WHY I (STILL) HATE MY LAND ROVER DISCOVERY 5 HSE LUXURY!

I'm back again with my Land Rover discovery 5 hse luxury talking about 2 new major problems that have come up! One of the issues being one I thought I had missed but it's finally caught up with me....
My Land Rover Discovery has already had a new engine and now at less than 50k miles has started with 2 new issues.
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[@TJC156]

To me as an outsider it’s just incredible how the Brits put up with such appalling poorly made cars from Land Rover and yet continue to support them. Engine failure, suspension issues, windscreen issues after just 47000 miles is completely unacceptable.

[@FlightProgramAborted]

I agree, absolutley expensive junk, a lot of us hate them, i cant understand why people insist on paying premium price for crap. Could be a status thing.. more fool them

[@bogged2theeyeballs695]

Totally agree. So you know it's a vehicle with many well documented major faults but you buy one anyway. Asking for trouble. Sorry, but no-one to blame but yourself for such a poor decision. I hope this experience will teach you to buy with your head, not your heart.

[@fizzel5711]

They are atrociously built rubbish and I can not fathom why people keep on paying top dollar for them . It’s a status thing re the badge but there are so many superior alternatives out there from any of the Japanese of Korean brands .

[@therambler3713]

People only buy Range/Land Rovers for one reason. STATUS. And they will do anything to maintain that status.

[@paulwatson255]

Iam in Jamaica laughing my ass off that was real talk all the Brits knows landrover r garbage mechanical wise electrical wise it's all bs they only drive them for (style) nothing else nobody doing all this complaining about Toyota handa nissan mazda Benz, BMW only landrover they r complaining about the guy landrover is leaking go hardware and buy some duck tape or stop leak lol

[@haydnfstr]

I don't know how they get away with wiggling out of warrenty claims, esepcially for such well documented issues. I hope you manage to get them to cover it 🤞

[@highlandmalt6368]

I know a barrister who spends 100% of his time rebuffing warranty claims for LR (or was, the last time I spoke to him)

[@thedoctorsgarage]

Got it sorted on warranty!

[@johnharris7412]

I feel your pain.....had a 66 plate disco sport, panoramic roof started leaking. Took it back to the dealer, they couldn't find the leak but told me my windscreen was cracked. It wasn't cracked when I took it into them. Obviously they cracked it while looking at the panoramic roof. Anyhoo, they told me the panoramic roof not covered under warranty. I investigated the issue, and it's a well known fault. Disgusted with the dealer, this was the 3rd car I'd brought from them. I replaced the cracked windscreen and got rid of the disco. I love Discos, but I will never buy a JLR product ever again.

[@davidboyle5761]

I have owned an X5 and Touareg both with sun roofs, they leak the same as Landrovers, the drainage pipes clog up and have to be cleared. Not a big job to do and test about 30min, the dealers should check this as part of a 20k service, most don"t.

[@darrenprior6339]

I encountered the same issue and Land Rover not only replaced the window rubber surround but they also fitted a brand new windscreen, which I was very grateful for as it was getting a bit sand blasted. They also acknowledged that the battery wasn't looking healthy (car was three years old) so they replaced that as well, even though I never requested it. Issues suck but it was nice to be treated the way I was treated and consequently I've ordered a new one.

[@thedoctorsgarage]

👌🏻that’s great service

[@VitaliyMishkin]

Where is a such service

[@mikejuliff2445]

Had exactly the same problem with windshield at 4 years, also extended warranty- Dealership was absolutely no help and had to pay the full replacement cost around £840 . Like you I was not prepared to let it go and after days scrolling Internet found a Land Rover USA site which basically recalled for this problem ‘ LR Technical Note’ which actually included my Disco 5 VIN number in the range to be rectified. Wrote to LR Customer Service giving details etc and my experience with dealership and they agreed full refund ( very generously! ) - good luck, just don’t take the dealership advice at face value, as on numerous occasions since I had the vehicle from new, every issue seems to be a battle with them.

[@josem.lopezlinares2247]

Hello. Could you share the site link?

[@jamesbishop3500]

If you stand outside the car and put your arm in the drivers side and push the screen near the headliner, you WILL see it move. I work for a windscreen company and we replace around 5 a week in the two JLR dealer we do work for. The glass is coming away from the bond along the top edge.

[@jonwagstaff4150]

Does it happen on the Discovery Sport as well?

[@fabulousandfastcleaners3958]

Mate let me tell you my story. Disco 5, hse 3.0 D. 40k miles no faults whatsoever, 48k miles, had an issue with the battery. Would wake up every day to a low battery almost completely dry ass battery. One miraculous day however….. dead battery, car won’t turn on at all, tried jump starting didn’t work. When I eventually got in the car, the start stop button (believe me or not,) was flashing, whilst everything else was off. Ok let’s take it for a service. I took it for a service at an approved Land Rover site. Substituted the factory LR battery to another one. Revised all the other stuff car working great again. Then…….. the start stop button again flashing and almost draining my battery all over a day after the full service. Called the LR mechanic and the approved Lr mechanic. Guess what they said, one said that there was nothing wrong with my car and the other tried to extort money off me by saying it was a software update issue or the cables from the centre console were chipped or whateva I obviously refused to accept that.z BULLSHIT!!!! Do not 100% trust LR mechanics, always take it for a second opinion or worst (which is the light at the end of tunnel) try fixing yourself first if nothing else works. I manually software updated the car and began turning the start stop button off every single time I turned on the engine. Guess what? So far the battery problem stopped. Start stop is an enemy to any discovery, be careful with yours and stop using it. My opinion about the extended warranty that you paid for, I don’t think they sort anything out for you, it’s the same situation with Tesla service issues. They are all rubbish and think they know our cars that we drive every single day for 1000s of miles better than we do. Best of luck mate. Your disco is really gorgeous.

