true crime community on tiktok ... yikes

[@nikabunni]

i guess you haven’t seen those tiktoks where a girl is “getting ready to meet ted bundy” and then the act like they’re dead it’s so disgusting

[@vintageaesthetic4603]

Wait- those exist??

[@anzuki-chan]

jesus fucking Christ...

[@jamiethegaymie]

Those literally made me shake. It's so disgusting I got so fucking mad

[@jamiethegaymie]

I was really hoping Sarah would bring them up in this video. Hopefully she'll do another on them

[@sarahbarabe8470]

Glad I never downloaded tiktok

[@GM-jo6hp]

Imagine having a life ripped cruelly and painfully away from you and then having some people on TikTok either making fun of what happened to you or glorifying the one who killed you

[@bthehuman6240]

I be rolling in my grave like bitch (#｀-_ゝ-)

[@mewmew6158]

I'd haunt these kids for their entire life

[@veelavon]

mm chicken

[@baileysubliminals7192]

Grace Alexandra I don't care if its a harmless joke but glorifying it is horrible.

[@saintpansy]

Tittie

[@becca269]

“he would have murdered you just the same as he did everyone else so...” the monotone way you said that was iconic

[@becca269]

Hannah Elias ok? still funny

[@strawberrylemonade995]

Time please?

[@Periwinkie22]

Strawberry Lemonade 5:51

[@charlithotmelioandpiggyson1641]

Id love that

[@esmith7915]

Unrelated to the topic but the colors of her hair and her sweater are literally so pretty together

[@trashleyxvx1359]

E Smith FACTS 🖤

[@hannap8052]

the first thing I noticed!

[@collinpizzo986]

you're absolutely right anf should say it louder

[@lakalq11km]

She's GORGEOUS

[@wonderland.5]

@@lakalq11km gcgcgckzbin.info/www/bejne/e6a7dKxqg7R1fK8

[@monkeyming5545]

You’d think more people taking interest in killer psychology and how ignored mental illness can drive people to do unspeakable things would start a conversation.... but everyone’s treating it like “GUYS IM SUCH A PSYCHOPATH!! OMG GUYS THIS SERIAL KILLER IS SOO CUTE!!”

[@googoogaga7986]

Some of the killer povs are interesting, there’s cool stuff on there but it’s the few dodgy ones who ruin it, causing videos like these to occur and the true crime community gets a bad name, I’m interested in killer psychology and psychology itself and I’m sad that tiktok is hated now, the guy in this video’s thumbnail makes interesting ones (chandler) even though they’re very glamorized, the acting is GREAT

[@nat3321]

I'm very very very interested in serial killer/violent criminal psychology and how it effects family and friends of both the victim and perp. It's one of the reasons I want to be a criminal prosecutor (my drive to be a lawyer is getting me through high school and DE, honestly😂). It really sucks how the TCC gets a bad rap; not all of us have crushes on Ted Bundy

[@sampwassa428]

@@nat3321 kzbin.info/www/bejne/e6a7dKxqg7R1fK8

[@wonderland.5]

@@sampwassa428 your voice is amazing kyle

[@juliuspearson4202]

unspeakable things being suicide and self harm. we (sociopaths) are more likely to harm ourselves than others and be abused than abuse others.

[@haileylane1322]

Casting strictly “ugly” people to play killers also could be harmful. Cinematically and in real life, I find that pretty people are associated with being good and “ugly” people are considered bad. If all killers were played by “ugly” people, that just furthers that point and way of thinking. People who society considers “ugly” shouldn’t always be typecast as bad people, and conventionally “pretty” people shouldn’t always be typecast as good and nice. Haven’t we realized that outward appearance has nothing to do with how you treat others, or if you’re a good or bad person?

[@julesbreen6355]

Hailey Lane Also the fact most serial killers used their good looks, and superficial charm to lure people, and is part of the reason they were so good at killing.

[@N_H4PP1F13R]

Facts!

[@tijanaself897]

I feel like its deeper than realizing appearance has nothing to do with actions, its probably instinctual

[@chloe-bq5zw]

I AGREE 100%

[@geetika6540]

i guess they should cast more unknown actors, not ones that thousands of girls already swoon over

[@thekawaiicripple]

I’m horrified at the thought of being a family member of someone that was murdered by a serial killer and then seeing people glorifying, romanticizing, and defending the person who took your loved one away.

[@damianmargarit9945]

im so sorry, people really can be ignorant sometimes :-/

[@kraziiXIII]

My aunt and uncle knew one of the coed killer's victims from high school. My mom and I found that out when we were discussing the Netflix series that's based around interviews of serial killers by the FBI in like the 1960s and 70s and mentioned him being an important part of the show. Their faces blanched so quickly. Like these killer's still affect people today. It ain't cute.

[@thekawaiicripple]

elusive I’m so sorry your family had to go through that, you are so right that these things don’t stop affecting the people that were harmed and it’s disturbing for anyone to romanticize a person who has caused life long trauma to many people.

