BMW M2 Competition DCT: Explained. Don't buy one before you watch this!

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@TunedIntoCars
@TunedIntoCars 3 жыл бұрын
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@jonathanzalamea4935
@jonathanzalamea4935 3 жыл бұрын
I've binged so many videos about this car for the past week and noone has ever mentioned these quirks about the gearbox. Thanks for the info!
@vincent4226
@vincent4226 3 жыл бұрын
This guy: “quirks and features.” Doug’s lawyers: “hold my beer.”
@TunedIntoCars
@TunedIntoCars 3 жыл бұрын
Who's Doug?
@oshogweikekhai5499
@oshogweikekhai5499 3 жыл бұрын
@@TunedIntoCars lol, ask again pls
@Pheer777
@Pheer777 3 жыл бұрын
@@TunedIntoCars Doug Demuro on KZbin. He's known for always saying "quirks and features"
@TunedIntoCars
@TunedIntoCars 3 жыл бұрын
@@Pheer777 I was just joking, of course I know who Doug is. I'm a fan :)
@Pheer777
@Pheer777 3 жыл бұрын
@@TunedIntoCars Oh lol. Btw great channel, you deserve more subs
@cataphractster
@cataphractster 3 жыл бұрын
My F10 M5 was exactly the same, so now I am quite used to it in my M2 Competition.
@ksm1985
@ksm1985 7 ай бұрын
Have you had to change the rear swivel linkage yet
@cataphractster
@cataphractster 7 ай бұрын
@@ksm1985 I sold the M2 Comp many years ago and didn’t have to replace anything on it.
@ksm1985
@ksm1985 7 ай бұрын
@@cataphractster ah ok because my mechanic told me to get mine replaced due to wear and tear on the crossheam or something
@ksm1985
@ksm1985 7 ай бұрын
@@cataphractster please let me know if you have crossbeam issues
@maryruthfarrell2158
@maryruthfarrell2158 3 жыл бұрын
I like your videos on m2 comp. I have a 2020 since 9/7, 2019 and love it. It will crawl forward in drive. It's happened to me several times.
@twizzbharat2577
@twizzbharat2577 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like they are both great options depending on what you want. Manual in a car like this is definitely special though! Also this car in black is by far the best colour imo.
@nessuno5403
@nessuno5403 3 жыл бұрын
As it's been noted, there is a crawl function, just tap the accelerator. Comparing to a ZF auto is wrong, because this is a semi-auto. Some complain the car hops at low speed - this is no different to a manual being fed too little or too much power. Best options are to set one of the M steering buttons to comfort/level 1 and the other to full attack. Set off the lights with easy mode and quickly switch to other for no hopping. Lastly, the box doesn't need a P position because like a manual there isn't one. The box will lock once the engine is off.
@TunedIntoCars
@TunedIntoCars 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, i have said in the video that the car starts moving when you tap the accelerator. Also, i wasn't comparing it to the ZF box. I was just pointing out it's not as smooth. I've spoken to a lot of people that expect the DCT to behave like a ZF box in auto mode and that's just not the case.
@nessuno5403
@nessuno5403 3 жыл бұрын
@@TunedIntoCars exactly, so well done for doing this unique video
@rubbermoetroken
@rubbermoetroken 3 жыл бұрын
I think people need to realise that this is a robotised manual gearbox with dual clutch technology. The pro's from torque converter automatic gearboxes (crawling etc) are not really benefits but things we got used to and drive around. The DCT (and DKG from Porsche) are the best boxes around that are as close to manual boxes as you can get. I have 300.000km experience now in M5's, M3's and since a year in a M2comp, the fact that BMW dumped the DCT for a booring TC automatic gearbox really hesitates me going for another ///M in the future, so maybe Porsche it will be :)
@TunedIntoCars
@TunedIntoCars 3 жыл бұрын
Yup. Although you can still get the new M3/M4 with a manual
@cw205mi16
@cw205mi16 8 ай бұрын
It's not a robotised manual gearbox though, it's a dual clutch gearbox. A robotised manual will always be essentially a single clutch manual gearbox with solenoids working the selectors. BMW just made the DCT to behave in a certain way; it could have creep on brake release (instead of throttle tap) and it could hill hold forever but it releases clutches to save wear. VW's DSG copies traditional auto more closely. Porsche's PDK is the best IMO, no creep and shifts are perfect feeling like a sequential without the unsettling "shove" of BMW's DCT.
