TRUE DETECTIVE Season 1 Episode 8 | "Form and Void" Reaction | FIRST TIME WATCHING

[@EricSarahReact]

Alright, alright, alright! Thank you to everyone for joining in on this unforgettable series! We’re so glad you guys recommended this show. Up next, we’ll be reacting to The Boys and check in on our Patreon in the near future for our exclusive reactions to seasons 2 and 3 of True Detective :) - Eric & Sarah

[@catem3102]

Here we are at last! It's been great. Thanks. 😀

[@lockekappa500]

Season 2 and 3 don't reach the peaks of this show, but they're still good television as far as television goes. Especially S3. I might even like the main character of S3 more than Rust.

[@TheJerbol]

THE BOYS!!!!f

[@chrhdash]

Thank you for this

[@quadeappenheimer8135]

Please tell me your putting series 2 and 3 reaction on KZbin.

[@akhorr7560]

Personally the best season of a tv show EVER. The writing, cinematography, acting, action, 10/10. It's like watching an 8 hour long Oscar-worthy movie.

[@thefilmeffect6089]

I’d go the third best season of all time after Breaking Bad Season 5 and The Wire Season 4, but I’m not going to argue with anyone that think True Detective Season 1 is the best. I’ve watched it 6 or 7 times and it never gets old. This season was lightning in a bottle and it was never going to be replicated.

[@gravedigger8414]

I would say best single season show ever for sure. Breaking Bad has the spot marked for best show, best season, best episode ever. At least for me. But I love True Detective and will not stop tell people to watch it. I also really like season 2, it has grown on me over time. Of course it is not as good as season 1, but it is still good and very dark as well. Season 3 then tho really disappointed me.

[@Micah_4D]

Without a doubt the best season of TV ever.

[@thefilmeffect6089]

@@gravedigger8414 I’d recommend The Wire season 4. I just rewatched it a couple days ago and the writing is every bit as good as True Detective season 1 or Breaking Bad.

[@BullRadu]

i can't decide between this and westworld season 1

[@sahzus]

No matter how many times you watch this season it’s genuinely rewatchable. Matt and woody together is Peak

[@jackmars931]

They called Rust the Tax Man, and he found the guy through tax records.

[@robert___t]

Damn! Nice catch! I've seen this season a dozen times and never put that together. Thanks!

[@HerrNilsson.]

great catch

[@MrFish626]

There's just something about the mix between cosmic horror, pessimism philosophy and crime investigation that just works so well in this season. Rust and Marty's relationship being the thing that ties it all up

[@Afreshio]

don't forget the atmosphere of deep rural Lousiana.

[@PatBrownfield-TheRainmaker]

“And we ain’t gonna get ‘em all, that ain’t what kind of world it is. But we got ours.” Such an amazing show

[@SidPhoenix2211]

"It's all one story. The oldest. Light versus dark." T_____T absolute masterpiece of a tv season.

[@jpar2623]

"Time is a flat circle." "We will be in this room again and again." "Death is not the end." "Someone outside will look down and see our lives as a loop." "We will be doing this again, and again." And the bad guy want to transcend and escape the loop and the flat disk. What does that mean? It means the bad guys know, and Rust suspects, that they are just characters forced to relive the same events again and again, every time someone rewatches the series. Every time someone watches True Detective Season 1, Rust and Cole will be back in those rooms saying the same things over and over again, the killers will be back killing, and the victims will be killed again and again forever. Their "lives" are a loop doing the same things over and over again for our enjoyment. The flat circle is the DVD/Blu Ray disk people will be watching the series on (This was written before digital/streaming became so widespread). So some of the characters know they are trapped on the flat circle to do the same things over and over again. The bad guy hoped by killing enough kids he could transcend and escape from the "flat circle" and into the real (our) world.

[@robert___t]

One thing I never see reactors bring up, is Cary Joji Fukunaga's direction. Out of all the undeniably amazing facets of this season of television (writing, acting), his ability to make Louisiana itself a character in the story is pretty much unparalleled. Anyway, it's been a fun ride watching you both experience this piece of TV magic. Thanks for sharing!