[@alexandramarin4826]

The image of the baby with the bag around it’s head in the coloring book upset me so much.. I can’t believe a company is actually selling something like that.

[@gymnasticsedits_7789]

me too 😖

[@GirlOnTheBalcony]

I think it’s supposed to be a babydoll, it that it makes it any better, but if you look at the shoulders and thighs it’s illustrated like their doll joints.

[@alexandramarin4826]

GirlOnTheBalcony it does make it a little better! It’s just overall a little creepy given the context of the book 🥴

[@HamburglerStanAccount]

That honestly messed me up. My sister died from suffocation from a plastic bag and that was a horrible image in my mind to relive.

[@alexandramarin4826]

Gosh I am so sorry :( it’s honestly horrible and honestly shame on the person who put that in the book

[@LiliTamai]

what about the tik toks that are like "POV - I'm your abusive boyfriend ..." or "POV - I'm your kidnapper..." some weird stuff.

[@fionabrennan9148]

Dude.... _what_

[@planetz8559]

oh don't forget the "pov: my kidnapper let's me go but i fell in love with him and don't want to leave." thing. that exists. it disgusts me.

[@ananya8232]

I also saw one that was about r***

[@damianmargarit9945]

god, i can't believe people seriously can't wrap around that hmmm.... ITS RLY BAD ??? like why is that SOOO hard to understand??

[@excrementalcrisis234]

That is terrible, I’ve seen that tooz

[@thatgrrrrrl]

these serial killers are NOT attractive at all get ur eyes check everyone I'm in confusion????

[@rdiaz1243]

They are all just creepy musty white men

[@tbird7652]

She put Richard Speck first, like honey.... Praying for you

[@tam9639]

I mean obviously ugly asf internally but Richard Ramirez does look like the exact type of half dead looking greasy haired type these people love so

[@thatgrrrrrl]

@@tam9639 lmfaooo

[@vivid5203]

Tristen MT your comment made me bust out laughing

[@roseredmayne]

A friend of mine was murdered and I haven’t been into true crime ever since. I knew what it was like to be someone close to a murder victim, and I don’t obsess over finding serial killers and “how they dun it” due to someone I cared for being killed.

[@damianmargarit9945]

i'm very sorry for your loss, I hope you've found some type of closure/clarity :-)

[@julkaczaps1307]

I understand being attracted to Zac Effron (cause come on) playing Ted Bundy. I understand being interested in serial killers from "scientific" (I can't find a better word) point of view because let's face it - it is fascinating what's going on in twisted minds - but finding real life Ted Bundy is just... I don't know, impossible is not the right word but some what hard to imagine for me. You just can't separate a person from their actions. Not in this case.

[@tperez210]

you put it perfectly!

[@themaccabees2219]

Falling in love with your kidnapper is called.. Ugh I forget it but its some type of thingy virus. Its disgusting but they don't control it I think.. I didn't read about it that much

[@rosetyler8292]

idk i just feel like most of these serial killers hated women and there was no real depth to their actions besides that

[@themaccabees2219]

@@marimidoriya6059 oh yeah! Thanks for making me remember

[@themaccabees2219]

@@kayawhittaker5862 thank you!

[@MsAquamonkey]

I am interested in serial killers, purely based on the psychology behind them, why they do what they do, nature vs nature and such. I have had people assume that means I am in love with them. I certainly am not. Not even close. Dark humour is fine, but there's a line. There needs to be an obvious line.

[@sarahbarabe8470]

As another comment mentioned, you'd think talking about true crime would inspire more people to study psychology and understand the scientific aspect of what makes people become killers but nope it's just people fangirling/fanboying over them.

[@fiestyfox2207]

@@sarahbarabe8470 Psychology degrees are too expensive of an education where you either cant find a job or you make like minimum wage with it. If you want to be in debt making 25k the rest of your life then go for it. (This is all assuming you actually mean getting a psychology degree, I'm making assumptions here.)

[@MsAquamonkey]

@@sarahbarabe8470 I would love to study psychology, but can't afford it, and don't want to get into debt. My mental health comes first, and I saw what debt did to my partner, so I can't risk getting into it myself.

[@cheyannecaballero2814]

Thank you!!! You explained it. My boyfriend gets concerned with how much I watch because he thinks I'm going to be obsessed with them and all that shit and I'm like no I like how their minds work. It probably doesn't help I'm convinced I'm not going to die naturally.

[@MsAquamonkey]

@@cheyannecaballero2814 Creepy stories/true crime content has helped me, a lot. Never used to get any attention, cat-called, followed, anything like that. Up until last year. I had one guy try to follow me home, one order me to get into his car, two, in the same day, one got out of his car and refused to let me walk past him. He only moved because cars were piling up and he was getting shouted at. The second stopped his car and just stared at me, all the way down the road I was on. He only stopped because another man saw him and called him out on it. Now, I have anxiety disorder, so the first thing I do is panic, run through all negative potential outcomes, which clouds my mind, so I am vulnerable. However, watching crime videos and shows taught me how to deal with people like that. I know what to do, but I know its a matter of luck, really. You have to hope they don't mean you too much harm, or that they let you live/are rather dim and you manage to escape/get to safety and call the police.

