Trump Guilty of Civil Fraud in New York

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[@arp711]

"Is this the end of the Trump empire?" From your lips to God's ears, sir.

[@osmosisjones4912]

The governor just admitted it's politically motivated and the Democrats are authorian Dictators

[@osmosisjones4912]

​@@arp711it's end of our free country. And ebd of New York

[@maxxhanley9006]

Trump should not be on this page

[@RDPendleton]

​Trump shouldn't be in society.

[@shannonlawhorn1674]

By their own sworn testimony the Trump family poses the worst collective memory this side of an NFL retirement home.

[@LoneWolf343]

Brutal.

[@Blasted2Oblivion]

That is the kind of dark humor I really enjoy.

[@Grim_Beard]

Brutal - but fair.

[@Death0Row]

Spot on😅

[@transsnack]

Dang, this one got a good chuckle out of me

[@tubruton]

It's just hard to believe. Trump scowled, gave irrelevant speeches, even insulted the judge and his staff but he lost anyway. Sad!

[@Toonrick12]

He did say he was sick of winning.

[@rashid8646]

While I personally believe this was politically motivated and that there are tons of fraudsters who need to get their day in court but aren't in the spotlight, I also think it's a good thing. Having a fraudster as president who uses their political clout in furtherance of fraud is unacceptable morally. Becoming a divisice political figure when you have so many skeletons in the closet that can be used against you is just fooling around and finding out.

[@blankityblankblank2321]

you forgot the all caps on "sad!"

[@kx7500]

@@mw66683no actually I wouldn’t. I especially wouldn’t make up lies about the judge

[@jasonmaclean719]

How would you feel if your fate was decided before the trial even began? Wouldn't you be pissed off as well?

[@worldofcardboard3203]

"It's a victimless crime!" Literally any prosecutor in America, "So there was a crime."

[@lonesavior]

"It's a victimless crime, like punching someone in the dark"

[@Klongu_Da_Bongu]

Then every realtor in America is done.

[@deus_ex_machina_]

​@@Klongu_Da_Bongu And? Is that a problem?

[@MrClickity]

"One of the greatest financial statements I have ever seen before" WTF does that even mean?

[@PiotrDzialak]

Yeah, I believe financial statements are not supposed to be "great". :)

[@jmhiss]

I think he may have used not quite the right word. Not so much greatest, more like grandiose (beyond realm of believability)

[@cookiecola5852]

Beautiful monies

[@cookiecola5852]

Business… Business! Business!!!

[@jmhiss]

as Trump is used to saying his books were tremendous, beyond doubt the best, cleanest most perfect, non-criminal books in history of all mankind.

[@linguotgr]

"No victim, no crime", the latest rallying cry from the people who brought us "not deporting non-violent illegal immigrants is an impeachable offence".

[@OrangeHand]

Sideshow Bob: "Attempted murder? What is that? Do they give out a Nobel Prize for attempted chemistry?!"

[@watchm4ker]

@@OrangeHand Actually.... Yes? There have been awards for theoretical papers and discoveries.

[@JamesSmith-uc8tk]

Nelson Muntz: "It's a victimless crime, like punching somebody in the dark." 😂

[@robertmiller9735]

The same people who want to keep "possessing 1/4 gram of weed" a serious crime, yeah.

[@arturoaguilar6002]

@@watchm4ker Sideshow Bob was ahead of its time...

[@jamesrule1338]

As a lawyer, would you advise your client not publicly call a judge who just found you guilty "crooked" ? Asking for a drug addicted senior citizen who keeps claiming he's a billionaire after declaring bankruptcy 5 times.

[@Toonrick12]

Only 5 times?

[@null6634]

To be fair, he doesn't listen to his lawyers. He also can't get good lawyers because he doesn't listen to them and doesn't pay his bills.

[@CharlieBrown20XD6]

​@@particle_wave7614the point is he sucks at everything he does and its sad that anyone looks up to that rapist

[@simoncohen9323]

His business declared bankruptcy not him theres a difference

[@miriamweller812]

As a normal slave, sure. In case of Trump, he has no need to fear obviously corrupt judges as that one. Of course in the end the whole US system is sheer corruption and rotten to the core anyway.

[@raineob4996]

I almost laughed out loud at the video of Trump saying his expert witness called the financial statement the “greatest ever”. My dude, only one person in the country talks like that.

[@Valyssi]

Trump really thinks he does some kind of jedi mind trick on everyone he interacts with. Not entirely unreasonable perhaps, the trick is called "bribery"

[@Russell_Crockett]

I can't watch Trump talk without seeing an invisible accordion in his hands....

[@neonskylite2242]

me when he does that dumb YMCA dance

[@BKKfreak]

*an invisible, TINY accordion.

[@jamesjarrait2231]

@@BKKfreakaww come on man. That squeezebox is YUGE.

[@chasethomas9238]

If it's invisible, how can you see it? O.o

[@alexturnbackthearmy1907]

@@chasethomas9238 Just a fellow Stand user, nothing out of ordinary.

[@atomichippy2]

If a regular citizen committed $20,000 of fraud they'd be in prison, but since it's a corporation they get fined. No justice.

[@Dragoonsoul7878]

Because you can't throw the entire corporation in prison. You would have to figure out who did it, as 99% of employees likely had 0 involvement, at which point the corporation is no longer at fault rather the individual. This is the advantage of working as a group, innocents become a shield.

[@looksirdroids9134]

@@Dragoonsoul7878 So throw the shareholders and executives in there.

[@KevinWarburton-tv2iy]

No, you can't imprison a Corporation ...but the State can/should seize it & its Assets and either sell the business/es to attain restitution or operate it & use profits to benefit the state/people ...to make Restitution. Forfeiture of Assets to value of Judgement should be matter of Course in these types of cases with a further Penalty of Punitive Damages.

[@elvispresley3340]

@@Dragoonsoul7878 Directors have a legal liability for certain unlawful acts - having a company does not 'shield' certain individuals from facing criminal prosecution - study the law before making uninformed comments please.

[@rtmpgt]

I mean if this was a small business they'd be under the same level of scrutiny. Only like, the top 5% of American companies get to pull this kinda bullcrap as they can afford to pay for the good accountants and consultants who know their way around tax law, and can also afford to pay lobbyists to make the laws to suit them.

[@MisterJackTheAttack]

"everyone does it!" Uhh, should we be investigating more people?

[@TheAsvarduilProject]

Maybe the New York real estate industry is deeply corrupt! Perhaps some audits are in order. I think we should fund the IRS!

[@timl9724]

Business is a negotiation. That's the literal point. Of course the finance cartels don't like negotiating, which is why they can push this kind of sham through a court of "law". When people say "everyone does it", that's what valuation is all about, a negotiation, which is not a crime. Of course, moronic socialists are easily manipulated into going along with the idea that everything has a fixed price. Thus the cartels manipulate socialists into their global scams. It's pathetic really.

[@stipebalenovic6497]

Ofc not. Just ones that say quiet political stuff out loud. Like "we got the oil" in Syria, and references to MIC wanting wars.

[@elizabethsohler6516]

Probably.

[@BogBilberryBagginsAGD]

You mean to tell me that an industry built around making basic necessities harder to obtain has a corruption problem? What will they think of next?@@TheAsvarduilProject

[@bipolarminddroppings]

15:46 Just stood there infront of cameras committing more fraud. If the properties are worth MORE than the court is claiming, and you made financial statements for tax purposes saying they were already UNDER the values the court is claiming, then your fraud is even LARGER. What an idiot, he doesn't even realise what he's saying...

