes. And Achilles was absolutely a villain who murdered a vast number of people for his vain personal reason. Such a stark contrast yo Hector.

[@nelliethursday1812]

If only he could have made his brother keep his dick in his loin cloth 😅

[@FilipMoncrief]

@@aaronjaeger6861literally no one in this story is a bad guy

[@Kenji_Penny]

2:04 this part gave me chills, the dude calling the apalonians and they fought like animals, very sick.

[@Vikingr4Jesus5919]

I think it's spelled Apollonians, from the god Apollo. By that I'd assume they must be that unique soldier type. Ya know, - Born into Apollo's temple or brought in at infant age - Trained to be nothing but the guard of Apollo's temples and lands - Trained in all manners of combat; heavy, light, flanking, close combat, sword and spear and javelin... - Unwaveringly loyal to Apollo and the city of Troy.

[@proantagonist5042]

@@Vikingr4Jesus5919so essentially an elite force like the marines

[@samg8939]

@@proantagonist5042 ehhh sure. specialist shock infantry

[@theamorphousflatsch2699]

​@@samg8939 looked more like heavy peltasts, throwing javelines to break up the shield wall and then rush the gaps with axes and swords.

[@samg8939]

who asked you anything fgt

[@Michaelkayslay]

Charging a city with no siege equipment into a massive block of men , backed up by hundreds of archers raining death on you with no response... now that’s soldiering

[@joecobb5520]

In this age the best you were getting in terms of siege equipment is a poorly made ram. Now take into account they came by sea not a lot of options for building a ram especially since the trojans were using fire in the start so it wouldn't of worked out well. Then the final point the greeks couldn't even get close to the gate. Bronze age was pure brutality fight to the last man.

[@hfar_in_the_sky]

@@joecobb5520 "Bronze age was pure brutality fight to the last man." This comment gave me a headache. No, siege warfare in the bronze age was not "pure fighting to the last man." The most common tactic was to simply starve the defender out, with battering rams and scaling ladders being employed if it was deemed necessary to scale the walls. And we have found depictions of such equipment being used as far back as the Old Kingdom of Egypt, not to mention the apparent siege trenches around Gath dating back to the 9th century BCE. You say that the greeks would not have had time or the resources to build siege equipment, because they just landed. Except if they set up for a siege, YES THEY WOULD HAVE. Which is also reasonable because if this was actually the original story of the Trojan War, it would have gone on for TEN YEARS. It's fine to enjoy this scene. But it's important to recognize it for the pure Hollywood action schlock that it is and not an accurate depiction of bronze age warfare

[@samg8939]

@@hfar_in_the_sky The siege of the ficticious city of Troy took place in the 12th or 13th century before the magical baby Christ was born. None of that siege equipment other than MAYBE ladders seems to have been recorded ever being used in war at that time. Which doesn't any make sense to me. They have bronze things, they mastered the rocks, built sea faring ships, rode on chariots, the simple battering ram wasn't invented until 500+ years later?

[@connorwheatley5640]

​​@@hfar_in_the_sky aye. Talk of realism when speaking of War Epics like this are futile IMO once you actually start to learn about what pre gunpowder warfare was like. Most casualties in battle happened in the rout, not exactly dramatic cinema to watch a few minutes of Push and then watch Cavalrymen run down a bunch of levies with broken morale.

[@hfar_in_the_sky]

@@connorwheatley5640 Yep. And it would have been even less dramatic with sieges, where most casualties would have been due to starvation and disease rather than fighting

[@Wolf10media]

The way the arrows scream always sends chills down my spine and goosebumps in my skin. The sound quality was epic.

[@ashtonhaggitt216]

Whistle shots were used to cause panic and fear in superstitious troops (most armies of antiquity were extra superstitious) and it worked quite well.

[@TheDrunkHamster]

@playstation3.508 they also scared horses and especially Elephants. The Elephants would freak out and run through their own guys

[@Dionysus784]

people felt the exact opposite way back then

[@emperorpalpatine5298]

Good thing borohimr told them to retreat. He knows a thing or two about arrows.