[@FrancoisDressler]

Fukunaga’s brilliance is what the later seasons were missing.

[@johnmichael2977]

Excellent point. If Woody Alan made New York a character in his movies, Fukunaga achieved something very similar here.

[@SidPhoenix2211]

As I understand it, when the season ended, some folks were a little let down as they felt the show didn't fully go into and explore this bad group and all of its cosmic horror/lovecraftian references. I thought that it explored it all just enough, and intentionally so. What I got was that this group of evil bastards... They just wrapped themselves in all this mystique of "carcosa", "yellow king", "death is not the end" etc etc as a way of obfuscating their actual intentions: just wanting to exploit and hurt women and children. Just made me think of the phrase "the banality of evil". And I think that a lesser show might've ended with the entire network going down. And I like that here some of these members go unfinished and that FBI and other systems are protecting at least one of the perpetrators. But like Marty said, "we ain't gonna get em all. That ain't the kind of world this is." At least rust and Marty got their guy, and made things a bit better.

[@pabloc8808]

Them not taking down the entire ring fits the cosmic horror theme. This evil group is so big, so powerful, two washed up investigators could never hope to take them all down. Just like Lovecraftian protagonists only catch glimpses of the cosmos, and are unable to do anything with the knowledge because they can't even understand it.

[@SidPhoenix2211]

Rust 100% wanted to die after dealing with the killer. Def why he removed that machete (almost never a good idea to remove things you are impaled with!!). So I love the choice of the show to not give him what he wanted: death. And having to live through this... It just broadens his perspective and reminds him of the love that existed between him and his child. Such a beautiful story beat

[@barbastos]

Impaled, yes. But he wasn’t just impaled, he was also slashed leaving a big open wound. It doesn’t matter if he leaves it there or not. So no, definitely not the reason why he removed the knife.

[@gregfagan199]

It wasn't an accident that Rust looked like Jesus in his hospital bed. He literally died and was reborn. And now he sees the world in a different, more positive light. One of the best shows ever made.

[@Hexon66]

No, not an accident, but easily overly simplified and misconstrued. A writer uses contexts which the audience can understand, and this is one of the most iconic symbols. But the story transcends something as trifling as religion.

[@kurtlichtenstein2325]

Back in Childress' first scene mowing the lawn, the sign in the foreground says, "Closed until further notice... God is working...", and the camera pans right to cut out everything except "Notice King"

[@makerstudios5456]

There are dozens of these little things. But when Marty tells Rust “don’t ever change” in the hospital, it’s a reference to the “time is a flat circle” theme.

[@tobe1207]

Errol's actor is a hell of an actor. He's in a ton of shows and films. Remus enjoys his work too

[@charliemccluskey3629]

Remus is in agreement.

[@MadWithCat]

I think the smell Rust smells is his synesthesia. When the series starts on episode 1 he says the same thing. It refers to him knowing this place is familiar to the case and that it’s their killer.

[@edwinrollins142]

I think that this has got to on the list of some of the top seasons of television ever produced.

[@goldenageofdinosaurs7192]

Oh yeah, it’s on a very, very short list.

[@YoureMrLebowski]

22:34 i absolutely love the emotion you two allow us to see.

[@woeshaling6421]

the location of the last confrontation is an old river fort. built in civil war times.

[@HerrNilsson.]

thats cool, i've always wondered what that was while watching this

[@lianafelice5466]

I don't know if this has already beend said, but the story surrounding the cult side of it is referring to the book The King in Yellow. It's a collection of short stories that are actually about a play with that name, when people read any parts of the script they will go insane. Several of the stories start with pieces of the script, that include masks, darkness, and Carcosa. It was published in the 1800's and is referred as being the first horror novel; also said to be the inspiration of H.P. Lovecraft, and his style definitely reflects that.

[@YoonbeenPark]

The show draws you in with such a relatable depiction of pessimism and then hits you with genuine catharsis.