[@LRDefender1968]

Hi Doc, I bought my 1st Defender 90 brand new in 2014, as we left the main dealer excitedly to drive home it started raining heavily, I got on the A12 in Essex near to where I used to live and the water started p*ssing in through the drivers side rear window. I long story short, Land Rover had my Defender more in the 3 years I owned it than I did, and that is NOT an exaggeration, they even took the whole side of the car off, de bonded it, rebonded it and refitted it…..it still leaked like a sieve. I feel you pain brother!!!! Kind regards Tony

[@kudzisiwadi5593]

It’s simple, a large car needs a large engine. No matter how powerful a 2L engine is it will be under more stress as compared to a 3L due to the weight of the vehicle. Hence why you see 3L vehicles with higher mileage and outlive the 2L 4cyl

[@dpd6401]

Hence my landcruiser has a 4.5 litre v8 TD

[@paulwatson255]

Teach it bro

[@del4668]

People happily spend a fortune on a car, but then are not happy to pay £50 a month in VED, so we are where we are with these cars with highly tuned chocolate engines that are prone to sudden catastrophic failure.

[@stuarth43]

lotsa issues here in Au with that engine too kzbin.info/www/bejne/amXGeol4qKd-j7M&ab_channel=JebbreysJibberish @@dpd6401

[@davidboyle5761]

@@dpd6401 Only to be followed by a fuel tanker.

[@StephenStCroix-yk3zk]

I have the same problem just a week ago with my 2016 evoque, the leaking windscreen. Took it to autoglass/kwik fit, the chap said this is a common problem on all land rover products, and it is not covered by land rover or your insurance. You have to pay out for it yourself. Ironically, mine is in the same place as yours.

[@DrivenHard]

They cover this in the US and Canada for most customers. Strange that they don’t in the UK

[@KeithWilbraham]

Hi, i too had a 2017 2.0 discovery 5 HSE from new, initially i loved it. The first item was the screen at about 8 months old. LR had it in the garage for 3 months, the headlining was full of water and it had gone down to the centre instrument column. So, everything was replaced. Then the tailgate started to only work part way and again it went into the garage for ages whilst they replaced part of the wiring loom. Next was the pneumatic suspension pump failed. Again in for a couple of weeks. After a year the windscreen started leaking again. It was replaced again after some weeks. All was good for a while. Only odd niggles like door handle trims falling off. On. The first service they reported an oil leak which was done under warranty again. I still loved the car as im disabled and it was a nice comfortable car with loads of room for my mobility scooter. However, the love started to dwindle as small things went wrong repeatedly . At 32000 miles i had gone out for lunch with my wife and as we left the restaurant, the car struggled a bit to start and this was strange as it always started first go. We had gone about 3 miles and it suddenly gave the most horrendous bag of spanners noise. We were just outside a garage and i turned in with everyone coming out to see what had been making the terrible noise. As i drove in, the engine stopped. I had had a mini service a few days before and i thought hell, they’ve not put any oil in. A mechanic also came out and said it sounds like the bottom end of the engine had gone. He checked the oil and it was still full. We called the AA who transported the car back to my main dealer, he told me they had loads of LR cars like this. I told the main dealer the story that it went suddenly with no warning or previous indications. Initially someone inspected it and came up with the conclusion that it must have known about it as there was new oil around the top of the engine so i must have been topping it up and there’s always a long warning before an engine gives out. The guy didn’t check that it had had an oil change only a week before in its service and that seemed to shut the guy up. After i went on line, i found loads of these engines going exactly like mine, mostly all cylinder 1 faulty. All failing suddenly with no warning or previous notice or indications. It was in the garage for 5 months and they replaced the engine. Next the winter came and the car wasn’t getting warm. It went in again after a couple of evaluation tests and it had a new water pump. Strange thing is that if the pump was failing wouldn’t the car run hot???. Anyway, they took weeks again to get a water pump. I was told i could pick it up in the next afternoon. Before this, i had a call from the garage to say that the “technician” working on the pump has broken the windscreen. The new windscreen took 9 weeks to fit. By this time my love of the car had turned into a dread of what’s going next. Well, the next thing was the car was going into limp mode. As the initial warranty had now expired , i had fortunately taken an extended dealership warranty out on it. Thinking i was covered, i booked the car in for a diagnostics check when i was told that if they didn’t find a problem, the diagnostics would be around £100. I paid the money after they didn’t find a problem and the car went into limp mode again on. The way home. It took several attempts from the garage before i was told that it might be the turbo but if it wasn’t, i would be charged for stripping everything off to get to the turbo. Fortunately, they said yes they think it’s a turbo and they have ordered one. This took several weeks and it was ages before a loan car was made available. The turbo arrived and all went well. The next warranty period was coming up so i decided that it was time to go. I had loved that car and when it was working it was perfect for my needs but by now i had no confidence that it would get me home any more and I wasn’t prepared to buy another warranty for the car. In 4 1/2 years it had spent over 18 months in the main dealership. Nobody should consider buying one of these without a foolproof warranty. It’s a brilliant car but I couldn’t afford to buy another. Ive now gone to a new BMW X5 and now i have faith in a car again.

[@landrover3596]

Love my 2008 Discovery 3 SE V8 will never giver her up I'm at 88k miles and keeps on rolling 🇬🇧 🍻

[@ZachBrimhall]

Bummer. I still have my LR3, it's fantastic and functional. V8 version.

[@shaunbava1801]

I have one too, as far as land rovers go no other is as reliable. The 4.4L is very reliable lots of examples with hundreds of thousands of miles. Issues in the LR3 tend to involve the suspension, it's a heavy car, and britishisms lots of random things fail but it generally won't strand you.