[@apolloluciano5723]

Its ned stark too

[@midorigreen7244]

@X Ronixx X No, it isn't. Its Mad Eye Moody's fault for being an abusive partner, Legolas was the hero.

[@Vinayakvs]

Too bad, Bruce Banner didn’t turn green :(

[@Will.Flavell]

And William Stryker thought his army could move forward while getting showered by arrows

[@chairmanmeow2355]

@X Ronixx X Don't blame Balian he just finished fighting the Muslims in Jerusalem

[@XiangYu94]

0:02 waking up every Monday morning

[@ελγρεκο]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@petertomszabo6268]

OMG xDDD Made my day... or... Night :D

[@groinBlaster31]

Better than battle of winterfell

[@DennisMo580]

Looks like some people learned how to fight under cover of arrows and the advantages of a castle.

[@frankiehernandez6232]

I know right,this is the perfect strategy for small army to take on larger armys, troops from ranks to in front forming a strong left and right and center and hold their ground while archers sofen up or destroy oncoming enemies to elevate pressure on the left,right,and center. take notes game of thrones.

[@nalindesilva9337]

Dennis Mo No dothraki were secretly Japaneese that wanted to honour the empress with a bonzai raid 😌

[@koreancowboy42]

@@frankiehernandez6232 though battle of winter fell, your talking about the undead army they can pile up and climb over each other to just kill anything.

[@jasonsantos6430]

Idk man, it's kind of similarly weird. It's not exactly HBO's Rome realism wise. Now that's a show with realistic battles. This is still neat though, after all it doesn't have to be perfect or anything to be a good battle.

[@MrArbeter]

This is how you do a war scene . Got talking about 80 000 soldiers only shows like 4k . When Hector says 40 000 we actuallly saw 40k on screen

[@frozengalaxyv5707]

Hating GOT isn't a personality trait

[@MrArbeter]

@@frozengalaxyv5707 whut? I don't hate got lol am a fan

[@christiannava1448]

@@b.sylphaen This is hands down one of the best battle scenes. You must be trolling to call it small. Hundreds of people were actually used to film the scene and in storyline terms there are approximately 75000 soldiers fighting in this scene. Can you name any pre-modern battle scenes that portray a smaller force defeating a larger one? One that isn't "boring" either.

[@christiannava1448]

@@b.sylphaen The reason there aren't people fighting in the city and on the walls is because the Trojans decisively defeated the Greeks in this battle. It would have been very difficult for the Greeks to get inside because the Trojan war takes place before siege engines existed in Europe. Agamemnon, was overconfident of his army's capabilities. Instead of cutting off Troy and starving them into submission he acted out of emotion due to Hector killing his brother. Helms Deep is a great battle but the final charge is bull crap. Cavalry can't possibly charge down a steep slope and into pikemen without taking heavy losses. Regardless of the blinding magical thing Gandalf did.

[@-CloClo-]

40k? That’s a lot of people acting in this.

[@usersays8599]

i love how whenever the heros square off against each other, every soldier stops fighting and watch like it's a UFC fight lol

[@erueru6101]

No doubt, they're witnessing the duel among the strongest warriors in their time. I would even pay to be there as well.

[@SarudeDanstorm]

Honorable duels between heroes was a big thing in the Iliad

[@Naldo2001]

Only if we had these Trojan soldiers and Archers defending Winterfell! or Plan the defense of Winterfell.

[@forrestpenrod2294]

Do people seriously not understand that between their limited resources, time, and men there was no strategy that would’ve worked against army of the dead which also had a dragon? The only thing they could do was hope to draw the night king out and kill him.

[@ramdom-yy4wy]

@@forrestpenrod2294 Dumb & very stupid excuse lol

[@stefanstadler4925]

@@forrestpenrod2294 >send in all the cavalry to their doom >put your siege weapons at the very front >put your troops in front of your trenches >don't have any archers until the dead are World War Z-ing the walls Good

[@forrestpenrod2294]

Stefan Stadler the trench had to completely encircle Winterfell. If they dug it further out it may not have been competed in time. The Unsullied nor the siege equipment would have fit behind it. Archers were already in position by the time dead broke through. Honestly this battle has its flaws, some of which I choke up to poor directing/writing, while other parts suit the situation they’re in and the leadership they have, but for the most part what’s great about it outweighs the negatives. These days the hate bandwagon is the hip thing on the internet. The way I see it though is we’re going to get the book version of it eventually anyways. Plus the payoff for what happened in so 3 has yet to come.