[@nati5088]

You guys gave this series one of if not the most intelligent reaction ive ever seen to it. You are both really good at catching the smaller details. Thank you so much for the quality entertainment!

[@nati5088]

Carcosa is likely the ruins of a revolutionary era naval fort which had been converted in to a pirate cove. The tuttles/childress’s began their macabre family traditions likely about 200 years before the events of the story. Their traditions derive from creole/hatian/african voodoo practices as well as traditions clearly related to ritualistic practices performed by southern cults such as the KKK, hence the pointy hats/ ritualistic meetings in the middle of the woods. Louisiana is famous for its macabre spiritualism and ritualistic/idolistic traditions.

[@vivek27789]

True.. Very True

[@user-vc5rp7nf8f]

such good writing, casting, directing, and acting. one of those rare shows (probably the only show imo) with the perfect harmony of all those things

[@Hexon66]

The only real problem was the stereotypical off-camera shot to finish off the villain just as he's delivering a deathblow to the partner. A really tired cliché unworthy of the standard the show had set to that point.

[@BattleMatt]

Childress was trying to free himself from the circle of rebirth and being stuck in the endless repitition. He thought killing would release him from being trapped in life after life.

[@YoureMrLebowski]

14:03 😬 😲 the anxiety! 😆 I love when Sarah does the home alone move.

[@clash5j]

Thanks for reacting to this amazing show. This first season remains some of the best TV I've ever seen. I feel the same as you two guys. To this day, I miss Rust and Marty, but I'm glad that they left it where they did

[@rrredc7]

Arguably the best tv series of all time.

[@Poss1]

Here you are! Outstanding! The finale is quite a roller-coaster, huh? Despair, terror, unexpected clarity with a tinge of optimism... It's a ride! Thanks for sharing this. Even when challenged by (a very few) things, True Detective S1 rises back to the top of my Favorites and Best list. Gotta watch now! Here we go! :)

[@Trepanation21]

I found your channel with this show's reaction, and it's been a really enjoyable run with you both. Thank you for sharing your experience of it with us! And I see your pinned comment about watching S2 and S3!!! That's wonderful! I'll try to tune into your Patreon for that journey! Thank you again for sharing, you two are lovely 💙

[@dextercool]

Season 2 was watchable (if Season 1 hadn't been so good - it might have got more praise). Season 3 is the second best after season 1 - a complex story with multiple timelines plus memory loss.

[@thetinker.15]

I had seen a lot of reactions to this show and I don't why but yours just got me which made me subscribe you and fallow you for this incredible journey Great job guys well done👏

[@mikeymike42]

Lighting in a bottle this series, marty ends up being both the guy that gets their suspect through tax records and the guy that has the 'a ha' moment despite taking notes and no drawings in his tiny notebook. Masterclass in writing, acting and show running

[@SidPhoenix2211]

That intro segment with that killer is straight up one of the most... Icky, uncomfortable things I've ever seen lol

[@Flooding474]

Something kind of dark but I feel like what we hear the killer saying to Rhust in the tunnels is what he would say to victims before he killed them. "Come in here little lamb" "Come inside little priest" "Come die with me little priest..." Great reaction to the series btw! It can be a hard show to digest/react to.

[@moehair98]

That was so good - I looked forward to this every week. Thank you, thank you!!

[@the_occasional1764]

There is so many amazing details in this show. For example the police commissioner (the asshole in blue uniform from the first and sixth episode) has a very specific way of walking, hunched forward hands behind his back. On the video with Marie Fontenot you can see, super brefly one of the masked figures take a couple steps in that same way... The attention to detail is honestly insane.

[@corvuslight]

" If you ask me, the light is winning..." -Rust, born again optimist. I concur, it's the only way forward.

[@patriciam6771]

The 10 years of life experience allowed both Rust and Marty to mature enough to have this new kind of relationship.

[@dankofanz]

The English accent was because there was an old British film on the television (think it may have been Cary Grant).

