Trying To Get Into Black Metal (My least favourite genre)

Black metal is one of the very few genres of music I cannot get into... but I want to learn to like it. I listen to bands like Mayhem, Dimmu Borgir, Deafheaven, Empeor, Behemoth and more to try to understand the genre through the music. Thank you for watching. Subscribe for more discussions and to discover new music.
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[@METALBIRB]

What’s a good black metal artist or song that I should check out knowing my taste in music?

[@peeweewallabowski7084]

Try Zeal & Ardor

[@dankewurst]

I suggest checking out Grima - Enisey (the song that got me into black metal) and Malist - Timeless Torch

[@uniservicemann3186]

Blackbraid - The River of Time Flows Through Me

[@jeremyhenshaw9313]

@@uniservicemann3186 Moss Covered Bones as well is decent. I'm with you Birb, cannot get into it.

[@uniservicemann3186]

@jeremyhenshaw9313 sometimes it's unexplainable how we fall in love with certain things, and that's ok😂🤷🏼‍♂️

[@_Mike.85]

I think for me what I like about Black Metal is the sense of a cold bleak atmosphere it gives...and the kinda repetitive nature of it is almost trance-like sometimes. But again, maybe this sound is just built into the European mindset more. I'm from the UK..cold, dreary, foggy and rainy all the time, so that definitely tracks..😂 It just gives a weirdly familial vibe.

[@juanchotpee2]

Exactly

[@symptomofsouls]

The ambient sound is less of a black metal thing and more of a scandinavian thing. You can see similar tendencies of repetitive, trance-like riffs in bands like Meshuggah, Vildjharta, Humanity's Last Breath and to a lesser extent bands like Soreption and Noumena. I'm not scandinavian but it's something I do notice. I live far north as well but where I live we don't have a metal scene

[@KossolaxtheForesworn]

@@symptomofsouls when its winter and the temperature is creeping above zero, it rains a little and the world is made of grey gravel filled slushie, and its dark obviously, its always dark. dark when you go to work, dark when you get home. its like you live in endless night.

[@RadicalizedRadical]

I’m from Greece and BM is my fav genre

[@elygr]

I'm from Brazil and BM is my favorite genre, but maybe you're right. Brazil BM is more oriented towards War black metal (becase of sarcofago), which is more ''in your face'' type of shit

[@PolishSausageEnthusiast]

To me, I like black metal mostly for the atmosphere and brutality of it. It sounds evil and mystical and I can paint a very vivid picture in my head when I listen to it. It’s heavy, while at the same time it’s raw and unfiltered which, to me, gives it a more “real” feeling to it. If that makes any sense.

[@danielogsemen7874]

Black metal is the most emotional genre. You can feel emotion through their vocals

[@dougodyssey50]

Heck, I could say the same about the Byrd's.

[@ThundraBoy666]

That would be screamo.

[@doom64chainsaw]

legit cant tell if this is satire or not

[@imonshrooms6866]

​@@doom64chainsawits not. Or i hold that opinion at least. No other music gets even close for me except maybe death grips. Its just so extremely raw. Although i would not recomend any of the Song He listened to, i dont get to much out of those other than freezing moons intro wich is amazing. I think people have a hard time taking time with music, yeah its long but feel the music.

[@Dieafreak]

I think -Hardcore and 80’s -early 00’s screamo aka skramz…real screamo not that mtv pop scene screamo/ emo wnd real emo from 80’s -90’s and emoviolence are Listen to Jerome’s Dream, and Rites of spring. There are def more bands out there though. Painful and hateful

[@VincenzodeLeon]

Makes me feel incredibly calm I'm not even joking

[@chrissyswifey]

real

[@bigbunn_]

Black metal is easily the most varied sub genre of metal

[@dangox3370]

yeah for sure. so many people including the guy who made this video seem to think it all follows the "traditional" black metal formula as established by Darkthrone/Mayhem/Burzum. But there's so much more to it than that.

[@a1m4thah3d]

I've been primarily a Black Metal fan since 1998 mainly because I can identify with it emotionally. If you take out all the blast beats, screaming, and tremolo picking you end up with depressing music. Add all the other stuff in and you get the anger. Anger and depression go hand in hand. Black Metal, for me, is just a sonic representation of what is going on with my mental state that could not be represented in any other way, if that makes sense. With having said all that, Black Metal is intentionally done so as to NOT become popular. Its like anti-music in a way. Or atleast it started out that way. These days its definitely changed. Euronymous probably rolled over in his grave when he saw the Black Metal themed KFC commercial.

[@METALBIRB]

I really appreciate your input man. Anti-music I can get behind too and why I don’t mind something like grindcore. I think it’s the depressing element that I have hard time with personally. I can appreciate it but it’s not something I would go out of my way to listen to since it doesn’t get me out of a depressive state but would just make it worse you know.

[@ckokomo808]

@metalbirb I find black metal for me helps to facilitate how I’m feeling. There are a few bands who are “depressive” and bring up those emotions but then add atmosphere and more positive emotions. This helps me try to find those positives in how I’m feeling in the moment. Not sure if that quote makes sense. An album that does this well for me is Der Weg einer Freheit’s Noktvrne. A recent song that does this for me is Gaerea’s Dormant. It’s an emotional song with a hopeful and cathartic climax- around 6:30.