[@zyeborm]

he knows what he is saying. Exactly what his broke supporters want to hear, that way they will send him more money.

[@IntegralKing]

IRS: so you're saying the properties are worth more? please go on. Pay no attention to the microphone and the scribe frantically writing what you're saying onto your next audit documentation

[@rwg6357]

Trump lies to give the impression he is in control of a given situation. Its mostly for his drones who will take him at his word. Like everyday Trump would claim he is winning the court case while complaining how the crooked court was out to get him.

[@blakksheep736]

Truly amazing.

[@twstdreality]

He has you in your head. He’s winning. Don’t let him

[@Vulcanerd]

"You don't begin with the number you want and then manipulate the assets to reach the valuation you're looking for." This is *exactly* the thought process that was behind him making the call to the Georgia SecState to find him 11780 votes.

[@tristanridley1601]

There is SOME flexibility in terms of valuations of most assets. But ... Once you do that you're stuck with it. Can't alternate them year by year, or report a lower number to taxes than potential creditors.

[@ccshredder9506]

Are you implying that you knew exactly what Trump was thinking and his exact intentions?

[@Vulcanerd]

@@ccshredder9506 I’m implying nothing. Trump wanted to win, so despite the reality he’d lost, he wanted those votes, regardless of what it took, legal or otherwise (and, in this case, there’s no “legal” way to overturn votes). So, he operated from a position of a number he wanted, then tried to force his will/desire through illegal means. I hope this clarifies his thoughts process.

[@ccshredder9506]

@Vulcanerd it doesn't. You didn't explain what he meant by "finding". Also, a recount could've been within the rightful ways of making sure as well.

[@Vulcanerd]

@@ccshredder9506 Have it your way. Obtuse gonna obtuse, I see.

[@ValkyrieTiara]

The thing I want to point out is that this family could sell all of their property at half market value and still see dozens, maybe hundreds of times more wealth in one go than most families see in multiple generations of lifetimes. And yet they're committing all these lies to try and get even more. Absolutely disgusting people.

[@Zalzany]

They still owe money on them so they can't actually do that he still has loans out so he sells them they gonna take back what he owes them, and he get far less so he can't be selling them for half value when he still owes cash on them sigh. That is the issue if he didn't lie on these loan applications he would paid so mucn interest on them he would have sold off more property then he has. He would have way less to his name. Its because these loans low interest rates that is doing ok but still got kicked off forbes list lol

[@MrTheAngryLlama]

The simple fact that each day this judgement accrues $87,500 in interest. That alone is more wealth than the vast majority of people see in a year, per day.

[@yeahitskimmel]

​​@@MrTheAngryLlamathat's an awesome fact I'm happy to learn today. The interest part, not the fact $87k is an unrealistically great salary expectation for a huge part of America

[@passerby4507]

What do you mean, disgusting? It's great cash, great buildings, great everything 😀

[@Bacteriophagebs]

American nobility. If you're born into it, you can never be removed from it. If you're hired into it, you can also never be removed from it. Look up any list of "worst CEOs of all time." The only person on those lists who didn't get hired as an executive for another company after running theirs into the ground is the one who died in prison: Bernie Madoff.

[@Froggsroxx]

Just remember, to a cult all forms of consequences are just proof that they are right

[@Blasted2Oblivion]

You see it a lot lately with sovcits but yes. It is very much cult ideology.

[@a_diamond]

Not to a cult leader it's not.. that's why they feel the need to wipe out the whole cult when they realize the con is nearing it end. That's why they don't usually go alone when they get desperate and start making coolaid..

[@arialash1113]

That's a wonderful take to all of this. Perfect comparison. My aunt is a brainwashed Trumper, and it is horrifying. She stills believes those 2 poor black lady's was really passing a USB port and that they were frauding the election. No matter what evidence, I or anyone else try to show her she won't listen.

[@krillin6]

Their delusions aren't relevant.

[@jasonmaclean719]

You mean like pelosi now claiming it's Russia all over again even though that was thoroughly debunked?

[@vigilantsycamore8750]

You know your trial hasn't gone well for you when the court records make fun of the arguments your defense used

[@lyndsaybrown8471]

Also, if you falsify your documents and an honest person does not; you would be more likely to get the loan than the honest person. Investors deserve to know who is truly more valuable.

[@negative7proxy]

No one said "This is one of the greatest financial statements I have ever witnessed before". Every time he says something like that, he's lying. Remember when he said the doctors couldn't believe how smart he was for passing a cognitive test? The test that shows if you have basic cognitive function.

[@TaliesinMyrddin]

It's astonishing that the only time I've ever heard of a person saying "this is the greatest X of all time" it's always Trump claiming someone said it about something regarding him. I've literally never heard the phrase used by anyone in any other context out of videogame opinions. The idea of some accountant saying it about some balance sheet they had to look at is as hilarious as it is frustrating people seem to believe him.

[@Wizz15]

Honestly: I would be surprised too that Trump passed a basic cognitive test. That’s a bit out-of-character for him.

[@kennynatalie4448]

@@TaliesinMyrddinsimilar to the ‘perfect phone call’

[@TaliesinMyrddin]

@@Wizz15 The fact he keeps calling the basic tests he's given "super hard" and other such superlatives speaks volumes.

[@AnonymousAnarchist2]

It is really important to always keep in mind, when the thing in question has a pass/fail where pass result is perfect and 90~99% of people are expected to pass then an astonishing result is a spectacular failure. That would be things like financal statements, Tax statements, cognitive tests, modern (medical) IQ tests etc.

[@MrSpookersMcGeeThe1st]

Can we appreciate the irony of Trump calling the judge crooked for calling Trump out on his blatant lying, cheating, and deceit? I’m pretty sure advocating for transparent documentation is the opposite of being crooked. Then again, it’s the only insult he seems to have at his disposal. I wonder if he’s projecting?

[@timl9724]

What lying is that?

[@michaelsnedker5446]

that is part of his formula, if he says someone is doing something wrong it is he who is doing whatever it is.

[@stephanreiken9912]

The judge pre-decided Trump was guilty before the trial and made judgements to that effect. That is very crooked.

[@theonethatcan7780]

The fact that he was trying to make libel laws more broader to be able to sue new media because "they were defaming him" makes your claim of projecting correctly made as the only thing he's done is defame everyone around him

[@thunderspark1536]

@@timl9724 About how much his properties were worth.

[@rollinlikebuer9059]

Mar-A-Lago is the most expensive property in the United States. The Department of Defense Documents hidden in the false wall by the breakfast nook alone are worth billions of dollars. Donald Jr.s stash of pure Chilean yayo add another five million to the property.

[@ScarlettCatte]

You had me in the first half, not gonna lie

[@1985wolfman]

Youre really going to talk about a presidents son doing coke… really?

[@rollinlikebuer9059]

@@1985wolfman There is enough coke for multiple president's sons.

[@davidtal523]

if the average person did a FRACTION of what trump did, they'd get decades in jail at the least. i hate that he's getting off so easily

[@slashkeyAI]

*cough* Biden *cough*

[@Iris_1217]

​@kosumdohchi7356 Oh yeah, let's review the key evidence in the Biden impeachment, shall we? What's that? The informant was arrested for lying? And admitted to being in contact with Russian intelligence? Shock! Horror! Anyway. All your whataboutism is doing is making the claim that both Trump and Biden should be investigated and potentially barred from the Presidency. You're not absolving Trump by trying to claim someone else is doing the same thing.

[@Glasstable2011]

@@slashkeyAI how much did Biden defraud the state of New York by?