[@stefanstadler4925]

@@forrestpenrod2294 it's valid criticism. Everything you said was nice, but it still doesn't explain why they would even think about putting their troops behind a barrier which supposedly could hold the dead off. And why do the defenders even have siege equipment? The only fired once and it didn't even do much. Pretty cynical that you brush off any criticism as hate bandwagon, I could just as easily say that chug everything D&D makes down like it's a glas of water on a hot day.

[@jherrenor]

Agamemnon's scream is proof that he actually did have a heart despite seemingly only caring about himself and no one else.

[@camilog20d12]

Why

[@kingkongchief1177]

Cause his brother was killed in front of him lmao@@camilog20d12

[@LordSiravant]

@@camilog20d12 Because he had just watched his brother Menelaus die in front of him.

[@Sybrakos1]

It was feral scream, which is kinda ironic. He said he build a nation from snake eaters and his primitive scream was a perfect signal for others to attack in primitive way like cavemen.

[@richardtaylor1652]

​@@LordSiravant As soon as Menelaus hit the dirt, Agamemnon turned the war from one of conquest to personal revenge.

[@eddyblanco7210]

Hector is a genuine, bonafide BAD ASS

[@mrmarkgor6604]

I can't believe Sean Bean survived the Battle of Troy

[@Alvin_Vivian]

He survived the entire Trojan War.

[@paulspuppetshows746]

Without his survival there would be no Odyssey story

[@peytonbergman5860]

I would never want to be in the front of the charge, your job is literally just try and jump over their shields to break their formation

[@valkyviktor3228]

Technically that was your job when your at the front charge. Oh and you may need to try your best to survise by not get stab of tramb by your own troop.

[@rojay1214]

Who are these guys in movies running way out ahead of the pack?? What’s the plan there?

[@kaliyuga1476]

that's why no one will remember your name

[@sanguineaurora8765]

Not in real battles though... That is nothing like a real ancient battle.

[@toxichammertoe8696]

Its a movie, they didnt do that in real life

[@sheeyanramos]

Once or twice a month, I just go back to this video and rewatch it. Makes me happy, really.

[@ethanharmer5151]

Literally every KZbin video involving a big battle has some comment completely bashing the Long night. Well done dumber and dumber. Well done.

[@brodhax6148]

Yo im just stopping to tie my sandal, yall go ahead, ill catch up (runs away)

[@bboymonk3y]

*gets executed for desertion*

[@brodhax6148]

@@bboymonk3y by who? They busy. If I run off across the country, aint nobody coming to look for me. Aint no internet or ID's. Anyone ask me where im from, ill say Italy. Bonjourno!

[@brodhax6148]

@Rohypnol The entire war itself is a sham. What honor is there in fighting (and dying) for a shitty cause? None. Achilles himself was disgusted by his king. I think its shameful to fight for someone who has no respect. Do not accomplish the goals of evil people

[@brodhax6148]

@Rohypnol Thats fine. But context matters. No soldier should do something wrong just because they are ordered to. Its important to have smart soldiers. Not obedient soldiers. FYI, RE the trojan war. The wife of the King of Mycenae (Helen of Troy is her name) ran off with the son of the King of Troy. The King of Mycenae was an absolute bastard who everyone hated (including Achilles). But he was insulted his wife ran off. So he ordered his entire army to attack Troy. Thus the trojan war. As a soldier, I dont give a shit about getting his wife back. Thats not a reason for war

[@toxichammertoe8696]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@jerome0929]

And thats how you beat an Army that out numbers you. Not saying Winterfell could had won but at least have the best strategy possible only to show that even with all the advantages, the overwhelming numbers of the dead were to much at the end. Funny facts Ned Stark and Master Pycell were Generals in the greek Army. While lord commander Mormoth was a general for the troy army.