[@EPKKC]

Im into BM since around the same years as you. You put words that i couldnt. I totally share your input.

[@cmillspa1]

@@METALBIRB If you liked the emotion in the Deafheaven track, an even better example of it would be Regret by Numenorean. Excellent track.

[@thewretch4081]

Vocals are not what black metal is about, that's the main thing to know imo

[@PsychoticAnarchist69]

I always explain it like most live performances are 80% about the music and the other 20% is presentation. For black metal its more of a solid 50/50. At least in my experience, and the bands I listen to, its about the atmosphere it creates.

[@Ballin4Vengeance]

Maybe if they were easier to ignore.

[@DeathBYDesign666]

​@@Ballin4VengeanceIf it was Anaal Nathrakh then it's half the appeal since their vocals are used akin to an instrument in their music. You'll find vocals of just about every range and style in their music.

[@heretic5116]

Black metal is for real men.

[@Osama_Bin_Ladder]

The vocals are bad tho. If it’s not about the vocals why even add them if they sound bad? It drags down the rest of the song.

[@egilskallagrimsson2941]

Stick with your Taylor-prog Swiftcore. This isn’t for you.

[@AshesOfThePast666]

I love you for this comment 😂 Long live black metal my brother!

[@FrankReacts]

Agreed. 🤣

[@mikepenny8940]

This guy probably doesn't even do death metal, he just seems like a total poseur and not even close to a real nerd

[@selkieun3269]

@@mikepenny8940 in some vids he just straight up shit talks.

[@GoattEight]

Right with you man lol he definitely isn't even into death metal

[@borishribljan]

Black Metal is a way of life! You have to live Black Metal to understand it!

[@zombiemachinery4868]

You can't create momentum by skipping parts of a song over a stream. I'm gonna give you some hope: The right moment for you to get into black metal hasn't arrived yet. Sometimes It's an acquired taste, like eating olives or drinking wine. Just don't force it.

[@taniaperez3660]

yes I felt the same watching him trying. And I thought: close your eyes, breathe deep in your belly and meditate on it to REALLY try. Its about the feelings, deep emotion and hypnotizing atmosphere more than thinking and understanding. To me.

[@donniehoffman4738]

Like watching a child try a single bite of a food for 1 seconds and spit it out Stick to your lucky charms

[@dedahed-qm2rm]

black metal for me is really about atmosphere more than anything. i enjoy it but its definitely an acquired taste. maybe you'd enjoy Portrayal of Guilt. they're like a blackened hardcore band

[@iamjatan]

I personally love all kinds of "extreme" music from Hardcore/Deathcore/Metalcore/Mathcore/Death Metal/Black Metal/Doom Metal/Power Metal/Prog Metal/Djent/Blackgaze/Thrash/Post-Metal etc. For me when I listen to Black Metal it just makes me want go and walk through the woods in the middle of winter with an axe in hand, being all grim. It's also great music for watching the chaos of a storm whilst naked.

[@Thenewbronzeagecollapse]

Black metal has many subgenres, I'm sure you're gonna find something that you'll like. I love black metal because it has a ritualistic, trance-like nature, and I like the philosophical lyrical content.

[@bentobarreirinhas5702]

The thing is you are not into metal, you are a nerdy hard rock guy and as such you should not try to get into black metal, its good you don't get it. I sugest you make abundant criticism and mockery of the metal you don't like.

[@enemyofthesun000]

I got into black metal through one of the most technical and dissonant bands in the genre: Deathspell Omega. Especially the album "Paracletus". It's black metal with more chaotic/proggy stractures, dissonant chords, some passages reminds me of mathcore if you're into that.

[@uniservicemann3186]

That is honestly hilarious how Deathspell was the one that did it for you😂 Mine was Darkthrone - Quintessence

[@sukulmati]

Deathspell Omega and other bands in that French wave were doing such weird and amazing stuff.

[@lethybridtheorygolucastheo2191]

For me discovering Evanescence, Linkin Park and their peers (Nu Metal and Gothic/Symphonic Metal like Korn, Slipknot, System Of A Down, Deftones, Type O Negative, Lacuna Coil, Nightwish, Within Temptation etc) which led me to Metalcore and Deathcore who I next discovered Lorna Shore made me discover Cradle of Filth which led me to Behemoth, Dimmu Borgir, Immortal, Tribulation, Omnium Gatherum etc.

[@KhayCeeh]

Sola Fide I is a fucking masterpiece!!! Perfect Songwriting

[@Nobody-zn3yv]

*triggers every black metal gatekeeper*

[@mitchfreeway1]

Gaera for example is fantastic. The grooves found in black metal can be amazing.

[@ScreamingInSong]

Gaerea - Conspiranoia is so damned good.

[@zombiemachinery4868]

Saw them live in my city. Absolute work of art.

[@Avarice21]

I'm seeing them Saturday! Can't wait.