[@ryanolivier8446]

Doc, Luxury and all the bells and whistles aside. Keep that old defender, it will outlive everything you own and still be cheaper to fix than all the tech heavy vehicles of today. The charm it gives is an added bonus. Just my opinion.

[@thedoctorsgarage]

I do love my old defender 🙏🏼

[@wearejames1]

Hi Doctor, sorry to hear of the many issues you have had with your Discovery, I don't own one, so can't give any advice or experience. I would say that they are all serious issues, on a vehicle that is relatively new, that is low mileage, I would be very disappointed if they weren't all fixed by a recall or covered by a £900 a year warranty!! As for the water leaking down the inside of the windscreen - This is a 4 year old, luxury off road vehicle, who on earth would consider this to be acceptable, especially when you have stated this is a common fault... I hope you are able to get these issues sorted quickly with no extra expense to yourself👍👍

[@A.J.Lawson]

Shocking number of faults! I think if it was mine it would've been on Autotrader months ago.

[@thedoctorsgarage]

🤦🏼‍♂️

[@equaliser2265]

He cant hes got it on credit,.

[@thedoctorsgarage]

Have I?!

[@A.J.Lawson]

I would wager a specialist Dr. Has the means to settle any outstanding finance if that is the case he could certainly sell if he wanted. Who knows maybe it’s 100% owned either way non of our business

[@jeancolinplummer3547]

I purchased a brand new L/R (21 plate) last year, after 4,700 miles it had a major fuel leak and was recovered by the AA to a L/R main dealer, 6weeks later the D=deale rang and said that the vehicle was repaired BUT it needed a new engine, disgusted with the whole situation I told them to keep it, and will NEVER EVER go near a L/R again, I now own a Mercedes E class which is superb.

[@jonathancollard3710]

I absolutely LOVE mine… MY2019 and no issues. I treat it as a mobile skip with tonnes of logs thrown in the back or building rubble one day, then a wash and a quick vacuum and then off to Ascot. It will cruise at way over 70mph in comfort and quiet. I have the 310bhp 3ltr engine….I still have my old MY2004 Disco 2.5 and whilst that is creaking and had some chassis work for MOT recently, it’s like an old smelly dog and is just part of the family… of note neither have a sun roof 🤨

[@highlandmalt6368]

You got a good one! Probably built mid week.

[@ZIPTRAVELS]

I can’t believe how they still have oil leaks and other small issues in a modern era

[@grahamcotterell1637]

I have a solution for your issues? I to was a loyal LR brand client for 20 years , but one can only take so much! I found the answer a 2019 Toyota Landcruiser .Good Luck

[@billsavage9917]

our windscreen leaked on our 2019 Disco at 18k miles. Land rover usa had a recall and replaced our windscreen completely for free! Apparently the glue used for the glass disintegrates over time. Other than that, no problems so far!

[@md-detailing]

My aunt has a Disco 5 from 2016,only had 1 fault and that is that the turbo went out at 257.000km,everything else is like brand new,they bought it new for 60k euros.

[@scotdoc]

Amazing isn’t it that after so many decades of making cars, they still have such a basic problem. Junk warranty. So glad I got rid of my RRS when I did. Money pit

[@elizabethrockwell4851]

I am having issues with our Discovery. Out of warranty of course. The windshield began leaking... but one place said it wasn't the windshield, so then we had the sunroof looked at and they said it wasn't the sunroof. Then after more weeks of leaking when raining I took it to another place to have them inspect the windshield because I was certain it was something to do with the windshiled and sealant... landrover by the way wouldn't touch it because they don't work on windshields.. so at this new garage and it took their techs one minute to tell me they had found this issue. They immediately showed me that the windshield could be pushed out from inside the car at the top. So they had to put in a new windshield. Anyway, luckily they were able to take out the currently windshield and the reseal it for me. No more leaking. But now my touchscreen in the car has stopped working.. just black. I am sure it is from water damage. But we can't find any "roadmaps" to the electrical systems of the car to help determine what might be damaged. I don't want to have to go to landrover as they will charge an astronomical amount to look into this. Any advice?

[@Wilbargosh]

I had a 2003 TD5 SE7 in Australia from new. Whilst many problems existed over time, more specifically, yes the windscreen leaked. It leaked from new, whilst under warranty, through the top RHS. Land Rover tried to seal it with silicon from the inside and behind the roof liner. After years of it continuing to leak I needed a windscreen replacement to repair a large stone chip. I discovered, the storm water was leaking through a joint in the metal between the roof and A pillar where the windscreen is sealed. I finally fixed the problem by repairing the metal folded joint and resealing (black adhesive sealant) in a new windscreen. After 30 years of owing land rovers, I now own Isuzu’s (NPR truck and Dmax) for better reliability and lower operating costs!

[@philiphartley6169]

There is an old joke that a customer told his LR dealer he had no leaks on his LR , any way they fixed it on the next service ! We have run Discoveries and a Defender for many years . Discoveries used to have an issue where the drain spouts used to break off the sunroof drain tray . Not many sunroof specialists around these days . Many disco 1's and 2's were siliconed shut Best Land Rover ever built Freelander 2 in my humble opinion .............have you seen prices of high spec 2014 models ?

[@logiebrowns]

Sorry, seemingly, ultraviolet light degrades the adhesive, so the replacement screen has a wider tinted area to keep the light out. Don't just get it re-sealed Dougie from Edinburgh

[@gwynbartley9176]

Had a 3 litre HSE Lux. Great car but land rover would not honour warranty claims in the first three years. All wheels were badly tarnished but more worryingly selecting drive on the gear knob sometimes defaulted to Sport so you would drive away with a cold engine with the gearbox stuck in first! LR said can’t replicate it so no action taken. Knowing gearbox problems can be expensive I changed to Lexus 450h. At 77 I don’t want to be in a lay-by waiting rescue. D5 is a great car - wish it was made by Lexus.

