Turbo 670cc Dragster RETURNS and Runs Quickest Pass Yet!

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Our Predator 670cc powered mini dragster is back! We've made tweaks to the engine and driveline- we installed lighter weights on our Polaris 1000 clutch for more stall, played with the carburetor jetting, and we install new junior dragster front wheels to shed some weight. In all, this modified Predator 670cc v twin is running better than ever! The draw through turbocharged v twin design is still working for us while we wait on our custom fuel injection system. With more tuning, we can up our MPH to reach our goal of 6.70 ET at over 100 MPH!
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@CarsandCameras
@CarsandCameras Жыл бұрын
We were blown away by it's performance for the first run of the year!
@JamesRK2
@JamesRK2 Жыл бұрын
Imagine how much better it would be if yall fuel injected it
@Just-InTimeRepairs
@Just-InTimeRepairs Жыл бұрын
I thought you guys had 1.8 million subs? Now I'm seeing 1.1m.
@seano2178
@seano2178 Жыл бұрын
Add 3ozs of Marvel Mystery oil to the tank when you run the methanol. It will protect the valve guides in the motor and the slide valve in the carb plus pickup close to a point or so in compression.
@Copperworks.
@Copperworks. Жыл бұрын
what happened to the riding mower that the 670 was on i started watching when you where building that and you guys are the reason that I'm into go carts and mini bikes
@87mustang87
@87mustang87 Жыл бұрын
Track will probably stop u at 7.0 in the 8th due to needing a thicker frame an cage around driver.
@BobbyOfEarth
@BobbyOfEarth Жыл бұрын
If you guys switch to Fuel injection, the controller will monitor and adjust the fuel delivery to balance the EGT's of both cylinders. Plus to get max Hp...
@_CryptoNoob_
@_CryptoNoob_ Жыл бұрын
Or just switch that junk motor out
@Rattus-Norvegicus
@Rattus-Norvegicus Жыл бұрын
They should take it to RobotCantina so he can do the conversion.
@aeroflopper
@aeroflopper Жыл бұрын
​@nathenandrew hes a good fabricator but power and speed is not his thing.
@rad8078
@rad8078 Жыл бұрын
I think they were gonna put a haltech ecu on it
@Rattus-Norvegicus
@Rattus-Norvegicus Жыл бұрын
@@aeroflopper Tell that to the "Turbocharged Intercooled Fuel-injected 670 CC BIG BLOCK" going into the Insight. Edit* I'm positive I messed that up, somebody with a better memory fix that please.
@marcmo7138
@marcmo7138 Жыл бұрын
Best sounding exhaust of all of your projects.
@KillaMTB
@KillaMTB Жыл бұрын
The dragster is my favourite vehicle in the fleet it’s why I subbed to the channel I can’t wait for you to run that 100mph in the 1/8th mile
@minties51
@minties51 Жыл бұрын
i’ve been a fan since 400k subs, and i’m really impressed with the transition from building ludicrous go karts to building these absolute beasts! you guys are incredible!
@fortyfukinseven
@fortyfukinseven Жыл бұрын
Absolutely no idea sub numbers, but somewhere around 2018!
@Moss-34
@Moss-34 Жыл бұрын
​@@fortyfukinsevenha same but my old acc got deleted
@Rattus-Norvegicus
@Rattus-Norvegicus Жыл бұрын
@@fortyfukinseven Was it pre-lawnmower flip?
@freedomforourfallen3755
@freedomforourfallen3755 Жыл бұрын
I’ve raced 2.3l. Fords. Dirt track. The fuel would sling real bad. We put in sheet medal. Bent it to make each cylinder get the same amount of fuel. I do like this build. So sexy
@Amenhir1
@Amenhir1 Жыл бұрын
I just ordered my first t-shirt. It's the first time I've ever ordered youtube merch. Thanks for the years of fun videos. Next stop 2 million subs!
@LuxGamer16
@LuxGamer16 Жыл бұрын
I nearly lost hope for a video of it again. Glad its back.
@agkracing140
@agkracing140 Жыл бұрын
With the popularity of electric cars growing, kids of the future may never know that incredible feeling when your project engine fires up!
@flightpath22
@flightpath22 Жыл бұрын
Congrats all on an excellent effort all the way around. Also, congrats Charles on a spectacular first run on asphalt, GREAT photo…that’s a keeper! Good to see everyone having fun and able to do so safely. Keep up the great work and content, way to go boys!
@lukefrost1189
@lukefrost1189 Жыл бұрын
Glad to see the rail back again, can't wait to see it run when you've got the fuelling sorted.
@harryjohnson2
@harryjohnson2 Жыл бұрын
FINALLY! This is what the people have been waiting for. This is by far my favorite project
@TekedixXx
@TekedixXx Жыл бұрын
So excited to see another vid on this beast. Idk why this project of all of your projects is the one that captivates me the most...