[@davidtal523]

@@slashkeyAI as a high office politician yes, i'm sure he's corrupt as well. ive just no idea as in how.

[@PJam2019]

That says more about the "justice" system than it does Trump.

[@14rs2]

Anytime I hear Trump talking during his trial I just think to Shrek 2 with donkey and Shrek in jail…. Donkey: “Nobody told me you have the right to remain silent!! You’re supposed to say you have the right to remain silent!!” Shrek: “Donkey, you HAVE the right to remain silent. What you lack is the capacity”

[@ElectroDFW]

And that bit in Shrek was pretty much word for word taken from Ron White's stand-up routine.

[@SkroomJuice]

@@ElectroDFWare you Ron “‘TaterSalad” White? “You got me, you got the ‘tater”

[@dracos24]

The irony is that being silent doesn't invoke your right to remain silent, you actually have to speak to invoke your right to remain silent.

[@han090]

@@ElectroDFW It's not exactly so unique no one else could have thought of it independently....

[@shangri-la9458]

Lmao! That's some good writing right there!!

[@irtehmrepic]

A "perfect company" doesn't suddenly start losing money when a court-appointer overseer is appointed.

[@zubetp]

unless the court that appointed them is corrupt, and the overseer is also corrupt. we can't produce any logic or evidence that won't just be further evidence to his fans that he's being persecuted.

[@combatepistemologist8382]

His "brand value" is now negative. According to Business Insider, "Condominiums in Manhattan branded with the name of former President Donald Trump are selling for far less than buildings that have removed his branding."

[@Zalzany]

@@zubetp Yawn and the system is out to get him, and aliens are behind it all or something about floride sigh. How can overseer hurt him minus making him have to prove his financials? HE stopped filing fishy shit after she got appointed lol. She didn't force him to stop doing anything he was not stupid and went "oh shit we can't do that now!" And had to stop all the shady shit lol.

[@erikanders3343]

@@zubetp lol, no, if holding a company to ethical requirements under NY causes you to lose money the issue is the company.

[@Necroxion]

​@@erikanders3343he's saying that fans will make those excuses

[@Hawther]

IRS should be taking notes about every single person who defends this by saying "everyone cheats their financial statements"

[@tristanridley1601]

You get an audit. You get an audit. Everybody gets an audit!

[@dielaughing73]

Right???

[@AlejandroMendoza-kl7su]

Like the bald guy from shark tank

[@MadnessIncVP]

Lots of subpoenas to KZbin, to get names, on that one. Also, there’s a good chance they subpo people who aren’t Americans. That’s international trouble, waiting to happen. Also, remember that KZbin doesn’t have a single non-executive, who speaks competent English.

[@HOLDENPOPE]

Time for every citizen to go behind bars...

[@orgeuillealkali]

The far right really be out there saying stuff like “I guess it’s a crime to have friends” when being charged with conspiracy and fraud 😂

[@raro344]

Alt right defense of trump since last years is ether "they all corrupt" or "trump said some things, have some friend" and play stupid

[@jordanrodrigues1279]

It's like they say: you learn who your real friends are when you need to screw a bank - or undo an election.

[@erichvonmanstein2568]

Define far right boy. GO!

[@jlev1028]

​​@erichvonmanstein2568 Someone who believes that military might, corporations, and even majority ethnicity/skin color have more value than rights or democratic government.

[@ErebosGR]

@erichvonmanstein2568 Found the Nazi.

[@jensweeney4128]

I’m a property owner. If I tried this shit in my taxes, I’d be in jail. And my banks and insurance companies would dump me like a truly smelly pair of sneakers, with penalties

[@mercury13]

actually no the apraisal would say your wrong you would not be in jail and would not get the apraisal you wanted lmao thats it you dont decide the aprasal trump didnt decide it lmao why this is so absurd

[@KevinWarburton-tv2iy]

your house would be foreclosed or the state would seize your property. There's always been Law for the Poor ...and a Sliding Door for the Rich.

[@Melesniannon]

@@mercury13Right, that's why a judge tests Trump's case against the law and decides that Trump, who reported the values (so yes, he did decide those numbers), is guilty. Or as you'd put it, "acrtually no the apraisal wuz dun by trump lmao your wrong you would get fined lmao that it you dont decide you dont get fined lmao why this is so absurd"

[@mercury13]

@@Melesniannon no you cant do that i can say my car is worth 50,000 i can sell it for that uch you buy it its not fraud lmao you just got ripped off which most people do get ripped of daily in stors without comparing prices.. you sayig he id desnt make it so. the judge wouldnt allow the apraisers to testify it was summary judgement not a trial

[@Melesniannon]

@@mercury13 You clearly don't know anything about this. Ignoring the issue of thinking you can rip people off without legal consequences, you are not a bank. Are you capable of understanding that? Finance laws to secure loans aren't the same as a personal sale. Also I did not mention the word 'trial' but it in fact was a trial. They did that entire evidence and testimony spiel, you know, the thing that trials consist of. Want to know the best part? Defense council asked for summary judgment but it was denied. Remember whom they were representing? You get a gold star if you can mention the name of the defendant. Two gold stars if you can do it using a sentence that includes capital letters and punctuation.

[@davidhill2020]

Trump is like that mobster who tells someone to "take this guy out" and when he gets arrested for soliciting murder, he says, "I meant for ice cream!"

[@RyanGranger-nm7vx]

LOL 🤣

[@timl9724]

That sound like projection. I wonder what you might have to hide.

[@mikey-wl2jt]

​@@timl9724your mom doesn't like you

[@WoahitsWilly]

@@timl9724 I dont think you understand how projection works

[@AnonymousAnarchist2]

​@@timl9724He watched old Mob movies. Thats what he has to hide. Grow up

[@thomas316]

I can't believe that "everyone does it" didn't prove a good defence.

[@OsamaBinLooney]

it's showing the double standard many, many many other investors are doing the EXACT same thing but they are ONLY going after Trump for it if Trump was a democrat there is no way he'd be charged by the D.A. in New York

[@alexthewrecker4666]

​@@OsamaBinLooney🤥 Also like 95% of leftists would be perfectly happy to see everyone committing white collar crimes to be charged. Normal people don't worship politicians like you do. The GOP has been trying to indict Biden for years without evidence so it isn't like they are innocent and playing above board

[@thejuridicalbear147]

​@OsamaBinLooney You have to start somewhere. By your logic, we shouldn't prosecute any of them because someone would be the first.

[@OsamaBinLooney]

@@thejuridicalbear147 it's not about starting somewhere, he wasn't the first or last one to do it and they haven't charged or even TALKED about charging anyone else

[@Glasstable2011]

@@OsamaBinLooneyBernie Madoff was a Democrat donor. Sam Bankman-Fried donated millions to Joe Biden’s 2020 campaign. It’s almost like financial fraud is financial fraud, regardless of your political allegiance.

[@jimmymorgan9543]

I'm so frustrated by the Courts constantly refusing to break up harmful, corrupt companies because of the "harm it will do to workers and the economy". It just incentives companies to continue making profits through fraud.

[@malificusalbert]

As if the harm it does to the people who work at corrupt companies doesn't matter, companies who can get away with abusive behavior to employees and clients alike, let alone damaging other businesses and the entire law system by their flagrant disregard. All of that is irrelevant somehow.

[@kated3165]

@@malificusalbert Exactly! As if fraudulent companies typically pay their employees fair wages and don't partake in crummy business practices that harm mom and pop businesses!