[@halcyc5432]

Imagine asking for Christmas from your parents, as a teenage girl, the serial killer colouring book.

[@halcyc5432]

Megan Lewis this truly triggered me 😂

[@ZwarteKonijn]

In a dark humor kind of way, I found the coloring book a bit funny. Like the punchline of a joke: - Stop obsessing over serial killers, get a hobby! Even coloring pictures would be better! (fan)- Well... Okay! (honestly, I found that coloring book disturbing)

[@halcyc5432]

ZwarteKonijn I’d be severely concerned if you didn’t

[@ivaniamoreno7910]

I would and there is nothing wrong with it? It is just a coloring book for true crime junkies. It is another way that informs people of the killer and what they are known for, it does not disrespect the victims nor glorify the killers themselves? It is literally equivalent to buying a book on the subject or googling them out of curiosity its just in form of a coloring book.

[@kateseegar1100]

Honestly...I kinda want it tho...it kinda makes me laugh and honestly, the art style is kinda like those caricature stands at festivals which makes it even more ridiculous...

[@lohanthonyfan6669]

idk why but “mental illness community” is sending me😭😭😭

[@disguisedboots]

me tooo lmaaao

[@rdiaz1243]

Me too omg it sounds so ridiculous

[@gothtarrare]

It's usually a community of people with other mental illnesses helping each other and supporting one another, but oh God the trenches of it is bad. I have D.I.D. and being surrounded by edgy 12 year olds talking about their "evil personality" makes me wanna throw myself down a flight of stairs.

[@user-nm6nq8nu7e]

ArtGoth i get wanting to be open and talking about mental health but just bc you think a serial killer is hot doesnt make you a psychopath😳

[@kira-minoo]

@@user-nm6nq8nu7e huh??

[@daniboy4153]

The coloring book part scared me badly Imagine if a child accidentally stumbled upon that

[@crushssoda]

So we shouldn’t have sex colour books or curse work colour books?

[@halleys.comett]

Mcflamango okay but there a kindergartner isn’t gonna know what fuck means but the same kid is going to see a baby with a bag over it’s head and understand

[@loriolivia366]

it’s just pictures with no colour it’s fine. i have one

[@sunnysteph_o]

Exactly! I’ve seen comments that are like “It’s just a baby doll” but who cares? It’s a coloring book that could easily make a child want to look through it. I can’t even imagine how that could affect a child seeing that. It’s fine if you want to buy that but please just keep it far away from any kids like yeesh.

[@selenakrisher353]

I don’t feel like this is a “true crime” community. This is like a serial killer Stan community. If you look at the true crime community on KZbin, they aren’t people who love and fantasize about serial killers. They discuss cases. Kinda misrepresents a whole community.

[@alishiagray3541]

Yes!

[@VampKat]

Yeah that’s what I thought this video was going to be about. There are a lot of problems with the true crime community but this isn’t that

[@melloncollie3321]

I've listened to you and ReadyToGlare complain about your neighbors in the past hour and I am LIVING.

[@rainestar82]

RTG + Sarah Hawkinson collab would break youtube and I'm ready for it. They can yell at their neighbors together

[@rx500android]

S a m e

[@josie955]

Maybe they're both the others noisy neighbours... 🤔

[@melloncollie3321]

@@josie955 that would mean that Sarah screams "help me" like a small child quite frequently 😂

[@cowboylikepee]

did that girl really just try and say edmund kemper was cute I-

[@elizabeth-leavesandreads2890]

Sis is delusional

[@lasagna312]

Right?? And I know a lot of people think Richard Ramirez was hot, but..... I don't see it? Maybe it's because I'm not attracted to literal psychopaths.

[@cowboylikepee]

lasagna it baffles me how someone could be attracted to him with teeth like his 🤢

[@mariahhenderson1470]

Who is Edmund Kemper? Do you know what he did?

[@cowboylikepee]

Glory Who he was a serial killer who murdered lots of women including his own mother and grandparents

[@rubydarling7564]

Ted bundy is attractive physically... But a normal person would look at what he did and suddenly his physical attraction doesn't exist anymore to them Edit: Hi, you guys can stop commenting about how you dont personally find him physically attractive. Nobody is physically attractive to everyone, thats not the point. The point is a lot of people DO find him to be handsom, but that shouldnt matter to the average person once they find out he is a monster. Thank you, and I hope your all having a good day 🙏

[@ash5779]

ted bundy was butt-ugly 😳

[@sailormoon6842]

@@Chaoticpixie69 he has crazy eyes, kinda like Joe from the series 'You' on netflix, if you see a guy who looks at you like that run fast and don't look back

[@GabrielleFct]

Lola Paez yesss big empty eyes

[@stanloona3285]

I always thought people only found Ted Bundy attractive because they have a serial killer fetish not because they actually find him objectively attractive

[@justsomehipsterwithaniphon705]

Ruby Darling Agreed

[@Lunixis]

Oh got, the serial killer coloring book is awful. I was trying to find my friends a horror-themed coloring book for xmas and that one popped up and I was like “Ew, no?? Why???”