[@robert___t]

Pretty sure it was James Mason. I don't know which film though, but I recognize his voice from Kubrick's Lolita.

[@HerrNilsson.]

Rust breaking down at the end when talking about his daughter and then moments later showing optimism instead of pessimism for like the first time throughout the show, saying that light is winning, really hits me hard.

[@RaoulKunz1]

"Camilla: You, sir, should unmask. Stranger: Indeed? Cassilda: Indeed, it's time. We have all laid aside disguise but you. Stranger: I wear no mask. Camilla: (Terrified, aside to Cassilda.) No mask? No mask!" Also: "Strange is the night where black stars rise, And strange moons circle through the skies But stranger still is Lost Carcosa." Both in Robert W. Chambers' "the King in Yellow" published in 1895 Loved your reaction to the undoubtedly best couple of hours of TV. In other matters: When Rust recapitulates his NDE it sends shivers down my spine... back in 2008 I had one and it was.. very similar... it feels that someone must have written this who either had experienced this himself or had a first hand account. It is... right. In many ways it follows the pattern *I* experienced and not the cliché of "the tunnel" and so forth. it just *hits* for me.. it also hits *me* because... well. as I said, it sounds *real...* Best regards Raoul G. Kunz

[@HonkHonkler]

_"Once there was only dark. If you ask me, the light's winning."_

[@danielpopp1526]

Matthew McConaughey really put his heart and soul into this series. I'm so glad he's no longer known as just a pretty face. And the dynamic between him and Woody Harrelson is pure perfection. Add in the fact that both recently found out they're brothers (Matthew McConaugheys mom had an affair with Woody Harrelsons dad) in part explains how they worked so well together in this amazing series.

[@AleksandarIvanov69]

At the end, Rust finally began the grieving process he needed for more than 20 years

[@fen3184]

I just rewatched Season 2 and it's even better than I remembered it being. When you get to it, I'd recommend 'forgetting' it's True Detective, and just enjoy it for its amazing characters.

[@jameshurley9551]

Thanks for reviewing this show! Still the best season of a show I've ever seen.

[@lmarq5759]

That final note of optimism (or near-optimism) from Rust always gets me for some reason

[@onlyu2high]

This is the best "Lovecraft-ian" show i have watched.

[@KoalaParty2000]

Always makes me proud that this was shot by a fellow Aussie. From a town not far from me as well. Great job, Adam Arkapaw.

[@sidjhajharia92]

even the ending song is a masterpiece to wrap up the masterpiece of a season

[@user-uq4gr5nl5o]

I really wish you would upload the other seasons on KZbin aswell. I was really looking forward to that :(

[@kdizzle901]

The one thing that annoys me is that the new cops don’t even apologize to Rust

[@lizetteolsen3218]

That pile of clothes in the caves were from all of his former victims. tho only on screen a short time, he was one of the scariest 'bad' guys---no sci-fi or anything extraordinary--just evil hiding in plain sight.

[@TR13400]

I'm not sure about that "nothing extraordinary." The fact these uneducated inbred hermits are capable of pulling off and covering up this level of crime for so many years? I think it's open for speculation whether the people in this show are tapping into some deeper force or not. For one, Rusts visions which give him indications when he's on the right path, secondly all the deep psychological conditioning of anyone involved with the killers. It could just be brainwashing and secretly dosing with drugs. But none of this explains the huge portal that Rust sees in Carcosa. I took it as Carcosa was home to some kind of portal to hell or some other dimension which evil leaks through into this world.

[@lanestapp2]

I always liked to envision Marty and Rust leaving the hospital and just kind of becoming roommates together.

[@toothlezz16]

Yes, they didn't get them all. But the huge difference here is Ledux and others were replaceable. The final one is not. He was the one out of grid his family protected to do the deeds. He's family and not anyone can be trusted enough to be let in their inner circle. Without him, they don't have that ammo.

