One of favorite new found channels.. having Scott on board helps of course.. the mans a genius
@beyondtwominutes3 жыл бұрын
Awesome info as always!recoil management has always got me leaning towards a heavy rifle even for calibers like the 6.5 creedmoor. A heavy rifle is almost always easier to mange recoil which can lead to maybe some bad habits to be developed I've seen that since I've been competiting in 22lr comps. I have to get rid of some habits thats come from shooting rimfire. Many people don't understand why you want a heavy rifle even for hunting. It's something they have to experience. When they do and see that they can spot their own impacts or misses especially with positional shooting they begin to understand the reasons. More often then not i dont have a spotter so I either have to film my shooting or be able to see my own bullet splash. Which is frustrating on the days where you make a bad call and end up chasing your impacts around the intended target.
@plebeianballistics72863 жыл бұрын
The fact that you said cartridge instead of caliber is very much appreciated.
@longrangewiththelillys12213 жыл бұрын
🥰🥰 it’s important!
@ktmkaratechips3 жыл бұрын
So annoying when they interchange those terms...
@tyj1234able8 ай бұрын
This bothers me more than it should .
@michaeljohnson60192 жыл бұрын
Hopeful information Kili. Thank you. First video I've seen on trying to manage recoil to see your splash.
@toddb9303 жыл бұрын
That's amazing how little the reticle moves when Scott shot.
@longrangewiththelillys12213 жыл бұрын
It really is! He has so much experience behind the rifle!
@ChemicalShots6 ай бұрын
It's cause he is holding ontop of the scope which reduces that change. Its also bad practice usually as can put you off target as your adding a new variable. Her grip on the gun was the better practice.
@jackdubois42083 жыл бұрын
So glad you guys made a youtube channel, it's a far better and more entertaining way to reach a larger audience than any blog or other means IMO. Great content as always.
@longrangewiththelillys12213 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@hrbricker3 жыл бұрын
A point I picked up from Kili, was about how one can slide away over time from what one knows or did in the past without really realizing it. A quick review with a mentor is like finding gold in the street. I'm a greenhorn in precision rifle, but fortunately for me, there are several posters on U-Tube that shoot in the 197-14X range that I can learn from.
@longrangewiththelillys12213 жыл бұрын
It happens to everybody! Thanks for watching!
@TheHybridHunter3073 жыл бұрын
I've been shooting a lot of rimfire and 223Rem over the spring and summer. When I started shooting 308 and bigger cartridges in preparation for hunting season I realized I was getting sloppy. That sloppiness was clearly evident under recoil. I had to revisit this video.
@edj99782 жыл бұрын
I love the trigger cam. Great Video!
@hogprobs52292 жыл бұрын
Seems like Scott is a normal good dude. Thanks for the demonstration. I love all the content he’s put out.
@hughtanner2083 жыл бұрын
grateful you do and share what you do
@stefanejonsson20443 жыл бұрын
I did notice the exact same thing you talk about when analyzing your performance afterwards... The camera doesn't lie. But you are spot on when you talk about how you thought your performance was vs how it actually was. In my opinion your wobble zone was very good on that shoot... far better than mine most times, but your recoil management was not good. The recoil management from Scott on that .375 is something i would be very happy with on 6 mm. It looks like a .22 in his hands. Your honesty and your approach will get you a very long way to a top top shooter Kili. You guys are doing awesome stuff on this channel. Thank you for the effort you are putting into this work.
@longrangewiththelillys12213 жыл бұрын
Thank you Stefan!!
@randallcullinan21063 жыл бұрын
I paid attention to the brake and got one that made a WHOLE lot of difference.
@fattigla3 жыл бұрын
Great information! You are doing an awesome job with presentation. I really enjoy your content!
@longrangewiththelillys12213 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@holdleftedgeandsendit93513 жыл бұрын
Awesome as always.
@elkbow3 жыл бұрын
Another good video. I like doing what Scott does, which is apply a light straight downward pressure to the top of the scope, especially with heavier recoiling, lighter weight guns.
@longrangewiththelillys12213 жыл бұрын
Thank you! And thanks for watching!
@newera3757 Жыл бұрын
Somehow this video was recommended to me. I like it. Produce more videos. Your new Subscriber.
@berniedeveaux77233 жыл бұрын
You guys are awesome. I really needed that. Thanks
@longrangewiththelillys12213 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!!
@henryhenry58973 жыл бұрын
Yah I have no problem tracing my 6.5 creed but my 300 Norma I have a lot more trouble intact I have to just shoot it more to master it as far as tracing go
@takurghar16212 жыл бұрын
Could you show more specific about what it means to connect to your collar bone?
@mattmaleyd.c.40472 жыл бұрын
Hi, loving the video, can you describe the gun butt placement more specifically? I’ve never heard of it being on the collar bone, and can’t find much on it, I want to try it but afraid my 300 win mag will kick the crud outta me with it. Thanks!
