TUNING the FX Impact M3 & Understanding Gun Harmonics

[@tobionemiyagi5933]

Very nice video, thank you for that. I’m going to use your advices when continuing tuning my M3. Best regards from Sweden.

[@VikingAirgunner]

You are welcome 🙂 I have one more tuning video on my channel where I tune a bit different. You can watch it for inspiration 🙂 Best regards Peter

[@jennysok]

Speed is important. But accuracy is everything!

[@VikingAirgunner]

Amen!! 🤗

[@nonickname6154]

fantastic video - a lot of dedication & experience to put all those insights & tests together - excellent ! One thing I'd like to share is that I don't follow the instructions with the harmonic barrel tuner weight. According to instructions you are supposed to screw the weight out as far as possible (away from the butt) and then gradually screw in to find the best grouping. Starting with the weight as far out as possible must (technically) put the barrel under the most strain. So I start with screwing it in as far as possible closest to the butt, and then gradually screw it out to find the best grouping. Not sure if it makes any difference at all, but it's a few cm of travel between starting as far out as possible or starting as close in as possible. Could be that I'm thinking about things too much 🤔😀Keep the videos coming !

[@VikingAirgunner]

Hi Nick and thanks for your comment 🙂 I dont think that it makes a big difference if you start in one end or the other. While testing the barrel tuner I saw that there was several positions where the groupings was comming together. So I dont think that it does too much of a difference if you choose one or the other. Im actually using the tuner right now and it is performing well. Equaled my best group at 100 m in the first session 😃

[@vinnydub7192]

Love your videos very educational keep it up Peter

[@silviosirianni9260]

Loving this Chanel, hello from Australia

[@VikingAirgunner]

Thanks buddy 🤗

[@elcristiano22]

You're not late budy thank you so much for the video

[@iiimilleriii275]

Awesome video, was looking for info on how to tune the valve on my new impact. First pcp i own with a valve adjuster. 👍

[@VikingAirgunner]

Thanks buddy 🙂 And in a week I will post a new video with a different way of tuning the M3. Actually involving the front valve even more 🙂

[@2L8CO]

Great videos. Can I suggest an additional microphone for increased volume options for the listener. Keep up the great informational videos.

[@VikingAirgunner]

Thanks buddy 🙂 And thanks for your input. I have been working on the sound using different microphones so hopefully my sound quality and the volume issue will get better 😃

[@3pasos]

☆🍻☝️☆👏☆🔵☆☝️ #Great work Peter,Thank you for your nice tips,Best #Regards from South America ☝️🇨🇱 Chile🍻🌴🍻🌴●●Pj ●●

[@SnipeLoisirsTestsCustoms]

Hi friend very good video, it shows the influence that the settings have on performance, you adjust really well 👍

[@VikingAirgunner]

Thank you buddy 🙂

[@Hayden_hardmoney]

What chronograph are you using? Getting my m3 this Friday and super intimidated after watching this lol😂 I will be watching more of your videos see if I can master this. Great video

[@VikingAirgunner]

Uhh you are up for some great experiences 😃 When following my KZbin channel remember that some videos are new and some are older, so experiences were different two years ago than they are today 🤓☝️ The chronograph in the video is the FX Pocket Chronograph V1. They have released a V2 but the old one is better. So if you can get the old one you are good 😎 Did a review of the new one but it stopped working imideately after I finished filming 😳

[@Hayden_hardmoney]

@@VikingAirgunner Wow so glad you replied!!! I just texted my buddy who is very experienced in air guns and he is coming over this weekend to help me tune this- I appreciate your fast response and appreciate your videos. I am big into firearms and just recently got into airguns which I fell in love with right away, so much that I love air guns more haha.