[@fionabrennan9148]

Lunixis Yeah I found it by accident too and was like ??? _excuse me_ I just wanted some classy curse word coloring books for a friend lmao

[@eliasg8246]

Yeah, those are ridiculous and awful. If you are looking for a general horror one (not serial killer themed) Beauty of Horror has some pretty cool ones, though.

[@goodtimes8229]

@@fionabrennan9148 what are curse word coloring books?

[@fionabrennan9148]

Good Times Haha they are pretty much what the name would suggest. A coloring book usually with cute little mosaic or mandala designs and a bad word/phrase written in the middle. Sometimes they’ll be cutesy pictures of little animals cussing you out. And you just color it like normal. I think it’s just the whole juxtaposition that draws people in.

[@eliasg8246]

Fiona Brennan oh, those are amazing. I googled it because I was curious, but now I think I might need to buy one.

[@megamilk5792]

It’s so weird that we live in a time where people both get offended by everything but also lack the ability to be sensitive about certain things that shouldn’t be joked about

[@sarahhawkinson]

that’s a great way to describe society’s current social climate!

[@xTheKillJoyGirlx]

Did you know people make fanfiction of serial killer and school shooters? 🤢

[@leftaccount5095]

Bridget Zuniga ok. Now i gotta tell these people about the countless deaths in school shootings.

[@brianbellsutibaddie2562]

ew ew ew ew why stop ew

[@archivxst]

Bridget Zuniga Omg please tell me you’re lying-

[@somewhereinbetween]

say sike PLEASE

[@damianmargarit9945]

god why are people so STUPID

[@lovelifelaugh2727]

Blows my mind my ancestors never felt the cringe feeling

[@spookysliceofbread4889]

@DJ DOZY omg! not skin! COVER THAT UP YOUNG LADY

[@wonderland.5]

@Mya Heart your voice is really good

[@kitty-zc1zf]

Cares Katherine probably would have lynched me either way

[@planetz8559]

@@kitty-zc1zf Ross lynched that is

[@magdalena_dewinter]

the ahs fandom is so bad for this, after 1984 there’s so many Richard Ramirez fan arts and role players, probably cosplayers to

[@lizp.9873]

Madison Donaldson the ahs fandom is full of serial killer romanticizers because of tate lmao

[@tammy5466]

Sadly yeah but I think it's more of how they're portrayed in the show.

[@zoey2421]

I honestly find it really sad. I for sure used to romanticize serial killers and I know that at least some of that comes from a place of abuse. Killers like Bundy were men who were "broken" and brutalized women to feel powerful. I'm sure a lot of teen girls who have abuse in their pasts or presents are just dealing with that abuse by romanticizing the abuse of these horrible men. It's really sad to think about, but it's totally normal as a thought process.

[@Hana.Behl-Lecter]

I cant imagine being a loved one of a victim and seeing all these people romanticizing the idea of being murdered.

[@melodyrose9692]

tik tok has a lot of issues tbh

[@mewmew6158]

So many predators making moves on kids/teens and even if they get deleted, they can just make a new account💀

[@melodyrose9692]

Mew Mew exactly

[@damianmargarit9945]

OMG THANK YOU, I tell people this and all they do is criticize me

[@lexluthor6450]

@@damianmargarit9945 now people despise TikTok lmao

[@its_maddo2476]

ted bundt was able to do all that he did bc he was attractive and “well mannered” and people liked him. if they portrayed him as ugly or anti social in the movie it wouldn’t have made sense to who bundy was. i know this was a small part of the video but oh well

[@baydiac]

fakeplasticbees The “charming” persona people talk about doesn’t usually refer to being able to seduce women to their deaths. When people say that about him they’re referring to the fact that no one suspected him and he charmed everyone he met regardless of whether they were looking into and/or worried about the murders.

[@jesuschrist788]

I think the real reason he was able to kill so many women was his intelligence, he was a smart man and was very calculated about everything he did (even though this method of thinking was kind of lost towards the end). However his social attreactiveness did help hide his identity a little as he was a lawyer and seemed to be a happy and well raised citizen with a good humour and fairly attractive looks, which would make him seem like an unlikely criminal as he didn't fit most peoples ideas of one ; in the end he wouldnt have been able to get that far on only looks but i think they helped to some degree.