[@adrianlofthouse7079]

Please don’t leave this leaking windscreen for long. We have 2019 disco 5 HSE. During the later part of lockdown we noticed the passenger window started misting up and and then the footwell was wet on the passenger side (front). Booked into landrover and they took the car and the leaking windscreen had somehow corroded the full/main wiring harness (I apologise if I haven’t got the name correct) this was a full interior out and required a back order as the part is assigned to the chassis of only new cars. We didn’t see the car for 4 months. Thankfully under warranty they covered all costs and used landrover assist to keep us mobile. We where given a disco 5 the same as yours for 2 months (hse luxury) and a RRS for the other 2 months. Please get this looked at straight away.

[@sidstevens9035]

In Australia we have a saying. ' if you you want to go bush, take a Land Rover' If you need to get back again, take a Land Cruiser' !

[@shieldaigbencher]

I had to involveTrading Standards to get my Land Rover dealership in Leicestershire to accept they needed to deal with the issues of fuel leakage onto the road wheels on my 2 year old discovery. They tried to make out it was a gesture of good will until Trading Standards pointed out it was actually a legal requirement they sorted it out.

[@ianbrown1255]

I had a Range Rover sport Sdv6 HSE from new in 2015…..after 5 years, 55k miles and a number of electrical and engine faults, I sold it as the extended warranty ran out…..I was too nervous to risk it any longer so bought a new Mercedes 350 GLE de hybrid and after nearly 12 months not a single fault! I now get nearly 50 mpg and 50 ish miles on a full charge…..I sleep better these days….

[@phughes4224]

Absolutely love the '5' ... but so much better in D300 form.

[@markjames5037]

I've got a '68 plate' Land Rover Discovery 5 HSE Luxury. I was contacted just before Christmas by Guy Salmon, the Land Rover Dealership in Bristol, who said that the window issue was a Land Rover recall item and that they would book it in anytime I wanted.

[@MrMontychops]

Not only are the cars not fit for purpose but neither is the company. Had a new screen fitted to my Wolf this week. In the workshop was a D5 for a screen replacement (£600). The fitters said they’ve done dozens & fit them for toffee. One was brand new parked outside in a compound and had three inches of water inside. The entire interior had to be removed. Utter garbage.

[@Conan3145]

My Discovery 2 V8 was a great town/country car in the day but non schedule repairs were frequent and expensive. I moved to Mercedes which I view as cheap to run VS LR vehicles. I still look at the new sleek and capable Discos, the base Defender but I won’t risk being a LR owner again. My dad told me long ago: a Range Rover is a great way to see the Aussie outback, but you’ll need a Land Cruiser to get back home. Informative video.

[@southdj7075]

I had the same problem with my D5 HSE Lux Si6 at 4yrs old. First of all, best thing is to use LR Assistance as they get it in straight away and provide a hire car. LR said the same thing about water ingress not being covered by warranty and talked about good will gestures. I made it very clear that I had no intention to pay for what is clearly a well documented manufacturing defect. After 2 weeks of discussions, LR UK covered all of the costs to replace at over £1k. Overall, my D5 has spent about 20% of it's life at the dealership and so extending the warranty is an absolute must!

[@SteveSeadog]

Picked up a 48,000 mile 2016 Touareg yesterday, and so glad I did. I weighed-up the Discovery, Range Rover, X5, Grand Cherokee, Land Cruiser and Audi Q7, and it came down to a choice between the Land Cruiser and Touareg. (Couldn't find a Land Cruiser at the right mileage/price.) The Land Rover products were out of the running fairly quickly after I started seeing too many horror stories similar to yours. I hope they do the decent thing and start looking after their customers a bit better . . . . and maybe even address their quality issues, but I wouldn't hold my breath.

[@dzukowski]

Sorry to hear it. Anyway, good luck with warranty repair I hope LR will pay 100% of repair cost. I love LR cars, but technical issues and problems with warranty in Poland are stopping me to buy one.

[@silktvPDR1]

2008 Freelander 2 SE 162k Miles, only things recently alternator bearing and handbrake pivot seized.12 years of happy ownership.

[@leeandjancruise]

From what I've read about other manufacturers having similar problems the cause can be blocked drain holes in the sun roof, if no sun roof is fitted try running some 'Creeping Jack' sealant or similar around the top of the windshield seal, failing that hope for a cracked windscreen then you can claim off your insurance for a new one at low cost.

[@stevehumphreys1981]

Careful that tape doesn’t take any of the paint off!

[@tolgaakyay]

Suspension arm is never replaced by the warranty unless it’s a very common or dangerous issue. Suspension can go bad if you off-road it all the time. They must cover the windshield.

[@thedoctorsgarage]

It was covered on mine in the end!

[@logiebrowns]

Hi Doc we got the windscreen replaced under goodwill. Took about 2 weeks but dealer argued our case with LR. All good now. Should be good will rather than warranty. Hope that helps

[@greglewis1497]

There needs to be a class action law suit. I also had an engine failure on my 2017 Discovery 3.0 L HSE Lux. Land Rover originally said they would pay 40% of a new engine, but later backed out with the only reason given was I was the second owner. I bought the car while it was still under warranty. I hate Land Rover! Horrible example of a luxury car manufacturer!

[@BionicRusty]

I’ve had a similar experience with a Jaguar XF. 3 months out of warranty the engine blew up and JLR would not yield. And that was AFTER over £10k of other repairs. I cannot believe I’m only here because I was thinking of another JLR car. All good, though. I’ve come to my senses.

