TRUE COST OF OWNING MY LAND ROVER DISCOVERY 5 HSE LUXURY (45k mile update)

[@jmills1549]

Like the cars but glad I stayed with my citroen xsara picasso, bought for £100.... Still going strong at 220k on clock.... After 7 years..😂.. Put clutch in £70......had 3 sets of tyres..... 2 coil springs.... An egr valve..... And that's it.... Say £300 over 7 years on maintaining it...... Very good citroen 😊

[@thedoctorsgarage]

Fair play that’s a cheap car!!

[@xKarenWalkerx]

I just bought a 2023 Discovery HSE. It’s honestly my favorite car I’ve ever owned.

[@davidp3300]

I would certainly like to see a video about security! I’ve got my eye on a discovery, but looking at after market trackers and immobilisers when/if I get one!

[@thedoctorsgarage]

thanks for the comment James - I’ll Take a look at making a security focussed one- seems popular right now! 👌🏻👌🏻

[@nasaspacemanwho6711]

Thanks really enjoyed this. Ended up buying an RRS and bought it direct from land rover so iv got the warranty and will be extending it. The other thing I went for is tyre insurance. As got 21" rims and tyres. On my last RR I bought I got the tyre protection as got a puncture as I pulled up on my street. Used it a further 3 times so that paid for itself. Did not go for the alloy protection as they will get scuffed up either way and plan on just getting them done when they start to bother me. Also did not go for the pain protection they offer. I would never buy a RR with out warranty. These cars are brilliant when they work falwlesy my old last one got me through some crazy situations and its that level of confidence that these cars give! For security. Pro elite steering wheel lock. As iv got a family that needs to get in and out plus I wanted something that wont be an issue putting on or storing in the foot well. I went with one of these. If you want better security go for the disklok. Also disabled keyless entry and use a farady pouch for the keys when at home. And don't keep the key lock key on the same keyring as your car keys :) Think ware u1000 camera as it's got cloud alerts. Extra battery to keep it powered when parked. A mobile hotspot with a 24gb sim from three valid for 2 years for 30ish quid. For tracking. Stick an apple airtag or a Samsung tracker somewhere on the car and your keys. Not as accurate as a dedicated GPS tracker mind you but good enough for peace of mind. Stick one of each and your covered. ;)

[@thedoctorsgarage]

Thanks for taking the time to comment- some great ideas there. And I agree they work they are great but not so much when they have problems!

[@markbeed59]

Informative and interesting video. I have a 2018 D5 TD6 and I seem to have had less problems than you. I came to the same conclusion, after much research, that the Land Rover extended warranty was the best to way to cover the risk of major faults. I would be very interested in hearing about your additional security measures.

[@thedoctorsgarage]

Thanks for the comment Mark- will do a security one- lots seem to be getting stolen at the moment!

[@danhayes3546]

I had two year of extended warranty and never used it the minute I stop it yes you guessed it it Broke £1200 bill I love Landrovers but dam I really wish They was more reliable great video 👍 love to see your Extra security mods👍

[@thedoctorsgarage]

Oh no! 😫 I plan on keeping paying mine as I fear the same with my D5

[@guyosborne2696]

Thanks Doc. I also have a Disco 5 HSE Luxury but with the 3 litre V6 and fuel consumption about the same as you. Agree with the extended warranty - I tend to keep mine for 5 years. Only issue so far with mine was a frayed cable somewhere under the rear axle that caused intermittent shutdown of systems but fixed under warranty otherwise a great vehicle. If you are ordering one stick with the 21" wheels. I had to replace a 22" Pirelli due to screw damage and that cost £300 for one tyre.

[@thedoctorsgarage]

It’s crazy how much the bigger tyres cost!

[@wolvoman1]

Similar with Jag regarding warranty, i was informed that i can use any independent garage for servicing as you stated, however when i came to sell the car i was offered a considerably lower trade in price because it wasn't main dealer services stamps. Some of the diesel variants of the land rover suffered with oil dilution problems

[@thedoctorsgarage]

Interesting Mike - I hope that’s not the case with my servicing and the price - independent was really good just had it done last week

[@msheep66]

Great video. Would love to see a video on security. I am amazed you haven't had the leaking windscreen.

[@thedoctorsgarage]

Thanks- no leaks from the sunroof or the windscreen…yet 😂 Will do a security one

[@manuelesteves4246]

Cracking engine blocks it's a chronic problem on the 2.0l BMW diesel blocks since ever.

[@amac8483]

Thanks for this, you've just helped remove Land Rover from my list of possible purchases!

