I Finally Watched The Moro Arc And It Blew Me Away

[@CarthusDojo]

I haven't watched this reaction but based on the comments I want to be clear. My videos are BOTH a summary and a soft-review. If you're looking for a straight summary with every single detail I'm not the guy for it because I don't seek to entirely replace the source material. My hope is that people can come to their own opinions and seek out the source material to learn more because I want the series to continue to grow as a manga as well. At the very least I hope you were able to enjoy it even if wasn't what you expected. Good luck with the content grind 💪💪💪

[@TSO_Sage]

Yeah spoilers: EYEEEE fw the reaction heavy 😂💯 so to catch you up, my chat & comments in my other manga vids was saying watch yours. I have no idea why once we started they switched up. Even near the end & post recording, I was like “chat y’all can’t suggest something & dunk on it the whole time for not including every miniscule detail” and tbh… we both know they was not tryna watch a 2-4hr reaction 💀 btw you one of the goats bro much love!! And my community thinks rage is a good transformation trust me you’re fine lmaoo

[@rd1890]

Aye, no hate to u Carthu, I defin understand your way of going over manga stuff. But Sage, I agree. It was weird how alot of em wanted Carthu but then started dissin it, like HUH? Didn't even know alot of them wanted Carthu, I thought it was a few or roughly divided

[@KidBuuKev]

hi carthu

[@CarthusDojo]

@@KidBuuKev yo :)

[@TheCoroboCorner]

how's it going carthu

[@theoverseer1775]

20:56 Carthu is actually wrong here. The Ginyu Force was on Yardrat before Freeza called them to Namek. If you recall, Goku escaped with Ginyu's ship by just clicking the "launch" button and having him sent to the first location inputted in the pod. This was because the Ginyu Force was supposed to conquer Yardrat before being called to Namek, and were going to go back once they were done with the dragon balls.

[@Ninox32tgretwh]

Yep, and even if you don't remember about the Ginyu's ship stuff, the sentence that appears in the manga panel is very easy to understand if you know the basic context of the story lol I don't know how Carthu got that wrong... It's like if Granolah said that the Saiyans caused quite a stir on his planet before Frieza killed them, and then thinking that he's referring that Frieza fought the Saiyans on Cereal (granolah's planet)... Now i'm not saying it's impossible to think that, but i'm saying is very dumb to think that if you KNOW the context of the stories lol

[@silly_pigeon]

I meannn Vegeta doesnt really misread his opponents, he just overestimates himself constantly lmao

[@TyzThePhoenix]

This

[@castform7]

Don't those two things go hand in hand. Like with Cell, him thinking he's strong enough to beat his Perfect form inherently coincides with misreading how much above him Cell was. Edit: I've seen most of the replies counteract my point and they're pretty fair. The two ideas do feel mutually exclusive and I may have chosen the wrong candidate of Perfect Cell. What I *do* think still holds up is that Piccolo saying "never" is still a massive stretch with my new point being his fight against 18. In this situation, he has gotten confirmation from Trunks that these are the 2 people that kill him in the future and Vegeta, still riding the high of being a Super Saiyan, doesn't even factor the Android's power as something he should be wary of. And then there's also his first fight with Goku but I won't even count that since Piccolo wasn't there for that but was there watching him getting washed by 18. Either way you spin it, the idea of Vegeta *never* misreading his opponent is just a dumb idea when it comes to Piccolo or the narrative as a whole. At least in my opinion.

[@davesenatus5566]

@@castform7 Technically though he was strong enough to destroy Cell with that blast. It was an excellent move for him to bait Cell into taking the full force of the attack and would have worked if Cell didn't block/dodge last second.

[@_WiZ420]

@@castform7 They don't go hand in hand as you could properly read your opponents' power and not realize that you aren't that strong. The thing wrong with this comment is that Vegeta has done both. He overestimated his own power on Earth and on Namek, and then started to consistently underestimate his opponents' power, such as misreading Cell's actual full power. Even if you argue that the power presented at the time wasn't a misread, he still DID misread his power. Cell later powered up in the tournament, revealing he was suppressed even upon the ascension into his Perfect Form. Most people will forget that small piece of dialogue because it was against SSJ2 Gohan who was entirely unfazed by the powerup. But everyone else was surprised, including Vegeta.

[@thecallywood]

tomato tamata

[@VileHusk]

My favorite arc personally, it has everything I love about the Z arcs all in one, it’s such a fan service saga imo

[@joseurbina3835]

It's more like going back to Basics of the Z Arcs, not Fan-Service (that's "Super Dragon Ball Heroes" thing)

[@earthtoastro8349]

Definitely agree. The mercy of Goku both cries cell saga and freeza saga respectively as well as for Vegeta mirroring himself on namek. Instead of killing innocents he's saving lives. Gohan getting more training in the box before the super hero fight, getting the actual Yardrat appearances, Yamcha getting his first good action panels since God knows how long. This arc DELIVERSSSSSS

[@youssafemonster]

fan service saga how

[@richborn6700]

​Going back to Namek, going back to Yardrat, Vegeta wearing a Goku alternate outfit, Moro essentially being Cell once he arrives on earth, Goku does the Gohan SSJ 2 with Ultra Instinct perfected, gives Moro a senzu bean before showing he's more powerful anyway. Side characters fighting the minions without being able to fight the main baddie. ​@@youssafemonster

[@Megatron6260]

I know this sounds really strange but to me this reminds me lord slug movie as well bc you know it’s about an old nemekian wanting to go back to his prime

[@notkingcedman7762]

One thing i wish Carthu showed was Whis blocking Moro's attack with one finger

[@firionkaiser8291]

I wish he would've shown the shockwave around the world from UI Goku's punch

[@lx5323]

@@firionkaiser8291he did mention that tho

[@firionkaiser8291]

@lx5323 Yeah but actually seeing the panels hits different. Especially since everyone on the lookout was flabbergasted by the shockwave.

[@thealien4863]

"Vegeta goes on a rant about not liking weird techniques for some reason" Carthu my dude its foreshadowing because this is literally the arc where he learns a bunch of weird techniques. Flew right over his head lmao.