@rubbermoetroken
@rubbermoetroken 8 ай бұрын
@@cw205mi16 My F80M3 did not have the shove, neither does my M2comp. My F10M5 had it very strong, making the car an absolute widowmaker, stepping out (with TCS off) in corners when in auto shift at 200+kmh :-) I did tune the M3 and M2 DKG box though, it has the CS tune with the increased clutch pressure to prevent slippage (especially during exits while drifting, the moment you regain traction). I see from how you write you are a petrolhead too. Nice !
@stoss-11
@stoss-11 2 жыл бұрын
glad i had this video for reference im going to buy my new m4 and havent driven a DTC before. this saved my butt
@OhDearBabajan
@OhDearBabajan 3 жыл бұрын
i enjoy your videos man! keep it up
@tomkinross7213
@tomkinross7213 2 жыл бұрын
Great vid. It's refreshing to see content that helps others learn & understand before writing off a complex & considered piece of engineering as 'rubbish' Also, your handling of the troll tantrums is text book. Why ppl feel a need to add complaints to a msg board clearly titled 'comments'...🤔
@tepic9
@tepic9 4 ай бұрын
Thank you man! Very soon I buying this car (M2)
@TunedIntoCars
@TunedIntoCars 4 ай бұрын
I think you'll be very happy with your purchase ;)
@tepic9
@tepic9 4 ай бұрын
@@TunedIntoCars Absolutely
@PavloRiabchuk
@PavloRiabchuk 10 ай бұрын
I have Audi s4 with DCT and it has auto hold and creeping mode even when I am on a hill...it creeps up regardless. It works just like a hydro converter auto. But feels more mechanical and less smooth. So DCT can do those things BMW did not implement for some reason. I also have the lag between drive and reverse, as with BMW. Great to know. I was thinking I have some potential problems with it...)))
@cw205mi16
@cw205mi16 8 ай бұрын
it's just a different style, no creep vs creep on brake release. I recall an old Mercedes with old auto didn't creep. The creep is just not automatic on the BMW, you just need to tap the throttle.
@Zizzo96
@Zizzo96 3 жыл бұрын
Är du från uppsala? :D Bor själv ute i östhammar och kikar på att eventuellt köpa en m2a inom snar framtid
@DJBeast_official
@DJBeast_official 3 жыл бұрын
how is this against the new M3 competition in performance?
@setjoapelomohasoa8417
@setjoapelomohasoa8417 Ай бұрын
How do you put it on park?
@TunedIntoCars
@TunedIntoCars Ай бұрын
if I remember correctly, you just need to be in D or R and when you shut down the engine, it'll put itself in park
@setjoapelomohasoa8417
@setjoapelomohasoa8417 Ай бұрын
@@TunedIntoCars that's great. Thanks
@Venusfruit44
@Venusfruit44 3 жыл бұрын
Why do you think manuals are hard to find. If you do price is only going up.
@TunedIntoCars
@TunedIntoCars 3 жыл бұрын
Manuals are not hard to find at all on M2s. There are quite a lot of manuals out there and I think the US has more manuals than autos.
@alexmckeown9138
@alexmckeown9138 3 жыл бұрын
Another quirk! Don't have your phone on the dashboard! Lmao
@TunedIntoCars
@TunedIntoCars 3 жыл бұрын
And that’s a problem because ... ?