[@karljonson3287]

Based recomendation

[@pykachu2912]

Gaerea has my favorite vocalist in the genre full stop

[@neonwitch1449]

>"im open minded and wanna get into it" >proceeds to skip and talk over EVERYTHING yea man, go back to your deathcore music with catchy pop choruses every 20 seconds. this is why we say -core genres aren't metal

[@euphoricbloodshed666]

100% agree. True Metal genres like Black Metal or Death Metal just aren't for everyone. They should just shut the f*ck up. Metalcore/Deathcore is just UTTER BULLSHIT and a disgrace to the true Metal scene imo

[@stevekelso8386]

Black metal rules and is life

[@terrencesk8]

I don’t like twink core I prefer death metal & black metal

[@spincycleproductions]

MGLA's albums Age of Excuse and Exercises in Futility are great albums without the typical screechy black metal vocals, Bathushka's first album is one of my favorites, Abigail Williams's latest albums, Harakiri for the Sky, Uada, Numenorean, those are my favorites I recommend

[@karljonson3287]

Based and exercisepilled

[@prototheist]

Ah yes, the “15 yr old fraught with angst” starter list These are decent bands that are also active but definitely not the starter list I’d recommend for Black Metal. You might as well throw Deafheaven in there. This isn’t music you need to immediately love within 10 seconds. The sound is often abrasive, unconventional, and unsettling. I’d start somebody new with Immortal - At the Heart of Winter, Limbonic Art - In Abhorrence Dementia, Sacramentum - Far away from the sun, Blut Aus Nord - Ultima Thulee, 1349 - Hellfire. If you don’t like any of those after a couple thorough listens, bm and its accoutrements are likely not for you… 💀

[@darachmeiklejohn1350]

In the Shadow of a Thousand Suns is a classic

[@coryleblanc]

black-metal goes mainstream with mgla

[@symptomofsouls]

@@prototheist felt that heavy jolt when I went from listening to "softer" metal bands like Gojira and then I randomly got introduced to Bleed on autoplay and my mind exploded. Now Meshuggah is my all-time favorite band. Sometimes you need to jump into the deep end

[@DrewFortune97]

14:29 😟

[@MRFLAPPYTREE]

😭😭😭

[@METALBIRB]

Cheer up bro

[@animyrch]

Point proven 😂

[@adisatanized]

Belphegor, behemoth, dissection, satyricon, shining, marduk, mayhem, burzum, dark funeral, darkthrone. I enjoy every one of em especially when wearing headset u could hear every instrument, tremolo, bass drum, snare drum, bass, absolutly it supported by their lyrics and video if there exist. Also the history of black metal itself. Hope you can enjoy it man.

[@waterball7141]

Check evilfeast elegies of stellar wind, probably on of the best black metal albums

[@pasza_dem]

I'm not a huge Black Metal fan, but i appreciate it sometimes, it has nice trance inducing quality. It's about mood, long cold evenings and rainy days, it puts you in trance or meditation:) I can recommend you some bands: Mgła, Kanonefiber, Ciemra, 1914, Batushka, Kreigsmaschine, Myrkur... All of those are enough to be called Black metal, although they sound pretty different from classic stuff for people to enjoy😅

[@semyonpimenov9239]

I got into post-black metal this year through White Ward. It has nice amount of riffy and proggy moments and A LOT of saxophone. By liking it, now I can appreciate more regular black metal stuff. Meabe you should try this way.

[@joshforeman1648]

Their latest album was incredible

[@StarsDie88]

White Ward is amazing.

[@symptomofsouls]

Agalloch is another good one to start with. or Opeth

[@user-zk6tg5zb2u]

I started listening to black metal with bands like Dark Funeral and Darkthrone, but at first i couldn't enjoy that music. I gave it a second chance, but I started listening to simphonic black metal like Dimmu Borgir and Cradle of Filth. That made me listen to nearly all black metal music, because I've got used to the vocals for example.

[@dougodyssey50]

Darkthrone is basically 2 guys with very definite ideas of what they want to hear. They start writing a song with just riffs and drums and then add other stuff. Even the drummer says it's pretty monotonous sounding. He's an awesome guy though. Very funny.

[@uniservicemann3186]

Actually my favorite genre. I love it because of the riffs, the melodicy of it and just how diverse it can sound. It makes me feel like going on a journey, but always (depending on who your listening to) theres this beautiful dark atmosphere underneath the raw mixes. Plus i love high pitch chord progressions. Once you get used to the mixes of a majority of the genre, theres so much diversity to the genre. Melodic black metal is my absolute favorite genre to listen to. Some of my favorite bands include Sarastus, Sargeist, Kvaen, Blackbraid, Mork, Winterfylleth, and Wormwitch. Not for everyone, so I applaud the curiousty, cheers Birb.🖤🤍

[@METALBIRB]

I want to hear what you’re hearing!! I’m seriously trying with an open mind man haha

[@uniservicemann3186]

​@METALBIRB Blackbraid is a recent breakout star in the genre. His latest record "Blackbraid II" is high quality production compared to lots in the modern scene. Always my recommendation for those looking for mixes of higher quality production. To put my personal imput on your remark about repetitive riffs: yes its there, black metal songs are define completely by the riffs. When you got a song with a nice melody, it never urks me personally when it is played a lot. Hell one of the most iconic black metal songs of all time Darkthrone - Transylvania Hunger is a 7 min track with 2 riffs, but when the riffs are just so good, it never taints the quality of the piece. It is very similar to how with a lot of metalcore and deathcore, there's many records where the only notes played are 0s. I love me some 0s, but I always need that retreat from it as well, and black metal and death metal are my retreats. Hope this gives you some more insights into the genre.🖤🤍 If you're thinking of doing a video, I recommend Blackbraid - The River of Time Flows Through Me. A piece from his previous record.