[@arkkon2740]

Honestly it sounds kinda forced. It's like if Goku whined about not liking absorbed/donated power and then thats forshadowing for SSG, like just let it happen

[@AlexSummary]

You watching Justin’s Granolah arc has my vote.

[@MarioBusters]

have my vote too

[@omarabdelnasser5455]

@@MarioBusters has my vote Justin den all the way

[@richborn6700]

Justins Den is great. But the person he shares responsibilities with is a chore to listen to. The second half of the TOP video is unlistenable

[@anhillary9345]

My vote as well

[@usman16k]

Carthus missed out the explanation for Goku's susanoo/ki avatar: When Vegeta arrives on Yardrat, the Yardraxians demonstrate instant transmission, cloning (without loss of power, not the multi form) and *gigantification*. It is then specified that perfect spirit (ki) control, which can be interpreted as a perfect link between mind and body, can allow for one to hone such techniques. Ultra Instinct is by nature the perfect link between mind and body, perfect spirit/ki control. Goku creating a ki avatar out of desperation is because his mind and his body both instinctively willed for Moro to be held down. Not to mention that Goku may have knowledge of the technique from his time on Yardrat.

[@nicholas2153]

The thing about Ki in general is it has very little limitations and is extraordinarily flexible. Just the amount of Ki you have and your creativity, It's why Dragon Fist (despite not being canon) is even possible. I'd imagine with UI you have plenty of Ki to do something like this.

[@BrotherSam2010]

Did you just mix avatar and naruto into this explanation?!?

[@_WiZ420]

@@BrotherSam2010 To be honest with you, almost every fiction is rewording the same explanations to describe energy in the way they want.

[@BrotherSam2010]

@@_WiZ420 i mean at the end of the day ki and chakra is energy

[@Amplifymagic]

well explained, yes Ki Avatar is such a goated ultimate ability

[@PrinxeGaming_]

to answer the Moro stuff with the dragon balls, both the scouters and dragon radar picked up the dragon balls bc of the rare energy they were emitting so Moro being able to sense the dragon balls after not only eating the planet’s energy but also Kakarot and Vegeta’s energy makes sense especially since earlier in the manga he said he couldn’t do certain magic bc he was too old

[@ryern6350]

Scouters actually couldn't pick up the dragon balls, that was a whole plot point in the namek arc

[@hexit7777]

@@ryern6350those were old scouters…

[@nicholas2153]

Well, not the Scouters they have only ever been used to detect KI, not the unique energy that comes from the Dragon Ball. That's why Freeza was using the Scouter to track the Namekians in the Namek arc and not the Dragon Balls themselves. However, there is some plausibility in thinking that Moro, a being very proficient in magic could detect them since they are magical in nature.

[@mythosinfinite6736]

​@@ryern6350 Technology is a medium that is well-known to never develop. Especially after new and important discoveries, such as Dragon Balls and Dragon Ball radars, are made.

[@ryern6350]

@@mythosinfinite6736 the scouters still couldn't pick up the dragon balls in the Moro arc. In every point of the story involving scouters and dragon balls we have been clearly shown that scouters can't pick up dragon balls.

[@STGAoe]

Carthu also nitpicked how Goku never learned Forced Spirit Fission back then but Goku literally says when he shows up on Earth during the Android Arc that he only had time to learn one thing and the Moro arc also states that Goku struggled to learn Instant Transmission so Carthu kinda just ignored all of that to make up a nitpick

[@bruhminate7904]

He could have gone back to Yardrat during the 3 years of training for the androids.

[@larrylobster9174]

@@bruhminate7904could he even sense them

[@crispychicken471]

@@bruhminate7904or years after that

[@theemeraldninja5038]

​@larrylobster9174 No he couldn't. They were too far away. There's a reason why Goku teleported to King Kai before Namek

[@STGAoe]

@@bruhminate7904 Ah yes…and how would he have done that when he would have no clue where Yardrat was? He got back home with the Ginyu ship but odds are he wouldn’t know how to fly it back to Yardrat PLUS the Moro Arc even makes it clear its too far away to sense. Plus, why would he have gone back? He had no use for any of the techniques. Carthu brought up “why didn’t he learn it when he had faced so many opponents who can fuse” when Goku never fought anyone who could fuse by that point. It isn’t until the Buu arc where fusion became a major thing (Cell’s Fusion with the Androids was biological so that doesn’t count) and after that the world was at peace until Beerus showed up. So its a weird nitpick to wonder why Goku never went back when he never would have thought it was necessary nor would have had the time to do so since it took him a year to just learn the BASICS

[@O0Ga.B00ogA._]

I think the Justin’s Den video is a bit more comprehensive with more details about the arc & I hope you use that one for granola, but the carthu video is still fire.

[@O0Ga.B00ogA._]

Also maybe a runback with the Justin's Den Moro vid either off stream or sometime in the future (maybe twitch stream exclusive content) could be fun

[@fkeyae4217]

I feel like Justin’s dens videos are better but Carthu’s cool

[@O0Ga.B00ogA._]

@@fkeyae4217 I agree. I don’t get the Carthu hate in the comments.

[@alicepbg2042]

@@O0Ga.B00ogA._ people just hating

[@Dr.HooWho]

​@AM.hero_ because he literally made up a nitpick, where he said why goku didn't learn spirit to beat cell and majin when goku literally had Said that he only time to learn one technique and he struggled learning instant transmission. No one's a hater so don't be an idiot

[@huntercaptain9411]

For the Granolah arc, you should definitely watch Justin's Den video over Carthu Dojo's video. I love Carthu's content, but Justin Den's version is an overall better video for people who haven't read the manga.

[@thealien4863]

My issue with Carthu is that he often has some eye rolling takes where its clear he doesnt know much of the lore.

[@JRPOGM]

We might gotta run this arc back, this video skipped so much context and filled in personal opinions over it. Moro Arc movie is the way

[@rd1890]

Or Justin Den

[@orbboom6119]

What did he skip?