@alexmckeown9138
@alexmckeown9138 3 жыл бұрын
@@TunedIntoCars I'll let you figure that one out
@TunedIntoCars
@TunedIntoCars 3 жыл бұрын
@@alexmckeown9138 Oh boy :)
@alexmckeown9138
@alexmckeown9138 3 жыл бұрын
@@TunedIntoCars What? I had a friend who dies in an accident because of the other driver on the phone so don't "oh boy"me unless you want to take a trip over here and I'll show you "oh boy" might English too
@TunedIntoCars
@TunedIntoCars 3 жыл бұрын
I wasn't using my phone. It was pinned there with some notes I'm using for my videos. Simple as that
@alexhopestranger7386
@alexhopestranger7386 2 жыл бұрын
Ani hearing Doug Demuro vibes? 😅😅
@miguelalmendra5235
@miguelalmendra5235 3 жыл бұрын
Clean the car before make the video 😂omg
@TunedIntoCars
@TunedIntoCars 3 жыл бұрын
I'm good, thanks
@gsr2nr
@gsr2nr 3 жыл бұрын
I’ll stick to my manual m2c, it’s 10x better to drive.
@TunedIntoCars
@TunedIntoCars 3 жыл бұрын
That's great and all but that's not the topic of this video 🤷🏻‍♂️
@mambodiehard
@mambodiehard 3 жыл бұрын
I have an M2C DCT too. I'll add this: the DCT does have an automatic-emulating crawl mode: after you put it in drive and release the brake, just touch the accelerator pedal (don't keep it pressed), and the car will start to crawl continuously at a constant low speed. It's useful in flat terrain. I use it when getting out of my parking spot and specially in traffic jams. It's cool to see a video about this transmission, which is quirky but lovely :).
@TunedIntoCars
@TunedIntoCars 3 жыл бұрын
That's what I said in the video. Tap the accelerator and the car starts moving :)
@mambodiehard
@mambodiehard 3 жыл бұрын
​@@TunedIntoCars Right, but since on 3:13 you talked about the "no crawling feature" of the DCT, I think it's better to use the term "crawling" instead of "moving" to avoid installing the idea that the DCT doesn't crawl.
@mambodiehard
@mambodiehard 3 жыл бұрын
BTW, today I tried crawling uphill to see what the DCT would do. Since the hill was very steep and the power applied for crawling wasn’t enough to climb, the DCT just disengaged the clutch and the car started rolling backwards downhill. So, avoiding stall is the imperative for the DCT!
@MrSvolte
@MrSvolte 3 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, crawl works poorly when reversing too. My parking spot is tiny, and it's quite a pain to park in a "fine manner" with ~ 10-20 cm margins in the front and rear combined.
@Fontanat
@Fontanat 3 жыл бұрын
The F80 M3 act exactly the same. I love the feeling of a DCT.
@johncoughlan5613
@johncoughlan5613 3 жыл бұрын
Once again brilliant video, I just love the mighty m2 competition, thanks again my friend
@supertouring22
@supertouring22 3 жыл бұрын
Just got M2C this week, so learning the DCT as I go along, but thanks for the info. Counting to 2 makes sense.
@arifkoparan
@arifkoparan 3 жыл бұрын
do you like the stock exhaust sound,? some say it is quiet because of the new emissions in Europe
@bojangles6444
@bojangles6444 2 жыл бұрын
It’s easy man think of it as a manual with no clutch pedal that’s really what it is. I have driven these types of cars since my m3 in 05. I live in too much traffic for a 6 speed and I am always taking calls- drinking coffee, etc lol. This is so close to a real shifter the way it redlines it’s really not much different at all. And you can drive faster…
@bojangles6444
@bojangles6444 2 жыл бұрын
@@arifkoparan there is sound that comes through the speakers it tricks you. I dunno what it’s like outside. Inside it’s loud.
@aly-tek7190
@aly-tek7190 Жыл бұрын
As said before this is the only video I've seen talking about the gearbox. Well done on the overview. The M2 Comp is basically a racecar for the public roads and as such the DCT transmission is built to suit race conditions meaning, The gears are not in mesh position preventing the gears from getting heat spots from touching each other while sitting still, this is also why the engine stop button needs to be pressed twice to put the car in park and turn everything off. After the first press you can leave the car (really only while at the track for security) and allow the gearbox to cool before putting into park thus preventing any possible damage to the gear surfaces. I hope I've explained that so people understand (make sense in my head :P) Have a great day peeps ;)
@cw205mi16
@cw205mi16 8 ай бұрын
Two presses to turn off is just a curiosity of the cars. It releases the clutches, not gears, after a while of being stopped to prevent wear to the clutches.