[@jsong768]

His exactly did this scene show how to defeat an army that outnumbers you? For some reason, these armies fighting defensive battles sure like to fight outside of their castle walls instead using it and forcing their enemies to try to breach through the gate or climb thr walls. Especially with walls as famous as Troy, not sure what business they have outside the gates.

[@jarlnils435]

@@jsong768 It was a matter of honor to fight outside the walls. In ancient times the armis often fight outside to protect their families inside

[@greenglassman]

@@jsong768 remaining inside the wall allows the enemy to deploy siege equipments, and the best you can deploy it is near the doors, where usually walls are weaker. Like this, they forced the Greeks through an unpassable choke point.

[@jsong768]

@greenglassman given the environment the Greeks had landed in in this movie, a siege would've been the absolute worse scenario. It's literal dessert they would be worn down from the climate and lack of food/water too quickly. No access to wood to build siege equipment so all of their building materials had to come with their ships

[@greenglassman]

@@jsong768 that because the setting is stupid, Troy even in the Iliad was full of forests, rivers and cultivable lands all around it. Even irl the land where they found its ruin is like that. No one builds a such huge city in the f desert.

[@karllosikarlstadt5214]

Ah age of mythology, still best game.

[@petertomszabo6268]

:) Forever !

[@alejandrop.s.3942]

Etimos.

[@HVLLOWS1999]

Agamemnon Yelling in the beginning has my balling every time!🤣

[@Lintahlo]

Are we ever going to get movies like this again? Feels like we won’t at this point 😢

[@narakanakura3348]

Not gonna happen since they are a lot of snowflakes in the movie industry

[@russellwestbrookyellingatw9381]

No

[@christianh4723]

Wtf, you edited out some of the best parts.

[@SnipIt2139]

Christian H copyright purposes, I was upset too.

[@roshanboodram1891]

Rahai

[@godgrant123]

This is how Battle of Winterfell should of planned their defence... not infront of pikes with catapults at front

[@iconickjlee4960]

"Trebuchet"

[@MrJuice44]

IcoNick JLee catapults

[@redxhand]

Plus trebuchets

[@eibbor171]

and they actually had real shields on the front line not those bitch ass round shields for single combat

[@mjb1655]

Yeah battle of winterfell was bullshit

[@AllenHanPR]

These guys literally buying time for their archers to shoot. Pretty smart strategy, they hold exactly the max range of their archers.

[@hfar_in_the_sky]

Smart of the Trojans. Absolute heat of the moment dumbassery on the Greeks

[@danielcuevas3025]

Bro that iconic “CHAAARGE” gives me goosebumps yo

[@ShannonWallace-q6b]

Funny enough, he doesnt scream CHARGEm he just screams AARGGHHHHHH

[@Sperenza2b]

The Trojans have the high ground

[@MARKMONTES10]

What's the point of their shield if they are dropping like flies

[@chrisdaley4398]

Or armor in general The representation of armor in movies and TV shows is pretty poor.

[@generictoasterstroodle1080]

Chris Daley I agree

[@bebos1262]

Ikr! Goddamn Agamemnon should've just told them to raise those damn shields!

[@geechyguy3441]

Blocking an arrow with a shield is really hard especially if you don't see it coming, that's why people would run with it in front of them.

[@debhroravindranathtabaloc9213]

i think it is the commanders fault in this movie.. agammemnon was no military commander and he thought brute number can win this fight instead of discipline and shield formation. achilles's troops use their shields well during the beach battle.. odesius didn't use much of his personal men in battle and he wanted agammemnon's men to be demolish first until weakened.. ajax was just mindless brute giant who has no signs of ever commanding an army. at the end of the day, it is trojan disciple that wins over number.