[@thedoctorsgarage]

😂 thanks for watching!

[@stardustbilermam1736]

😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@rangie944]

Video full of information that we viewers want to hear, I was looking for the 2.0 engine in a D5 until i came across this video. The reason is I've had a D3 and RRS with the TDV6 and consider myself lucky to not have had any engine problems, they were both great vehicles with full SH. I see so many TDV6 engines wrecked with spun main bearings and crankshafts snapping in two. There is a common theme in most of these cases and it's poor maintenance and not changing the oil and filter when required. Also low mileage school run vehicles need careful consideration before laying large amounts of cash.

[@josephjohnston1894]

The spun bearings and broken crankshafts is not down to oil changes as the majority of them have FSH. It's just a weak crankshaft and probably under too much strain for such a large car. Short runs aren't good for any diesel but they don't spin bearings and break crankshafts.

[@thedoctorsgarage]

Thanks for watching Rangie- I’ve just heard a lot a bad stories with the 2L engines from this year (including my own!)

[@GrantA_78]

Handy review, thanks Doc. A security focussed session would be good to see. Ta. It would also be interesting to hear what options spec you couldn’t live without if you were replacing your D5, as well as those which sounded great but are hardly used day to day in your current D5.

[@thedoctorsgarage]

Thanks Grant- great idea for a video and yes will take a look at doing a security one too 👌🏻

[@Br1anuk]

Does anyone remember when Land Rover put a 2 litre mpi petrol in the original discovery as a tax break? They were absolutely shockingly bad. 2 litre engine is way too small in a two ton plus car.

[@thedoctorsgarage]

I can't remember that Davo but I agree after having to have a new engine replaced in mine! I do like the high MPG but if I was to buy another it would be the bigger capacity engines for sure

[@shuvadey4294]

Very informative video. Great energy and extremely watchable! I don't think I will ever buy a Land Rover...Lexus for me I think...450h. I wonder how the hybrid and phevs will fair?

[@thedoctorsgarage]

Thanks Shuva appreciate it- I still think the tech needs work before it’s really useable

[@shuvadey4294]

@@thedoctorsgarage I think the tech for hybrids is proven...the Toyota Prius has now been on the roads for over 20 years with minimal issues as far as I know. If the manufacturers share the technology it should be all good.

[@6643bear]

Hi Doc, another great video, you are dead right getting extended warranty, I am in the process in getting one for my D4 , although it did came with extended warranty and Land Rover did some work with interference issue on Fm around 97mhz where as that canbus and engine noise breaking through (they couldn’t fix it ) only to find after that the warranty what not transferable between owners. As like yours the turbos can fail and on the D4 the body has to be removed to get at them so as you rightly said it’s very worth while getting extended warranty. My suspension pump failed I had to replace that. A service from Landrover for my car for the 15000m was £825 , I went to local garage had their gold device cost me £335 at that time .I be most interested to see how your local garage service pans out . Kind regards mark

[@thedoctorsgarage]

Thanks Mark- yes will let you know how the independent pans out. I agree I think the extended warranty is so worth it even if one thing breaks which I feel is likely in the next 12 months

[@haroldwhan9715]

LR D5 was as you describe my best ever but worst ever car I have owned. I really struggle to understand how the dealerships and JLR allow known faults or manufacturing mistakes to go without recall. They then leave the owner (not a rented or PCP) with all the grief. I had to literally return mine with known manufacturing faults yet take a hit on the value. Won’t purchase the brand again despite my longing for one.

[@thedoctorsgarage]

😂😂 i agree with all Of this

[@bentonywombledance324]

Really good and informative vid, been looking at the D5 SDV6 as a replacement for my D4 SDV6, I keep coming to same conclusion though and stick with the D4. As you have said the warranty is a good to have as peace of mind, I still purchase one each year with my car. You are also right in what you say about the car it does everything you could ever really need and that to me is why the Land Rovers are so good. Let us know how the trip to the specialist goes, I have kept servicing the car with the main dealers as “Full Land Rover Service History” seems to be looked at more favourably by most people when you come to sell or trade in/part ex, but you make a valid point regarding the specialist being possibly better overall? Could be something in that. Anyway keep the good vids coming always a good watch.

[@thedoctorsgarage]

Thanks Bentony- appreciate the support. Will Let you know how I get on with an independent 👌🏻

[@paulbird3235]

As someone who swapped from a D4SDV6 to a D5 2.0 . I would recommend that you stick with your D4. Much more reliable.

[@bentonywombledance324]

@@paulbird3235 Thank you for the info and reply 👍🏻, very interesting.