@Tater79bj
@Tater79bj Жыл бұрын
I think Charles should start his own channel. I'd totally watch it 🤟
@skater4life2360
@skater4life2360 Жыл бұрын
one of my fav projects you guys are working on. that v twin thump, the horsepower, and the speed in a straight line... all from a mower engine! well done, can't wait to see the tuning buttoned up and the 6.70 et :)))
@eckdirtbiking5113
@eckdirtbiking5113 Жыл бұрын
Yes I’ve been wanting to see this back for a while 🎉
@toreyweaver9708
@toreyweaver9708 Жыл бұрын
20:38 that thing moves out! Holy cow the drag rail has come a long way. Please keep improving on it. Love to see the progress. 💯🤘
@lilldebby2592
@lilldebby2592 Жыл бұрын
No way y’all are at my home track Piedmont dragway 🤙🏻 hope to see y’all there one day
@gorkuhmork
@gorkuhmork Жыл бұрын
A steal screen inside the intake before the split in the cylinders will help with fule atomization
@JamesRK2
@JamesRK2 Жыл бұрын
Old school hot rod trick, but makes a massive difference
@fastflat4
@fastflat4 Жыл бұрын
I'm sure not all will agree, I love these videos of crazy drag builds and what not. But I miss the old smaller realistic builds for the grand pre. The average fan can't custom fab, but we can buy a go kart and do all the bolt on mod fun like the older videos. Either way. Always a fan and will watch all the videos
@thomaskrehbiel2946
@thomaskrehbiel2946 Жыл бұрын
“It will be fine”. You guys crack me up!!
@joshuabuilds3051
@joshuabuilds3051 Жыл бұрын
Thats 6 pounds of rotational mass. Much more significant than other weight savings.
@hemidart7
@hemidart7 Жыл бұрын
Charles the first person to ever go down a track with his tool belt still on🤣
@cliffhooper3558
@cliffhooper3558 Жыл бұрын
Nope.. did that in '99
@hemidart7
@hemidart7 Жыл бұрын
@@cliffhooper3558 You want a ribbon or something? do you feel left out?🤨👏
@zanderx7
@zanderx7 Жыл бұрын
@@cliffhooper3558did u do it in a custom 1:1 drag rail tho? Didn’t think so hemidart7
@terminalpsychosis8022
@terminalpsychosis8022 Жыл бұрын
The green drag machine is legend. Running better than ever too, after a few bumps. Just gonna get better.
@mixerman1
@mixerman1 Жыл бұрын
I have loved this thing from the getgo. I wish it had a draw through supercharger and EFI. I bet Charles was in the 9's at around 70mph
@kcrichton7485
@kcrichton7485 Жыл бұрын
I love that you guys are still building this, you should do ceramic bearings in the wheels and axles etc next, its hardcore enough for it
@mychaleporter6806
@mychaleporter6806 Жыл бұрын
Also needs a velocity stack....filter constricting n crunching
@dwartfarquart9590
@dwartfarquart9590 Жыл бұрын
You can buy k&n filters with an internal velocity stack in various sizes. When I ran motorcycle dirt track, they made a significant difference in midrange performance.
@FeatheredDino
@FeatheredDino Жыл бұрын
For the blow by issues causing oil to spew into the intake, you could try venting the dipstick. Drill a hole, thread in a 3/8 hose fitting (or whatever size you want) and run a fuel line up high somewhere. That'll help alleviate a lot of the pressure that is causing oil to be forced out the crankcase breather and into the intake..
@HellmuthsHotRods
@HellmuthsHotRods Жыл бұрын
I think the car is pretty well set up based on the ET vs MPH. I have been racing my bug in 1/8 mile for decades from as slow as 9s, up to 7.30s (NA) and as I said your ET/MPH is right on. ET is generally an indicator of chassis setup, MPH power. My best is 7.37 at 92, so I think your 6.70 to 100 is close. I think that will be a bit over 100 mph actually. It's fun to widdle away time like this!
@JohnHill-jm7tm
@JohnHill-jm7tm Жыл бұрын
This Old Man from Washington NC always enjoying your videos 👍. Love you Guys. 🛵🧔💝💝💝
@KENNETHREAGAN
@KENNETHREAGAN Жыл бұрын
I can’t wait to see what you do with the drag racer, but honestly I want to see you put a flat track tire on that minibike and a wheelie bar and see what Charles can really do
@bigunone
@bigunone Жыл бұрын
I still say you need to adapt a more tuneable carb something that flows more CFM with more jets available
@j.w.3345
@j.w.3345 Жыл бұрын
Love that rail!! I know you’re going to hit that perfect combo/setting. It’s got more to give!