[@animeshpatil767]

hello peter from india..i just love ur videos..ur dedication is just on another level..i just want to ask that i think i did lower my 2nd reg pressure without degassing the gun, now the 1st and 2nd reg pressure is same..also the 2nd reg has become non adjustable..can u pls help and share some advice

[@VikingAirgunner]

Hey and thank you for your support 🙂 It sounds like there is some kind of damage to the 2nd reg after lowering the preasure without degassing. Only way is to uninstall it and inspect. Look at the orings and in particular the piston. It is possible to lower the reg preasure, but be sure to do it very gently. Tiny adjustments and then fire the gun a couple of times. Repeat untill you have reached your desired preasure. My general advice is to always degass the gun completely 🤓

[@amink9436]

Hi mate, great video as always 👌🏻one thing to consider about carbon fiber, and it's the difference between thermal expansion rate between carbon fiber and metals,specially steel, cf has very low thermal expansion rate and steel has higher rate, this could cause accuracy issues in higher or lower temperatures

[@VikingAirgunner]

You are so right 🙂 I think that many dont know this! That also a good reason not to glue the carbon liner sleeve to the liner ☝️🙂

[@reyalPRON]

Regarding new pellets or slugs and or new calibers its advised to set hammer and spring to 8 as a starting point. :) I myself shoot .177 h&n match exacts at 886 fps, the gun is so accurate its ALWAYS me if its not hole in hole.

[@VikingAirgunner]

Thanks for sharing your experience 🙂 I never shoot pellets so very nice to know that it can be accurate 👍👍

[@reyalPRON]

@@VikingAirgunner fun that its the gUy and not the gun every shot i miss. Hehe

[@paulsapper]

Great videos I was wondering what chronograph you are using ?

[@VikingAirgunner]

Thank you 🙂 It is the FX Pocket Chronograph v1🙂

[@paulsapper]

@@VikingAirgunner Great thank you.

[@edwardfern4359]

Another great and informative vid! 👍👏

[@MrIbanezRGfan]

I'd like to see the results in accuracy with that tutorial. Nice video.

[@VikingAirgunner]

Thanks 🙂 If you go to the FB group FX 177 Owners you can see a post I made a few days ago on my latest group - actually my best group ever 😃 Pretty proud here 😂

[@VikingAirgunner]

Ohh sorry it was actually with the 13 gr ZAN and not the 15 gr NSA that I tuned the gun for in this video!

[@Pauldwesley]

Great video thanks. Got one question, how do you know or find out the velocity for a certain pellet or slug? Is there a data base online?

[@VikingAirgunner]

And a good question that is 👍 Different ways of finding out. One would be the FB/KZbin investigation method. Problem with this is that there are a serious number of configurations to a gun. Barrel type, length, reg preasure, size of hammer weight and so on... All has an effect of the vibrations of the gun. So one might say 920 fps and someone else says 1020 fps. And thats where you really didnt get anything usefull. Second method - and what I usually do. Test within a range of 100-150 fps in perhaps 20 fps steps. This will give you an idea of where to focus. There might be several good velocities so you might have to try several of them. So this is where you start to focus on the fine tuning - so if you are around 960 fps it is an idea to try from 950-970 fps in 5-7 fps steps. A very long proces, but if you invest in this proces the chances of finding a perfect setup is much more likely.

[@Pauldwesley]

@@VikingAirgunner thank you for the reply. I now have a starting point, I actually enjoy the process of tuning so I’m looking forward to getting my FAC m2 in harmony with my chosen slug. Thank you again.

[@ronaldpierattini6909]

What a good video, I have a question. I recently had an M3 and I am setting it up. It is true that when the M3 is well set up you should hear it clearly when the plenum fills with air or is it a myth? I ask you why I don't hear it and to be clear that I have to keep insisting on searching for those sounds or maybe it's not necessary.

[@VikingAirgunner]

Hi Ronald I havent thought about that in a long time, so I had to take the M3 out and test. I remember having heard the plenum filling, but today I didnt hear anything. I would say - dont pay too much attention to it. Aslong as your reg is returning to the same setting fast, you are ok. If you hear the plenum filling and the sound takes much more than 5-6 sec, you might wanna service your reg with inspection of the o-rings and some fresh lube. Maybe give the springs a light polish 🙂

[@ronaldpierattini6909]

Thank you very much for your advice

[@peashooter950]

I have not shot the 15gr NAS for a while, but on Wednesday i ended up on 1080 FPS for the 13 gr KO slugs. AND ! i just remembered, i need to clean and lube the Maverick for tomorrow.

