Trying To Sort Out The Poor Running Tri-ang Hornby X04 Motor From The Maroon R.871 Coronation Loco

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Hello again, after a recent video featuring the Maroon Coronation, R.871 from Tri-ang Hornby I put the original motor from the loco to one side as it was drawing huge amounts of current and getting very warm. In this video I revisit the faulty X04 motor and see what I can do with it to return it to good running order. Thanks for looking, I look forward to your comments

[@adamharding4185]

Followed this to sort the X04 in my Britannia. Train runs very well now, thanks for the video. very helpful.

[@MrSnooze]

Thanks for letting me know, it's good to hear the video helped. Take care, all the best to you

[@johnbill9201]

Thanks for sharing, I'm having trouble with an X04 motor, this video will help me, hopefully a fix, J

[@MrSnooze]

Good luck! I hope you get yours running well. Take care, all the best to you

[@dl582]

If it’s been over oiled for a long time it’s also worth changing the isolating sleeve on the brush spring as they degrade with time and oil.

[@MrSnooze]

That's an interesting point you raise there. I've had a couple of motors where the brush mounting has deteriorated and cracked, so excess oil could be the reason. This one is still fine thankfully. When I change the mounting I always thread the motor and secure the new item with a little bolt as opposed to re riveting. Thanks for looking, all the best to you

[@premikyam2726]

Fantastic result Mr S. shows what the X.04 is capable of following maintenance in the right hands: silent and pulling 200mA

[@MrSnooze]

I was definitely pleased to see it was not drawing too much current, especially as I didn't remagnetise it. Thanks for watching. All the best to you

[@RobA500]

So all it needed was a bit of TLC, fantastic to see the locomotive running well and quite with its original motor.

[@MrSnooze]

I was really pleased the motor has been fixed, it's a nice smooth quiet X04, hopefully it will last now. Take care, best regards to you

[@andrewhead6267]

Very interesting and insightful. Your knowledge and skill demonstrated in the video, helps keep these motors in the hands of others performing.

[@MrSnooze]

Thanks for watching this, it's good to hear that the video is useful. Take care, all the best to you

[@martindaredare]

Another excellent and informative video, the deep clean and re soldering, worked a treat and a really impressive loco

[@MrSnooze]

Thanks for watching Martin, it is good to get this running with the original motor. Take care, all the best to you

[@1BCamden]

Absolutely wonderful outcome, great episode

[@MrSnooze]

I'm pleased you enjoyed seeing this repair, it did indeed turn out well, I was worried the armature might be toast. Thanks for looking, all the best to you

[@robinmathews2446]

It is so nice to see some proper servicing on a motor.. With such good results too? Thanks for sharing

[@MrSnooze]

Thanks for watching, I was pleased how this motor turned out. It's a nice runner now. All the best to you

[@petert9749]

Snooze, Enjoyed that, as usual. Perhaps worth replacing the brushes on the off-chance years of soaking in oil infiltrating their structure. If so the motor will soil quickly. Just wondering. Pete.

[@MrSnooze]

Hello Pete, that's an interesting point about the oil soaking into the carbon. I have not yet found brushes that once properly cleaned have given trouble, however it is something I will now look out for. All the best to you

[@shedhead00]

It's amazing what a service can do for performance on a 50 or 60 year old motor, I was guilty of over oiling in the past. Looking forward to seeing the wren 060 next week looks like it was made yesterday, all the best.

[@MrSnooze]

Thanks for looking, there is no doubt that too much oil can lead to trouble. Take care, all the best to you

[@OOElectronics]

Great improvement to the X04. The increased resistance must be down to the carbon contamination between the commutator segments being cleaned out and would have caused excess current draw as you were experiencing before. Nice neat soldering! Look forward to seeing 31337; I was given the Dublo 2 rail version of that last year from a loft clear out; it was in a terrible mess; a broken wire between winding and commutator was a devil to fix and I sacrificed a turn on the winding to sort it but it is now a great runner. A pleasure to watch this video as always. Best wishes.

[@MrSnooze]

That sounds like a great repair on that R1 armature, I have been lucky enough to fix an armature by that method, I don't think one turn will make a huge difference. Take care, all the best to you

[@monsvillerailways5736]

Nice work. A good clean is always nice to refresh these old motors. She really does run well now. My not so perfect R.871 version arrived last week and looks good running on the Series 3 layout. They look quite the Pair the R.864 and R.871 together. Lovely to see yours rejuvenated and back in tip top condition. Stay safe. Mon

[@MrSnooze]

I'm glad you're happy with your new item Mon, they do run well. Thanks for looking, all the best to you

[@monsvillerailways5736]

@@MrSnooze keep an eye out for a new Series 3 video 👍

[@hotdogpilot6319]

Superb, runs like a new engine.

[@MrSnooze]

Thanks for watching, It runs better than I thought it would, I'm glad you liked watching this. All the best to you

[@kenrobertson9048]

Great video, Could i please just ask what pins have you used in your point motors. They dont look original on the video and im looking for an alternative as i find the original ones a bit clumpy. Cheers

[@MrSnooze]

If you type this, '2mm Gold Bullet Connectors' into eBay you will see what I used. Thanks for watching, all the best to you

[@treblebass6721]

Great results there! I've re-soldered commutators on a couple of locomotive X04 motors. Although eventually successful I had difficulty getting the solder to stay on the copper. Took a few careful attempts! Did you use a flux paste? Leaded or unleaded solder? Thanks

[@MrSnooze]

It is a problem to solder these sometimes, I did use a pinprick of flux paste, it helps so much. All the best to you

[@hughoconnor9172]

If it had a short what would be the solution?

[@MrSnooze]

If there was a short, it would almost definitely mean an armature rewind. Thanks for looking at the video, best regards to you

[@JP-ig1qf]

Hi, just curious, by flattened off the carbons, do you mean you sanded the metal parts soldered to the brass flat? (Sorry, not familiar with proper lingo) Is it advisable for an older triang motor to have flattened these parts? A few of mine are really ground down into a "U" shape. Great video though :)

[@MrSnooze]

I just refaced the carbon part of the brush ( the black bit that rubs on the commutator ) you don't have to do it especially on very worn brushes but these were nearly new so it gives them a chance to bed in again nicely. Thanks for watching, all the the best to you