[@iceticketliongaming806]

My favorite is Atmospheric Black Metal, Wormwitch are a GOOD band tho! Also Wormwood too.

[@uniservicemann3186]

@@iceticketliongaming806 actually never listened to Wormwood yet....but now I have, loving what I'm hearing, thx for the recommendation 🖤🤍

[@kyllianharper2064]

Agreed Blackbraid and Wormwitch are both sick!

[@MykaTheDevil]

I would definitely recommend checking more from Behemoth! I don’t consider them a black metal band but blackened death metal! Their album The Satanist is a masterpiece! Also Abigail Williams is pretty sick too. However, I’m a deathcore, death metal, metalcore guy so I understand why most people don’t dig black metal in general.

[@kckc8464]

Yea i dont like black metal, but love death metal, but two black metal bands that grew on me is aara and non est deus/kanonenfieber

[@thecrypticstench]

Everyone’s giving him the wrong era of behemoth though, he should check out demigod-the evangelion era since he’s coming from deathcore and the like

[@MykaTheDevil]

@@thecrypticstench Demigod and The Apostasy are certified hood classics! I usually recommend The Satanist because I think it’s a great album for newbies to check out. It’s a lot more traditional sounding. Just my opinion!

[@thecrypticstench]

@@MykaTheDevil I’m in agreement with you on that, The Satanist is fantastic for newbies or black metal first fans (if that makes any sense). But for death metal/core fanatics, the mid 2000’s era of behemoth is untouchable. Cheers dude 🤘🏻

[@MykaTheDevil]

@@kckc8464 Have you ever listened to Der Weg einer Freiheit or Tryglav? Definitely 2 of my favorites! If you’re looking for some SICK blackened deathcore then Mental Cruelty is SOOOO GOOD!

[@aaalterrr]

You should give dsbm a try

[@motolove1708]

Dsbm is the Only BM I enjoy

[@kurtallen12]

I love black metal personally. I think your musical priorities, like what you seek in music just does not line up with that of black metal. I hated most of it for a long time myself, but slowly several different bands just began clicking with me and now it's only second to death metal for me.

[@johnjohn37371]

I will explain the best I can why I was attracted to black metal a bit in my younger days...back when I was twelve or thirteen, an actual satanic church opened up a town over from where I grew up. Now, my papaw was a Pentecostal preacher, so the taboo nature of what was happening over there fascinated me. The first night we snuck out and made our way over to spy on the church with their midnight satanic masses, it was like a haunted house, and black metal would have been the soundtrack. It absolutely captures the fear and anxiety I felt that night. Now, with a philosophy degree in pocket and thirty years if being an atheist under my belt, I still get that feeling when I hear old black metal. Thats the best I can explain...

[@METALBIRB]

That’s a damn cool way of explaining it. Super visual

[@lordnoiado]

These dudes in the church were probably goofy nerds listening to black metal and making weird noises. It’s even dumber than religious people

[@martyngregg2527]

Try with modern black metal if you enjoy Deafheaven; White Ward, Alcest, BlackBraid, Zeal & Ardor kind of stuff with avant/garde and proggy elements.

[@coryleblanc]

Hope Drone, Sadness, Show Me a Dinosaur,

[@TheDudeness123]

I saw a couple of times someone recommended Satyricon - King, you should listen to that, Satyricon is a very well known band and their first albums are pure black metal (which are awesome btw) but later on they switch to a more black n roll style and King is one of their most famous and accesible songs.

[@dougodyssey50]

I actually thought they were taking the piss out of black metal. They have a sense of humour that is quite odd but I do realise they are serious. At least they started out that way.

[@z0h33y]

The only remotely worth listening to Satyricon album is "Dark Medieval Times"

[@Siarawaszympanemjest]

No.

[@vincentrandall4299]

I know someone in the stream mentioned this, but Asunojokei is an amazing band. I would recommend the song "Chimera", since it has a faster pace than most black metal songs.

[@thelog7161]

White Ward's "False Light" album might be one to peruse - it's jazzy, proggy noir-ish black metal that pretty much sits in a league of it's own

[@Daniel-SpiritedAway]

As someone who really struggles to get into black metal I found myself liking a band that includes a lot post-rock elements into their songs. The band is called Harakiri for the Sky. They bridge post-rock with black metal really well and it sounds awesome. Especially the acoustic and chill parts are beautiful.

[@Megitsune69]

Harakiri for the sky is amazing.

[@Thenewbronzeagecollapse]

Harakiri For The Sky play blackened metalcore, not straight up black metal.