@armankiarmankii
@armankiarmankii 3 жыл бұрын
Love the quick,honest and actually helpful tips😁👍👍
@JohnSmithCars
@JohnSmithCars 9 ай бұрын
I have an M2 Competition (automatic) and when I first got it, I often had the issue of the car rolling backwards whilst in drive or - in some cases even worse - rolling forwards whilst in reverse. You get into the car, turn it on, you're parked on a decline with you foot on the brake and select reverse to pull out, you release the brake and before you have a chance to accelerate out the car starts to roll forwards... Almost hitting the neighbours car in front. Nightmare. In order to reverse out safely I had to keep my left foot down on the brake whilst squeezing the accelerator, "counting to 2" whilst the car wakes up and releasing the brake only then. Quite dangerous for this to be the required input especially for people buying this type of car for this first time, or from a dealer that is unaware of this consideration when safely pulling out from stationary. The Hill Start Assist seems only to work with reliability when you come to a stop after driving and you're about to set off again. If you reverse however, then put the car back into drive whilst on an incline/decline the Hill Start Assist does "not" work and again, you have to left brake brake whilst applying 1.5 seconds of acceleration, releasing the brake only after 2 seconds before moving off. Having forgotten to do this a number of times I went ahead and developed a solution with code, plugged it into the M2 and now the hill start assist "always" works, whether I'm pulling out of a parking space or driving forwards after a reverse. No more rolling or left foot braking for me. Not sure why they don't set it this way by default.
@HNDevelopments
@HNDevelopments 3 жыл бұрын
I have an M2 DCT and you missed the biggest reason to go for the DCT. Fuel economy on the motorway in 7th gear. I'm 5000miles in to a Europe road trip and averaged 32.6 mpg 🤯.
@TunedIntoCars
@TunedIntoCars 3 жыл бұрын
Too bad you didn't watch the video. I did mention that :)
@HNDevelopments
@HNDevelopments 3 жыл бұрын
@@TunedIntoCars Really? Sorry buddy, don't remember hearing that at all :D
@TunedIntoCars
@TunedIntoCars 3 жыл бұрын
6:10 But 32.6mpg, are you sure? Cause that translated into euro speak is 7.2l/100km. I could barely get to 9l/100km in my European roadtrip this summer. Legal driving done mostly on highways.
@HNDevelopments
@HNDevelopments 3 жыл бұрын
@@TunedIntoCars Thats what the car is telling me, its and OG M2 not a M2c. Maybe using US gallon? 1 UK gallon is 4.54609?
@Crimeofficial
@Crimeofficial 3 жыл бұрын
@@HNDevelopments m2c takes around a Liter more on 100km. The lowest i got with my m2c is 8,5l
@bojangles6444
@bojangles6444 2 жыл бұрын
You should try the smg in the e46 m3. This is like butter in comparison. That thing you couldn’t drive slowly it would jerk you around. Like this but imagine tech from 20 years ago.
@kktorado
@kktorado Жыл бұрын
Hi, how can I rev up my engine without having to switch off the car to engage parking and then switch on?
@CameronRDavis
@CameronRDavis 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video man. Very well spoken and great information!
@savethecars315
@savethecars315 3 жыл бұрын
Perfectly on point on dkg behaviour in normal drive!!