[@popemorah7449]

Proverty is disturbing u that why u ave no sense jimmy

[@Pyro_punk]

@@popemorah7449 can’t take your argument seriously at all, not only can you not spell properly, But your saying something bad about roughly 75% of the population of America, may be less or more not entirely sure. Unless it’s of course sarcasm.

[@Shenaldrac]

Man imagine if everyone received a basic living wage from the government so that if companies were broken up or dissolved and people lost their jobs it wouldn't be a big deal because they'd still have enough to put food on the table and pay their mortgage/rent etc. That would be wild! Then the whole "it would hurt the workers and economy!" argument wouldn't have a leg to stand on! Too bad we can't have that because reasons.

[@janeharrison835]

Will Trump ever learn that "I reject reality and substitute my own!" doesn't hold up in court...? Place your bets...

[@TheAsvarduilProject]

Nope. He's a sociopath. He doesn't believe any reality but his own applies unless forced to.

[@elizabethsohler6516]

Why should he? It's still working for him He is still a probable Presidential nominee. In a rational world this COULD NOT be happening.

[@mattleathen445]

I think he knows it doesn’t work, but he also knows it might still work in our next election. And if the election works, he has the power to make court rulings go away…so it might still be able to overrule the courts.

[@zubetp]

@@elizabethsohler6516exactly! i've been saying this! why on earth would he ever question how he operates? it's only ever brought him exponential rewards.

[@wombatpandaa9774]

Absolutely not. He's too stubborn and too deranged to learn to behave at this point, at least not without being stripped of everything he owns. Which it looks like the courts are systematically doing, so I'd give it a .00001% chance of happening.

[@tvestal100]

"This is one of the greatest financial statements I've ever seen before" no accountant in the history of forever would say something like this.

[@ktksoccerstar5]

I laughed when he said that.

[@tvestal100]

@@ktksoccerstar5 I did too.

[@KazekanAgiel]

No *reasonable* accountant. ;)

[@henrygvidonas9573]

On today's edition of "Conversations That Only Happened In Donald Trump's head"... _It was a big accountant, strong accountant. A real accountant's accountant. He had tears in his eyes and called Trump "sir" when he came up to him. He had stood on a hill of paper and led other accountants into battle, many died of paper cuts, dropping like rejected fake business lunch receipts left and right - but Trump's financial statement was the bravest he had ever seen._

[@Jehty21]

Is it so hard to believe that a Trump fanboy would say something like that to Trump?

[@danieljob3184]

If you're from the insurance company, my home is a palatial 3 storey villa. If you are from the land rates collection office, it's a treehouse! 😎

[@JoeyP946]

and if you are a regular citizen, you'll be in jail by tomorrow xD

[@EarlHayward]

The fair market value of my home is three times the tax valuation. So, yeah, that is actually how it works!

[@cdorst2286]

I’d love to value my house at $20,000 for tax purposes and then value it at $500,000 to a bank to get loans.

[@SerErryk]

You can. That's perfectly fine. Do you think the bank will loan you based on your evaluations? Don't be an idiot.

[@jayson546]

This is what everyone here does not understand and this biased lawyer only argues one side of the case.

[@cdorst2286]

exactly my point, the rich can do what they want but the rest of us would never get away with it.@@SerErryk

[@joshuagarner1654]

Your tax evaluation is nowhere close to market value

[@cdorst2286]

I wish, my house is valued at about $400,000 and my tax is the same but we also get $100,000 off the top. so not sure if "nowhere close" is correct. @@joshuagarner1654

[@mikebronicki8264]

"If you have defrauded the state of New York for decades, you are going to need a good lawyer." Now, THERE is advice Donald could have used 6 months ago.

[@screamingcactus1753]

He can't get any good lawyers because no one with a reputation to protect will touch him with a ten foot pole

[@iamcarlosamaya]

Should have hired the Eagle Team 🦅

[@Zidbits]

And here I thought LegalEagle was an actor. You know, starred in A Quiet Place, The Office, Jack Ryan, and he's married to Emily Blunt... (joking, obviously)

[@bipolarminddroppings]

@@iamcarlosamaya I don't think the Eagle team takes on lost causes, or clients known to skip on their bills...

[@michalsoukup1021]

He had some good lawyers in this case, but ultimately there is only so much hand wawing and pollishing the turd you can do

[@AllOutBible]

I wish the government would seize the Old Post Office and turn it into a homeless shelter. It's so nicely decorated it'll be a great atmosphere to raise the spirits of the people they bring in. :)

[@angelfigueroa6825]

Trump only owned the Old Post Office for a couple of years.

[@stargazer7644]

Where have you been? Trump got out of the Old Post Office and sold the lease almost 2 years ago. It has been a Waldorf Astoria hotel since June 2022.

[@MilkieMouse]

This case is literally Trump telling different entities completely different evaluations of the same one property, many times. On purpose. He shouldn't qualify for another loan ever again.

[@GamerGrovyle]

Even a small loan of a million dollars?

[@alexthewrecker4666]

​@@GamerGrovylewell surely such a small and reasonable loan could be permitted ,😂

[@cedricappleby2006]

I really don't understand why people continue to work for him as lawyers, and why banks continue to give him loans. He's demonstrated, dozens of times, that he cannot be trusted with either of those things.

[@Anonymous-tj8xm]

@@cedricappleby2006Banks do business with him because they view it as profitable. If it wasn’t why would they? As for lawyers, should everyone not have adequate legal council?

[@thatjillgirl]

@@cedricappleby2006 The only lawyers left working with him these days are completely bonkers and hoping for their fifteen minutes of fame that they can spin into money.

[@ronco99]

You rarely hear about this kind of fraud, and penalties, because, when caught, most people cut a deal and pay up.

[@gund89123]

@@josephfrizzell6451 He is doing this intentionally. He knows that he won’t be paying this from his pocket, his supporters will donate money. He wants to use this to convince his supporters that he is the victim. And convince his supporters that “swamp” is doing everything they can to prevent him from running for president. That’s his plan. Trump speaks like a dumb person, but he knows how to play the game. I am not supporting him, but he knows how to play with emotions of his supporters.

[@ericeaton2386]

@@josephfrizzell6451 That's because he never really cared about winning the case. He's using it as part of his campaign, pitching himself to the rest of the country as the only honest person who can fight the corruption shown by the courts and current government. He's obviously lying, but with every case brought against him, he gets to play the victim card and polling in favor of him goes up. He knows exactly what he's doing.

[@rtmpgt]

You rarely hear about it because the media is in the pockets of the rich. CNN and Fox are on two sides of the same coin. Why do you think Bernie got absolutely smacked down by both news outlets? It's because his policies would've pushed the economy in favour of the worker to some degree

[@UserOfTheName]

​@@josephfrizzell6451 From a political standpoint Trump has to double and triple and quadruple down on this because if he admitted to the crimes hes committed even if it lessens to sentencing it would kill him politically. Thats why he still denies the SA hes committed no matter how many millions he pays

[@epoc162]

You rarely hear about it because it's rarely ever actually punished unless the city is effectively trying to use it as a weapon against the specific person which is exactly what happened

[@DarkFrozenDepths]

"For having built a perfect company" Despite the fact that you went bankrupt multiple times? A good businessman wouldn't have gone bankrupt ONCE. Yeah, did people forget that little gem of info?

[@MisakaMikotoDesu]

His casinos went bankrupt, not his real estate business.

[@DarkFrozenDepths]

@@MisakaMikotoDesu It's said that he himself declared bankruptcy before too... which is why he went to his father for that "small loan of a million dollars" before. But even still, having a business go bankrupt more than once doesn't look good.