[@shanej.w4822]

As a Southeast Asian myself, allow me to make an example out of fun intention from the badminton world. Achilles is like Lin Dan - Strong, proud, fast and extremely ego, whereas Hector is Lee Chong Wei - Resilient, determined, caring and humble. Both Achilles and Hector were legends of their time, but so are Lin and Lee! Anyway, just for fun. Cheers all! 🇲🇾 🤟🏽😂 🔥 ❤

[@ito6220]

I'd just jog really slow and let everyone pass me till i'm in the very back 😂😂🇺🇸

[@locasenior8229]

Came here after episode 5 to relax my nerves and look what it would look like if golden company acctually fought

[@T33K3SS3LCH3N]

Eh this is still a really dumb fight scene. Real battles of this scale had soldiers largely stay in formation and not form convenient dueling grounds for plot reasons.

[@jonathan4554]

@@T33K3SS3LCH3N Well the Trojans did stay in formation though.

[@mijanhoque1740]

Exactly and we should have got to see their awesome war elephants as well instead of wasting it on a boring OP dragon.

[@rmatx7268]

Troy is the movie that made me love Sword war

[@mickeyminime7556]

I remember seeing this in cinema. Such an amazing film.

[@MikiWarhammer40k]

This is cool but how were the greeks planning to get those tall walls?? They didn't show to have any ladders or moving siege towers.

[@adem5717]

Just stab the wall till it catches fire, easy

[@ImnotKen_i]

@@adem5717 in minecraft you build up xD

[@sinclair6555]

Siege engines largely didn't exist at this time with mostly the Assyrians being the first to innovate and implement siege engines with little evidence to for other bronze age civilizations at the time. But its possible that they could since this was late in the era and that practice could've been adapted and the directors really just didn't make one or two because they already planned for the greeks to lose in this battle.

[@bill8711]

set the gate in fire........ i think so .

[@nissy9220]

Sinclair you’re talking like this battle actually happened?

[@jerrythebaum4388]

2:09 FALCON KICK!!

[@fearless8965]

People saying that the battle of winterfell should have been like this or that this makes much more sense: I agree 100%. However, ironically David Benioff wrote the screenplay for Troy, so clearly he could have made it like this but instead chose to rush the last two seasons.

[@Daylon91]

That's what u get when you make a fictitious shown trying to look like history

[@vegapunk100]

Best part of the whole movie

[@WH1T3GH05T]

At 2:13 that blood spraying all over the place was probably the only thing I remembered as a kid.

[@kingkongchief1177]

Superior numbers don't mean shit when your tactics are horrible and you're going against an extremely fortified city with a genius military defense strategy to stop sieges.

[@marketatesarova5156]

Came here right after GoT : Battle VS dead -- to remember how great battles should be filmed and what is strategy.

[@Jonas-ij4td]

Not gonna lie while this is better than got S8E3 its by far not good strategy lol

[@lastnamefirstname7837]

It is amazing that back in 2004, they have battle scene like this, but now, smh

[@jasonsantos6430]

Apparently they were written by the same guy. David Benioff deals with Game of Thrones and was the screenwriter of Troy.

[@khalduras784]

@@Jonas-ij4td he was talking from the trojan's side of the battle

[@nutri-gains6535]

John Snow and Hector need to talk about these tactics

[@shadowlesswarrior]

But Jon Snow knows nothing

[@Shatter149]

this is the smartest strategy! when you are outnumbered, just stay behind the walls with archers. not just charge your soldies to the horde. im looking at you GOT.

[@kadenawarlord2700]

Best battle scene in any movie in history

[@florians9949]

Battle of the Pelenor field: that’s cute.

[@kadenawarlord2700]

true

[@marcelanoryadi9110]

one of the rare movies where Sean Bean survives

[@williamzhou516]

Did anyone notice at 0:34 (like right before 0:35) the non-Trojan soldier on the very right putting his hands down then lying down slowly 😂

[@kingzslayer8085]

Good thing that Ned stark survive in this battle

[@eibbor171]

come to think of it he actually lived through the whole movie lol

[@SantomPh]

not only that, he devises the Trojan Horse and narrates the entire movie.