[@nickalas666]

@@orbboom6119 one videos is 36 min and the other is 1:41:11 so tell what do u think got skip

[@orbboom6119]

@@nickalas666 yeah but what exactly bro I guess he skipped the earthling fights but those were pretty mid ngl

[@macdaddysauce5785]

@@orbboom6119it’s mid but it’s good that the OG z fighters are back and gave them a little shine

[@theblacknaruto]

To explain why there are so many parallels to past arcs in Dragonball, Moro is meant to be a representation of all prior villains in one amalgamation. Its meant to further Goku's character and reinforce his principles when it comes to being a fighter. Also its pretty cool

[@arkkon2740]

Isnt that kinda what buu was? And theres so many parallels to Cell even though we have Jiren, Frieza, Hit, Beerus, etc. If a villain is meant to represent a majority if his rouge's gallery then there really should be more than Cell.

[@orbboom6119]

Thats just a cope from seth's video lol There should be no excuse for Goku repeating the same mistake he did against Cell😞and even with cell there was a reason, he was trying to push Gohan at least, here there's no reason Goku just didnt want to kill Moro for some reason. He didnt try to redeem Buu or Goku Black, why tf he trying with the demon goat.

[@visualsaep148]

@@orbboom6119this scene and the cell scene are completely different scenarios.im tired that people always claimed to be the exact situation.

[@orbboom6119]

@@visualsaep148 yes i diffirient them too bro read. But they are similar, goku gives a senzu bean to the main villain. But with moro is even worse cuz he could actually kill moro unlike cell and there was no good reason to not kill moro.

[@T_money808]

@@orbboom6119 Goku giving Moro the senzu was a growing moment for him, the Senzu Bean with Moro he does it to prove a point and that point came to fruiton Goku states “You’ll never enjoy freedom again” which is something Moro values dearly. He showcases a vulnerability like a cornered animal, Goku knew what made Moro tic and exploited that weakness of his. He knew how much he cared about his freedom and that he’d be dead if he couldn’t retain it. He gave him a dilemma and knew Moro wanted to stay alive but he knows the moment he gives up he’ll rot away in the prison he hates so much. Goku was never trying to “reform” Moro it wasn’t his intention, he even states Moro will be locked up again. Jaco tells Goku to finish him and Goku says “I know I will” because his intentions were different than against Cell. This showcases Goku’s growth and progression as a character

[@jupiteralt]

Sages hate for Suprime Kai and his celebration at thinking he was dead is the funniest shit 😭😂

[@jamararrington4426]

The teleportation the Yardratians use needs to have ki signatures to move to, while the kais and there attendants can go where they want. I think that line might have been a bad translation, or someone forgot how it works, kinda like how Resurrection F forgot Shenron can make 3 wishes, but he left out after 2. It's supposed to be 2 wishes if he resurrects a large group of people

[@corujarandompt9330]

So did everyone judt forget when goku says "I only had time to learn this one technique (instant transmition)"?

[@scottylikeamelody]

He could’ve gone back tho that’s the point

[@heroson11]

@scottylikeamelody How could he have gone back?

[@corujarandompt9330]

@@heroson11 tbf he can instant transmission from earth to king kai's planet, he can definetly do it to yardrat

[@jamescadet4450]

I think Scotty meant to say is at what point in the series that Goku could’ve gone back to learn the Spirit Fission Technique?

[@shmeebs387]

If Bulma can create a device to track dragon ball energy then I don't think it's a big deal for an ancient wizard to learn how to sense their energy after collecting and studying a few of them.

[@SoundIife]

I'll be on stream for the granolah but I just gotta say you gotta watch Justin's dens vid on it. Carthu doesn't really do a comprehensive vid like Justin did for both Moro and granolah

[@firechargeogname]

I wish I could be on stream but I can't because I have to delete stuff I don't want to delete stuff

[@cantu7214]

plus carthu is insufferable with his opinions that nobody asks for

[@cantu7214]

@Zamamasu thats fine but I can almost guarantee that not a single person clicked on his video to hear his opinions. They clicked for the Moro arc story 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@cantu7214]

@Zamamasu I have never laughed at any one of his “jokes” and most people will say the same. He should put “REVIEW” in the title 🤷🏽‍♂️. We clicked for the STORY, not for a high pitched voice to constantly interrupt the story just to complain and nitpick. Plus he’s not even remotely funny if you’re older than a teenager. It’s just cringe man

[@Zenith_Nulls]

​@@cantu7214"that nobody asks for" mf if you go to his channel you're inherently agreeing you're fine with dealing with his opinions as it's his channel and his videos

[@Oreobtw8]

Was waiting for this one

[@STGAoe]

If you’re going to watch the Granola arc video you should use Justin’s Den since he at least gets into the more intricate details of the plot too. Carthu kinda just runs through it while also putting in his own personal biases which is kinda meh

[@sugon_deez]

Plus the less details are in the video the more incentive there is to fucking read it for yourself. Besides, he would probably feel bad about posting a manga artists hard work that took literal months and just post it for FREE, so he minimises the amount of panels and story he covers, unlike justins den who has basically nullified toriyama and Toyotaros combined decades of work.

[@BlackJacked]

​@@sugon_deez The meat riding is crazy

[@somerandomguy9868]

@@sugon_deezthe mental gymnastics you just did deserves an olympic gold medal

[@Did_I_ask]

You're the bias one in this situation just because somebody has a different opinion than you

[@lucidmind9676]

Justin’s video actually go in more details with the arcs whereas Carthu skims thru them and like others said, inserts his bias about specific segments so Justin’s videos are more better when it comes to summarizing the arcs

[@vali4634]

I mean the simplest explanation besides it just being plot of him being able to sense the dragon ball is that they are connected to the lifeforce of the elder so he can just be using that

[@TabbyVee]

Somehting that wasnt shown in the manga breakdown that i absolutely love is how the energy donated to Goku by all of the Z fighters and Vegeta himself was absolutely tiny, like it was a Regular ass spirit bomb from when they were fighting against great ape vegeta sized. AND THEN OUT OF NOWHERE, this GIGANTIC energy ball arrives at the scene and the reveal that it was Uub's energy?!?!?! It was fucking peak.