[@RibeiroGames12]

Post-black metal is the best. I think that it's the easiest blackened genre to get into black metal.. alcest, deafheaven, lantlos, oathbreaker, Agriculture, Downfall of Gaia are all 10/10

[@darktranquillitea939]

​@@RibeiroGames12I think Atmospheric/Folk/Black Metal is also perfect to get into the Genre, like Agalloch, Winterfylleth, Vermilia, Saor, Dämmerfarben... But yeah nothing against some good Post-Black. I might throw in Wiegedood as well (at least the first 3 Eps, "Theres Always Blood At The End Of The Road" is just fucking brutality

[@darktranquillitea939]

Harakiri are fantastic, they are really intense live 👌🏽 The vocalist also has a second project called Karg, which is also pretty good

[@toboosgaming602]

not gonna lie bhemoth is more blackened death metal than black metal

[@TheMrChugger]

I think you either 'get' black metal or you don't

[@modoki666]

Black Metal isn't for everyone.. i am a metalhead since early / mid 90's.. and discovered BM few years later.. that's by far my fave genre. Sure the vocals and production can be hard to get into at first but then it's something unique. Plus BM has so many subgenres to suit every emotions and mood.

[@chiefbrownfart]

I felt the same way for the longest time with black metal. Abigail Williams was the first band I liked in the genre and I've progressively just gotten more and more into it thanks to bands like Carach Angren and Mare Cognitum. Now I'm into a lot of more "traditional" black metal and I honestly never thought I'd see the day.

[@solarian_13]

I used to live with Ken when he was touring for vocals for Wolvhammer. Also a fantastic band.

[@nicop5306]

Black Metal is my favourite genre. It's the most transcending music by far. I recommend you bands liké : Fluisteraars, Ultha, White ward, Mgla, Midnight Odyssey, spectral wound, Moonlight Sorcery. BM sounds less raw, production and mixing get better.

[@PhoxyPoxy]

It always sound like black metal vocalists are screaming into a coffee can in some dude''s garage.

[@punkjay4681]

Any other really stupid stereotypical comments to show us how you don't know anything about the genre?

[@PhoxyPoxy]

@@punkjay4681 Respectively, papaw, explain to me why it sounds that way then. Explain how i'm wrong. Go on.

[@punkjay4681]

@@PhoxyPoxy all black metal vocalists don't sound the same, aren't recorded, mixed or mastered the same so your question makes no sense.

[@PhoxyPoxy]

I didn't ask a question you donut.@@punkjay4681

[@steve-0kandido779]

Some black metal is clean on vocals. Bornager, Arcturus, early In The Woods. I actually wish there were more bands with the sound sans the vocals.

[@rohitkolte6961]

Black metal requires hell lot of patience. You lack patience, you would never get into it. Moreover you kept talking the entire video instead of properly listening to it. Black metal demands patience and silence from it's listener. Add extreme introversion and isolation. You can't get into it, that's exactly what we want.

[@HeavyReign12]

The one Black Metal song I have always loved is "I Left This Life To Rot" by Suizid. Love everything about it, vocals are incredible and usually that's what turns me off from Black Metal.

[@davidtsang5424]

I would suggest what I consider 'entry level' bands and songs which I believe would help you get into the genre (either being less repetitive and/or vocals are less 'annoying'): Mgla - Exercises in Futility I Immortal - Withstand The Fall of Time Alcest - Écailles de lune - Part 2 Cradle of Filth - Cruelty Brought Thee Orchids Archgoat - Darkness Has Returned Dark Funeral - In My Dreams Taake - Myr Dissection - Where Dead Angel's lie Drudkh - His Twenty Fourth Spring Wolves In The Throne Room - Masters of Rain and Storm Djevel - I daudens dimme natt Satyricon - Mother North Watain - Devil's Blood Blackbraid - A Song of Death on Winds of Dawn

[@x88868]

Wolves in the throne room is more like emocore. Idk, I can hear any metal in their music.

[@davidtsang5424]

I think they are rooted in atmospheric black metal (influences from 2nd wave BM bands) but I appreciate that there are influences from other genres of music@@x88868

[@The_KlaVra]

For me do GAEREA, White Ward, Der Weg Einer Freinheit... ALL 3 AMAZING BANDS.

[@my1esd3an43]

Black metal on a rainy day is un-beatable. It took a while for me to get into the genre. I had a friend who absolutely loved it and would try to put me on but I couldn’t get a grasp on it. One night while I was on a drive home, I decided to just play some black metal. Coupled with the nighttime, gloomy atmosphere and cold riffs, it just transformed my world into Gotham or something. I felt like I was Batman driving thru Gotham. Once it clicked, I got obsessed with the genre and can find different ways to connect with it emotionally

[@BDeClue18]

Black metal can be very challenging to get into. Especially the first black metal bands. A lot of the recordings are very rough and not clean, but that was done on purpose. There are some very good bands in this genre. Just requires some trial and error. My old school favorite is Dimmu Borgir. Current favorites are Gaerea and Blackbraid. Not sure about Gaerea, but Blackbraid isn't satanic at all.

[@piermark8011]

They use religious symbols for blasphemy, not to actually worship Satan for most bands.

[@lunahemera6387]

I used to listen to black metal a lot. What I liked about it at the time was the atmosphere, almost hypnotic trem picked riffs and droning percussion underneath. Some of the songs you listend to here used to be ones that I listened to a lot as a teenager. Eventually I grew out of most of the banks however except for one that I'll always love. Should you ever feel like or have time for a long listen that mixes black metal with some progressive and folk elements, give Moonsorrow a try(Ruttolehto, for a song). It exemplifies the atmosphere for me while at the same time being very detailed.