[@SundayPancakeBreakfast]

You're just mad you're not a handsome billionaire businessman and President of the United States.

[@someonerandom9939]

​@@SundayPancakeBreakfasthe's not handsome, not going to be president ever again, and is at this moment scamming people like you by selling you cheap sneakers for $400 to get you to pay his fines. Some of you are throwing money at him with a gofundme even.

[@maxvolume72]

He's not president though ​@@SundayPancakeBreakfast

[@Felttipfuzzywuzzyflyguy]

You know justice is being served when he calls someone "crooked".

[@ElectroDFW]

Remember, every Republican accusation is actually a confession.

[@Zakuzelo]

@@ElectroDFW I really don't like generalized statements like this, but good lord, it just keeps being true.

[@alexthewrecker4666]

​@@Zakuzeloyeah it can lead to anti intellectualism but it definitely rings true in this case

[@WyvernYT]

We got nonstop "crooked Hillary" during 2016. He was projecting hard.

[@Aabergm]

I think I have worked out Trumps tell for when he is lying..... His lips are moving.

[@tokul76]

And hands moving would indicate blatant lies.

[@SapientGalaxy]

My favorite part of this whole thing is definitely all the other business mogels and millionaires going on TV everywhere being like, "Everyone does this. What? You don't want any business done in NY?" They just have been nonstop admitting that they all are crooks who think they can get away because they're elites and think threatening the investigators is a good idea. I do hope every last one of them are investigated.

[@reptoidrenaissance]

Me too, honestly. Might actually get rent down to a reasonable level for once.

[@simoncohen9323]

No the point is what trump did in his case was that it isn't illegal but because it was trump he is guilty hell the governor of New York admitted this

[@notgoodatthis6065]

On what, Fox Business? Most everybody looked at Trump's "defense" and went, "this is why we settle this shit". Normally people get busted for doing 10% inflation and deflation, which is arguable. Trump did 500% overvalue and 200% undervalue.

[@frostfrost8907]

@@simoncohen9323 ... That is not how it works. It is illegal. Hell, you even have the broken laws pointed out for you in this very same videos. If it wasn't illegal he can just appeal and maybe even get the judge expelled for it.

[@AnonymousAnarchist2]

​@@simoncohen9323Everything Trump did was illegal. Your tax filings have to match your investor reports, your assets have to physically be there and in the state you claimed them to be, your profits have to match your bank accounts. This is law in all 50 states and has been law long before the colonies won the war for independance. What is a miracle for Trump is that these laws no longer carry a corpral punishment, within my lifetime there where buisnessmen who face the death sentince for his behaviour. And dont even get me started on his over-leveraging of his assets. That man litterally took out so many loans against his properties in such short order that the banks could not default him because they would see an almost 100% loss. Thats how Trump became a "Billionare" he took out more then a billion in loans against properties that where not worth a hundred million. Thats beyond illegal. He's called Teflon Don because his fraud *USED* to be too large to prosicute. Now we have trade sactions against Russia where most of his bank debt is held.

[@paul16451]

It's scary how much people still support this man, with the gofundme already raising a million dollars to help pay the judgment against him.

[@simoncohen9323]

Maybe judges shouldn't say a 17 acre property is is worth 18 million when 2 acre land in the same area is going for 10 times that

[@LyritZian]

Is that the full extent of your argument? Because if so, you are missing a comically large amount of context. EDIT: I meant @simoncohen9323

[@GreenGorgeousness]

There is no context where this man should be supported. ​@@LyritZian

[@kameronjones7139]

​@@LyritZian 91 felonies

[@paul16451]

@@LyritZian what argument? I'm just stating a fact.

[@ZetaNiGHT]

Crazy how being a comedically raging narcissist makes you a bad witness in a trial all about your misdeeds. Who'd've thunk it.

[@alonvx2]

It is hilarious to me that the court officially wrote "... in what universe is..." it's like them just writing bitch pls or c'mon man be real

[@shadowldrago]

I think even the court is done with Trump's nonsense.

[@JoeyP946]

@@shadowldrago I think not it's probably just going to get worse and worse till we end like that movie idiocracy

[@TheJerbol]

'Great cash, great buildings, great everything' Another classic line for the vault

[@dielaughing73]

Words of a true business genius

[@Onattamato]

It always amazes me how he talks like a parody of himself. "Great financial statements, the best financial statements the world has ever seen" is something I would absolutely say if I was trying to parody him.

[@frankpinmtl]

"Everyone does it, so it's OK." Said every drug trafficker trying to get off...

[@Zalzany]

And every idiot with unpaid parking, and speeding tickets. Oh and every person at DUI hearing lol

[@pineconesnowstorm]

"A thief believes everybody steals."

[@Jartran72]

I actually don't think this excuse has even been used outside of white collar crime. Every drug trafficker knows they go in when they get caught.

[@frankpinmtl]

@@pineconesnowstorm That is a great comment. I'm stealing it.

[@ritzee13]

If he didn't run for presidency and get all that attention, I really doubt any of these civil liabilities would be revealed. Lots of rich criminals don't draw attention to them selves.

[@rileysmall4317]

Yep it's political persecution and he never committed fraud in the first place. That's what you get when you vote for authoritarian socialists.

[@dielaughing73]

Ttump has proven to be congenitally incapable of not drawing attention to himself and his crimes

[@ScarlettCatte]

Objectively incorrect. He committed fraud. @@rileysmall4317

[@godrickstockwell1505]

Smart criminals keep their mouth's shut and IF they get caught they force the courts to prove literally everything. This jackass is getting on live T.V bragging about how he should have done more

[@jackxiao9702]

Are you agreeing that this case is politically motivated?

[@JohnGardnerAlhadis]

_"in what universe is $200,000,000 immaterial?"_ Zimbabwe, lol.

[@EarlHayward]

Federal government spending!

[@JohnGardnerAlhadis]

@@EarlHayward "Just print more money".

[@downloadablecreature]

Okay, so, slightly irrelevant question- if Trump had to foreclose Trump Tower in order to pay off his debts, would Spirit Halloween be able to set up in there?

[@ianmiller6040]

That would be hilarious.

[@Gaia_BentosZX5]

I know it will absolutely send Matt Walsh and LibsofTikTok into a delicious indecisive frenzy since that's like Mount Olympus to those guys.@@ianmiller6040

[@jamesjarrait2231]

Please please. And they only sell Hillary or Dark Brandon costumes

[@zyeborm]

damn, that'd legit be a great haunted house though. Haunted with the spirit of democracy dead and gone.

[@CalmClamFam]

@@zyebormlol imagine if it was like a “Tower of Terror” vibe like that one ride at Disney

[@Grizabeebles]

Could you guys please do a video about the Alabama court ruling that embryos are children and some of the downstream effects this may have? For instance: -- Do embroys now have to be counted in the census? -- Do embryos frozen for more than 18 years now count toward population figures in electoral districts and the electoral college? -- Do embroys have to be accounted for in school funding? -- Do 21 year-old newborns have the right to drink alcohol? -- Can a pregnant woman in prison is Alabama now sue on behalf of the embryo for unlawful imprisonment? -- Can an extended power outage now cause the deaths of millions? -- Do embryos in Alabama now have to be stored ad infinitum if both parents die, or do they have a "reasonable exectation to be born"? The list is nearly endless.

[@SerErryk]

Opponents of slavery used to make a similar argument, saying we shouldn't do it because it poses a bunch of legal questions that seemed difficult to answer at the time. Remember the 3/5 clause?