[@sterling2455]

Well i have one thing to say on behalf of every sane person: YIKES

[@bizarreisthenewblack]

why can't they just be atracted to the actor? why does it have to be them as a killer?

[@harharharlee9308]

Someone made a ted bundy themed video and I commented that “this isn’t funny”, I got chewed out so bad.

[@spicyapplejuice9099]

I want to know how they tried defending themselves

[@harharharlee9308]

Cactus arms “iTs jUsT A JoKe” “ItS NoT ThAT SeRiOus” etc. like say that to the victims families /:

[@damianmargarit9945]

this is why i've deleted tik tok

[@MsTinkerbelle87]

They want to be victims? I wanna get off on the next planet...

[@oziku1816]

Guess what suicidal people exist

[@MsTinkerbelle87]

oziku and? I’ve been suicidal but I didn’t seek out a serial killer wtf?

[@zooweemama8828]

Im going to mars who wants to come with

[@elizalee814]

the lack of respect for the victims and their families is so disturbing to me like can these people get a trip

[@chelseamiranda8219]

I’m glad you mentioned the coloring book. I saw it on tik tok and I was thinking that it was weird. I was shocked to see a lot of people really liked it. I also saw one with a girl cosplaying as one of the columbine shooters and she was basically saying it was annoying that people told her she was romanticizing it.

[@damianmargarit9945]

if she was gonna cosplay something so horrible, she should've been ready for the backlash 💀

[@harleyandersen7356]

There’s such a fine line between being interested in true crime, and then romanticizing/glorifying it.. great video.

[@raekumor]

I've seen that third guy a LOT on tiktok and he genuinely makes me uncomfortable. Like this is a whole character he has. He makes so many videos as this "70s serial killer" and they're all just awful.

[@thesama02]

I think casting "ugly people" would be kinda dumb, considering people have different tastes. My freak ass did not care if Mads Mikkelsen was cutting up corpses (in Hannibal the series), I'd still drool over him lol. But it's fictional fortunately.

[@rainestar82]

theres still a big difference between finding a person playing a serial killer attractive (and it carries over into the role) and finding a real life serial killer attractive. Im glad youre one of the people who can separate it

[@syd8897]

thesama02 me too sister, amen 🙏🏼 I love mads!!

[@emilyhead7262]

I'm screaming at the "ya'LL MAKE ME sIcK!!!!" *vomiting noises*

[@alexasunshine83]

YES 400K! deserved!

[@sarahhawkinson]

thank youuuu 💕

[@GlitchedTree]

My sister got the Serial Killer coloring book for Christmas even though she’s not into true crime *like* *that.* I don’t even understand the concept behind it, it’s just gross

[@doomedbynarrative]

tiktok must be the most obnoxious platform we've ever had and i'm genuinely disappointed it didn't die out before 2020

[@applemusic751]

it is deadass another vine lmfao

[@chonumil]

lets not act like musical.ly wasnt a thing

[@jaimeewest6566]

I agree. The comments on there are terrible and criticizing. There’s so much bullying, self righteous, sensitive, obnoxious comments I can barely handle it anymore.

[@raeannh194]

p a d f o o t tik tok is musical.ly

[@damianmargarit9945]

finally someone who agrees

[@deannamartin799]

Me: has a bad day Sarah: I got you, here's a new video

[@jjonghyunie]

there's a difference between finding a fictional character that is a murderer attractive and an actual murderer. for example, do i find jerome valeska attractive? absolutely. but, do i find ted bundy attractive? only when he's played by zac efron.

[@rx500android]

Ok so I actually love Tate as a character because I think he's super interesting, but he's fictional. It's totally different than having a crush on Ted Bundy for example, which is disgusting and sick in my opinion

[@krustykrab_pizza]

I agree, fictional bad guys and killers are okay to have crushes on but not real life ones

[@slowclapswellwellwell6423]

@@krustykrab_pizza I know that this is a little late, but I feel as if having a crush on a fictional murderer is also a bad thing. In the end, a fictional killer and an actual killer are still equals. The only difference is that you know that one of the two isn't real, but they have both done terrible things. If you were to place the fictional killers into our reality, they would still be murderers.

[@rx500android]

@@slowclapswellwellwell6423 as long as you are able to differentiate life from fiction, and you acknowledge that the the fictional actions are not fictional in real life, and as long as you don't idolize the actions or the person, and honestly, as long as you have a healthy mindset, it's ok. I, for an instances can differentiate those things, and still find a character like Tate interesting. I do not condone his fictional actions, because people have taken horrendous actions like his and they certainly *weren't* fictional. Overall I agree with your point, but as long as you keep a healthy mindset, and find interest in the character as a character only (and I think it's ok to think the actor is good looking), I don't think there is a problem

[@fatbitch7168]