[@VikingAirgunner]

1080 might be a bit over the top 😂😂

[@peashooter950]

@@VikingAirgunner It was going pretty well, at slower speeds ( reg pressure lower ) and less hammer i just was not able to get a fairly flat shot string. I think i will put in a new Huma regulator over the winter, even when i get close i still have that shot every 10 - 12 shots that just are 10 - 15 FPS slower. Just got done and OMG lubing trigger made something go haywire CUZ i now have a 1 stage trigger. Will have to look at that tomorrow though, dont want the chance major air release at this time of the day in the apartment.

[@chriscrawford2197]

I don't know why everyone is so caught up on velocity. Velocity is only helpful for one thing, setting up a DOPE chart for different distances. I shot long distance with a 50CALBMG and. 338 lapua. I never chrono either of these when I was working up their loads. With my air guns I do pretty much the same thing. Start with a baseline. Pick a pellet you want to shoot. Start shooting groups and make small adjustments as you go, keeping track of all the adjustments you make. When you get it to group that you like, write down your settings. Do the same for any other pellets you want to shoot. If the groups are acceptable to you, what does velocity matter? My gun shoots MOA and 1/2 MOA at 50y. I have no idea how fast they are going. Just something to think about.....

[@VikingAirgunner]

Hey Chris That is also a way to do it and I bet that it works really well, but if you are shooting a different distances many are using ballistic calculators. And they work really well if you know your velocity 😉 - just a little something to consider 😃

[@chriscrawford2197]

@@VikingAirgunner very true, that's what I said. I have long range DOPE charts for both my center fire rifles.

[@VikingAirgunner]

@@chriscrawford2197 Im happy for you but I think that I will stick to the measuring of velocity and the use of Strelock 😉

[@chriscrawford2197]

@@VikingAirgunner I think we have a misunderstanding here. After I get any of my guns grouping acceptable, I will then chrono them to get their velocity to use in Strelock Pro. Then make a DOPE chart to use in the field.

[@VikingAirgunner]

@@chriscrawford2197 That makes sense 😃

[@amunraa1]

well explained, thank you and regards from Austria

[@VikingAirgunner]

Thank you very much 🙂 Best regards and a nice weekend 😎

[@chrisfigueroa3361]

Awesome video man thanks for the info now that I think about it I think I have my fx m3 22 cal 700mm the reg may be to high might have to turn it down a bit thanks again

[@VikingAirgunner]

Thanks Chris 🙂 I hope that it will help you with better accuracy 😎 Have a nice weekend 🌞

[@teslam3chennel]

Nice setup on the M3. I'm gonna get this M3 600 mm this Christmas. Can you put the link where you get your setup items, for example, the Bipod, scope and etc...just subscribe. Good videos Sir👍

[@VikingAirgunner]

Welcome to my channel mate 🙂 Usually I do my shopping at Krale in Holland. The gun I got from Arms Gallery in Copenhagen 🙂

[@rolf-erikhafgren1616]

Hej Viking och tack för toppenbra videos. Undrar vilken modell du har av momentskruvmejseln WERA och vilken moment du har till låsning av pipa. Ser fram mot nya videon av M3. Ha en riktigt skön dag😊 Rolf Hafgren

[@VikingAirgunner]

Hej Rolf og tak fordi du følger med i mine videoer 🙂 Nøglen er en 7441 og jeg spænder løbet med 1,6 nm. Bedste hilsner Peter

[@Rolf19421]

@@VikingAirgunner hej Peter och TUSEN TACK för svaret. har nu beställt Wera 7441 men dyr! Ca 1.150:- med frakt. Nu till nästa problem. 10mm hylsa är ju STENHÅRD! Vad använde du för verktyg att kapa sidorna? Ha en skön helg när den kommer. Hälsningar Rolf.