[@mijanhoque1740]

He also kills Lord commander Mormont

[@maximusdecimusmeridious3784]

This is what Troy total war should’ve looked like with Rome 2 style not whatever new style they did

[@Lorrdd]

It's better with Achilles' commenting on everything going wrong from the side.

[@TheDrunkHamster]

Would have been sweet to see how these battles were really fought, the strategy behind them and such. Its wierd that around the same time the trojan war happened, the battle of kadesh happened and was very well documented.

[@warhawk9566]

I think it's because this war in general is not well documented. The official documents of the war were written hundreds of years afterwards and involved so much mythology that it's kinda difficult to know what actually happened during the course of the war. In fact last I heard a theory that is becoming more widely accepted is that the Trojan war might have been a myth to begin with

[@TheDrunkHamster]

@@warhawk9566 as much as I hate to admit it, it probably is a myth. That would explain how something so seemingly monumental could go without hardly any history behind it, even by the standards in those days. The city of troy is real though, that much is certain. It was just called Wallusa

[@theamorphousflatsch2699]

​@@warhawk9566 well that theory is bullshit because we do know troy/Troia/Troja existed, known to the mycenean greeks as Ilion. And we do know there was a massive war in western anatolia that involved the greeks, during which Ilion was sacked and possibly destroyed. We know the Hittites documented such a war and the archeological findings suggest there were several military campaigns over decades all around the anatolian costal cities causing migrations into the western Mediterranean and north africa. Wether or not the heroes and duels really took place as mentioned in the Iliad can be disputed but in the bronze age Mediterranean it was infact a custom for well known warriors and nobility to challenge each other in chariot and foot duels before battle so it's maybe not that far fetched after all.

[@obbzerver]

They were fought without a soundtrack.

[@TheDrunkHamster]

@theamorphousflatsch2699 after many rabbit holes over the years, I agree with you. It's more likely than not that the Iliad is built on truth

[@iron_sideentertainment726]

Yes lets charge head on into archer fire and not a single one of us raise a shield the whole time...

[@paulmuntean1459]

Ajax is like a young Robert Baratheon

[@pevfrontreman4608]

Paul Muntean yeah

[@hashimalz]

In the real book Ajax fought with Hector three times and didn’t receive any injuries in the whole battle

[@Daylon91]

No comparison seeings how Ajax was an actual king not some fictional character.

[@SantomPh]

@@hashimalz Ajax was godlike in the Illiad and only died when he failed to claim Achilles' armor, and that was from suicide.

[@hashimalz]

SantomPh in the book i read he tried to carry Achilles’s corpse but he then was killed

[@MrJohn49g]

One of the best battle scenes ever recorded.

[@annedejong1040]

Yeah, thanks, got tired of making home video's so build a time machine

[@fighterck6241]

What's interesting is that Troy somewhat gets Hoplite warfare correct to a certain extent. However they didn't fight like Hoplites in the Bronze Age. But, then again, this type of warfare is how it was written in the Illiad but only because of the Dark Ages where Greeks had lost the ability to record history and by the time they were writing again everyone had forgotten all of the details like how they fought in the Mycenean Era. So the question is when you make a movie about the Trojan War is it better to depict the type of warfare Homer described or the type of chariot dependent warfare that people of the time would have still been using?

[@IronDragon-2143]

The Greeks seem to have forgotten how shields work because the Trojan Archers are wasting them like copy paper.

[@gunin44230]

Never underestimate a man defending his home.

[@florians9949]

Or just a man with big ass fortifications and archers to support him.

[@sonofjack6286]

Those Trojans are the smartest archers we've ever seen they fire more than one volley and they move back to let the row behind them fire, unlike in Lord of the rings where only one line shoots, and GoT where they hardly even loose arrows in volleys. EDIT: Those of you rebuking me in the replies, I made this comment four years ago. I don't even remember making it. Pretty sure I was happy that archers were shown earning their salt for once instead of being glorified set pieces.

