Trueing and finding Ballistic Coefficient with Scott Satterlee

In our 3rd and final installment of our reloading series with Scott Satterlee, Scott takes us through finding BC and trueing your round. Filmed through the Triggercam you can see exactly what Scott is seeing through the scope as he gathers data.
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[@user-md7iq3fy5k]

Great series. Loved the whole learning process. Especially BC and velocity tuning. True BC is different on every rifle. Great job. 👍

[@alexmook6786]

This was a masterpiece....thank you.

[@joshscorner6339]

Thanks to the Lily’s for all 3 videos with Scott S. Much appreciated.

[@longrangewiththelillys1221]

Thank you for watching!

[@nicholi2789]

Good stuff guys. Only thing I’d suggest is showing the display on the kestrel so guys who aren’t as familiar have some visual aid.

[@longrangewiththelillys1221]

Thanks for the feed back that’s a great point!

[@nicholi2789]

@@longrangewiththelillys1221 Absolutely. Really good stuff on your guys channel lately.

[@longrangewiththelillys1221]

Thanks! We’re enjoying the process and sharing our journey with you guys!

[@MrRanggong]

These videos are a huge learning tool. It allows me to learn along with you so thanks so much for doing them. Ive had a Kestrel Elite with AB for 5 years and have never taken the time to learn it. This vid makes me want to dive into it.

[@holdleftedgeandsendit9351]

these videos with Scott never get old. the info you Mike and Scott share is priceless

[@longrangewiththelillys1221]

Thank you!!

[@jv6509]

Great video...and I think this is the first time we've ever seen Mike's hair!

[@stephens208]

Thanks for the video, I know Scott can talk through stuff pretty quick but it would be really helpful to see what he is doing on the Kestrel and the why, like a step by step. Keep up the great videos I like learning new ways to load and shoot!

[@longrangewiththelillys1221]

Thanks for the feedback. We do that for the mover video!

[@metalsound74]

This is great info thank you for bringing it to us. Interesting to see Scott didn't treat that carbon barrel any different than I would a steel barrel.

[@edj9978]

Great channel and Great video. love how Scott makes things simple and easy. you guys do a great job of presenting Scott's information! Mike I get what you are saying, my Wife started shooting 2 years ago. I have been taking her to classes and different instructors I have worked with there is so much I have "relearned" or just taken in by her approach to things that I missed previously. It has been a great to step back and watch. Thank You.

[@robcadle3251]

Learning from Scott anytime is great but would really like to SEE what he is doing on the Kestrel as he is making the adjustments. Good stuff, thanks

[@longrangewiththelillys1221]

Thanks for the feedback we’ll work on that!

[@georgelza]

any change you can create a playlist out of these, starting from Brass prep, to final video... if I can ask, a 4th video. bringing everything together with a Magnetospeed/Labradar, Kestrel and a Ballistic solver

[@lapuafour]

great Job!!!

[@SgtDvldawg]

This series was Awesome. I am a new reloader and it helped me a ton!! I will be loading for hunting and local gas gun matches along with my wifey. Keep up the great work guys and Thank you! Semper Fi

[@ScottWeinand]

Great video again. Thanks

[@spysweeper]

Thank you!! That was a good series!!!

[@jeffguy3868]

Great video keep up the great content

[@aceprater5397]

Really dig your vids. I recently upped my tooling and making better ammo. I REALLY like the KM 4 deg champher tool with stop. I'm neck turning and annealing, and even inner neck honing. I was able to get ~8ES recently where my buddy with factory was getting ~50ES (6,5 CM). Very good info around truing the BC. Another tip that I have been known to use is to put the chrono up at 600 behind the sighter plate if its big enough and you trust your rounds enough.

[@aussiesteveakastevecallagh2280]

Great stuff Guys , Scott is a very good patient teacher I learned a lot from all 3 videos also thank you for your time Steve from Australia .

[@longrangewiththelillys1221]

Thanks for watching!

[@forgedtrue1]

Awesome videos! thanks for taking the time to do this and a huge thanks for Scott giving us some awesome Info!

[@stevenpope9304]

Wow, great series. Scott is a wealth of knowledge. We are very lucky to learn from him.

[@longrangewiththelillys1221]

Yes we are!

[@berniedeveaux7723]

Thanks

[@josh.precisionrifle8972]

Great little set of videos guys, well done for getting Scott involved, a lot of knowledge in those 3 episodes

[@longrangewiththelillys1221]

Thank you and thanks for watching

[@mikeriksheim1087]

These videos are awesome. Thank you so much for putting them together. Quick question though-- I assume that truing BC is not a set it and forget it thing. How often is it suggested to true up? Different conditions? Before a match? Thanks again for bring this to the KZbin world!