[@avipinckney]

24:39 so beautiful that it ends with a light polluted sky. Cause everyone knows that if you look at a black sky for long enough and give your eyes a chance to adjust to the darkness you begin to see stars you never saw before

[@werdle92]

"👀This is so weird.." Everyone watching it live in 2014 said the exact same thing.

[@AleksandarIvanov69]

Keep in mind the killer's line "Take off your mask", go back to that open church's sermon and you will realize something very disturbing

[@tobiaslundqvist.71]

Woody and Matthew are absolutely brilliant in this series! 🔥 If you want more of them together, there is an comedy called "Ed TV" where they actually play brothers!! Also a good movie, go check it out. They are always good together! 😊 Greetings from Sweden!

[@YoureMrLebowski]

i think Prisoners (2013) would be perfect for your detective minds. from the sam director of Sicario, Denis Villeneuve.

[@YoureMrLebowski]

6:07 "He wasn't kidding!" 😳😳😳😳 no he wasn't. 😆

[@Shawn-st2lx]

Imagine what that house would smell like? Especially when he makes flowers on her.

[@derekhurst9]

I’ve seen this show multiple times and just this time thought that Rust wanted to die pulling out that knife. Most know you shouldn’t remove impaled objects. His desire was for it “to be finished” right there.

[@JackOiswatching]

Just a masterpiece of television, an amazing season from start to finish. Really happy with your reactions to it, kudos!

[@Samstro]

Stoked to have come across your channel! Keep killing it.

[@613and802]

If you're looking for another great single season of a tv show, I recommend Fargo season 1.

[@dankofanz]

And 2

[@davidwilkins5932]

Great reaction to a truly great series. The only regrettable part is that it’s so perfect, that any follow up was destined to be lackluster in comparison. Seasons two and three were dissed by most people, but if either of them had been released BEFORE season one, they would have been highly regarded. That’s the great curse of a freshman classic.

[@evankhan1952]

Whoever said you laughed too much clearly doesn't understand how reaction channels work. Heaven forbid two individuals genuinely have a different reaction than what's expected from others...

[@gregflorez7891]

Such an amazing season of television, period.

[@redddawggg]

I know you are acknowledging that there are other seasons of other shows on your que. I’m glad to hear you’re going to be recording reactions to season two. Cause it is almost as good as this. I can’t even understand why folks be hating on season two? Is it because one of main characters is a strong woman? Is it too complicated for people to follow? Or what. Anyhow. I’m glad to hear you both are going to watch. I think you’ll very much agree, season two is pretty darn close to being as crazy and intense as season one is!!! Then hopefully, after watching a few episodes, you’ll feel better enthusiastic about loading some videos to KZbin?? 🤞🏾🤞🏾 Anyways.... season one was great. Happy to watch you two be watching True Detective!! Cohles philosophy is major genius level psychology!!! Whew!!! 🤘🏾

[@vulamnguyen9453]

True Detective SS1 and Fargo are best series ever. Can't stop re-watching them

[@YoureMrLebowski]

29:05 accountabilibuddies 😀

[@x3mslayer]

Unforgettable show, characters, concepts!

[@YoureMrLebowski]

24:26 "ohhh..." 😢

[@SidPhoenix2211]

17:00 Eric's gamer senses kicked in and it was correct!

[@330devans]

My favorite crime thriller series!!! Perfection.

[@thefilmeffect6089]

I’d recommend looking at more about the cult because I was wondering about the rest of them at the end too. The original cult is mostly gone and this version is basically an offshoot of the original. Errol went rogue and did his own version of the killings. There is a lot more to it and it’s fascinating backstory.

[@the_occasional1764]

Where did you look into it? Did the author do some interviews or something?

[@thefilmeffect6089]

@@the_occasional1764 I found a lot of backstory on the True Detective subreddit and they collected the information from articles, interviews, etc. They have detailed breakdowns on the info the show gives us. The show gives us a lot of backstory if you look at all the info dumps frame by frame.

[@dasx2gra]

btw, true detective was a magazine from the 40s to the early 70s i believe

[@jeffperdue2804]

I really hope yall do season three. I don't think any other reactors have done that season and I feel it's extremely underrated.