@@rx500android Same here tbh. I'm obsessed with guys like the Joker, Tate Langdon, Billy Loomis, JD, Patrick Hockstetter, Jerome Valeska, etc., but I would never in a lifetime be attracted to real life sick fucks (quite on the contrary, really) and I find people who do so to be nauseating, dumb and disrespectful. That's in very poor taste and a totally oblivious and dangerous take on true crime. I know it might be problematic that fictional psychos are so glamorized/romanticized in movies and TV (even to the point of being redeemed sometimes) bc of these reasons, but they don't stop being fictional characters, the villains of our favourite stories, and we all can agree that sometimes a good villain is even more compelling than a hero. I think some things are inevitable but when it comes to fiction you are not hurting anybody. The line has to be drawn when it comes to real life unless your preferences affect you or others in your private life, but I guess you get what I mean

[@ANabiha]

That shit is terrifying, the drowning in a bathtub pov??? I am SCARED

[@BooksToAshes]

That actually gave me anxiety, why do people think that shit is hot

[@karlaneedshelp933]

I’ve been waiting to see a video like this!!! As a teenager on TikTok I’m bombarded with videos like this. It annoys the absolute hell out of me.

[@ninap01840]

I'm currently in school for Forensic Psychology and have spent QUITE some time studying abnormal psychology, specifically the minds and behaviors of serial killers (who most of the time are psychopaths/sociopaths aka have Antisocial Personality Disorder. It's also important to note that not all psychopaths/sociopaths/those with ASPD are serial killers or killers at all. In fact many of them are functional people and are oftentimes in high-power positions such as CEO. They're very good at manipulation and can often easily make their way to the top because of that). It's understandable and normal to have a fascination with things like true crime, serial killers, profiling, criminal justice, forensics, etc...whether we're scared of death or not, it fascinates us. The dark unknown fascinates us; hell I wouldn't be in this field if I wasn't fascinated by all this dark shit too, but to worship and be attracted to these people (killers) is extremely odd from a psychological perspective, especially considering everything these people have done. All of this has gone too far, regardless if one is approaching it as "dark humor" or whatever else it's justified as. These people were remorseless, cold, manipulative murderers. They took people's daughters, sons, mothers, fathers, family, friends, BABIES...they also most likely tortured and killed animals early on in their life. They tore people's lives apart and created mass fear amongst communities and those who fit specific victimologies. This shit is not a joke. Rape, murder, necrophilia, stalking, fascination and the action of dismemberment,etc....these are only a HANDFUL of the horrific things these people have done. And suddenly it's cute? People think that they can relate to these people because maybe they were bullied or "misunderstood" or had traumatic childhoods, etc....but there are tons of people out there who have been through worse and have not gone on to slaughter other people. There was more to their damaged psyche than just being "misunderstood". There's something very wrong with individuals like this (whether it be because their is something wrong structurally with the brain, imbalance of neurochemicals, previous mental health issues, etc), and they should not be romanticized or sexualized in any way. That's a) extremely disturbing and may speak to one's own dark (potentially worrying) internal fantasies and b) is extremely disrespectful to the victims. THEY are the ones who should be remembered in a beautiful way. At the end of the day, whether someone is joking about how much they "love" these killers or not, what they did and what future killers will do is not a joke and treating it like it is goes to show how immature people are and how they are in fact, not ready to enter the real world (of abnormal or forensic psychology, which most "true crime" fans claim they are going into) where these extremely dangerous people exist. Joking to get through difficult things is fine, but this has taken on a whole new level of something beyond "dark humor" and tbh it's kind of concerning.

[@London-ke2pq]

I’ve seen people cosplaying actual serial killers and as a cosplayer myself I was disgusted

[@Gerardwayscigarettes]

i dont think its the worst thing unless they are thinking they are cool and are like i want to be them, but if they are wanting to be them then its rlly gross, i went as jeffrey dahmer last year for halloween and i didnt go because i thought he was cool i went as him because its one of the most intresting cases and im intrested in true crime not because i think hes cool or i wanted to be him i think thats just gross

[@BooksToAshes]

The worst part about killers and people who do mass shootings get written into history, sometimes they do these things for that reason alone (lots of people do it now to get on the news). It's a vicious, horrible cycle. I'm into the psychology of serial killers and crime, but wish the spotlight was less on the murderer and on their acts and victims so they aren't worshipped the way they wanted to be.

[@offwheat9403]

I can understand casting attractive actors as serial killers is only okay if it applies to the serial killer. A few serial killers were considered “attractive” and they used it to their advantage.

[@em3952]

absolutely guilty of romanticising fictional characters like Joe from You or Tate from AHS, and there are one or two murderers who i think are physically attractive (i can’t think off the top of my head but there’s definitely some) difference is i know the line. i know the difference between thinking someone has a nice face and liking a person or anything they stand for and it doesn’t affect my opinion of them thinking they have an attractive physical appearance. just like i’m so aware of how flawed those fictional characters are and how i shouldn’t like them as much as i do. some people just don’t seem to see there’s a line and they’re crossing it.