@rj5014
@rj5014 4 ай бұрын
I bought a 2013 bmw m3 coupe convertible. So I’m not sure if it has hill assist, because it has DCT, and I don’t know how to operate it especially when it comes to the ROLLING back
@darylmorse
@darylmorse 4 ай бұрын
I have a 2020 M2C and based on my experience, I will say this is a pretty good explanation of the DCT. I previously owned an E46 M3 6MT, which had an autosolutions 30% reduction shifter and CDV delete. In my opinion, BMW manual transmissions don't shift very well. I don't miss the 6MT at all. DCT is much better and more fun to drive in almost every way. First, it's not humanly possible to shift a manual as fast as DCT, so all things being equal, a car equipped with DCT will accellerate faster than a car equipped with a manual. Second, yoiu can drive without taking your hands off the steering wheel. This is a good thing on the M2C because it's a very tail-happy car. If you are accelerating around a corner and you downshift, the car will immediately oversteer, which is a lot of fun. For a car like this I feel a lot safer not having to take a hand off the steering wheel to shift. I drive my car in sport plus mode and in manual almost all the time. It's a great driving experience and I feel involved as much as if I was physically changing the gear using a manual transmission. The thing I really dislike about the DCT is how it goes into park. There is no park position or button on the shifter. The transmission automatically goes into park when you shut the engine off, which you only can do in drive or reverse. You cannot shut the engine off with the transmission in manual. In fact, the only way you can put the car in manual with the engine off is to lift the car on a hoist and manually move a lever on the transmission. I don't know what the engineers were smoking when they came up with this.
@briankiro976
@briankiro976 3 жыл бұрын
The only way they could MAYBE entice me into an AUTOMATIC is if the price were $25,000 cheaper...and i would still say no. Nice video though. IMO a mineral gray M2CS in manual would be the best M2 ever (i know the color is not available- i would wrap it)
@Ratcher
@Ratcher 3 жыл бұрын
You’re so cool and rich :)
@TunedIntoCars
@TunedIntoCars 3 жыл бұрын
The CS sure is the best M2 out there, but it's significantly more expensive than a Competition. Is it significantly better? I doubt that, honestly.
@briankiro976
@briankiro976 3 жыл бұрын
@SorabJugend WUT!?!? What does driving my car to death have to do with a BMW fun car with a manual trans? Did i offend u with my love of the manual? Its 13 years old and it has 33,000 miles on it. Rs4's only available in 07' and 08' It sits on a lift in the garage most of the year. Im looking for a GT3, GT4, M2C, M2CS to park underneath it. MANUAL trans!
@briankiro976
@briankiro976 3 жыл бұрын
@@Ratcher COOL, u got me there. RICH... keep dreaming. If im looking at M2's.... im not rich. Lets not kid ourselves here, Its a 2 series bimmer.
@Ratcher
@Ratcher 3 жыл бұрын
@@briankiro976 Rich because you’d pay 25.000$ more for a manual than a DCT. It wasn’t related to affording an M2 - you don’t have to be even close to rich to own one :-)
@rodriguezahr
@rodriguezahr 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting video. Don’t remember any other reviewer of this car mentioning those quirks. Goo to know before joining the M2 club which is, in my opinion, the sexiest M ever.
@TunedIntoCars
@TunedIntoCars 3 жыл бұрын
It's hard to learn everything about the car when you just review it. Because journalists only get to drive the cars they review for about one week. Fortunately this is my personal car so I spend quite a lot of time with it and you just learn this things as you drive the car more.
@armankiarmankii
@armankiarmankii 3 жыл бұрын
@@TunedIntoCars makes sense!what are you're thoughts on the 718 gt4,review maybe and its so called ''quicks and features'' (copyrighted:Doug)😂😂
@TunedIntoCars
@TunedIntoCars 3 жыл бұрын
@@armankiarmankii i have a video coming soon with my favorite 718 GT4: the Spyder
@Wholiganify
@Wholiganify 3 жыл бұрын
I'm having a hard enough time deciding between the M2 and M2C, never mind the gearboxes! Basically, I think the M2C sounds crap, and I don't want the added expense of getting a different exhaust to make it sound better. So I'm leaning towards the M2 at the moment.