[@longrangewiththelillys1221]

Sometimes your BC will change lot to lot of bullets. Typically I reconfirm before every match. It is rare for me to change it after it’s set.

[@happyhome41]

This is really neat to see. Too much detail here to follow from just the video. Is there a written version of his method(s) we may access ?

[@longrangewiththelillys1221]

I’m not aware of one.

[@jbrumbaugh]

Is that Scott's actual competition rifle? I have not seen many carbon barrels on match rifles. Also, which Kestral is that?

[@longrangewiththelillys1221]

It’s his NRL Hunter rifle. It’s a competition with either a 12 or 16lb weight limit.

[@joshwoodward446]

Dang that Dana White can shoot ;) just fooling great videos guys. Keep it going!

[@snajjpern]

When you change the BC when truing is it the total or multi bc? Becsuse the BC changes with velocity if im correct?

[@longrangewiththelillys1221]

Total BC. Velocity is a separate Input in Applied ballistics.

[@jeffgadd2077]

Recap please. I don't understand. 1st seating starting at .030 to .060 so forth off lands up to .120 3 shot groups. Then ladder powder test at .2 gr difference 1 bullet each... At what seating depth? Why seating 1st and powder 2nd? Because case capacity changes w seating depth? Seems like seating depth at .030 or .020 intervals skips a lot? Please clarify. Thanks

[@longrangewiththelillys1221]

Jeff. Scott’s method is to do jump first. He finds his jump and then does his ladder. So his case capacity doesn’t change.

[@RangerCaptain11A]

on the kestrel to find aero jump, why not put wind at zero mph and the Left shift is your jump? example: at 600 yds, wind none, my windage is 0.69L. meaning i have to hold off 3/4 MOA only due to aero jump?

[@longrangewiththelillys1221]

Are you talking aerodynamic jump or spin drift? AJ is a vertical number. Spin drift is a windage number.

[@RangerCaptain11A]

@@longrangewiththelillys1221 wha . . ? that sideways movement is spin drift . . . so i can account for that with zero wind, then how much aero jump could there be at 600yds, for example, and is that already included in the kestrel come up amount?

[@longrangewiththelillys1221]

The kestrel accounts for aerojump. So go to 1000 yds. With a zero wind look at your elevation. Then put in a 9 o’clock 20mph wind at the same distance and look at your difference in elevation. You can also do this with a 3 o’clock winds. Play with it let me know what you come up with.

[@RangerCaptain11A]

@@longrangewiththelillys1221 1000yds, 20mph @9:00 E 32.5 15.75L 1000yds 0 wind E 31.25 1.25L so the spin drift @ 1000 yds is 1.25L and the aero jump is 1.25U?

[@longrangewiththelillys1221]

Sort of. This is a complicated subject. In my opinion the kestrel over estimates aero jump. But there are far better resources out there than us. But now you have an idea how aero jump works. Btw if you put in a 3 o’clock wind it will also be different but in the opposite direction. Hope this helps.

[@SnapD24]

So basically he's guessing what his BC is and confirming with the offset data he's getting with the kestrel?

[@longrangewiththelillys1221]

You can get a starting point from several places. Scott is pretty familiar with that bullet already.

[@cristtrevino7190]

Which kestrel is he using ?

[@longrangewiththelillys1221]

5700 elite

[@cristtrevino7190]

@@longrangewiththelillys1221 does it have the applied ballistics ?

[@longrangewiththelillys1221]

It does.

[@cristtrevino7190]

@@longrangewiththelillys1221 thank though for your quick response, and keep it up with the very informative videos. I follow 3 different persons and non of them have yet to put good quality informative videos like you guys .

[@howardschwartz1462]

What is the scope on Scott rifle?

[@longrangewiththelillys1221]

Scott runs Nightforce scopes on all his rifles.

[@howardschwartz1462]

@@longrangewiththelillys1221 could you please tell me the model and reticle he was using during your KZbin video it look fantastic

[@forcesolutions4154]

NX8 4-32 with Mil XT reticle.

[@jetthreat5000]

ohhhhh what stock is that?

[@longrangewiththelillys1221]

Scott currently has a grayboe stock on that rifle.

[@thelongshotproject7375]

It's a Grayboe Phoenix

[@charlesc6954]

Smaller poppers or danglers at distance? Changing T-posts sucks. Just sayin'

[@longrangewiththelillys1221]

Lol just don’t miss!

[@charlesc6954]

@@longrangewiththelillys1221 you should still be able to use a hardened target for reference, witness splash and measure for correction, right?

[@longrangewiththelillys1221]

That’s correct. Others will use a rock or something small at distance where you will get good feedback to get a really precise measurement.

[@charlesc6954]

@@longrangewiththelillys1221 I need to head back out to see Doug about trueing and proof a couple setups using these methods and print out the data