[@VikingAirgunner]

@@Rolf19421 Velbekomme 🙂 Den 10mm top jeg brugte, var i ret dårlig kvalitet, så det var nemt at save i 😃

[@rolf-erikhafgren1616]

Ok Peter. Jag får prova med min Dremel. Ha en jätteskön helg. Jag älskar dina videos😊

[@VikingAirgunner]

@@rolf-erikhafgren1616 God fornøjelse 🙂

[@recklessjunkie]

Thank you 🙏

[@recklessjunkie]

Hey Viking Airgunner do you use scope stickers ? I mean I don’t see them on your top turret so maybe not but man I’m looking for a good video on how to use strelok pro the “ballistics calculator app” I mean there are videos out there but I don’t think any of them are that good in explaining it my problem is zeroing my scope and if I’m even doing that right because the app takes your zero into account and I feel like does it even matter what angle you zero at you know shooting from a bench that’s not at the same level as your target does that matter what about human errors like what if I’m not getting a consistent group because the recoil on my gun is atrocious when zeroing idk do you see what I’m saying anyways thanks for this video it was extremely informative and it will now be my go to for tuning my m3 when I get around to that thanks 😊

[@VikingAirgunner]

Hey 🙂 Thank you so much for your comment. It is comments like yours that makes me wanna do these videos. About the scope stickers I never used them. Just never felt that I needed them. Maybe bcs Im always changing ammo and barrels 😃 When I was looking for info about Strelock Pro I saw a video by Meathead Marksman and it got me pointed in the right direction. Apart from that I dont know. Guess that I could make a video about it but I like to have a certain knowledge about the themes that I adress and here I feel pretty bad at it 😂 I can get it set up, but thats it 😃 Have a great weekend 🙂😎

[@recklessjunkie]

@@VikingAirgunner I like meatheads videos haha thanks yeah no I hear you if your constantly changing ammo those stickers become useless haha well hey thanks I’ll be looking forward to your videos no PRESSURE!! 😂

[@VikingAirgunner]

@@recklessjunkie Spoiler alert - well hidden here in our thread 😉- 177 Heavy liner 600 and 700 mm 😎 Shhhhh... 🤫😜

[@recklessjunkie]

@@VikingAirgunner oh wow hey thanks can’t wait should be interesting 🤓🤐

[@geckomo1882]

Great video, thanks!

[@VikingAirgunner]

Thanks man 🙂 Check out the other tuning video I have done too 😎

[@andydowden8117]

Wow fantastic vids as always👍

[@VikingAirgunner]

Thanks Andy 🙂

[@gregwade6719]

very good video..love your work

[@VikingAirgunner]

Thanks mate I really appreciate your support 🤗

[@Andytn80]

Hi Peter, I was wondering does your gun have a wide shot string before it gets in tuned? My maverick .22 jump up and down a good bit so sometimes I'm confused if it's maxed out at that reg settings or not to adjust for tuning correctly.

[@VikingAirgunner]

Usually it helps with the spread, when you follow the instruktions in the video. You will know when you are maxed out if the velocity does not increase further when you turn up the hammer.

[@VikingAirgunner]

If your velocity jumps too much it might be that your reg needs new orings and lube.

[@Andytn80]

@@VikingAirgunner thank you so much for the quick response! I will try again and see

[@tommyschoubeyer7528]

Hej Peter. Har du erfaringer med at male slugs i enden, for at bedre at kunne se hvordan de flyver. Har du en ide til hvad man kan bruge. Mvh Tommy

[@VikingAirgunner]

Hej Tommy Desværre ikke. Jeg har godt nok set folk bruge malede slugs. Måske Ted Bier siger noget om det i én af sine videoer 🤔 Det er mit bedste bud 🙂

[@levyslight2511]

The right setting for fx impact m3 cal 177 with 12.5 grain nsa slug pellets.thanks you. Valve ..? Reg 1 ..? Reg 2 ..? Macro ..? Micro ..?