[@Grizabeebles]

@@SerErryk -- Please do not assume I have a "change is bad" attitude. I am genuinely interested in the ripple effects this ruling could potentially have on Alabama and the 11th circuit. Overturning Roe v. Wade is forcing states like Alabama to actually have to provide concrete answers to real problems rather than rely on the crutch of simply being "against" the Federal laws. In a sense, they're finally joining the conversation.

[@SerErryk]

@@Grizabeebles You're correct, I was being an ass.

[@retrohipster1060]

What's wild to me is that this much evidence is needed to go to trial in the first place with Trump, but what's scary to me is that I still don't know that he's going to end up needing to pay any of this. Somehow or another, it feels like none of it will matter.

[@geoffok]

You are correct, none of it matters. It will get reversed in appeal, or there will be some trick where he pays 0.01% and the rest is forgiven. After that, he'll go on to get re-elected, despite his attempt to destroy US democracy.

[@Siaman668]

He payed his other charges. And this one is worse, the eyes looking at it kinda out power trump

[@beepbop6697]

His brainwashed followers will mortgage their trailers and give the money to "the billionaire".

[@QuartuvLarry]

@@Siaman668 Not by legally legitimate means. "Fraud" by it's definition has a victim. Who is the victim? And if truckers are private contractors, given this precedent, what legal reason do they lack for no longer wishing to do business with New York?

[@Siaman668]

@@QuartuvLarry my guy, you can’t just lie about your financials. He is very lucky he didn’t lose money during it. He’s investors we’re essentially being lied and actively lying about the worth of his businesses which you cannot do. These protects not just him but the people he ask money from. Now instead of being the number one trump fan, use your brain a little bit?

[@bigchungus6827]

No way, Trump's reckless ignorance of the law and his lawyers' incompetence caused him to lose another trial? Who could've seen this coming.

[@timl9724]

Show trials aren't meant to be won by the accused.

[@bigchungus6827]

@@timl9724 Define show trial.

[@BogBilberryBagginsAGD]

If it was a show trial, why did he receive the most lenient possible punishment?@@timl9724

[@mikedelhoo]

@@bigchungus6827 Show trial: where the facts show that the defendant is guilty, I guess

[@Jartran72]

Show trial? You must be one of his cultists. The facts showed he was guilty. He over valued when he wanted loans and undervalued for taxes, on the same property. But as always the law and order party would never trial one of their own, or corruption in other words.

[@LucyBean42]

Trump is the living embodiment of the "how many times do we need to teach you this lesson, old man!?" meme

[@timl9724]

You are the lesson that history keeps trying to teach, but you plug your ears, yelling "nah, nah" . Who are those old men to tell you about reality anyway? Eventually, your hubris comes back to bite you, and your warnings to the next goof will likewise fall on deaf ears.

[@Ericb1957]

@@timl9724 Ironic you talk about plugging ears when this is all public record. Trumps fraud here is all documented and argued out in nearly 200 pages of public court documents. Rationale and justification for where he has broken the law is given. Yet people will still jump in and, plugging their ears, say 'nah, nah, this is a conspiracy'

[@warlordofbritannia]

You can teach but you can’t force him to learn

[@DennisJayDole]

"Perfect company" 🤦🙄 Don, if it were so "perfect", why'd you inflate it for loans, and undervalue it for taxes? 🤔

[@jamescorrall6535]

I can't stop hearing "Judge Engoron" as "Judge Angron", which amuses me. For those who are not total nerds, "Angron" is in Warhammer 40k, the Primarch of the World Eaters Legion and Demon Prince of the Blood God Khorne. I'm getting the mental image of a large, angry, winged thing pummeling Trump into the ground with a mallet, and it makes me chuckle.

[@eattherich9215]

Engoron has eaten Trump's world. 😂😂😂

[@willumbermarchant5510]

'Justice? There is no justice, only Blood....'

[@erikbjelke4411]

Khorne looked at Trump, Trump looked at Khorne, and Khorne said "Dude, WTF is wrong with you?" Tzeentch shook his head and said "Even I can't follow this nonsense." Slaanesh just winced and shook his/her/its head. Nurgle gave him a hearty handshake a kiss on the cheek.

[@Klongu_Da_Bongu]

Considering Angrond is a traitor, I would rather side with Trump. In fact, Angron is a lot alike to all of you.

[@slitor]

@@Klongu_Da_Bongu Trump is the false corpse god!

[@TRE45ON.is.Bat5hit.Crazy.U.S.G]

Alina Habbanoclue should be Trump's lawyer for life! Thank you for all your help grabbing him by the wallet!

[@TheAsvarduilProject]

This. She might find beauty more important than smarts or general competence, but her idiocy when properly channeled could save us all!

[@davewilliams6172]

💯👍

[@rl95719]

"He's a smart businessman"

[@Ar1AnX1x]

I really love how the Trump people are so Law & Order but when it comes to Trump, Law & Order is not even an issue, this is literally what happens when you don't really have principles or values

[@RyanGranger-nm7vx]

YEP

[@timl9724]

You have no principles or values. And show trials are the opposite of law and order, a dangerous mockery.

[@stoptryingtomakemeusemynam7829]

@@timl9724 If it's a show trial then how did they prove that he broke the law by lying a boatload of times on his financial statements? Admit it, you just don't want your guy to be prosecuted for his crimes.

[@ahboaz]

​@@timl9724 what principles or values do you or Trump have? McCain, Romney, and even Bush had... but what do you and Trump have? Trump's impeachment trial at the senate was a show... Lindsey and others grilled him but voted for him as a show. Biden Impeachment inquiry was a show. Mayorkas' Impeachment was a show. Trump's trials? If they were a show please give at least ONE evidence proving they are a show. Otherwise I can definitely see that you have no principles or values.

[@LivingDeathGuy]

So according to the court numbers at 18:55 he defrauded enough money to pay my rent for 15,417 years, just to put it in perspective.

[@CharlesBallowe]

Isn't "there was no victim" the standard line for sovereign citizens when they get a speeding ticket?

[@Alan-jk1yi]

Many crimes do actually require a victim, this just happens to not be one of them. Although yes, that is a very common sovereign citizen line of reasoning.

[@michaelsnedker5446]

I think my favourite part is this Trumps Def: We didn't get caught so we are not guilty. Judge: That isn't how this this works.

[@uigrad]

More like: Trump def: We put our best estimates there, and the bank looked into it, and already decided it was fine. Bank: Yep, that's true, we had our own appraisal done before granting the loan. They paid back the loan, so it seems obvious it wasn't an intent to defraud. Judge: We don't need a victim here to say a crime was committed. That's not how this works. I hate you, and I have more power than you, so victims aren't needed.

[@jakepullman4914]

@@uigrad Which bank said that? Specifically.Also, did you catch that he paid back MUCH LESS than he would have if he'd been honest? That's called fraud. You know who's a victim if I calculate my taxes wrong? Literally nobody, but I still get penalized, because I have to obey the law.

[@greymatter77]

@@uigrad 100x the real value and 3x the size is the best estimate? What about not knowing what rights to a property he has, saying he has licenses he doesn't, not knowing what share of a property he controls, or pretending that other people's assets and money belong to him. Did you miss the part where he reversed engineered the numbers to get them where he wanted or the fact that his businesses were losing money? Seems relevant.

[@Zalzany]

@@uigrad Reality Judge goes: you looked into it? Corrupt banker: I mean we took his word for it, we didn't actually access any of his properties but this guys who knows Putin vouched for him when I took him in as his Private Wealth Banker so I knew he was good. I mean we never look into any my clients, its dangerous to... can we strike this from record?"