[@namakudhani1]

What do you mean in lotr they always fire the arrow all the time, like the battle of minas tirith

[@davidguglielmo1177]

In the siege of helm deep the elf archers shoot behind the wall too, creating 3 volley of fire into the enemy,

[@eazyuchiha.5979]

This guy don't know his stuff

[@TreyParkersBitch]

It still took 20 years for Sean bean to get home everyone, to cheer to hard because he survived

[@foolslayer9416]

You know all of this could've been avoided if the Trojans handed over Helen, or better yet, if Paris never kidnapped her in the first place.

[@SoulsteppersKrew]

Fool Slayer The Trojans were fucking winning. It’s those dumbass priests and Priam that led the destruction of Troy.

[@lunerblade13]

Or if the goddesses didn’t fight each other over a god damn apple. Most human tragedy’s in Greek myth can be linked back to the gods.

[@foolslayer9416]

@@lunerblade13 Oh yeah, that's a good point.

[@jeankierkegaard642]

Helen would be returned to menelaus, but the goddess Athena sabotaged peace because she wanted to take revenge on Paris. The Greeks had Achilles and only used the Trojan horse when he died. It was a matter of time for Troia to fall. Greek hoplites were superior

[@bill8711]

@@jeankierkegaard642 not the horse of troy was build out of the despare of the greeks they could not keep the war any longer in the homer book the war was on the 10th year... in the movie is just 10 days

[@redrum76]

Tbh i first watch this I was expecting Achilles and Prince Hector to battle 1 on 1 was wrong but dam Hector would've made a great King he was already a great general fought along side his soldiers how Heroic

[@jasonsantos6430]

To all the commenters saying the screenwriter of this battle is far better than the screenwriter of the Battle of Winterfell... It's the same dude. David Benioff. He's the screenwriter of Troy and Game of Thrones. Don't get me wrong, season 8 of Game of Thrones declined but y'all forgot that the 2 battles were written by the same dude.

[@hobohobohobohobo5369]

Jason Santos why would anyone compare this battle to the battle of winterfell the scale was so much larger when did winterfell come into play.

[@redxhand]

wtf?

[@Daylon91]

Then David went downhill with his silly battles

[@jeankierkegaard642]

This film doesn't do Iliad justice and doesn't have the same quality as Les Miserables, war and peace. David Benioff seems to have never read Homer. I'm glad he never tried to adapt Tolstoy

[@The_one_knocks25]

Actually Ajax and hectors duel resulted in a stalemate on both the times they met

[@Kaxcer]

Whats the point of Greek attack ? They have no siege equipment ready so even if they beat the infantry in front walls, how are they gonna conquer the city ?

[@jeankierkegaard642]

Lysander forced Athens to surrender despite his walls cutting off his supplies and the hungry city surrendered. The Spartan king, Pausanias, laid siege to Athens main city while Lysander's fleet blockaded the port of Piraeus. This action effectively closed the grain route to Athens through the Hellespont, thereby starving Athens. Realising the seriousness of the situation,

[@yaboyed5779]

Dude, every single comment section for any wide battle got comments dissing Game of Thrones 🤣🤣

[@m.h.5191]

Ouch, that chariot smashed that guy at 2:28, seems real though

[@hedition9346]

Movie equivalent of "select all units, and click on enemy"

[@lastsipahi]

Recent findings shows that Troy had been ransacked at least 2 times more in history. Mankind never learns and war never changes.

[@aisapirti4614]

when you are way in the back and seeing all those arrows flying over you. you just start to lay down and count the arrows. lol.

[@pavlaras7]

I always thought the starting scream hilarious !

[@GlobalNews3]

love this movies so much and im 9 this is rated r

[@JohnSmith-tx1mz]

I wonder in ancient battles how often a front line solider actually survived the battle.

[@kiefcuster2702]

Those r the native Americanz against the US government at the beginning when shiit goes down😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😅😅😅😅😅😅

[@MikeRawGaming]

When movies was good

[@Baelor_desu]

The guy with the maul is me in mordhau

[@connor9295]

Do people still think it's edgy and cool to hate Game of Thrones?