[@inverterville]

I had a leaking windscreen on my D4 took it to a windscreen specialist and they removed the glass without breaking it and told me the sealant they used in the factory was crap. They cleaned it all up and redid the sealant and fitted it back in. They did a fantastic job and it never leaked again. not saying it the same with the D5, just my experience.

[@lesliepatmore3021]

Same car Disco 5 HSE lux 2L - windscreen leak at 2-3 years old replaced by dealer under warranty…. No other major problems so feeling lucky !

[@markzehetmeier195]

I have had water ingress issues in the past but on different vehicles, and often it was down to the Sunroof drain which runs down the inside of the A-Pillar become blocked with debris. This can usually be fixed with forcing high pressure air down the channel and clearing it. I might be barking up the wrong tree here, but it might be worth a try.

[@shaunbava1801]

That issue is EXTREMELY common in discovery 3/LR3's. Mine had a small pool in the passenger footwell. I was thinking it was the tubes but I checked with the horoscope and the lines were fine blew out the drains with compressed air and no more leak.

[@srw_cricket2976]

I test drove a friends Disco 4 recently. Hadn’t realised it had x3 engine rebuilds.. Lovely drive but I was so afraid of buying a problem car. Would love to own one but my head is ruling my heart.

[@thedoctorsgarage]

3 is a lot!

[@srw_cricket2976]

@@thedoctorsgarage A sorry tale of incompetence, calamity and no doubt some exuberance sprinkled in for good measure. Also the commercial variant so not really a family tourer.

[@toku_gawa]

I hate my Disco 5 now, my 5 year old, 53k miles car developed engine failure due to broken crankshaft, cost me £10.5k to fix, no warranty, no goodwill for a dealership serviced car. Now I have suspension fault just after collecting the car. It’s like a nightmare you can’t wake up from.

[@dereklawson945]

Worth a check that the drain holes on your sunroof are clear. Must admit, this related back to 1995 Peugeot 306, but I vowed never to buy a car again with an openable sunroof. If you need a windshield reseal, you can check if you have a leak by getting air compressor and blowing air around the seal. Listen inside for whistling noise (again my experience relates to a replacement window that was incorrectly sealed). This should guide you to the failed seal location. The only remedy is window removal and reseal. Most window companies will be able to remove for you and refit for you, but they will not guarantee that they will not break the window. Good luck. Chin up, you will get there.

[@HeinerStorchennest1]

Hi thanks for sharing your experience. From my personal point of view, it is of incredable value, to publish such issues of bad quality - both jn terms of manufacturer skills and aftersales- service. The windscreen of my Series Land Rovers and my Discovery 1 300TDi are waterproof. Only the Series vehicles collect water at the A-posts and roofs-rails through the door seals. It must be a kind of extraordinary intuition to construct a premium car, with a glued-in windscreen, which lets water in. Nowadays, it is hard to decide, which car to buy best in terms of reliability and longevity.

[@abethewanderervlog4479]

Go for Lexus. Very reliable and less worries.

[@jeancolinplummer3547]

MERCEDES.

[@simonsaphire]

@@jeancolinplummer3547 lol

[@HeinerStorchennest1]

@@jeancolinplummer3547 Some years ago, I bought a MB207D (1979) van in 1984 and converted it to a camper-van. Despite the fact, that this van accompanied us for about 20 years, MB convinced us to never buy such a car again. I bought with 110ooo km on the clock and the 3rd rear axle, due to diff failures. I saw some rust spots and treated them with an angle-grinder, got the hood and fronters hot-dip-zinc-coated etc. etc. I never got rid of the rust through all the years, exhanged all the doors ... At 120.000, so only 10.000 km in our ownership, the timing-chain broke. There still rumours, that OM616 engines last for ever (lol), at least taxi-drivers do 1.000.000 km without having any major failures. So we decided for a genuine MB engine on an exchange basis. 80.000 kms laters, the engine shows come signs of weekness again. Became hot on long slopes, struggled to get up the hills etc. ... In the, I sold the van to a Mercedes fan. From my personal point of view and experience with passenger cars of different brands, we buy a Toyota as daily driver.

[@andrewmayo608]

Having had a couple of discoveries the TD5 Landmark and then the HSE Discovery3....my Discovery 3 had the age old Water Leak problem coming in through the interior light above centre dashbord..Really surprised Land Rover not fixed this issue over time.Mine was a 2005 model.sad to hear this issue still remains 12/13 years on in newer models. That said I loved my Discovery 3....but these niggles would put me off buying another Discovery.

[@thedoctorsgarage]

Yeah seems to be an issues in all generations- all sorted now though and Land Rover sorted it FOC which was great

[@AdrianPayne1]

I feel for you, nothing worse than a leaky screen. It’s shocking that the approved warranty is £900 a year. It should cover everything at that cost. 😡

[@jeffreyday7533]

I have been looking at buying a Disco 5 as I have been Landy customer for years with the odd issues which have been dealt with but Leaking windscreen issue does put me off .I had this same problem with a Subaru a few years ago.but I will keep looking and bypass the D5.

[@womblefarrier1634]

Discovery’s still leaking through the sunroof! And windscreen..not good. Land Rover.....watch the water run out the gaps as quick as it came in!! But we still love them, especially the original series and Defender.

[@thedoctorsgarage]

👌🏻

[@BalanBro2]

We've had the water leak on our 2017 Discovery....twice. First one was replaced under the warranty period in 2019. Then it failed again in 2021, a few months out of warranty. Thankfully my service advisor worked with Land Rover of North America, and they covered the replacement as a "goodwill" since it failed again in under 2 years. So far it's okay, but I don't have much confidence that the fix will be permanent. Unfortunately, what they say is true about JLR products being poorly engineered and unreliable. At least the other issues I've encountered, I've been able to repair myself, but for those who don't have the means to DIY, these are absolute money pits. It's a pity because when the car works well, our family loves it.