@longrangewiththelillys12212 жыл бұрын
The basic theory is the more midline or medial you can get the rifle the better recoil is mitigated. When you have it far out in your shoulder pocket there’s less mass to absorb the recoil. I’ve shot everything up to a .375 H&H that way.
@charlesmarais45823 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video. Interested in your opinions on role of muzzle brakes for recoil management. Here in South Africa we are fortunate regarding muzzle brakes as we are allowed fitting surpressor/muzzle brake combinations without any extra government paperwork.
@longrangewiththelillys12213 жыл бұрын
Muzzle brakes have a profound effect on recoil management. You are lucky if you can get suppressors without additional paperwork.
@troytownsend1730 Жыл бұрын
Great video. I tried the pressing scope down into bag with non -trigger hand and found it uncompromising, but as Abraham Lincon once said, "Discipline is recognizing what you want now and what you want more" So I guess I should give it a another go! So I am wondering was it your choice to not push scope down into bag, or did it just slip your mind?
@longrangewiththelillys1221 Жыл бұрын
We try not to push down on the scope. Some scopes believe it or not will deflect. If you do push down on the scope we recommend doing it on the rings or a ring mounted “diving board”
@frankfurr98653 жыл бұрын
What type of bipod do you recommend for long range shooting
@longrangewiththelillys12213 жыл бұрын
We’re big fans of the versatility of the MDT Ckyepod.
@frankfurr98653 жыл бұрын
@@longrangewiththelillys1221 Thanks I’ll check them out
@longrangewiththelillys12213 жыл бұрын
Also if you need a lower cost option , the Harris has worked well for many years
@frankfurr98653 жыл бұрын
@@longrangewiththelillys1221 Good deal it’s like they say buy once cry once thanks so much for your advice and for putting out the great informative videos
@mohamedayob9246 Жыл бұрын
Hey Do you guys still keep the rifle medial on the collar bone with larger calibers or move it out to the shoulder pocket
@longrangewiththelillys1221 Жыл бұрын
Always medial on the collar bone
@Spruce-Bug2 жыл бұрын
I want to see more about that .375 Ruger, is that a Howa Action?
@longrangewiththelillys12212 жыл бұрын
Defiance
@hnolsoe3 ай бұрын
For the ladies shot I would think that if the muzzle jumps that much of target sideways, the shooter is not square and properly connected to the stock of the rifle.
@bunsguns82223 жыл бұрын
You should have mentioned what brake was on each rifle.
@NowellGreasley3 жыл бұрын
Has Scott made the switch to a 6 Dasher yet? Seems to always be running the Creed.
@longrangewiththelillys12213 жыл бұрын
Scott is a tinkerer. He runs a lot of stuff!
@rdaugherty52 Жыл бұрын
My rifle in 375 Ruger was too light right at 7 lbs I shot it 5 times standing and it massacred my arm just got done adding weight to the fore end and weight in the stock as much as I could cram in there and it feels heavier but it’s only 8.5 now my AK 47 weighs 9 lbs so now I don’t know what else to do I guess I am going to be like a wuss and wear a recoil pad. Even the mussels in my neck got the crap jerked out of m the 375 is bad ass.
@goosecouple2 жыл бұрын
What is the weight of this rifle ?
@longrangewiththelillys12212 жыл бұрын
12lbs I believe
@politicallyinsensitive42002 жыл бұрын
Is that .375 in an Oryx?
@longrangewiththelillys12212 жыл бұрын
Yes it is
@pambornman8003 жыл бұрын
Hard to manage scotts 375 recoil as his rifle fit not so good for you, a shorter length of pull will get you more inline with the recoil if that makes sense,good show:-) cheers
@iamsomebodynobody3 жыл бұрын
It would be much better to remove the muzzle brake and use 308win to demonstrate how the recoil management was managed in terms of firing hand, supporting hand, shoulder position etc.
@hrbricker3 жыл бұрын
I'm 85 and I shoot an M1A, .308. It comes back 1.5" to 2" with 168gr bullets. My club has carpet covered benches and I have to use an elbow protector to keep from peeling the meat off my right elbow. I cringe at the thought of our WWII G.I.'s putting a couple of hundred rounds through a Garand during a fire fight. I also don't envy them the job of toting that thing around week in and week out.
@longrangewiththelillys12213 жыл бұрын
Ouch! Have you thought of switching to maybe a different rifle with a lighter recoiling caliber?
@toddb9303 жыл бұрын
I shoot off concrete benches and tear up my elbow. I now put a rag or towel under my elbow .
@Awesymoto Жыл бұрын
I'm going on a limb and saying 13.5-14.0 lb gun is not "light" but that recoil management was good with Scott shooting. Now do it unbraked ;)
@longrangewiththelillys1221 Жыл бұрын
I think light is a relative term that’s 100% reliant on your circumstances (and fitness) as for shooting a rifle like that unbraked? Why would you do that? Better ways exist.