[@jackmanleblanc2518]

I can't wait to see how much stronger the Super version of Uub is compared to GT... it's just, I'm really sad that Toriyama can't be involved for that anymore.

[@jamescadet4450]

@@jackmanleblanc2518hopefully he left some notes behind for Toyotaro to use.

[@Zeradias]

Carthu's RAGING hate boner for vegeta is annoying.

[@rroca9140]

Carthu seems quite an unlikeable person whenever he streams, so yeah, all of his complaining and interrupting the story to add his opinion on it doesn’t surprise me at all

[@Zeradias]

@rroca9140 I caught his stream of the last super hero manga chapter, and bro made it a point to single out and trash vegeta for having reactions to the fight that like 10 other people were watching and giving reactions to whether it was a bead of sweat or facial reactions.

[@jermiahahall6609]

Why do you watch?

[@CarthusDojo]

@@Zeradias making fun of Vegeta is funny bro idk what to tell you LOL top 5 character for me regardless it's just entertainment. as for my streams same thing, we're constantly running bits for entertainment idk how you don't see that? last stream there was a bit about me being bald and old it's just jokes man no need to take it so seriously

[@Zeradias]

@@CarthusDojo I don't find it funny

[@richborn6700]

Its crazy the Moro arc hasn't been animated. Think about this Super anime: July 2015-March 2018 (Less than three years) The anime was around less than three years but has been done for over *SIX* years. The Moro arc has been *FINISHED for over three years* now with no adaptation in sight

[@Megatron6260]

It’s fr about to get the Bleach Treatment

[@alexsmith3598]

Moro basically tells Namek "Give me your energy! Scrumdiddlyumptious! My compliments to the chef!"

[@RetroEternity]

17:35 Moro wishing the prisoners free wasn’t the issue. It was that the chapter ended on a cliffhanger and for 1 month fans online speculated and made theory videos wondering what Moro’s wish could be. If the DBS manga had a weekly release schedule it might not have been so bad, but since we had to wait a month the anticipation got people really hyped for something that felt kinda lackluster in the grand scheme of things.

[@Jerry-jo6dn]

At first it was but OG 73’s copy ability is overpower.

[@jameswatts2338]

Goku has been to new Namek during the cell saga in preparation for the cell games. He grabbed denda to be the new guardians of the Earth.

[@ieatpotatosalad535]

35:15 Goku went to New Namek to get dende to be earths new guardian that’s how he was able to find it so quickly he’s already been there.

[@gentlepeeps3351]

Honestly I really like the senzu bean seen it’s gokus own sense of justice too him everyone deserves a second chance and he is proven right with how many villains who were able to be redeemed. Him giving Moro the senzu bean was important to show that he understood merus sense of justice but he knew deep down if he can give a person a second chance he always will and that’s something I think the buu saga fumbled a bit

[@jalensimmons6856]

It’s funny how at the start of the video he said the other dude was skipping a lot of stuff just for this dude to be doing the same thing😭

[@sashalai3987]

This man went over Uub giving god ki to goku, goku unlocking perfect susanoo and the whole aftefmath of the fight in like 15 seconds wtf is this💀😭

[@Zenith_Nulls]

​@@sashalai3987 what would you have wanted him to add in that?? Rambling about those events doesn't change anything you will still understand what happened regardless of how condensed be makes it

[@sashalai3987]

@@Zenith_Nulls if this video by carthu was the first and only way you experiemced the moro arc, you basically hot it ruined, having the whole finale of the fight narrated in that way completely ruins the pacing and weight it has on the story, so YES i would have liked for jim to have include everything ESPECIALLY during the arc ending?!

[@shuri.kenz.]

A few things I wanted to say about the senzu moment Goku was NEVER trying to make Moro a good guy nor was this like Cell situation. He literally tells Moro he will never be free ever again. What Goku wanted was the keep the will of Merus and spare Moro. Moro failed the test so Goku killed him, it's as simple as that Everything Goku does is for the will of Merus. He tries to reform Moro because Moro begged for his life and reforming villains is the Galactic Patrol way Notice when Vegeta went to kill him, Goku did not intervene at all and it was only when Merus died that he tried saving him Goku tested Moro to see if he truly wanted to be helped. He first crushed his will then asked when he had no options left by giving Moro a senzu bean and defeating him to show even if he heals in prison he has no hope. The senzu bean was nothing but a successful test that demonstrates Goku's character development as a hero and his stances on morality

[@wbrodie55]

12:00 to be fair, the dragon balls do emit energy. Its the main reason the dragon radar can find them when they are active. Otherwise, they would literally just be rocks.

[@arkkon2740]

Its just the fact that he can sense them for some reason. And he's supposed to only manipulate life energy, the only "alive" part of the dragon balls is the dragon itself but that seems like a stretch because none of the other characters notice this.

[@Crazyee8]

⁠@@arkkon2740he manipulated the planets’ energies as well, not just life energy.

[@macdaddysauce5785]

@@arkkon2740it’s been said throughout that that’s not the only ability that he knows. And Moro uses magic based attack meaning that he can only sense anything with magic. The dragon ball is magic not ki based so it’s not hard to understand that

[@arkkon2740]

@@Crazyee8 maybe its just me, but did he not refer to the planet's energy as "life energy" anyway?

[@arkkon2740]

@@macdaddysauce5785 So bulma used a ki scouter to track magic then? It was stated that the dragon balls had a similar energy signal, so are the dragon balls ki based or is ki just inherently magical despite magic being its own thing?

[@IronCladam7]

Goku gave him that sensu bean just to prove no matter what you cant hurt goku. That was the best moment in the manga by far i cant wait for it to get animated

[@hughjazz6300]

You might wanna watch Justins Dens vid for Granolah, i personally dont mind but its for the people that dont like condensed recaps and wanna see a full length movie

[@bobbyhill6193]

What movie dude. It’s a fan made manga 😂

[@hughjazz6300]

@@bobbyhill6193 it's not a fan made manga. And I said movie as a metaphor

[@donterrius]

@@bobbyhill6193tf you mean fan made this is the official manga

[@awesomediscussions]

This is actually not the first time we've seen Goku's Instant Transmission not work in the series due to lack of energy. There was also the time in GT when Goku was teleporting everyone on the planet to Planet Tuffle for evacuation. He forgot about Piccolo, so he tried to teleport to Piccolo to save him, but he couldn't because he was out of energy.