[@Blaze-wb6bk]

Moonsorrow is sick

[@jockejezuz]

I grew up with black metal in the early 90's so the things you disslike, makes me feel super nostalgic :) As of right now, Im more into metalcore if Im honest. I listen to most genres of metal now depending on mood. Love the fact that you at least gave it a shot. A song you might wanna check out is from a band called "Mental Cruelty" and the song "Forgotten Kings" Its like black metal core? or blackend deathcore :D

[@5790cmc]

I went to see Cannibal Corpse, and Dark Funeral opened for them. I LOVED their live performance but I wouldn't have gave them a second listen if I ran across them on spotify. Still not a massive fan, but the atmosphere they created at the concert was superbly evil feeling and I appreciate it more now. Still not a massive fan of Black Metal, but when other genres adopt the atmosphere it gets me good.

[@Bobby14]

Idk if the fact that I don't understand the lyrics as a newbie should concern me or if I should leave it be and enjoy the nonsensical shrieks while being drunk...

[@disintegrate2491]

You need to check out more behemoth, not all of their songs have long intros. I can see you realistically getting into them. Also they’re not really purely black metal, they’re more blackened death metal, or black/death metal, I’d know you get into them, cuz I love ‘em, and I hate black metal to. Idk if I been living under a rock, but check out ov sulfur, they’re blackened deathcore

[@electricval2642]

The only question is : “Where is Burzum?”

[@evilone1079]

If you want some awesome black metal, give Wolves in the Throne Room a go!

[@QuestNation3221]

No they are crap!

[@LordDaymoon]

Lmfao

[@TheGr8Brit]

these guys are laughing at you, but pay no mind. I'm with ya. They are quality. It's an approachable black metal sound, which maybe isn't kvlt enough for some commenters. lol.

[@ScottyWiard]

To answer the question you asked about why we enjoy black metal: To me, black metal is the embodiment of the darkest parts of the human psyche. It’s cold, atmospheric, desolate. It’s a reflection of my own misanthrope, self hatred, and contempt for religion. Listening to and creating black metal helps me process my own dark thoughts. No other genre even comes close.

[@chillgaze]

I second the recommendation of MØL from the Deafheaven bit. Another band I would recommend is Celeste: French black metal with post-hardcore vibes. They sound a bit like Gojira but heavier.

[@kaspa791]

Celeste ❤

[@mleszzor6866]

Hey! I've been with black metal through the most important bits of my life! I've not watched this video completely yet, but I will comment on some early things. First. Black metal is a thing you will only get once something happens in your life, be it a negative experience (like a really negative one), or something else. I found my understanding of the genre through having been "dealt" very bad "cards" in my life, so to speak. I also listen to doom metal 😁 Black metal is like the opposite of nerdy. Nerds are often disliked in the scene, because being a nerd is also being too technical, while black metal focuses on the "soul" aspect of the music, being too technical is a disgraced thing in our community. The soul comes from the atmosphere and "realness" of the music (though the "realness" is more of an old thing in the genre). Black metal isn't really repetitive, but I see where you are coming from! It's rather like the music is on a landscape which it follows, it's also a journey, which is why it's so long-winded. The satanic stuff is a core part of the music, though you can willfully extract it! It's an important part to me, to be an opposer of Christianity as an organization. I could go on about that for a very long time, but that's not what I am here to tell. I found it very funny: the joke about "not even black metal fans can't tolerate the intro, so they skip ahead". I actually like the long-winded intro. I actually think that the skip is because an iconic part starts when the second riff starts. The other reason for it is because Freezing Moon is the most famous black metal song, so tons of outsiders come and listen to it (who are too impatient to listen to until the part starts, OR that they just wanna hear that part).

[@CandyOnAChopstick]

I used to be like you also until I found out black metal isn’t always repetitive screaming into a can. It can have great melody and atmosphere. Zeal & Ardor incorporates gospel and industrial; The Circle, post metal and goth; Blackbraid, Native American influences; Moonlight Sorcery, power metal riffs and solos. Don’t let the elitists tell you the good stuff doesn’t count lol. It’s all black metal.

[@Empus_king_of_the_damned]

Black metal for the feeling and zooming out and Deathcore for Power

[@monkeytiger2142]

If you wanna still try and get into black metal I would definitely check out Kardashev’s new album Liminal Rite. An absolute masterpiece tbh

[@bigbunn_]

Not really black metal at all. They themselves call it deathgaze

[@monkeytiger2142]

@@bigbunn_ I mean I’d definitely say there’s enough black metal sound in there to ease someone who’s not into genre into it a bit

[@andrewsullivan1467]

There’s 100% black metal influences in kardashev but I’d consider them more of a progressive death metal/core band

[@HobosRockEmTrashCans]

i feel like this is what deathcore sounds to people who don't listen to it

[@AnimetalViking]

If you are going to continue this black metal series, I would absolutely recommend the following bands and songs that might be up your alley: Cult Of Fire - Závěť Světu Batushka - Yektiniya III Inquisition - From Chaos They Came Anaal Nathrakh - Obscene As Cancer Carach Angren - When Crows Tick On Windows Aara - Sonne Der Nacht Elffor - Where The Damned Dwells

[@DeathBYDesign666]

You could have just straight up said "Anaal Nathrakh" and not included any specific songs. Any one will get him started down the right rabbit holes.