[@erinnenchanted3164]

I think Joe from you is incredibly well cast. He's handsome but not too handsome. If I passed him on the street I don't think I'd look twice, but if I spoke to him I think I'd see something. It's a very particular kind of attractive, non threatening maybe. Rambling because it's 6am but I just think he's perfect for the role.

[@dfsgirl]

Tate on tumblr omg 😳 that brought me back

[@danann4103]

Congrats on 400k!! 🥳 You deserve all of it! I’ve been a fan for over a year now and always look forward to your uploads

[@maggotlord7934]

all of your serial killer videos got recommended to me out of nowhere a few days ago, am hooked on your personality

[@faithfrazier6344]

There was a nurse on ticktock that made a video saying that anyone who has had a miscarriage it's all your fault it's your fault you lost the child and as someone who had recently lost one myself I found that extremely insensitive and wrong, from what I've been told by doctors and such usually it's not the mother's fault when she miscarriages it's usually some defect with the embryo

[@idkilikeeggos5261]

I don’t like Tate, I like Evan Peters. People need to separate the person from the character. Like Evan Peters is cute, Tate is not.

[@thatgrrrrrl]

Tik Tok is too cringey I can't even watch it to make fun of it

[@sophiA-uj4cq]

Congratulations

[@mirandar.cortez2889]

These kids are the Jeff the killer lovers of the new generation 🤣

[@Jadef0xxxx]

Oh God, I remember those days. Jeff The Killer, anime boy lovers

[@pixility5612]

These serial killers just look like the type of people who used to act like they were dinosaurs as kids

[@cynthiamayfield5664]

The serial killer coloring book is such poor taste. Like wtf

[@ezra6898]

this brought me back to when i watched a ted bundy documentary and was so filled with rage and malice that i sat for two hours and reported and blocked over a hundred stan accounts on twt. a lot of them were suspended, thankfully, but the things i had to see...yikes.

[@clarawolf2978]

those people who romanticize killers are truly a disgrace to everyone who really is interested in true crime

[@skye6444]

I get where the people are coming from when they say attractive actors shouldn’t be cast to portray real killers. However, not everyone is attracted to the same people, so no matter who it is there will always be someone who finds them attractive. And in the case of having Ross Lynch and Zac Efron cast it makes sense as Jeffrey Dahmer and Ted Bundy were seen as attractive, so it works/makes sense for the role. Some people also argue that they look similar, I don’t agree as I personally don’t really see it and don’t want to compare anyone to a serial killer.

[@MollyLikovich]

can you imagine that casting call for a serial killer movie? "only ugly people need apply"

[@mishaalkhawaja2102]

Her: says “first things first” Me: a tiktok addict “first things first let me get that introduction”

[@gloomi00]

Can you review the show “you” on Netflix ?

[@kahlenalong5093]

I own 2 serial killer coloring books because it gives me a chance to learn about them while having and activity, it is a little weird when i realize what they have done but it does give me a whole new insight on how the world was back when they killed.

[@abbyruffell9200]

Petition for more Tik Tok content

[@clairebog7919]

I hope these people realize soon that liking serial killers isn't 'quirky'. Those people did awful things ruined peoples lives. Imagine being someone affected by their crimes and now people are basically defending them and ignoring what they did because of how they look.

[@emmarose7738]

“Finest female and male killers” shows pic of Ed kemper............ok

[@forestings]

As a person who almost got kidnapped one week ago, I haTE HATE H A T E these pov tiktoks of a cute guy kidnapping u and smiling at u.. it's not cute. You're afraid you're gonna fucking die. I was lucky a restaurant was about to close and I ran inside and called the cops.

[@goofy_gooberism]

Those POVs are soooooo creepy, who thought that was a good idea? People messed up

[@vnuiee]

UR REACTIONS WHEN THEY PUT THE “FINEST MALE AND FEMALE SERIAL KILLERS” LMAOOO LITERALLY SAME 💀💀💀💀💀

[@mollymermaid1398]

The fact that half of the “this looks like a job for Me” tik toks used the wrong “too” 😑

[@kazinome]

4:10 "ARE YOU TWINS WITH JAEHYUN" STOPP IM IN TEARS HE LOOKS NOTHING LIKE HIM 😭😭😭 psst follow my twitter i want moots @cixltm

[@kathy6149]

kboos look at any asian man and start thinking they look like their oppas 🤢🤢

[@kathy6149]

same with people seeing an asian man in a baseball cap and think he looks like tadashi

[@bizarreisthenewblack]

that book with the baby dying was so horrible :'(

[@aliennine568]

people on tiktok really like to act "PsYcHo" in their pov's which can further negative stereotypes about say schizophrenia or tourettes. they fake ticks (which can trigger a real tick attack) and make it look cool and stuff

[@hayleymarse2853]

I find killers, especially serial killers, fascinating not because I find them attractive, but because I like trying to understand what makes people do the things they do. I can’t imagine wanting to date a serial killer

[@crowthebro]

5:57 so are we just ignoring that one commenter with common sense saying "some of y'all have daddy issues and it really shows"

[@kiwiscone]

at first i was confused cause the only true crime on tiktok i knew was story-times of actual cases- i had no idea this existed 😭

[@riotradarada]

I literally flinch when pictures of Ted Bundy and Dahmer come on screen, they just look so absolutely evil it's not even funny And it's scary if somebody else has a different opinion then that.