[@Mighty_Mask2099]

Just came here to bring up that the sensu bean thing was more a call back to Goku vs. Piccolo. Goku gave him the sensu bean to give him a second chance.

[@justcuzitsepic5874]

"OH PEOPLE KEEP ON WINNING ON MAGIC BULLSHIT, BET!!" LMAOOOO laughed so hard 😂

[@AJkingwing]

I feel like whoever said to watch Carthu instead just doesn’t like longer videos, man. :( The fights are such a major part of these arcs, and to see only the cliffnotes of them is very disheartening tbh. I will concede that his videos are edited better, and he's definitely got more charisma, but with Justin's Den, you are straight up reading the manga. He gives you everything you need to hear. From the jokes, to even the smallest details in the fights. Also he's unbiased and doesn’t pause to say "because plot" or anything 🫠 Edit: Even at the end Sage is like "you can't just speed past all that day" because...YEAH. THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS SO MUCH. 😭 I really would've loved to see his reaction to Goku fighting Moros massive fists, Whis flying down to talk to him, and Whis /casually/ stopping one with a single finger. Or Piccolo shooting ki blasts and allowing Gohan to use them as foot holds to parkour his way ahead and close in on his opponent. Or like. ANY of the Z-fighters battles against the prisoners. Like, so many smaller, cool moments happened that I would've loved to Sage's reaction on. I really hope he watches the Granolah arc through Justin's Den. I really do 😭

[@marquistraylor1255]

There’s so many goated panels I wanted to see in this arc but were glossed over or skipped. I do appreciate Carthu’s video but I think for a first time viewing experience, it leaves so much on the table 😭 I’d rather Sage split up the videos if it ends up being “too long”

[@Telarius]

The dragonballs are magic. He can sense magic. Learned the dragonballs type of magic. He skipped over how he goes over some Namekians have mystical abilities similar to his magic. And he's learned it.

[@ThatSmolChild]

Unironically this should age well

[@Beer1302]

@45:31 got me tweakin with that laugh, Loved the video bro😂😂😂

[@Rscreen]

Skipping the roshi and z fighters fights is insane, I knew you would've like that one

[@islamdz7541]

Especially when yamcha said " I'm one of the 3 strongest earthlings " or something like that, getting pass that is a crime.

[@pumpko9439]

45:22 around this time stamp is definitely one of my favorite transformation sequences I've seen in terms of manga panels. I have no doubt in my mind people will go crazy about it if it ever gets an anime version.

[@jaquanbrown413]

I prefer the granola arc despite the weird power scaling granola was putting in work lol.

[@Jake42O]

Gas is an ass character tho

[@stampoulisrafael5262]

​@@Jake42Oif your eyes are closed he might be

[@donterrius]

@@Jake42Oand that is an ass opinion my boy

[@chrissellers205]

Love this series big dawg keep grinding 💪🏽

[@ScapeVEVO]

Goku really went to base, squatted down to Moro’s bitch ass and said “have you… EVER trained?” THATS MY KINGGGGG 💯💯🔥🔥🔥

[@Fuuploobope]

Little tidbit but that in the air gut punch Goku took his time setting up on Moro sent shockwaves so hard Beerus AND Whis had to look away cause of how vicious it was genuinely can’t wait till that’s animated along side have you ever trained

[@Apalkoz]

Do a Granolah arc next, pls, it is dope and Vegeta gets a BIG highlight and character dev

[@dansayles]

Dude the uub reveal at the end was so good. I jumped out of my seat reading

[@rinuchiha6961]

Goku may have known about Spirit Fission but was most likely in a rush to get back to Earth as quickly as possible due to Frieza having a headstart. As for using the technique on Cell, that would not work since Cell's Absorption is entirely different as he sucks life energy and not actually fusing like Buu. Also I don't think it would work on Buu either

[@collinleivas9605]

I remember thinking Goku was going to use Dragon Fist to hit Moro's head but even without it, Goku was something else in this arc. The way he grabbed Moro's wrist and Moro breaking his hand on Goku, it's all too good.

[@solomonexpress2445]

Dragon Balls obviously give off some kind of energy otherwise the Dragon Radar would never work. Moro being the ultimate magician and eventually figuring out how to detect that energy and track it isn't that crazy at all to me, so I go with option A.

[@espurrseyes42]

But why'd he only figure that out 3 days after?

[@kvngmilfromnap]

Almost cried when I saw the vids 56 mins keep it coming love the long vids and fire content shitssssss gas

[@rosenoire1183]

Kinda sad that Carthu didn't include the panels that showed Goku just walking in MUI and Moro taking 1 step back, getting confused as to why, then looking back at Goku into getting scared shitless. And also the dialogue between Vegeta and the Namekian Elder, which was a good interaction. I think watching Justin's den is better as its more comprehensive/full imo.

[@nickalas666]

he skip most of everything

[@parrotlord7393]

The yardrat techniques are also used by Goku (instant transmission) Tien (copies or anyone moving fast to use after images) and Piccolo (he grew huge against Cell Max and Goku)

[@thecupofbrew7955]

I think you'll really enjoy the Granola arc

[@shigo6745]

sage pumping out content i love it

[@whatareyoulookingat-h6l]

Can we talk about the ginyu force having more members is that mean freiza just didnt think he needed them or did they refuse to come i know toryama most likely just forgot about them being defeated on namek but still

[@TrippZ8]

46:30 the entire point of the senzu scene is to show goku learning from his time with frieza when he spared him and the moment he had his back turned frieza immediately tried to kill him he asked Moro if he would stay in prison if he left him alive but if he was at full power he would get the real answer because Moro would just break out again and Goku knows that he is still more than enough for Moro so he can afford to do this to see if he has to kill him to carry out meerus’s will

[@cyek9761]

I’m kind of annoyed you didn’t get to see roshis and the earthlings fight

[@odin-gamingandwrestling7141]

this just goes to show that uub is going to end up one of the absolute most powerful characters in the series if they utilize him right. Lil' kid uub having enough power to push Goku back into MUI and create a literal ki avatar means that dude is probably gonna get some INSANE feats in the future

[@oriintheclutch28]

Would recommend justin's den, dont like Carthu's bias in a recap video

[@jacenwade]

I always like Seth the programmers description of the Moro saga and what he represents to Goku, about how he’s is the culmination of all of gokus past enemies.