[@lumpyfishgravy]

15:50 The complex looks like a Napoleonic era fort. We have loads in Dover, England looking exactly like that. It could be earlier, I guess you might say colonial era. Confirmed - Fort Macomb built in 1822. Bang on.

[@RoboSteave]

Really enjoyed watching this with you guys, thanks! I guess I should say rewatching as I've watched the whole thing more than once and watched parts of it a lot. Loved your reactions and insights. I thought season 3 was good, although nowhere near as good as this. Didn't watch season 2. Of course the trouble with either season was trying to follow a masterpiece. Meanwhile, a season 4 is scheduled for sometime this year. It looks pretty promising, too. Being set during the 6 month long night of Alaska and having Jodi Foster, I'm most interested in seeing what they'll do with it. The trailer even briefly shows the spiral symbol that we know from this show. Will the Carcosa cult be involved? Anyway, thanks again. I really enjoyed it!

[@AaronGettler]

Hey guys. Good to see you thoroughly enjoying such a spectacular production. I HIGHLY recommend, for one of your upcoming reactions, the Netflix / German series 'Dark'. Three seasons of the best Sci-Fi rendering of time travel you've ever seen. Hope to see it on here one day.

[@YoureMrLebowski]

7:38 eric, the slight smile and nod 😏

[@demopem]

Season 2 isn't bad actually. It just pales in the light of this first season, but then again, what doesn't? It was an impossible task to follow up on this. The third is better than the second, but some think it's perhaps a bit too similar to this one. (But still not nearly as good, of course.)

[@wendydarling5790]

Well now we need that sequel where Marty and Rust get an apartment together. There's a great old play/movie called The Odd Couple where 2 opposite-type friends cohabitate and comedy ensues. This could be The Oddest Couple. 🤣

[@TheEndKing]

I keep looking at the Steve Austin shirt.

[@kanjoracer4914]

Highlight of my weekend!

[@KrazyCash]

Easily one of the best, if not the best, seasons of television ever made.

[@rayhutchinson640]

Another fantastic bunch of reactions to an outstanding series! I'm eager to watch y'all watch The Boys next. Granted, it's also sick and twisted, but I bet it will feel like comic relief compared to the dark horror/mystery of True Detective. Cheers!

[@christopherking4932]

Awesome reaction, love this show so much and thank you both for reacting to this unbelievable all great show.

[@Ghoulstille]

A partnership like theirs is almost like a Marriage, they fight and even hate each other but they will have each others back regardless of how much they claim they don't like each other. It would be cool to see them again in a new story and show some of the aftermath of this case but i doubt it'll happen as Nic Pizzolatto is not known for revisiting character's. The thing about Errol Childress was he was wanting what he called Final Ascension, a kill or be killed thing. He knew eventually someone would come for him that's why he kept calling Rust "Little Priest" He wasn't gonna let Rust & Marty kill him without a fight though and that was his way of reaching his Final Ascension. But when you're that crazy as he was it's not supposed to make much sense.

[@HonkHonkler]

_"Come die with me, little priest."_

[@YoureMrLebowski]

17:40 "let's go rust!"

[@dasx2gra]

hey guys i love watching this with you!!!!!!!

[@jamesrawl3648]

The following seasons had an impossible job of trying to better this

[@michaelescareno7048]

Another great reaction to one of the best series ever!! After having seen this series many times, one can only infer that although they caught 3 of the principles, it might have caused the people in power to back off of what they were doing now that all the media and law enforcement had received allegations of their involvement. That wasn't mentioned, but maybe one can hope..... Don't really recommend the other seasons. I do recommend The Haunting of Hill House!!!!!!

[@YoureMrLebowski]

14:25 "scary!"

[@topinjs]

Don’t be sad that it’s over, it’s one of those series that are very rewatchable and you can catch on some things. Also nice that for once they didn’t shit on Ohio😂

[@YoureMrLebowski]

14:46 "f*ck. that." 🚫⚠️