[@sonjaeeh549]

You make nice true crime themed videos. Always. Like they dont glorify the criminals but are still intertaining and informing

[@youraveragestalker8438]

Honestly, 3 years ago i used to be one of those girls. I had a pretty succesful true crime tumblr page. I felt attracted to certain murderers. I even had Ted bundy as my wallpaper... im SO happy i grew out of that. Now that i look back, 14 year old me was something pretty disturbing. And the people in tcc do feel special in a way. I thought that if i met Richard Ramirez, he wouldn't kill me because i'm somehow special to him...WHAT THE FUCK WAS I THINKING. Im happy i've grown.

[@carlaward6508]

U had a ted Bundt poster on ur wall omg

[@evildeities8750]

My sister told me there were edits of serial killers on KZbin, I thought she was joking but what I found was super very weird. I am interested in true crime, but I never realized how people glorify it.

[@meljstephan]

I once thought I was in love, saw him litter, and instantly had no interest in him. Murder is definitely not gonna fly with me

[@KatieoftheNight]

As always love these topics of conversation Sarah! I was thinking, - when I was in high school I had quite a morbid taste and morbid curiosity. Reading everything I could about Ed Gein, hanging out on rotten - dot - com, death videos, and stuff, etc. but over time, I grew out of it. I'm not in that headspace anymore. Teen years are like... a dark journey through the valley of the shadow of death, for many. So, you AREN'T sorry, you AREN'T scared, you AREN'T happy. But as I've become an adult I've developed empathy, compassion, sensitivity, respect, and perspective. There's more than just the icon or the idea when it comes to true crime - there are many many people, people's stories, people's lives, that are touched by these tragedies. There's a human aspect to all of these cases that often just gets omitted, and i hope that many of these people come to realize that as they mature. (Yeah, I know some people in these communities aren't so young, so I don't know what to say for them! lol)

[@rissa11421]

i genuinely enjoy the tiktoks that are made with the serial killer coloring book. The audios of the videos give the information about the killers past and their life while they had been killing. I personally don’t think the coloring books take it _too_ far, it truly just depends on who is using the book and what they are using it for.

[@mctheplaywright]

7:50 I think you can cast someone charming and attractive, in an attempt to stay true to reality. But, if I’m in charge of some (theoretical) movie/tv show/play/etc about a serial killer I’d follow two rules. One, someone unknown. No need to add the already existing love for an actor on the serial killer. Two, an actor who can convincingly play the true demented nature of the killer above all else. When push comes to shove THAT should shine through the charm.

[@sagamagnusson6992]

That chandler guy also made a cosplay of a burn victim I don’t know if he deleted it or not but that’s the reason I unfollowed him. He’s disgusting

[@wizrad1277]

The serial killer pov ones actually scared me. I'm watching this in bed and I had to turn on my light. That's not funny. That's not quirky. That is genuinely disturbing and it truly disappoints me that this is something that some people think is okay.

[@stranged4139]

It'd be interesting to see what you have to say/think about POV ASMRs here on KZbin that are a little darker. Like a POV asmr about being kidnapped etc. Although the TikTok POVs go into the same kind of direction 🤔

[@pamelaboden]

It's so disturbing. And think of all the well known murderers who got married while in prison! What is wrong with these women?!

[@chloedreyy464]

*Finally someone speaks about this !*

[@syviiiia2812]

but like ironically buying the coloring book sounds like a bet🤷‍♀️

[@montannaschmuhl8756]

I could never imagine WANTING a POV of being killed 🤮 sis what?

[@venusianism]

the bathtub one made me really uncomfortable

[@nxbiros]

I’d love to see a vid on EDs on tiktok

[@loriolivia366]

i have a serial killer colouring book. being overly obsessed with true crime and things like that is the same as being obsessed with anything else. just because what interests some people might be a little strange to you or too morbid or whatever. i love true crime and i’m so so so interested in serial killers and what they did and whatever and crimes. but oh my god i wouldn’t hurt anyone if i wanted to

[@fritzy8318]

No. It’s not. It’s not at all. The fuck are you on about. Obsessing over real killers is NOT the same as say being obsessed over fictional killers. Shut the actual fuck up.

[@mizukichan30]

Can I just say, I love the beeped out swear words, is that a new thing or have I just never noticed it? Whichever one, please continue

[@alluringautumn5200]

10:20 so I went on Amazon for a book about hair (a guide to coloring hair or whatever) and in the recommended under it *there was literally a serial killer coloring book. wtffff*