@TunedIntoCars
@TunedIntoCars 3 жыл бұрын
If sound is all that matters to you then buy the M2c. If you're looking for the best driving experience out of the two, then that's the Competition
@engpassat
@engpassat 3 жыл бұрын
i think these gear moods has the same functions in the regular M2 AKA comfort, spot and sport +
@TunedIntoCars
@TunedIntoCars 3 жыл бұрын
The gearbox is the same in both cars. Same functions, same everything
@zdenekk.8564
@zdenekk.8564 3 жыл бұрын
great video! I test drove one with 4,500 miles on it and what I found weird was in M1 mode first gear was basically unusable, would jerk the car from stop as if someone was driving a manual for the first time. Is that normal with the DCT? What was I doing wrong? Went away if put in comfort.
@TunedIntoCars
@TunedIntoCars 3 жыл бұрын
Depends what setting you had in M1. If the engine was in Sport+ then the jerking is normal as the throttle is more sensitive to touch.
@zdenekk.8564
@zdenekk.8564 3 жыл бұрын
@@TunedIntoCars Thank you for quick reply. It was definitely in Sport+ but it felt more like tires trying to spin but getting caught by the ESL....I don't know it was weird didn't feel like throttle jerk....more like clutch or nanny engagement. Either way, totally turned me off that particular car....I'll have to try another as I'm torn between 6M and DCT...of course also looking to first see the 2023 designs - big kidney grills are probably a non-starter for me...lol
@TunedIntoCars
@TunedIntoCars 3 жыл бұрын
@@zdenekk.8564 you have to keep in mind that BMW's DCT is actually an automated manual. So jerking in 1st gear in Sport+ is quite normal. Just skip it if it annoys you 😉
@sosokizza
@sosokizza 3 жыл бұрын
Great honest review.
@Geraldodotz
@Geraldodotz 9 ай бұрын
“And the other cool thing about this button……and the other cool thing about this button” I thought my phone was glitching 😂😂😂. Great vid dude, thanks
@mickqueensland1204
@mickqueensland1204 Жыл бұрын
Very good explanation on DCT. I am thinking about which model BMW to get and this is helpful info. Cheers😂
@6pot
@6pot 2 жыл бұрын
I dont have an m2 but i kinda understand your feelings, had a dct car from audi and i hated it.. m2 dct seems more refined but being also dct has some same issues.. you have to live with them.
@David-ju5ci
@David-ju5ci 3 жыл бұрын
Great info many thanks.
@g.w.7893
@g.w.7893 7 ай бұрын
Quirks=Personality
@kkeennyyboii
@kkeennyyboii 3 жыл бұрын
What should you do when on a hill? keep a little bit of throtl?
@TunedIntoCars
@TunedIntoCars 3 жыл бұрын
You didn't watch the video, did you? :) There's a part in my video that addresses just that. When you are on a hill and let go of the brake, you still have a couple of seconds until the car starts rolling down.
@hilalyenice6775
@hilalyenice6775 2 жыл бұрын
@@TunedIntoCars if u forget and the transmission clunks. Does it damage your gearbox ? If u forgetgo wait a second or two
@richardnixon4345
@richardnixon4345 3 жыл бұрын
We have just bought ''normal '' M2 Massive saving on new, only 6600 km , I don't care it is DCT, we love it
@alvinw5675
@alvinw5675 3 жыл бұрын
Don't forget to tell them how to get to P (park) by turning off the car.
@adriankupcsik3504
@adriankupcsik3504 2 жыл бұрын
by 5:43 the button's name is: Drivelogic
@GTI_CHHA
@GTI_CHHA 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent informative video, thanks!! I have not seen any other car channel covering this important drivetrain topic.
@rayner1704
@rayner1704 2 жыл бұрын
It’s dog shite at setting off haha kangaroo time
@tbbmw_m240i
@tbbmw_m240i 3 жыл бұрын
Nice ! Love the M2C
@iABomb
@iABomb Жыл бұрын
Great content, helped a lot. Thank you!
@David-ju5ci
@David-ju5ci 3 жыл бұрын
Great info thanks.
@kitvexed8229
@kitvexed8229 Жыл бұрын
i would never buy an M car in automatic if manual is available..
@TunedIntoCars
@TunedIntoCars Жыл бұрын
Cool!