[@radthibidaeux8229]

It will ALWAYS be cool to hate GOT. They took such a colossal dump on the fans that the stench will last forever. All spin-offs, derivatives, etc are doomed to failure and are just money grabs. Here's some free advice, Hollywood. If you want to make money off of sequels, spin-offs, etc . . . DON'T completely destroy the franchise with a nonsensical ending, one so disrespectful of fans that the level of contempt it showed for them was beyond belief. If you do, don't expect anything BUT salt and shade from then on. Letting those two idiots destroy the franchise and blow BILLIONS of dollars in future revenue will go down in history for being as epically stupid as attacking Stalingrad in the winter, or telling Mike Tyson he talks funny to his face.

[@yanivgalmor1747]

Well. If the writers didnt decide to shit on the world,fans,quality scripts, people woulsnt hate it. If you want to know more about this. Well there are dosens of videos about them watch. And if you can forgive the enormous flaws of it. Than you never were a real fan

[@Nervii_Champion]

95% of the armor and weaponry in this should be bronze, with very little amounts of iron weaponry

[@afraser327]

SO MANY BIRTHS... So many pregnancies... 9 months and a birth for EVERY man...

[@EroticOnion23]

Apparently, Troy only had 600-700 soldiers, from a population of 5,000 - 10,000. With their allies, the military was probably just a bit over 1,000. The 'scale' of this movie is a bit too big, but then again this is entertainment...

[@danjjakchinguTV]

This video is good.

[@rhenvao2844]

Am I the only one laughing at Agamemnon's war cry at the beginning?

[@Greyhound33]

War is always evil no matter what side you’re on. No matter what. There is no good side in violent bloody war. No glory. Only evil

[@dennisalcocer7664]

1:00 what????..

[@kuyaaajr7169]

Tbh I was routing for Troy but idk who the enimies are BC Achilles is a good warrior and so is Hector

[@akademik_literaturk]

Perfect a film.!

[@captaintrainer9490]

When you play Rome TotalWar on legendary

[@karlangeloarcenas7626]

The Trojans fights like Roman's I just noticed it . The way they throw the spears

[@BrunoEG-ju3jp]

Exactly, the roman pilum

[@SantomPh]

unlike Roman legionnaires the "Appolonians" were a light infantry group who threw light spears to skirmish and break up enemy lines. The pillum had a similar purpose but Romans in the lines used swords

[@karlangeloarcenas7626]

@@SantomPh wow nice info now I know thanks

[@umutkara739]

Long live Hector!

[@balyeetbhagaloe6416]

Nice to see all arian people fighting as greeks and trojans. Very cool hollywood

[@laitaalex3663]

I wanna be in archery troops haha

[@kaizserpokoina9538]

the fact that they had so many men coming from the beach just shows how angry they were

[@formwiz7096]

That's not how you hold a phalanx together. You have to maintain ranks. Especially when the arrows start flying. And you never throw your dory.

[@christiannava1448]

The phalanx hadn't developed yet. It wouldn't be until hundreds of years after the Trojan war

[@AlasdairGR]

Maybe they wouldn’t have been so easily defeated if they had actually held their shields up

[@victorvalenzuela7626]

WolfsbaneFilms their leader didn’t have a good strategy to avoid that. He just allowed their soldiers die without being guided

[@michaelpeterson3736]

You had to be a real man to fight in wars those days.

[@Juxtaposed_IRL]

And also a dead one, if you're lucky.

[@steelballs9551]

A battle that we can see everything.

[@steelballs9551]

@Nico Toscani No thanks. I don't want to see men's anus or hairy balls.

[@linduaji2373]

nyatu hebat film iki edaaan..😲😲😲

[@kevinwendellcrumb1802]

Imagine comparing a battle with skeletons and dragons to this lol

[@mijanhoque1740]

Except you can as their both siege battles same as LOTR helms deep battle. Winterfell battle was just plain terrible.

[@yanivgalmor1747]

@@mijanhoque1740 what plan? There was no plan in winterfell. I bet the writers did that to give us a sense of hoplesness but the they did just makes me want to cry

[@kato_dsrdr]

Must be nice to be an archer.

[@gutersindrio]

allways remember, soldiers dont want to die, they would never storm against a shieldwall like this