[@paulbird3235]

@@bentonywombledance324 Bought the 2018 D5 September 2020 with 200miles on the clock, Dec 2020 had to have a new wiring harness fitted, the car was in land Rover dealership for three months awaiting parts. Also had battery issues and bad earh issues . Had the D4 from new which I kept for five years and never cost a bean . ( 5yr service plan)

[@neilhudspeth6291]

Great channel and enjoy the content. I have same 2l. D5 which is coming up to 3yr old. Just extended the pro services/tracker, but interested how you have made few security add ons to yours. Mine not due a service yet but I will stick to main dealer for services etc - I have found a website called book my garage which I am able to get my local dealer cheaper than local independents. It says secret garage but shows location which is stratstone Land Rover. May be worth you checking before you take to independent. Thanks again for Channel , I also love all the old defender content as may consider one in future

[@thedoctorsgarage]

Thanks for the comment Neil- will do a security one as lots of people keen. Sounds very good about the dealership been that much cheaper! Glad to hear your 2L has been working well - but I think that extended warranty is a great choice 👌🏻👌🏻 glad to hear you are enjoying the channel

[@malcolmscott4150]

Excellent product let down by some significant component failures - 2 litre diesel was discontinued in new Defender here and 3 litre much more reliable - I do find the LR range all a bit generic now however having owned a 90’s RR Vogue love the brand and would love an original Defender as second vehicle however prices are crazy right now - great video and content 🤘

[@thedoctorsgarage]

Thanks Malcolm appreciate the support as always - yes I think the 2L from my generation of D5 wasn’t the best hence it been binned!

[@jayturner3397]

Thanks , it on my shopping list so v helpful

[@thedoctorsgarage]

Thansk for watching Jay- glad you found it useful- let me know if you have any other questions about buying and I’ll do my best to answer them based on my experience 👌🏻

[@moobaz8675]

I moved from LR to Volvo and bought an XC90 last year becuase of the reliability issues. I love my Volvo, its beutifully built, super reliable, really comfy with great dealer service. But I miss my LR so I'm about to order a D5. I must be mad! 😂

[@thedoctorsgarage]

😂 strange isn’t it

[@tonypacke6954]

£800 for extended warranty is a bargain. Does that include breakdown and recovery? I assume you have a set of plates to swop over when the MOT is due as that configuration will never pass. Ever been pulled by the plod, not the ideal thing to give them the opportunity, especially if your coming back from a night out.

[@tonypacke6954]

@@thedoctorsgarage You've been lucky, I had a company car fail because the spacing between two of the letters were 5 mm less than they should have been. Plates were made up by a garage friend of the Boss as they were all private numbers with the companies initials on them. To view them on the car, you wouldn't have thought there was an issue.

[@thedoctorsgarage]

@@tonypacke6954 that’s a detailed MOT - 5mm!

[@tonypacke6954]

@@thedoctorsgarage UK number plates (whether personalised or otherwise) have two "groups" of letters / numbers. For most number plates spacing between the two groups should be 33 mm whilst the spacing between each of the letters is 11 mm. If you change this, your number plate no longer meets the law. And you can't move a letter or number from across one group to another either! All this crap and yet no-one does anything about these e-scooters.

[@thedoctorsgarage]

😂👌🏻

[@6643bear]

Hi Doc, with regards to servicing, when initially enquired to get a service from Lr I was told that the 3 year warranty could be not covered, if I went to a non Land Rover approved garage , according to Dean Dunham consumer rights barrister , the garage has to be vat registered and parts has to have Ce approved parts does not have to have Land Rover parts . This doesn’t effect the manufacturers warranty. Regards mark

[@thedoctorsgarage]

Thanks Mark- very interesting didn’t know it doesn’t even have to be LR parts

[@nkug66811]

Hi ! Looking to buy a SUV... what's your advice on this car?

[@graemefossett8966]

Hi Doc. I'd like to see some content on Security please. I've just ordered a D300 SE and currently not taken any of the security options. Be interested to hear your thoughts. Cheers

[@thedoctorsgarage]

Hi Graeme thanks for the comment- I’ll Take a look at making a security focussed one- seems popular right now 👌🏻

[@mrliamw1996]

I still love the disco 5 but its good to know that when u have money to buy this car make sure youve got atleast £10000 set aside for it later on

[@thedoctorsgarage]

👌🏻

[@tuningemporium]

JLR extended warranty a must with all models :)

[@thedoctorsgarage]

Agree! 🙏🏼

[@stewartbrown6869]

Brilliany video every thing cover etc . Good to know go to a good Ind specialist also . Great info . Well put together

[@thedoctorsgarage]

Thanks!