[@rd1890]

Justin Den's video is more better, no hate to Carthu, but....this was a mistake to watch Carthu go over the Moro Arc. Den is more detailed and comprehensive also doesn't recap or skim through alot of stuff and doesn't state his opinion until THE END of the video and after goin thru the manga with us.

[@rd1890]

Maybe you can go bak on this arc but allowin Justin's Den to go through it instead of Carthu, the same with the Granolah Arc

[@abstruseoni]

39:10 Perhaps the Namekians came back to life because their biology is different. Most organisms would be decaying after a couple months, but the Namekians are more like plants and don't require food to live. Some plants can fully dry up and be "dead", but then you add some water and they sprout new leafs.

[@NoLeasMiFotoDePerfil1]

The best DBS saga is that of Granolah🔥🗿 >>>

[@Jesucristo.f]

W

[@ElHombrePOLLO-zb9qt]

Definitely yes

[@Ant556Nato]

Fasho

[@yassine_elm1344]

Hell nah

[@ieatpotatosalad535]

@@yassine_elm1344definitely the best one so far. Goku finally remembering his parents, UI and SSJ used in sync, and and new form for Vegeta finally ? That’s a fucking great arch

[@tumelomothudi6162]

man did even finish listening to the sentence before celebrating shins supposed death 😂😂

[@osmakdb9706]

Didn't everyone hate the Moro arc when it was coming out? Now everyone loves it? Y'all hypocrites

[@just_an_internet_explorer8038]

Yeah. Legit every chapter you’d have people say “this is the worst arc ever”

[@richborn6700]

The Granola arc being the follow-up and sucking so hard has people looking back more fondly on Moro

[@jamescadet4450]

I’ve seen people all hype up in this Arc thinking Vegeta would be the one to kill Moro and were enraged when he lost to Moro 73 and didn’t land the killing blow.

[@nicholas2153]

12:23: The thing about the Dragon Balls is that they do exude a unique energy signature, (or whatever the appropriate phrasing would be) this is how Bulma's Dragon Radar can track them. She explains this when Goku gets her help with finding the last Dragon Ball after he defeats the red ribbon army, at the time the last Dragon Ball can't be tracked because Pilaf put it in a case which is made to jam the Dragon Balls signal. At the time she theorizes that an animal had eaten it and because of that the signal was being blocked by the animals' innards and stuff. So technically it isn't too farfetched to be able to detect this signal if your proficient in magic since the Dragon Balls are magical in nature. (they can do far too much unexplainable shit to say they are scientific, like creating panties out of nothing or grant someone their youth back) However, I do feel it's a bit iffy here. Maybe it could have used more work to get that to make more sense.

[@omarabdelnasser5455]

You got to watch Justin den like for the manga shit he the goat on recapping shit and being detailed with his recaps of the manga like moro has moments like yamcha has a moment of like fighting and vegeta doing a lot on yardrat like yeah we need to be on justin den like the people who say carthu dojo are like low attention span people for not sitting for an hour and thinking carthu dojo recap is better than Justin den recaps

[@yimwee2401]

I watch both and I feel carthus is better for people who already read/watched and want a recap and Justin is better for those who want all the details and are allergic to reading lmao

[@omarabdelnasser5455]

@@yimwee2401 agree with you but tso sage and everyone else is anime only and they don't read so yeah justin den for them but for me Justin den was the guy that let me know about the manga and it's difference between the anime and the manga so yeah

[@NotJpTem]

i like carthu's only BECAUSE ive already read the manga arcs. Justin is way better for people who havent read it

[@omarabdelnasser5455]

@@NotJpTem I did not read the manga so justin helped me on that

[@doppoorochi4464]

Yeah I agree say anything after TOP watch justin

[@MegaMachiOnline]

Technically Kibito Kai had no ki left to teleport to Namek to heal Goku after teleporting between the Living & Dead Realms like 3 times which is vastly distant compared to most people Goku locks onto to compensate for teleporting unlike Kibito Kai, hence why he didn’t escape Cell’s explosion despite being super saiyan. If only he had a senzu though.

[@Morjiro]

I this arc there was a moment where Goku apologizes to Gohan because Gohan had to fight

[@SplashGangNorri]

I’m not gone lie brother( and this is just me replying to your beginning part about Goku getting so adept at MUI so soon after just tapping into it at the time of need when he literally needed to break his current limit to even stay in the fight) I’ve went back & recently re watched Dragonball at least 3 times in the last 2 years & boy let me remind you how freaky of a alien Goku is. The man at 12 years old pulled up on master Roshi seen him do the kamehameha wave ONCE & just pulled it out his bag like it was NOTHING no training no understanding of how to even use ki energy at all yet just pulling out a KW like it was nothing. Mind you I don’t want you to get the wrong idea I totally was in the same thought process as you thinking they should’ve flushed out the progress of him mastering the technique a lil more than they did & gave him more time before he fully masters it I do get that trust. However time & time again we have been shown since the beginning of this series that Goku’s lil freaky ass is just hella gifted when it comes to catching on to techniques really fast & making them his own. So it’s not in the realm of that’s just bullshi writing even though it can be perceived that way when 1. if you don’t really go back & peep his story you won’t even see that Goku’s body BEEN like that since he was a jit & 2. Their reputation for bad writing gave us all PTSD so we’re so quick to dismiss something as being possible like him being able to progress so fast with the UI/MUI technique. Yes I know it is a God tier technique but we gotta remember this isn’t Krillin Yamcha who are humans, to them that technique will forsho take probably YEARS to even understand & master which we seen Roshi do it for a min against Jiren in the manga but Roshi is literally a sage & that man is hundreds of years old so him doing it makes sense he had time to master his techniques his ki control his mind etc. However Goku is an alien from earth, so I just decided to look at it from that perspective that Goku is just one of those anomalies that adapts to things a lot faster than the average fighter God or Human. If I’m tripping tho tell me I’m tripping I love talking about this stuff fr ? lol also lemme go watch the rest of this video cause the Moro arc is GOATED IMO. No pun intended 🤣🙌🏽

[@buildaggedonarmanaziie4462]

Moro, wishing for the prisons to get free, I understand how it feels underwhelming, but I actually liked it because it felt like a Batman Arkham Asylum breakout.