[@thedoctorsgarage]

So true- when it’s all working it’s the best car. Doesn’t sound good your windscreen going twice! Hope mine doesn’t fail again

[@orchids5759]

I Bought a brand new discovery sport 7 seater September 2020 and it completely broken down, luckily of the motorway 1 week after purchase. No one could help me push this vehicle of the road, not even AA or even jump start it as it’s a hybrid. It took numerous road users to push this vehicle of the road safety. Only the Land Rover mechanic can assist if it breaks down not AA. It’s been recalled back more times than I can even recall. The gear box has been replaced, electrical fire 🔥 recall, the petrol tank has been replaced and numerous computer issues recall. I have been in more replacement vehicles than my own purchased vehicle. I have never enjoyed driving it as a warning ⚠️ sign always flashes up. It’s been in the garage for the last 2 months since Febuary 2022 and I was given 100% re-assurance all service was done and it’s safe to drive. Within 12 hours, it’s flashing service required. The lookers Land Rover and the manufactures and dealership are a real nightmare to work with. It’s a really sad situation be in after purchasing this vehicle brand new for £41,968.80 in September 2020. Currently it’s being referred to the Ombudsman.

[@thedoctorsgarage]

Sounds like you have had a nightmare!

[@orwell9579]

Who buys a tiny 2 liter in a car like that?

[@thedoctorsgarage]

It’s great on fuel!

[@rrcarman0266]

My wife 2019 Disco HSE about 20Thousand miles windshield leakage from the driver side and LR corp knows about the issue and when I spoke to the Dealership they told me it’s common with the sealant they laid the windshield on. So I’m sure the warranty will cover it since it’s a manufactory defect and LR know they used the adhesive by not putting enough or the wrong kind.

[@thedoctorsgarage]

Got it covered in the end! Thanks for your insight 👌🏻👌🏻

[@LboroWick]

Land Rover. The best KZbin channel content generator by far.

[@thedoctorsgarage]

😂👌🏻

[@jerrygreene7139]

I’m very sorry that is happening to you. I had an A/C leak in my RR that puddled on the floor and it was a big ordeal to finally get it fixed. I still worry that it will come back. I hope they get that all sorted out for you.

[@thedoctorsgarage]

Thanks Jerry- to be fair they did!

[@paulwatson255]

Doc I think you the type of guy that goes to the pump and put petrol in your diesel discovery 5 lol my ass off out here in Jamaica

[@keyboarddancers7751]

I'm sorry but I really struggle to understand what it is that people seriously think they need these enormous, expensive and extraordinarily complicated cars for, which have nonetheless been brilliantly designed to drive over the most challenging terrain it's possible to imagine - plenty of YT vids can demonstrate their truly amazing off-road abilities. If you're not using if for such purposes on at least a consistent weekly basis and that purpose is somehow essential for your very existence, why burden yourself with a vehice very well known for requiring such high maintenance? If you have the requisite money, there are all sorts of viable alternative choices available. My suspicion with these cars is that although they're unquestionably brilliantly designed to offer a superb combination of space, comfort and off-road ability, the qualilty of the actual materials and construction is at best, far too inconsistent for the money. I also question the wisdom of small engines in big heavy cars. Anyway, personal choice, as ever...

[@hilly0911]

One of the reasons when I got rid of my Disco 4 I did not want a Disco 5 crap dealers and poor build quality

[@thedoctorsgarage]

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[@markriley2733]

Just shameless how they charge a premium ££££for their top of the range luxury car THEN have the balls to charge nearly another grand a year for a warranty they immediately reverse out of. It’s just disappointing. How are we to invest in British industry if this is their treatment of the customers that fund it. Good luck !

[@jonathansmith283]

I was considering a defender a year ago, ended up buying a MB GLE 350 . im lucky I have an old pickup truck also . I hate hearing about your troubles- it is such a great looking vehicle. I hope you get good news. ~ JDS/CT

[@ianbrown1255]

Did the same but bought a GLE 350 de hybrid version…..50mpg, 55 miles on electric and no problem’s whatsoever……fingers crossed!

[@pauleugene8286]

I had an LR3, and absolutely loved it. I want a Dicsco 5, but the faults and problems scare me. Until quality control is fixed on these expensive vehicles, I'll have to wait. I love the styling and capabilities of the vehicle!

[@bobvandesande7954]

Same issue leaking sunroof. Garage cant find where, cleaned drains but no result.

[@thedoctorsgarage]

It’s the seals around the glass that go I think

[@TheSecretBliss]

water pouring through the windshield, electrics been effected. Driving around with a towel in the car.

[@thedoctorsgarage]

Sorry to hear that! 😬

[@wilg.2548]

Interesting, I just got my 2017 Discovery HSE and a couple of water drops came out of nowhere this morning on the passenger top corner as it was raining today.

[@thedoctorsgarage]

Get it looked at! Can really damage the electrics in the footwells

[@AK-nx9lg]

Yep! Both sunroof and windscreen had to be reset. 2018 HSE

[@galadimakeita-ozieh8398]

Can Landrover try to make things as simple as Toyota in it's mechanisms it'll be the ultimate brand if they can.

[@LadyDrivenAutos]

The leaky windshield is a factory recall! Head to your dealership for a free replacement that takes just 2-3 days

[@thedoctorsgarage]

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[@OneEyedJacker]

Instead of approaching LR on the basis of a windshield leak, perhaps try the approach that it is a structural integrity defect. As we all know, windshields and their bonding to the body are major structural elements of modern car design.