[@gund89123]

@@uigrad I get a speeding ticket, there was no accident, should I use Trump’s defense? No accident, no victim, no ticket. Can I use the same defense for DUI ?

[@PeterParker-df6ce]

Trump doesn't pay the people who work for him, and they're trying to help him. What makes anyone think Trump is going to pay this? EDIT: High hopes, low expectations. I'll accept Trump consequences when I actually see them.

[@tubruton]

The winners won't have to wait, hoping Trump pays the judgements - they will take his assets.

[@lauraprates8764]

well he has no option, if he don't pay he will lose his assets, that's why you can't escape taxes

[@tomsixsix]

Because if he doesn't, the state will be able to seize assets by force from him to pay for that judgement. Such as Trump Tower.

[@boredmonkee]

They’ll get paid in sneakers

[@erizfolkz31]

Yeah this isn't the same. He can't even appeal before putting the money up. Then if he doesn't appeal, or pay, they'll start selling his sh!t while he sleeps. 😂

[@bencoomer2000]

I get a feeling that the judge is counting on Trump and Co. doing their normal thing and making a complete dissolution inevitable. "We DID warn you..."

[@pills-]

7:50 So. If $200M isn't material, then paying $355M is actually like paying only $155M...

[@citywitt3202]

When the court wonders what universe you’re in, it’s best to check which universe you’re in.

[@user-yr3om5lx2y]

It's disgusting how such a scammer was allowed to be out of jail at all. He's been scamming since the 80's

[@elizabethsohler6516]

It's disgusting how he was elected to the Presidency, but that happened too.

[@victoriancu7358]

How is that different than what our government has been doing to us for the last 50 years?

[@elizabethsohler6516]

@@victoriancu7358 What difference does that make? Scamming is wrong period. And I don't believe our government does it as consistently as Trump.

[@godlygamer911]

@@victoriancu7358 What does this pseudo-intellectual nonsense even mean?

[@gilroyscopa]

@@victoriancu7358 Whataboutism. Two wrongs don't make a right

[@rissahoo]

I love this judge. I think he went about all this in a very smart way, including holding the business license hostage to gain compliance with other aspects of the judgment.

[@englishvoodoo676]

Literally anyone else would have lost the business licence & be in jail. 1 rule for rich, 1 rule for the rest of us

[@perturbedxtirade7428]

Literally, anyone else wouldn't be prosecuted for this. It's a dangerous precedent, which is why Kathy Hochul is telling real estate investors that they will not be prosecuted for this.

[@cpoller]

@@perturbedxtirade7428maybe, but i think most people would only fudge the numbers a little bit. Trumps differing amounts are insanely inflated for loans and deflated for Tax and are done over and over and over again to the point where it is obvious and blatant disregard for the rules/ laws. If you continually are pulled over for speeding, and at very high speeds, you will lose your license eventually, even though everyone speeds and some people get off with a warning if only going a little over. Plus, THIS MAN WAS PRESIDENT and is running again. Of course he will be scrutinized more than a normal person, as he should be.

[@ScarlettCatte]

He wasn't prosecuted for this. It's not a dangerous precedent, and it's not even a precedent. Most real estate investors aren't publicly and repeatedly defrauding the state. @@perturbedxtirade7428

[@jful]

Yes, very dangerous precedent to be punished for fraud. People might actually think it's against the law or something.

[@perturbedxtirade7428]

@jful you really believe that, huh? So, I guess the banks assessors were wrong?

[@haeuptlingaberja4927]

Most telling is that Creepy Daddy's #1 Girl had "no memory" of any criminality...until she was forcefully reminded of her own culpability.

[@demophys4883]

If you think of all four of them - dump, dump jr, eric the terminally stoopid, and ivanka, it's hard to think who'd win a race to the bottom. I think it would be a 4-way tie.

[@skeletonbuyingpealts7134]

@@demophys4883 I wonder if Jr and Hunter have the same dealer

[@TheModdedwarfare3]

​@@skeletonbuyingpealts7134let it go dude. NOBODY actually cares about Hunter

[@skeletonbuyingpealts7134]

@@TheModdedwarfare3 Why? It's hypocrisy. It's necessary to hate the government to be a patriot.

[@nolongerblocked6210]

​@@skeletonbuyingpealts7134 when Hunter gets hired to work in our government I'll give a crap about him.... until then he's no different than 1000s of current or former drug addicts in every city in the country

[@hitthegoat]

His excuse of “the loans were paid in full” is like stealing something, then returning it and claiming you can’t be charged with theft because you returned the item.

[@timl9724]

I would say that's the stupidest notion you've ever came up with, but somehow I doubt it. Where there's one moronic idea, thousands more likely have passed through.

[@mvicksdog]

@@timl9724you really have a problem with reality don’t you?

[@officialmonarchmusic]

“I didn’t steal anything! I was returning something I stole” 😂

[@evanwest4751]

​@timl9724 you're such a dork

[@extraterrestrialenby]

Sorta, but not quite, because his lies cost him a lot less interest than he would've otherwise paid. So it's more like he stole something, then returned a fraction of it. XD

[@ReneSchickbauer]

Doesn't matter how competent the Eagle team is, it's simply impossible to find a lawyer that can win a case for a client like Trump.

[@AustynSN]

The willingness of a lawyer to work for Trump is inversely proportional to their competency.

[@alexturnbackthearmy1907]

If only he could shut up for even one time to not ruin himself even further...

[@Gabryal77]

Having my favorite youtube lawyer actually start to get frustrated at 23:02 was such a shock. I can't imagine how discouraging a person like trump must be for the legal profession

[@Swatotastic]

The fact that he was not jailed is wild. No fine, immense or not, is a just sentence for decades of intentional defraudation.

[@wiiztec]

You don't get jailed without getting to present a defense at least not in america

[@dosadoodle]

This isn't even a fine. It is just repossessing ill-gotten gains. There is no financial penalty for the fraud.

[@Swatotastic]

@@wiiztec yes, but the trial is already over, he had all the time and opportunity to prove his innocence. Saying that "Your honor, I don't think so" is insufficient defense for this large of an allegation.

[@Swatotastic]

@@dosadoodle even worse tbh

[@wiiztec]

@@Swatotastic no his guilt was decided before the trial the trial was just about the amount he owed

[@kingace6186]

BOYS, WE'RE FINALLY DRAINING THE SWAMP!

[@livenandlove1980]

It baffles me that there are so many people out there who still trust this man.

[@azaril7780]

As the saying goes, don't weep for the stupid you'll be crying all day

[@Klongu_Da_Bongu]

@@azaril7780 I'll try not to shed tears over you then 😂

[@azaril7780]

@@Klongu_Da_Bongu damn bro, why you do me like that? 😂

[@theta799]

New York never banned Jeffrey Epstein from doing business in New York

[@theta799]

It baffles me that so many people still trust main stream media

[@chrones56]

The cognitive dissonance people are willing to pay over Trump's fraudulent behavior because of a persecution complex is the main reason why we need to keep going over this.

[@ashleighelizabeth5916]

Agreed.

[@jackxiao9702]

Oh it’s fraud. But it’s like the cops decided to always ticket specifically you for going over the speed limit, but give everyone else a pass up to 10 miles over.

[@kdog2646]

Or maybe stop two faced justice

[@grayoso1828]

For those who need to know, as someone in college for being an accountant, you DO NOT get to flub your valuations based on what looks best. When you get an asset, it has a set value. It goes up and down based on things like depreciation and money spent to improve it. As well, market value trumps all. If your books say your car is worth 40,000 but an appraiser says it's 25,000 when you sell, gotta record that loss.