[@reinmansmith]

I’m sure you’ve seen it but if not check out the KZbin channel TFL Off-road and the issues they had with their brand new Defender that they bought with the 2L engine….. LR eventually replaced the whole car for them with a better model with the 3.0L engine and that has been reliable so far. I think from everything you have experienced along with their experience the 2.0L engine should be avoided

[@jennyneville7967]

Hi I bought range rover sport 37,000 miles full sevice 1 owner had 2 weeks revs dropping engine shaking went into land rover needed new engine not good

[@thedoctorsgarage]

Nightmare- sorry to hear of the trouble you’ve had - I’ve heard it a lot especially with the 2L engines

[@englishman831]

I’m surprised you have an illegal number plate!

[@martinr7371]

Love to see a security video please

[@thedoctorsgarage]

Thanks Martin - will work on it!

[@michaelkelly9582]

Same old same problem after problem why buy a land rover I've had 4 landrover s all were crap I've had 2 Toyota's both very good I'm not thinking what's going to go wrong next

[@thedoctorsgarage]

👌🏻

[@Jabber-ig3iw]

VAT registered and Genuine parts thing works from day one, manufacturers have to honour any warranty, you do not have to service cars at a main steeler.

[@thedoctorsgarage]

Never knew that thanks- won’t be doing main dealer services again if I can help it!

[@gerrysladephotography7927]

My man logic would kick in if I’d to pay £800 warranty, £440 rfl, , £650 service and £750 tyres and I’d throw that £2.5k+ into swapping the car 😃👍

[@thedoctorsgarage]

😂 I’ve been through the numbers a lot of time myself and thought the same- issues is at the moment with crazy covid pricing it’s hard to move in to anything else comparable

[@gerrysladephotography7927]

@@thedoctorsgarage It’s mad isn’t it?! Especially Defenders, I bought a new 110 XS in 2010 and they’re selling for more now than I paid for it! It’s infallible logic though, “I’ve saved over £2.5k by buying a new car” 😇😂

[@thedoctorsgarage]

@@gerrysladephotography7927 😂👌🏻

[@justsomedude1488]

Im on the verge of dropping £16500 on a 2015 HSE with only 37k on clock.. i really want it, but the horror stories is stopping me pressing the button lol

[@hmallett]

I have a Discovery 3, which has been off the road for 6 months, waiting for a replacement part. For some things it is great, but it is by FAR the most unreliable car I have ever owned.

[@thedoctorsgarage]

Nightmare, hope it’s back on the road soon 🙏🏼

[@minutesandmils3466]

Land Rover / Range Rover = more money than sense?

[@danmurphy6541]

Good old lr…cracked block at 30 k miles…who else puts out rubbish like this

[@thedoctorsgarage]

😂👌🏻

[@lazmafuko2501]

@@thedoctorsgarage Great video Doc . I totally agree with what you said about LR reliability and extended warranty. The issues you talked about are also common with the RRS. I have a RRS that is similar age with your D5, 30k miles on the clock and the engine seized a few weeks ago. Something to do with a fatigued crankshaft. I have a third party warranty for about £500 and they are replacing the engine as we speak. I don't know what I would have done if I didn't have the warranty on my car. It's going to cost between £15k-20k to replace my engine. I think LR are also making a goodwill contribution of about 30% of total cost. But it is such a shame for a car that cost that much to be so unreliable. How can LR get away with such shady workmanship. Don't get me wrong I love my RRS, it is lovely to drive and looks great but it breaks my heart as well. It looks like third party warranties are getting better than the warranties offered by LR. I got my warranty on a deal for £500 for 18 months, you do the maths. Don't ever touch LR cars without an extended warranty or you will live to regret it.

[@thedoctorsgarage]

@@lazmafuko2501 glad to hear you had that covered- £500 is decent for 18months! 👌🏻

[@johncampbell5618]

£70K for a car that needed a replacement engine and you would buy another Land Rover product, I take it you mean a baseball cap or t-shirt, otherwise you have more money than sense

[@olivercarey2706]

WTF is wrong with you Landrover fans? Expensive, unreliable & a real gamon mobile.

[@thedoctorsgarage]

What’s a gamon mobile? 😂

[@Solider134]

This car is very unreliable and out side from warranty just run away from it

[@thedoctorsgarage]

👌🏻

[@parkerpaulj]

Land Rover, unreliability as standard.

[@thedoctorsgarage]

😂👌🏻