[@katiemcleod1741]

First mistake you made was buying a one of these with a 2l engine. These things are heavy and just puts a strain on the 2l version. I remember the sales person tried to rope me into getting a 2l Range rover sport. I told him exactly what I new about the 2l engines and he shut up. Ended getting the 4.4l V8 and never looked back. No issues at all and runs smoothly

[@krzaku1983]

No. I absolutely don't have this kind of problems because I'm still driving my Peugeot 407. Got it for the last 10 years no issues. Was thinking about buying disco 5 but thanks to yt already changed my mind.

[@paulbird3235]

Hi Doc the tape you have stuck over the A-pillar is blocking the drain holes from the front sun-roof. if these are blocked you will get water come over the channel around thes sun-roof and into the car.

[@roberthall8473]

Landrover extended warrant covers nothing that actually goes wrong, it excludes all know faults, it doesn’t matter which model it always the same story. They are the most unreliable brand bar none, they are a marvel of marketing, why anyone actually buys one is beyond me.

[@thedoctorsgarage]

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[@notsosmart6901]

Have a disco 5 first edition. 2017. Windscreen leaked in 2020. Cost £4500 to repair as water flooded the electronics under the seat. The DAB radio and amplifier needed replacing. Not in warranty. Still have the car as it’s a petrol 3.0 and it only has 30k miles on it. I love the car but it’s super painful when something goes wrong.

[@haroldwhan9715]

I wrote to you before. Same windscreen issue. JLR admitted it was a manufacturing fault and would be replaced. Dealership just stuck the same screen back in. I really don't know how they get away with their attitude to customers or why people keep buying their products. I hope you get the known manufacturing fault fixed under the warranty as you are entitled to. H

[@jdpst20]

I had my 2017 discover HSE for just about a month when I bought it last March 2021. 40k miles on the clock. Started small and it then got way worse in Colorado snow and rain. They quickly ordered me a windscreen asap took about 3 weeks to come in but I took it in and they gave me a temporary solution. The windscreen was covered under a “manufacturing recall” and completely covered by Land Rover. I’ve had my 2017 for a year starting March 1 of last year and in 1 year I’ve put 25k miles on it just had my 65k service. Oil changes and that’s pretty much it so far. I’ve been fortunate. I have the SCV6.

[@shaunbava1801]

That's the ford/Jaguar engine they don't as have many problems, the 2L ingenium diesel is known to be nightmare. The rest of the car remains to be seen but that V6 motor is pretty good.

[@jdpst20]

@@shaunbava1801 ahhh got ya

[@Psychedxliic]

I am sure this will get missed among the large amount of comments on the video but from Personal experience as a service advisor for an LR brand for a few years and someone who dealt with a lot of warranty goodwill claims getting that windscreen done under warrant really shouldn’t be a massive issue - it won’t be covered under extended warranty but if your local dealership is good they will set up a goodwill case with LR. 9 times out of 10 it will be 100% because it is a known issue and in their eyes you are a ‘loyal’ customer ! I am sure you won’t have any issues. Side note the suspension arm is something that should be covered at that mileage, they can be a little funny but if the workshop / warranty controller words it correctly you will be fine. Hope this helps

[@thedoctorsgarage]

Hi Charlie no comment is missed! Thank you for your opinions and based on your experience that’s hugely valuable! I dropped it off at LR today so will bear that in mind. Thank you 🙏🏼

[@Psychedxliic]

@@thedoctorsgarage good luck ! If you need any advice let me know , I am not with the brand anymore but I still keep in connect with the warranty manager and potentially still have some access to the LR side of things so ill see what I can do if there is any issues !

[@thedoctorsgarage]

@@Psychedxliic appreciate that Charlie 🙏🏼🙏🏼

[@bullet113001]

My 68-plate Discovery 5 has just developed a water ingress issue, it is major! It has prevented me from starting the car or even getting the electronic dash/display to work, so the car is totally disabled. I have so far fetched 8 pints of water out using dehumidifiers 24/7. You can hear the water slosh in the floor pan and the carpets ooze water. I too have taped all the windscreen but I fear I have not found the exact area, as the glove box, which I had unclipped for access to the inner fuse box, dumped at least 1/2 pint of water when I went to shut it up after more rain and having already sealed the windscreen. I have the car booked into Land Rover's main dealer at Stafford, we will see what they have to say, I suspect I will be handing this car back to the dealer (within 6 months of purchase) as life postfix could well be troubled .... electrics and water don't go hand in hand as we all know.

[@24498378]

Hi. We have had the same issue with our windscreen. In the end we took it to national windscreens who removed the screen and rebonded it. The inside of the car was really wet and we did have concerns about water damaging electrics. The only issue is that the windscreen houses other electronic/ camera for AEB. that system had to be recalibrated. So in total 120 + vat for the rebond and 180 + vat for recalibration….. now we have a warning light for the AEB NOT WORKING😡😡😡 And now the damn car won’t start…. A local garage ( we don’t have a land rover garage on the Isle of Wight) has checked the battery ( only 11 months old) and the alternator and they have put it on the diagnostic machine and can find nothing wrong… so the car is now stuck at the garage, won’t start and no one can help…. DOES ANYONE KNOW WHAT THIS COULD BE? I’m at my wits end with this heap of trash….

[@thedoctorsgarage]

I’ve currently got a starting issue- it’s been with Land Rover for 4 months with no ETA on parts. They are replacing the wiring harness under the front left wheel…

[@farhad4uk]

The same problem I had with my Jaguar XF. The damp exploded my Computer control board, which had to be replaced and flood my back boot as well.