[@anthonyschlott916]

I wish you luck 🙏 My college merged business administration and accounting. So even though I wanted accounting at that time I got both and stink at them now.

[@zyeborm]

Nah see you're only doing poor people accounting. Rich people accounting has at least 3 valuations. What you borrow against, what it's worth and what you tell the tax person it's worth. That's why right people accountants get paid more it's 3 times harder and you get to spend time on holidays at club fed.

[@CanadianEhHole]

The key part of your statement is "when you sell." Before that, what is the market value? Blue book is an estimation. They had 3 experts appraise the properties in this case. All 3 gave different values. The bank also appraised it themselves at the time because his report had a disclaimer stating his valuations might be off and to not RELY (key legal word) on them. So that's 4 different appraisals. And then judge even gave his own evaluation of the properties. For example, the lowest appraisal for Mar-A-Lago was about 18 million. The judge decided its value is 24 million. ... So this makes sense because... ??

[@zyeborm]

@@CanadianEhHole so you had 3 valuations giving a range. What value did Trump claim? Somewhere in that range? Double that range? More?

[@stargazer7644]

Actually held assets don't have set values. People have opinions of what that value might be. The more unique the asset is, the more this is true.

[@jeffm9770]

When he said the no victim no crime thing, he sounded like an idiot sovereign citizen arguing a traffic stop.

[@ScarlettCatte]

I just read that to the tune of Bob Marley's "No Woman, No Cry" XD

[@mandrid]

"Everyone does it" doesn't help you when you get pulled over for speeding, so it shouldn't help you when you commit fraud with your bank loan forms.

[@dr.bherrin]

Anytime someone says "best", "greatest", or any of those broad descriptors...I always ask them to define it. I have the "best" business sense. Define best. Most of the time, they can't. Why has no one ever asked Trump to define "greatest" and "perfect"?

[@TheMountainMan-wz8xf]

They probably have and then he just fires them.

[@AidanMillward]

Which is why every small business owner on LinkedIn is chatting shit. 🤣

[@MadnessIncVP]

Because they’d wind up in the river, by one of his January 6th lot.

[@jimbage2026]

Thanks as always for making sense of all the noise

[@jmccoomber1659]

I worked closely with Las Vegas resort owners and developers in upper management for a couple decades. The majority of these guys were just like Trump, grandiose and eager to overvalue EVERYTHING. They run casinos that handle hundreds of millions of dollars every week, they just don't live in the real world when it comes to "normal" thinking about cash and true value of real estate holdings. Trumplethinskin acts like every property he owns or controls has slot machines and table games spewing untraceable cash like in the old days of Las Vegas and Atlantic City. This guy managed to bankrupt a cash-rich casino by syphoning off the income and stiffing people as small as a piano seller, why are we surprised there's nothing close to the truth in his financial reports? He would have done better staying in Nevada, where there actually is ridiculous return on investment per square foot - especially when it's filled with $5 slot machines.

[@howilearned2stopworrying508]

have you ever seen the 1996 movie Mars Attacks? Jack Nicholson plays a Vegas Property Developer AND the President - as an allusion to Dr. Strangelove with Peter Sellers in multiple roles. reality tv

[@ashleighelizabeth5916]

Trump is so egregiously corrupt in his business practices that the Nevada Gaming Commission refused to give him a casino license for his property in Las Vegas. Think about that for a second, with all the corruption that goes on in Vegas the Gaming Commission look at his businesses and said NO THANKS we don't want any part of that! And many of the people defending Trump are using the childish defense that "everybody else does it". Which is probably true but most of them don't go on national TV and brag about it in interviews over and over again. Trump has made it so egregiously obvious that his business practices are fraudulent that to not punish him would appear to be corruption. He literally forced the legal system to go after him in order to maintain it's own appearance of legitimacy.

[@filipwolffs]

What's entertaining to me is that this case has reduced Trump's supporters to arguing that scamming people and organisations is entirely fine, it's their own fault if they fall for it. They might as well scream from the rooftops that you should never trust them, because they think that if they backstab you it's your own fault for letting them do it.

[@MrsNibbles1954]

Reduced? Nah, they were already that low of people and just continue to vocalize it. Victim blaming I’m certain in nothing new to them.

[@SirDistic]

what's really funny is that many of them were scammed by the Trump organization after he lost the election.

[@thatjillgirl]

I like how he is so unable to bring himself to admit that his net worth is less than what he has been claiming that he is even now insisting that everything is above board because he actually UNDERvalued his properties, which is still very illegal, because it just means that he lied to the tax collectors instead of the lenders. But heaven forbid he have to admit that he's actually not as wealthy has he's been having people believe.

[@voyagerrock1137]

I keep hearing "Judge Angron" and imagining they're the character from WH40K

[@AntonGermanReal]

trump in prison 2024

[@chrismanuel9768]

If this were anyone else, they'd be in shackles. He's still getting leniency and he's pretending there's a witch hunt. If it were a witch hunt, he'd already be in the river bed

[@ashleighelizabeth5916]

Ordinarily people who commit financial fraud don't just get fined they often get criminal charges for that fraud as well. I agree with your statement.

[@FlameAggron]

"I don't know how many times we have to keep doing this." Until the punishment fits the crime.

[@dielaughing73]

So, forever then

[@SaZa-ty1nk]

What a national treasure! After watching this video, every single rational Americans should have the same thought: LET'S MAKE THAT MAN OUR PRESIDENT!! 🇺🇲 USA! USA! USA! 🇺🇲

[@ScarlettCatte]

Not sure if sarcastic or stupid...

[@SaZa-ty1nk]

@@ScarlettCatte lol what a time to be alive

[@Anvilman]

​@@SaZa-ty1nkPoe's law is in full effect, unfortunately.

[@SirDistic]

Are you talking about Legal Eagle or Trump? Because if you're talking about Trump you need to be looked at by professionals.

[@andrewkeshan8649]

This is the first time I've seen you give a subjective take on something. You're losing credibility recently legal Eagle

[@ScarlettCatte]

This isn't a subjective take. This is a legal analysis...

[@jayarenneilson6049]

thank you for explaining and describing this so clearly. much appreciated.

[@daisyyang5833]

As a corporate CPA and former corporate auditor, the whole talk of financial statements cracks me up. Fun fact, a $200M misstatement COULD be “not material” in certain circumstances, but this is not one of them. The materiality threshold for fraud is $0, aka any amount of confirmed fraud is considered material to be reported to the board of directors in most circumstances.

[@ScarlettCatte]

I'd imagine a $200M misstatement on something like Apple's statements, that's a situation where it could be immaterial, right?

[@matohibiki]

16:10 HAHAHAHA! Aaahhh, you need to give your editor a bonus.

[@davidsolove9489]

I just wanted to tell what brilliant communicator you are!!

[@victotronics]

Thanks for the summary. What a bunch of crooks.

[@brianknittle6642]

Thia ia the kind of analysis and accuracy in reporting I wish we ciuld get from news outlets.

[@teebles]

16:10 LOL "The Bone Spur international" hilarious

[@MrElliotholman]

I love your channel, as British farmer I have no experience with any legal systems. However your balance between explaining legal complexities and still keeping your content approachable to layman and formulating a compelling narrative is fantastic. Keep up the good work.

[@HarvestStore]

I appreciate you and thank you for making content.

[@655deadlift]

Former HGTV star slapped with $10 million fine and jail time for real estate fraud. This just what Trump DID.

[@Lyonatan]

Don Jr. Doesn't even know who's the CFO of his own company...or if it has one at all...