[@Zorua89]

Your reaction at the end was priceless. When he saw Uub reveal then Goku create an avatar of himself replying “ What the fuck am I’m watching” Lima😭☠️😭☠️

[@usman16k]

Carthu's comparisons to the Cell saga are unwarranted and ruined his summary (let us form our own opinions and save that stuff for a review imo). But some of it is just wrong. "Vegeta has never been one to misread an opponents strength" - he hasn't, mostly. Vegeta's flaw is that he overestimates his own strength and fails to live up to his own expectations, and gets folded. The only times you could argue Vegeta misread an opponents strength is against Goku in the Saiyan Saga, where his insistence on Saiyan classism and power at birth made him underestimate Goku. Against Zarbon, Freeza, Cell, Boo, Black (not Jiren, manga timeline only), Vegeta simply overestimates himself thinking a zenkai or his training or his technique or his new transformation or his class would be enough. Goku handing Moro a senzu - Goku knew he could fold Moro, his copy technique was sealed so there was no worry about that, it wasn't a dumb decision. He broke Moros hand by flexing straight after. Arrogant and prolonging what needed to be done? Sure. But not dumb. It even shows progression from the Cell saga, where Goku once gave Cell a senzu out of overconfidence and ignorance regarding his sons nature, Goku now gives Moro a senzu at his peak and with full confidence and faith in what Merus taught him. "Why didn't Goku learn Forced Spirit Fission?" - Goku explicitly states in the Android saga that he only had time to learn Instant Transmission with his time on Yardrat. This is reiterated in this arc. And, think about it, Goku also had to learn how to control Super Saiyan. Once the Android/Cell saga begins, Goku trains for 3 years in preparation for Androids - NOT Cell, so there's no way he would've known Spirit Fission could've been useful. Then, he gets sick, wakes up and is so far behind in power that the only logical option is the time chamber, not B-lining it to Yardrat. Then, during the ten day break before the Cell games, Goku has no intention of winning at all. He has so much faith in Gohan that it would be out of character for him at that point to go to Yardrat and learn Spirit Fission, and even then, ten days wouldn't be enough time. Then he's dead for 7 years. The Boo saga is too hectic to expect Goku to go to Yardrat and train for months. He has no need for it against Beerus, Freeza, Universe 6 or Black (until Fused Zamasu, but again, where would Goku find the time to learn the technique). Also, why would Goku, someone who wants to fight the strongest people possible, learn a technique that weakens his opponents?

[@DarkTaranza]

this comment is goated

[@GregSmithIII]

Toriyama loves his food-named characters lol

[@mousie508]

The creator of the video said Moro knew where the dragon ball was bc of plot yet Moro literally saw the same memory the great lord of lords saw in his own head💀 he probably saw the same shi when he killed that namekian Moro also let the prisoners go bc he had already planned out what to do also 73 had his powers Zeno also erased trunk’s timeline which included the grand priest and all angels if they were still alive why hasn’t the GP gone to find him

[@XnDrRoGeR]

The ad drop before the close up for choutzu is insane lmfao

[@Tk_601k]

This is real condensed and kind of a better “reaction” video type shit. Justin’s den is literally him telling a movie tbh. I really don’t see how he “skips” anything really🤷🏾‍♂️

[@edot_nyc]

He skips almost the entirety of fights and shows maybe 2 panels of each fight, skips a bunch of dialogue, and throws in his own personal bias over the actual story. It’s a good video for a summary but for someone who wants to view the arc for the story itself justin den’s version is better.

[@nickalas666]

the guy skip like more than half of the dialouge and the fights and important scene and u saying his is better

[@Tk_601k]

@@nickalas666 oh no in no way do I think his vid is better imo. Justin’s vids are great and are way better of a watch. Like I said in my og comment Justin is like a movie

[@Tk_601k]

@@nickalas666 only thing I say may be “better” is the fact that it’s damn near and hour less which makes it more “reaction” friendly

[@PriestDaSensei]

Redo this video please and watch Justin’s one you’ll get a way better understanding of the arc this way

[@Xxblade17]

Top tier arc I need this to be animated dawg 😭😭

[@sargeranders9546]

Justin Den is actually better

[@omarabdelnasser5455]

Same

[@Razorcarl]

Agreed

[@TheDonkanator]

The green guy that Vegeta was fighting when he was learning spirit control looks like Zarbon , gotta be his brother on the low lol

[@levig3576]

Hot take Moro and granolah arc could’ve been a movie, I don’t think we needed arcs to tell their stories

[@kaienglish271]

That would just be a rushed arc

[@hughjazz6300]

Disagree with the Granolah part not gonna get too deep into that cuz spoilers

[@arkkon2740]

Its an entire arc though. The movie adaptations had the problem of adding filler to fit an entire arc, but the inverse would need to cut out two smaller time skips and potentially any content we would get of the humans in years. Its one of the longer arcs as well iirc The Granolah arc is hit or miss with this idea as well

[@deonterector]

Agree....The moro arc needs to be a movie or 5 episodes with each episode that is 1 hour and 15 minutes long....give it the pluto treatment same with the granolah arc.