[@DeathBYDesign666]

And I would say both Yektiniya III and IV in sequence are essential to listen to for Batushka. One kinda leads into the other very nicely.

[@reabec10]

People like black metal the same way people like Sleep Token. No one should but what can you do

[@Mgla__]

Black metal is acquired taste. It's the most artistic style of extreme music. It's a way of thinking, for many a way of life. It's the most expressive form of extreme music. It's the most free and open minded genre, in a certain way. It is ignorant to imagine corpse painted guy in leather with satanic imagery when you hear words black metal. It's the most diverse genre but at the same time can be very exclusive, whatever contradictory that sounded. It is definitely not for everyone. And it is not meant to be, that might be one of the points of the genre.

[@GrossePutea5Dollards]

Exactly, Black Metal had at least 20 subgenres. You could be into a specific subgenres of bm without be into all bm subgenres. For exemple, just took myself im really into pagan black metal but not necessary into stuff like War Metal. Its impossible to not liking at least one subgenres of black metal.

[@shatteredstiks7392]

If you learned the history of Mayhem they aren't cheesy they were foreal

[@dreadiction]

Give some recommendation maybe more symphonic/melodic black bands

[@DjRenect]

It just hits a spot. Also a lot of nostalgia. Metal people always were the coolest people hanging out in my teens. I do tend to enjoy more of symphonic stuff like Dimmu Borgir, than the straight up underground bands. Although I do realize that mainstream and underground are highly relative terms, when it comes to Black Metal. But at the same time I’m happy to throw on some Sum 41.

[@leonpeterson6848]

LOL the idea of this guy sittin on the side of the black metal pool dippin his toes in to make sure it's not too cold has me dead.

[@ErebosTalia]

🤣🤣🤣

[@jerzmercer2657]

black metal is listenable in times when you feel hate, anger or depressed.

[@albroz6731]

Black metal is clearly not for you my friend, but you don't have to like it. You listen to black metal for the atmosphere, the mood that it creates or landscapes that the bands try to project. If you listen to core american metal all the time, it's going to be very difficult for you to like it because it's extremely different to what core-modern bands want to portrait.

[@punkjay4681]

"I like music thay doesn't make me feel depressed" - 1 minute earlier: "it sounds like he's in pain and a cry for help and that's why I'm connecting with it". Most black metal is very emotional and especially the vocals. You just have to actually listen to the songs. It's art, it's not supposed to be consumed in short bits for quick hype moments. And no, it isn't all satanic either. Next time, maybe actually try to enjoy the music instead of preparing yourself by stating everything you don't like about music you haven't even heard yet?

[@musicdudem6673]

Tbh a lot of black metal that I love falls into folk metal, most of it relates to nature, mountains, trees etc Dead heaven is a good representation of why I like black metal, there’s a lot of room for expression and expirementation Check out Agalloch, Caladan Brood, Gallowbraid, black metal vibes but with that Druidic flavor

[@ImmolationVenus666]

Black Metal is powerful for me, I love the blast beats, riffs, vocals and eerie atmosphere! Same with Death Metal, I love both and there definitely are emotions put into both

[@phantomvox951]

I love Black Metal from the brutality of Marduk to the glorious and catchy riffs of Taake.

[@StarsDie88]

I like black metal because the sound evokes feelings of chaos, nihilism, depression, screaming into a void and things of that sort. It's much much more of a "vibe" type of genre than most metal genres which tend to be about one-upmanship of musicianship and things of that sort. That early 2nd wave with the shitty production plays into those "vibes". It took me a long time to resonate with the sound of black metal. But I once heard a song by the band "Ancient Wisdom" that sounded nothing like what I thought black metal was about. And then soon after I discovered the band ColdWorld. And since those discoveries my tastes started expanding significantly for the genre.

[@romanandrusenko9489]

You should definitely go into Avantgarde/Progressive Black Metal. They usually have Black metal roots but grow outside the frames a lot. My favorite bands (and not only in BM, but in metal at all) are A Forest of Stars, Thy Catafalque, Arcturus, Vulture Industries, Enslaved. Closer to pure BM are Drapsnatt - such great melodies, you would be surprised.

[@Rob_Cary]

The happiest countries in the world are social democracies with good wages and more regulation in the workforce. Imagine my surprise lol

[@UlfhedinnNorsk]

“Do I look like a guy who likes black metal?”. No sir, you look like a dude who likes Drownjng Pool 😂

[@ErebosTalia]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@scruffy6911]

I don't understand how anybody could hate the intro to freezing moon.

[@mrgagarin4384]

Austere ,- just for moment, The Angel Process (🙏🏻) Dying In a minor An Autumn for Crippled children Gaerea Gallowbraid ,-ashen eidolon Imperium Dekadenz ,- transcendence Lantlos ,- lake Fantasy Midnight odyssey ,- when death comes crawling Totalselfhatred ,- total self hatred Year of no light ,-Gehenne Zyklon ,- an electric Manner Ihsahn,- stridig Depressed mode ,- a glimpse of tomorrow Chaos moon ,- the pillar , the fall, and the key ll

[@stuhlwippler]

His approach to listen to music is the same as one would have when watching a TikTok clip compilation.