@arifkoparan
@arifkoparan 3 жыл бұрын
I am thinking about buying one begin 2021. but I realy dont know what colour I should go for, black or blue, not the white ones
@marlborom2c829
@marlborom2c829 3 жыл бұрын
I find the same about the DCT. Took awhile to get used to it. The DCT makes the M2C quicker off the line. Like a manual, you have to stay engaged and remember its not an automatic. Gotta keep on the brake inclines or declines at the traffic light. Good video. I am hearing no more M2's from Germany. Can anyone confirm that production has ended with pandemic? Not sure if true, but would like to know from a credible source.
@TunedIntoCars
@TunedIntoCars 3 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/kImToHmlltyrr6c - am i not a credible source? 😁 But yes, you can only buy a new M2 Competition outside of Europe, at the moment
@CruisinCuzzi
@CruisinCuzzi 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@BEAR_S55
@BEAR_S55 3 жыл бұрын
Too late I already bought one!
@ItsfunnehKREWfan
@ItsfunnehKREWfan 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent info thanks for sharing 👍
@samcourt6228
@samcourt6228 3 жыл бұрын
Isn’t the lack of crawling pretty common with dual clutch gearboxes? VW’s DCT doesn’t automatically crawl either.
@TunedIntoCars
@TunedIntoCars 3 жыл бұрын
all vw group cars I've driven with a DSG had the crawl functions. Even Porsches
@samcourt6228
@samcourt6228 3 жыл бұрын
@@TunedIntoCars the ones I’ve driven didn’t (MK7 GTE/GTI/R) all needed a prod of the pedal to get them to start. When my Golf driving friend drove my M140i with the ZF8 he nearly got caught out when it started creeping on its own moving. 😂
@TunedIntoCars
@TunedIntoCars 3 жыл бұрын
@@samcourt6228 are you sure you didn't have autohold on? :D
@samcourt6228
@samcourt6228 3 жыл бұрын
@@TunedIntoCars ha ha. Nope, starting the car, selecting D and they needed a tap on the accelerator to wake up.
@eaglesluka699
@eaglesluka699 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, can You tell me if there is a difference between a regular m2 dct and a M2C dct ? They have other features or it’s all the same ?
@TunedIntoCars
@TunedIntoCars 3 жыл бұрын
As far as i know they are the same. Maybe different tuning because they are paired to different engines, but feature wise they are the same
@eaglesluka699
@eaglesluka699 3 жыл бұрын
Tuned Into Cars! Thank You 🙏
@nicolasmartinez8215
@nicolasmartinez8215 3 жыл бұрын
Como quisiera tener ese autasooooo
@hussainmualim1547
@hussainmualim1547 2 жыл бұрын
Where is he from? I like his accent 💯
@TunedIntoCars
@TunedIntoCars 2 жыл бұрын
he is from Romania
@ponecr8s330
@ponecr8s330 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you boss!
@skoovt
@skoovt 3 жыл бұрын
What about the crank hub ?
@TunedIntoCars
@TunedIntoCars 3 жыл бұрын
What about it?
@DjNikGnashers
@DjNikGnashers 3 жыл бұрын
Never thought I'd say this, but I'm so glad my M140i has a ZF8 torque converter, it is a much better gearbox than the DCT. Even in sport gearbox mode, it still changes at low revs if you don't apply much throttle, and the more throttle you apply the more it holds on to the revs, much better than this DCT. And now it's been upgraded with XHP3 software, it changes just as fast as the DCT too.
@TunedIntoCars
@TunedIntoCars 3 жыл бұрын
Much better than the DCT? I really disagree with that statement. Having owned cars with both, if I had the choice, in a sports car, I would take the DCT without looking back. The ZF is quite excellent but at speed, the DCT is just faster. It was especially noticeable when I drove the new M5 and then jumping straight into a DCT car. You can clearly see the differences then.