[@VikingAirgunner]

Start with the reg at 100 bar and then use the method from the video 🙂

[@alanbray3448]

Hi, Good video, Thanks. How does the Titan compare to Helix, Thinking of an upgrade. Thanks, Alan ,uk

[@VikingAirgunner]

Hi Alan I think that it has better calrity and tracking. Helix is not a bad scope - I have it on my Wildcat. But Titan is just a different class. I would take it any day of the week. Bigger and heavier, yes... But if thats not a problem, you should go for it 🙂

[@alanbray3448]

Thanks for reply, Enjoy your videos.@@VikingAirgunner

[@VikingAirgunner]

@@alanbray3448 Thanks Alan 👍👍

[@recklessjunkie]

So hey I was attempting to tune my m3 yesterday and I went to far with the micro adjuster “barrel roller” I went past 5 and the power wheel “macro adjuster” was at 16 so when I cocked the lever it didn’t feel right it went all the way back without that spring tension you normally feel but it also didn’t feel like it feels went you’ve already cocked the lever it’s hard to explain but anywho.. then I tryed to put it forward and it wouldn’t go so I backed off the micro adjuster “barrel roller” and it worked fine after that I don’t think I damaged anything but man I thought I did I got so scared do you know what I’m talking about ? Also have you ever done that before ? I just wanna assure myself the gun is fine thank you .

[@VikingAirgunner]

I never tried to go so far up, so I didnt experience this myself. But when you have released it again and the gun feels normal, I would not be nervous for the condition of the gun 🙂

[@vinnydub7192]

You cannot do this on the Uk sub 12 guns is that correct - by getting the fps over 900 would that increase the foot pounds over (uk 12 legal limit) ?

[@VikingAirgunner]

That is correct. A 13 gr slug at 980 fps produces 28 ft/lbs. At 900 fps it is just over 23 ft/lbs. Im using an app Bullet Energy Calculator to calculate.

[@rasmusjakobsen6708]

Hej Peter nu har jeg fulgt dig et stykke tid og jeg er også blevet en lykkelig ejer af en impact m3 Kan du huske dine indstillinger på din impact da du skød med zan 13 grain ? Mvh Rasmus

[@VikingAirgunner]

Hej Rasmus og tillykke med den nye gun 😎 Jeg går ud fra at du har fået den med 600 mm standard STX Superior. Her skyder den fint 13 gr ZAN med en reg på mellem 100 og 108 bar og en hastighed på 985 fps. Du justerer bare på hammerhjulet til du når den hastighed. Frontskruen skal bare du bare bruge, som jeg viser i videoen 🙂

[@rasmusjakobsen6708]

@@VikingAirgunner mange tak 👌 ja det har du ret i 💪🏼 vil det give mening at vælge 16 grain ? Eller skal jeg købe heavy liner der til ?

[@VikingAirgunner]

@@rasmusjakobsen6708 Folk har forskellige resultater - og forskellige præferencer. I din situation ville jeg vælge 13 gr. 16 gr går ikke så godt i superior lineren, så der ville det være en god idé at skifte til heavy liner. Jeg vil dog sige, at stabiliteten er en helt anden i heavy liner. Jeg har kun testet 13-15 gr i 600 mm heavy, men jeg er slet ikke i tvivl om, at den ville skyde fint med 16 gr. De har dem ved Krale 🙂

[@vinnydub7192]

Is this .22 rifle and what snugs are u using are they Jsb knockout ?

[@VikingAirgunner]

In this video I am using the 15 gr NSA (info at 1:10 in the video) And it is a 177 🙂

[@Eryk964]

Hi Peter I'm your fan, I have a request to add Polish language to the translator. Greetings from Poland.

[@VikingAirgunner]

Hi Aneta Thanks for following my channel 🙂 The translator function is provided from KZbin and can only be used in the language spoken, so I cant really do much about it - but it would be a nice feature 🙂 Best regards and have a nice weekend Peter

[@TsRide83]

Do one on the m3 .357 caliber

[@VikingAirgunner]

The method is exactly the same.