[@waynechalkey9050]

Sorry ment to mention when I had my windscreen repaired I was shown were the sealant had failed along the top off the screen. It hadn’t been primed correctly. They cut the screen out along the sides and bottom but the top just peeled off. I had videos which I’ve deleted now, I would have been a Landrover customer for life but. Rip of Britain the US and Australia have 5 year warranty’s

[@thedoctorsgarage]

I’ve got mine replaced now- sounds like the same issu

[@jamesgeitz6719]

In my opinion the reason the engine block cracked is because this little motor is working too hard to move this big vehicle. The DIscovery 2 had the same issue with the 2.5 Litre BMW engine, mine had a cracked block & my younger brothers 130 Defender with the same engine completely failed, over worked small Diesel engines in large 4x4’s will always fail, in my opinion! Landrover tried to sell me one of these with a 2 Litre motor Disco’s, I refused & told Landrover that this exact failure would occur, again this is why I changed to the 79 dual cab Landcruiser instead, as I’ve mentioned before on your channel.

[@johndoyle4723]

I had Discos and Range Rovers for 20 years,I got lucky with very few faults, but I dropped JLR as there are so many better cars out there. Hate the new Defender. It still appears to be an aspirational car, and people put up with the faults.

[@thedoctorsgarage]

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[@rubytuesday1345]

Love Land Rover. Had 12 over the past 35 years and loved them all. Never had an issue right from series vehicles up to the latest D5. If you don’t like them, then buy a faceless Jerry can or a Bland Cruiser. I’ll stick with the best.

[@kebabimpaler]

Yup windscreen leaked here too. HSE luxury disco 5. Out of warranty got away with a reseat of windscreen thank goodness.

[@bjs7442]

I had the Discovery four from new for four years and did 60k miles. Not an issue at all. One set of tyres at 38k miles and three services. Thats it . Did I buy a Disco 5 ? No went to an Audi Q7 simply because the Disco5 has a smaller less usable boot than Disco 4 and I need a big usable boot. Audi now 41K miles 3 1/2 years old . Two services and not a single issue. Wanted to change to a Defender this year but the boot is far too small. Its a downsized Disco4 which also has its quality issues. I am told by my local dealer the extended version may not be sold after all.Next car another Q7 or BMW X7

[@thedoctorsgarage]

The defender 130 looks good but good to be expensive I think

[@duncan1271]

One question. You seem to be aware in advance of all of the problems with this model. Why buy a car with these issues. It’s a bit like running through a minefield you know is there! I have an old defender…..get one of these😎

[@thedoctorsgarage]

To be fair the old defenders are solid!

[@Mobythelandy]

Hi doc. Check the roof rail mounting positions. Pre drilled holes in the roof regardless if you have roof rails. These holes are covered with tape from the factory and then covered with trim. The tape eventually degrades. Good luck

[@waynechalkey9050]

Hi My Discovery 2017 which I bought new and had a leaking windscreen, I had the car for a week and had total power loss. It’s was raining at the time, Landrover breakdown engineer said there was a problem in the fuse box in the passenger footwell, the car was dragged on to to low loader and taken to the dealer for a week and they couldn’t find the problem. A year later I parked the car on a neighbours drive which was a slight incline and went on holiday for a week on our return the car was flooded the fuse box was dripping with water and the centre consul and cup holders was full of water and the carpets were saturated. The car was dried out new carpets fitted and they refitted the windscreen, l asked Landrover for an extended warranty but they refused. The car was probably leaking water in the ever since a bought it. Just out of the warranty when the car was just over 3 years old the battery failed, which I’m sure water dripping in to the electrics didn’t help. Then the windscreen failed a second time the dealer and could only fit me in for the repair in two weeks time. They wanted me to pay for the repair and then try to get Landrover to pay me back, I wasn’t willing to wait so sorted it my self. Also I had total cooling fluid loss which was caused by a damaged sharp bracket in the engine bay rubbing on a pipe. Which were its was positioned could have only happened when the car was being built. This is the third time the car been taken on a low loader back to the dealer. I sent emails with videos of water dripping from the windscreen, photos of the damaged bracket and Landrover still wouldn’t extend my warranty. My past 4 cars have been Landrover’s, 3 have been brand new but that didn’t make any difference. I felt Landrover treated me terribly. Once the car was 4 years old I was very concerned that a major fault would occur which would cost me thousands to repair, so I sold it and now I have a Mercedes’ I would get rid of your Discovery before it cost you a fortune to repair, I loved the Discovery but the build quality doesn’t match the price. ONLY BUY A LANDROVER WITH A LONG WARRANTY

[@thedoctorsgarage]

Sounds like you had a nightmare!

[@macca2820]

Had exactly same fault on 2015 d4, had it 5 years was a beautiful nightmare , could never rely on it , wishbones went , airbags fault , previously had a Nissan terrano for 20 years apart from a replacement clutch it was indestructible

[@stevendavenport364]

Good luck I hope you are successful with your negotiations. I've always fancied a Land Rover/ Range Rover but never had the courage to buy one. Many of my friends and family have taken the plunge. However their experiences with reliability and build quality have always put me off. I still think they look fantastic though. Great post, very informative.

[@skinwalker_]

I was thinking about my first suv and went in the new discovery and loved it but I’m bot into self punishment so will probably get the new X5 which is amazing.

[@andyjones6307]

I have a LR4 2017 low mileage top of the range 3.0TDV6. I absolutely love the car and space. But in the last two years I’ve had leaking sunroof which would fill the footwells, new alternator and pulleys and the final straw crankshaft failure causing catastrophic engine failure. In total it’s cost me £10k+ in two years. I would love a LR5 but it seems they haven’t improved things.

[@paullewis6858]

Really wanted a Disco sport for 7 seats, space & go anywhere. But LR reliability is an issue.

[@nickshrubsall3518]

Maybe a rolled up sheet of kitchen roll in the bottom corner of the windscreen to collect the water so it get into the dashboard and electrics for now ? I use a bucket in my TD5 ......