@DjNikGnashers
@DjNikGnashers 3 жыл бұрын
@@TunedIntoCars The DCT is faster comparing standard cars. Did you miss the part when I wrote mine has upgraded XHP3 software ? My friend 2 doors away has an M2 with DCT, I have an M140i with XHP3 upgraded software on my ZF8. My gearbox changes every millisecond as quick as his DCT, and is much better in the other ways I mentioned in my post above. It is also much smoother as slower speeds with none of the clunky jerks that the DCT has. So yes, it is better. Maybe that is why BMW now use the ZF8 in modern M cars huh ?
@TunedIntoCars
@TunedIntoCars 3 жыл бұрын
Compare the two transmissions as stock. What's the point otherwise? You can flash the DCT as well and make it even faster. But yes, it is much smoother than the DCT and more efficient. That's why BMW added it to the new M cars. Again, it's a matter of preference, not a fact, as you claim. You really can't go wrong with either
@DjNikGnashers
@DjNikGnashers 3 жыл бұрын
@@TunedIntoCars Both standard, and I still say the ZF8 is better. It is still extremely fast to change gear in sport+ or TC off modes with the auto in sport box mode. The DCT is literally a few milliseconds quicker to change when both are standard, but is clunky, jerky, and has other annoying flaws like the way if you are on a hill in drive mode, and don't accelerate as soon as you take your foot off the brake, the car rolls backwards. What about the 2 second delay when going from forward to reverse ? I have driven both, I work in the trade too, I know the truth. The ZF8 is better in every way as standard, apart from a few milliseconds slower to change gear than the DCT. XHP3 cures this, and I actually think it's faster to change gear than a DCT when this is done, although we are talking milliseconds so it is hard to measure. So as much as I respect your channel, I stand by my opinion as the truth.
@TunedIntoCars
@TunedIntoCars 3 жыл бұрын
Every 'flaw' of the DCT is in this video, why bother repeating it? I'm very familiar with then. And that's the whole point of the video. To mention these things for people who are considering buying a DCT BMW. So that they make an informed purchase. What I find surprising is that you're trying to get your opinion across as facts, or truth. It's not, it's just your opinion. Except for the fact that the DCT is faster at speed and the ZF being smoother, more refined and more efficient, everything else we BOTH said is simply an opinion or a preference. And yes, despite everything you've just said, my preference is still the DCT is an M2 Competition. If I had a daily driven BMW, for sure I'd go for the ZF. It's much better in that scenario, while still being quick enough when changing gears manually. But in a sports car, when you're fully on it, those milliseconds make all the difference in the world.
@derekwu5576
@derekwu5576 3 жыл бұрын
U spend 2 much time on explaining driving a stick , just speed up to the real point
@TunedIntoCars
@TunedIntoCars 3 жыл бұрын
How about just watching videos on topics that interest you? This clearly isn't one of those
@mariogarciamarin2376
@mariogarciamarin2376 3 жыл бұрын
Questions: 1.When you are in red traffic light, do you recomend put the DCT in neutral position or only push brake with D? 2. Is bad to the DCT put neutral when you are riding in low speed to do revs? Thank you
@TunedIntoCars
@TunedIntoCars 3 жыл бұрын
1. No. Why would you do that? Watch the video, when you're standing still, the clutch is disengaged, even if you don't press the break pedal. 2. I don't know
@mariogarciamarin2376
@mariogarciamarin2376 3 жыл бұрын
@@TunedIntoCars 1.1. I have thought that putting the transmission in neutral when the car is stationary, even at a red traffic light, will be healthier for the DCT, but I really don't know.
@TunedIntoCars
@TunedIntoCars 3 жыл бұрын
@@mariogarciamarin2376 again, watch the video. You'll see what the transmission does when you completely stop and you'll understand why putting it in neutral doesn't do anything really
@mariogarciamarin2376
@mariogarciamarin2376 3 жыл бұрын
@@TunedIntoCars nice video. Thank you!
@335i_Max
@335i_Max Жыл бұрын
Got it as my first car from my parents on 18th!!! Absolutely love it, pleasure to drive can’t wait to do stage 2 bm3 with downpipe and intercooler with charge pipes 🫶
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