[@levig3576]

@@hughjazz6300 I think granolah could fit into a 1hr30 movie when you really think about it not much really happens

[@cm4n63]

51:40 he's gotta be, for end of z to make sense. the more time super goes on, the stronger everyone at the end of z tournament *has* to be, narratively

[@TrevorD19]

EOZ isn't happening since Akira died. At least not within the next 7 years it won't be animated.

[@sethtone8634]

i do love how Moro is like F#$% your super saiyan lol

[@Vxno20]

Cl I rate you for reacting to this, alot of spoilers but it's so good bro 🔥🔥

[@Riley_187]

23:05 I'm pretty sure the DBZ cannon states a person can only enter the Time Chamber twice, or they can only spend a total of 2yrs inside. I could be misremembering tho.

[@DragoX7]

If Bulma is able to use the dragon radar to track the Dragon Balls they must give off some sort of energy signature that can be tracked. it's not unbelievable to think that someone else figures out how to do that. It's like if people can sense Ki energy and use scouters to do the same, then using the dragon radar and or being able to sense the dragon balls isn't too much of a stretch.

[@diddly-squat9332]

When the Dragon Balls were first introduced (in the first chapter), Bulma explains that they emit a faint electromagnetic pulse, and this is what her radar pick up. So the simple matter is that Molo has learned how to track that pulse on his own. As for Pure Boo (Kid Buu), the reason why he has both Regular Ki and God Ki, is because, by absorbing the Dai Kaiōshin (Great Lord of Lords/Grand Supreme Kai) and the Minami no Kaiōshin (Southern Lord of Lords/Supreme Kai) he obtained their Natural God Ki. Core People like the Kais are born with Divine Energy, while mortal like Gokū, Vegeta and Toppo have to train in order to obtain it, by refining and condensing their own energy. Gokū Black SSGSS form is pink for that specific reason, Zamas has natural divine energy, while the same form has blue aura and hair when the user is a mortal who can tap into divine energy. When Boo split into two parts, the natural divine energy inherited by the two Kai, remained inside the Pure Evil Boo (Evil Buu) and later Pure Boo (Kid Buu), while the Mr. Boo (the Boo that resulted from Innocent Boo expelling the evil from within) was left with the Dai Kaiōshin persona within him, but not his divine energy. As for the Ginyu Force attacking Planet Yardrat, that does not mean there are more than Ginyu members, Vegeta himself states (when Goku came back from Yardrat) that the Ginyu Force was attacking that Planet around the time the Namek Saga was happening, this simply means that they had trouble conquering the planet, in fact there are abandoned destroyed city scattered here and there. A lot of people are also making jokes on how Molo is Boo and Cell combined, but the truth is that every Dragon Ball character, specially the main one, are all inspired by characters from the Journey to the West, Merus and Molo are based on Tripitaka and Sun Wukong, just like Whis and Beers are. Even the scene where Freeza kills Krilin happens in Journey to the West, when Sun Wukon kills Tripitaka's loved interest, destroying her from existence just to say to Tripitaka "I destroyed your loved one, where is you Buddha at? - What can you pacifist way do for you now?" because, just like Freeza and Molo, Sun Wukong things himself superior to everyone simply because of his power and longevity and can't be bothered to deal with inferior beings that can only live for few decades or so. When Sun Wukong was a demon, he also ate people to absorb their essence, which is why Boo, Cell and Molo are the way they are, they are all representation of what Sun Wukong was, before becoming the Victorious Fighting Buddha (which is instead the inspiration for Gokū). Also, just so we are clear, Gokū giving a Senzu to Molo is not the same thing as he did with Cell, because the motivations are different. Gokū gave it to Molo because, like Tripitaka, he things that Demons should be reformed and not destroyed, but when that fails, that's when the destruction is inevitable. This is so he naturally follows the laws of the Universe and why Vegeta fails time and again, just like he got punished for the way he dealt with Freeza when he first came back to life (in "Resurrection of F") because Vegeta acted like a Villain, Vegeta IS a Villain, he seems not to be because his target are other Villains, but if you look the way he fights and how Gokū fights, it is clear that Vegata heart is not in the right place. As for Cell, Gokū gave a Senzu not to try to reform him, but to help Gohan because he knew that the only way to awaken Gohan's true power was to push him over the brink, BUT failed to consider Gohan's feeling, because he doesn't like it when he looses himself to rage, because Gohan is not like his father, he has much more potential, but he's not a martial artist and relies solely on his emotional strength but when he loses himself, he is afraid of what can happen because he respects life (even the artificial kind − which is why he snaps when 16 gets destroyed in front of his eyes) and hates to kill.

[@wilsonmichael655]

I love Carthu but I gotta admit that Justin does the whole story recap a bit better but u should definitely watch othee Carthu videos, they're pretty neat

[@LuffyBlazing]

GOKU BEEN THROUGH SOME STUFF INTRO HAHAHAAHAHHAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH

[@YesImUrFather]

Moro is my new fav Villain...dude was a savage and gave Sengabo energy until his his body couldn't handle it, to the point Sengabo died with blood coming out of everywhere (eyes, ears, mouth, ect)

[@taecampus]

While Justin's Den summary is a bit longer and goes into more detail, id say both his and Carthu's Dojo are the goats at giving this manga Sagas an amazing recap. Imo Justin even does a great job with the manga's Super Hero Saga, which id recommend doing a reaction to. The pre Super Hero stuff is entertaining, the regular recap actually have some great extras that wasnt in the anime. And the Aftermath is obviously great stuff 👍

[@nickalas666]

carthu is not even in the top five

[@taecampus]

@@nickalas666 really? Who would you chose?

[@THENEWMrYungT1992]

9:24 that’s OP!! Taking the Ki around the WORLD!! Crazy

[@815nights]

Are you going back and reading these arcs yourself at any point in time?

[@MrGaleanon]

Moro was gaining more and more magic, and suddenly, "Oh shit, I can cast locate object now."

[@NiteStrike]

I wish Buu was used more like he was in this Moro arc. Like I wish Buu made it to the Ressurection F fight maybe he could’ve fought Frieza evenly in his first form but gone to final to show off his new power gap or something. Like at least buu would be used