[@airriflehunter87]

When your closing the valve or making any adjustments, remember it’s a spring and will take time to settle . Always best to take a good few shots about 5 to allow things to settle . Otherwise you can be chasing your tale

[@stedyone1090]

Very nice 👌 👍

[@VikingAirgunner]

Thanks buddy 🙂

[@michaelhagelskjr2672]

hej viking :) du nævnte på et tidspunkt, du havde skiftet din regulator, grundet du havde skruet skruen den forkerte vej, som jeg forstod det. Tror jeg måske har gjort det samme, var ved at justere på skruen ved aftrækkerhuset, men fik den vist lige givet den et lille nøk til den forkerte vej, når jeg her efterfølgende skruer op for trykket, giver det ikke nogen hastighed på haglet, er det fordi jeg har smadret regulatoren, den forbliver på den samme hastighed ca 600fs med 90 bar 10grain selv om jeg øger trykket mvh Michael

[@VikingAirgunner]

Hej Michael Umiddelbart tænker jeg ikke, at det et problem med regulatoren. Det du ville se, ville være et stort spread og et tryk, der ville ændre sig markant(creep) , hvis du lod den stå et par dage. I øjeblikket kan der godt være en stor forskel på tryk, når du har skudt udendørs og så sætter geværet ind i et varmt hus. Og hvis du vil være helt sikker, kan du tage regulatoren ud og se, om der er et lille hul i enden af en regulatorstemplet.

[@michaelhagelskjr2672]

@@VikingAirgunner kan det så være fordi jeg satte den ned til 67 bar på 2 reg, og den har sat sig der, af en eller anden grund, for hvis jeg skyder et skud uden hagl, kan jeg høre der ikke kommer så meget luft, selv om den nu er oppe på 90 bar

[@VikingAirgunner]

@@michaelhagelskjr2672 når din 2 reg er så lav skal der ikke fyldes så meget luft mellem hvert skud, så det kan være derfor, at du ikke hører luften til plenum. Hvilken hastighed skyder du med?

[@michaelhagelskjr2672]

@@VikingAirgunner den skyder pt. Ca 600fps

[@VikingAirgunner]

@@michaelhagelskjr2672 Det lyder mærkeligt. Og der sker ikke noget, når du giver den mere hammer? Er det jsb heavy?

[@ampe1375]

Muy ,muy bueno

[@rasmusjakobsen6708]

Hej igen Peter jeg bøvler med at min impact svinger meget voldsomt i fps skudene svinger fra 977 helt op til 1016 fps skyder med zan 13 grain og det er fortsat den jeg skrev om tidligere Reg på ca 110 bar, hammer på 9 quick tune på 3 og ventilen lige omkring 4

[@VikingAirgunner]

Hvor irriterende! Hvilket løb og hvilken længde? Og hvilken transfer port er der monteret?

[@rasmusjakobsen6708]

Åhh ja det er vi helt enige om... Det er en helt std m3 600 mm

[@VikingAirgunner]

@@rasmusjakobsen6708 FX er begyndt at levere Impact med en transfer port, der har både pellet og dual hole ligesom i de større kalibre, så det er vigtigt, om du har den slags og så hvilken af dem du bruger?

[@rasmusjakobsen6708]

Den er købt d 17/11/22 ved ikke om det kan pejle nogen retning

[@rasmusjakobsen6708]

Jeg har intet ændret på den overhovedet

[@Jairajmeena1]

How much pressure gap you keep between both the regulators ?

[@VikingAirgunner]

Around 30 bar.

[@Jairajmeena1]

@@VikingAirgunner and how much pressure do you keep in the 1st regulator ?

[@VikingAirgunner]

@@Jairajmeena1 it depends on the slugs I wanna shoot.

[@robingibson7503]

That's called a socket

[@daniellewis5413]

Spot on mate