[@albertrivera5443]

Kings of carnival creations- dimmu borgir

[@TooBadBro3921]

Your take on black metal is the same as my take on Lorna. It’s just blast beats like everybody else, dramatic strings in the background, and as many vocal gimmicks as you can stuff into it 🤣👎

[@jeremiahriojas3584]

The dude who recommended Dfhvn - Luna is a real one

[@twangybubblextr3560]

For me as someone that primarily listens to DSBM when it comes to black metal, I find the music helps as an outlet of emotion, especially with DSBM as it’s less of a song more of a feeling (I understand how pretentious that sounds). It helps me to almost visualise an process how I feel through music as an outlet for pain and trauma.

[@rubbeshh]

It’s very funny you would say you feel cringe listening to black metal and then praise metalcore in the same breathe, lmao

[@andrewlikesmetal1095]

The reason black metal sounds religious or churchy is because it is a perversion of what is pure. Like a ceremonial undoing of all that is holy. I like black metal because it personifies the disconnect I feel with contemporary society and life in general. Stylistically I enjoy how cold and harsh it is. I think production on a lot of bm can be bs and thats due to the amateur diy nature of early bm and people trying to emulate early first wave or second wave bm sound. Most bm is atmospheric, if you want something less repetitive try melodic or symphonic bm. Netherbird is a really good melodic bm band from sweden with good pacing and excellent riffs, they are a great representative of that style and definitely worth checking out. There are also many great genres like blackened thrash if you want something faster paced. Skeletonwitch is an excellent example.

[@nerdyoutube7847]

Maybe start with blackgaze? Feels like the cousin of ambient metalcore. The vocals tend to be more screamy and less goblin talky “I like blackgaze” Oh. Nice

[@madhomer321]

But I must also say that I also have a hard time finding an approach with the original Black Metal. It is mostly due to the rather "bad" production, with which I can do nothing. On the other hand, you can find many exciting and creative bands in "modern" Black Metal, which really bring a breath of fresh air into the genre. Often because they also bring many new influences into the music. Bands like Gaerea, BlackBraid, MØL, Sylvaine, Alcest, Deafheaven, Wolves in the Throne Room, Zeal & Ardor, Svalbard, Heretoir, Imperium Dekadenz, Wiegedood, Saor, Fluisteraars, Harakiri for the Sky, White Ward and many more. There's a lot of exciting stuff happening in the black metal genre right now.

[@mallus1313]

As a black metal fan, I enjoyed this video)

[@Sonareklipse]

Yo, try some symphonic black like Moonlight Sorcery - Horned Lord of the Thorned Castle. I had a similar feeling for Black Metal. The band that helped me break through the most was Blackbraid.

[@incubus5000]

black metal feels like you're in a sort of deep trance

[@ghostcat8244]

I been in and out of black metal stuff for years but my favorite genre I always come too is Melodic black metal. Just because it has beautiful instrumental sounds and it isn’t super super harsh raw that’s sometimes sound it’s being recorded in a toy music box.

[@Notinkham]

I think watching live performance is important when getting into new band or genre - you visually can follow what are the big hype parts and what are more low or mellow, slow. What got me is watching Mgła "Exercises in futility VI" live 2015 and Batushka - Yekteniya 3 videos with live footage and its easy to follow the constant melody while humming along. Also thanks to black metal I found one of my favourite bands ever - Rotting Christ, which is more melodic black metal I guess. Rotting Christ - Non Serviam (Mr EX Music Show) video is maybe a good example.

[@twb0109]

Mgła and Batushka are top tier

[@DoomedUser4]

I'm big black metal fan, and I have few examples of bands you would love. The first one is White Ward with their first album Futility Report. It's a mixture of black, post-black and jazz. For real my 10/10. Also for some beautiful melodies you could try Genune - Inert & Unerring. If you are new to the genre you should look mostly from sub-genres for the start like atmospheric black or post-black. It's really easier to get into through that than extreme dissonance black (tho Deathspell Omega and Panzerfaust are worth checking because of their pure amazing musicianship). Hope you would check some! There are some really beautiful stuff if you dig deep enough

[@Nicolas1909_]

>doesn't like black metal >praises djent, prog metal and metalcore You don't like (black) metal cuz the other genres listed are pop music with distortion. Maybe start listening to classic heavy, thrash and death metal from the 70s/80s/90s to learn the power of riffs and not just overproduced wankery!

[@Rogreedo]

As a metalcore guy that got into Black Metal relatively recently, I can say that Black Metal is the most interesting and varied genre in Metal. I understand that, in the surface level of it, it can seem cringey and over dramatic stuff, but when you actually find some Black Metal that you like, chances are that you'll end up looking for more. I started with Behemoth's Evangelion, Demigod and The Satanist, but the gateway definitely was Mgła's Exercises In Futility, that album is PERFECT to step into this genere because it's so honest and musically hooking and flavourful. From there, I found some of the most intriguing and interesting music that I've ever listened; like Oathbreaker's Rheia or Imperial Triumphant's stuff. I encourage you to keep looking, because it really worth it!

[@motolove1708]

The only Black Metal i enjoy is dsbm the Emotion it these aongs just hit different