@kno3me-wz3bo
@kno3me-wz3bo Жыл бұрын
It's blowing out the spark up top power. Ya can hear it
@kyleewert5630
@kyleewert5630 Жыл бұрын
DUAL CARBS. Equal fueling, ability to get the engine the fuel it needs since you have been lean all along and drilling jets and choking the air down to compensate
@oldcars46
@oldcars46 Жыл бұрын
I really enjoy your show. The guys are out there. Having fun and doing the best you can and get good speeds. Keep up the good work. Great show
@jesperwall839
@jesperwall839 Жыл бұрын
Yeah. Also much smaller carbs, so they can get more fuel and higher airspeed. Methanol requires 3 times as much fuel as petrol. 12:1 for petrol, and 4:1 for methanol. You also need different spark plugs when running methanol.
@adamr9215
@adamr9215 Жыл бұрын
Dual carbs won’t help when they are both running through a single turbo. They would probably have more problems if they tried to go to a blow thru set up. They would be better off putting an EFI set up on it.
@ogrefreak5222
@ogrefreak5222 Жыл бұрын
​@adamr9215 of course they would, but that's a project for later. And you can dual carb. It's called a blow through. Not ideal to split the turbo output to two possibly leaky carbs but certainly doable. It's closed loop so pressure would be roughly equal. Heck twin turbo, crossover exhaust (turbo feeds opposite cylinder). That would be something interesting lol
@adamr9215
@adamr9215 Жыл бұрын
@@ogrefreak5222 You aren’t that smart, are you? I mentioned blow through carbs, so don’t go acting like I didn’t. Also, to go twin turbo, they would need to find even smaller turbos to spool decent.
@gavincline209
@gavincline209 Жыл бұрын
I’d say get a stand alone wideband O2 sensor and data logger onto a SD card if nothing else. It will show you pretty good where ya need to adjust the fueling to on a pass. Meth is tricky, very easy to run too lean and blow it up in an instant.
@rayleon8861
@rayleon8861 Жыл бұрын
Great Job, need to change the air filter too restricted.
@andrewcammer2535
@andrewcammer2535 Жыл бұрын
The 670 dragster is CRYING for fuel injection! 6.70 is a LONG ways from 7.70s. I wanna see you do it, but I think you'll find it's a heck of a jump!
@nickmassey9104
@nickmassey9104 Жыл бұрын
That rails awesome .Charles did good. John for designated drag race pilot
@Jakefrc
@Jakefrc Жыл бұрын
EFI will really bring that thing to life
@100mpgus
@100mpgus Жыл бұрын
The dragster videos are the best videos you have. I love it.
@P8FPV
@P8FPV Жыл бұрын
Great stuff nice to see both run together
@darrellkelly7614
@darrellkelly7614 Жыл бұрын
And the legend of Mr C. gets deeper all the time. Oregon approves!
@CLCIII
@CLCIII Жыл бұрын
EFI ON A MOTEC OR HOLLEY OR FUELTECH AND in mid to low 7's for sure! Possibly your 6:70 @ 100+! I WANNA SEE IT! As Always, May God Bless you and yours! 😇
@toomuchtracy
@toomuchtracy Жыл бұрын
Yes!! Always look forward to watching you guys
@thatonecarguy5999
@thatonecarguy5999 Жыл бұрын
I just can't get passed the rail sitting there and idling. It's so mesmerizing, it sounds amazing
@adrianortegaofficial
@adrianortegaofficial Жыл бұрын
Charles got the temu pit vipers 😂 awesome video
@jdshanahan4215
@jdshanahan4215 Жыл бұрын
You guys should sponsor a local kid that drives a jr dragster. Like build them a quality race engine for their class and they can rock you decals.
@shrapnut7612
@shrapnut7612 Жыл бұрын
Great vid guys, I was hoping it would be on this rail, after seeing the teaser from last week.
@ericraherimanjato9688
@ericraherimanjato9688 Жыл бұрын
It just keeps getting better every time love it ❤
@user-yg1uw5lo1n
@user-yg1uw5lo1n Жыл бұрын
I watched a guy balance fuel by mounting a fin under the carb inside the intake. With a few snips and bends and by checking exhaust temps he got it "good enuff til the next race".
@Jon_Flys_RC
@Jon_Flys_RC Жыл бұрын
If you run into a clutching dead end reach out to heel clicker clutching. When it comes to snowmobile / cvt transmission systems they are infinitely adjustable in multiple points of the shift curve.
@jamesmower1852
@jamesmower1852 Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 the best I ever that Hayabusa taking off and then Charles pulling up behind it with his mini bike I love it 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍🔥🔥💯
@ronniedale6040
@ronniedale6040 Жыл бұрын
I tried the mc carb thing on draw through VWs take it from me the best thing you can do is throw a Weber idf on there in a blow through configuration with a divided intake. I made zero carb mods to mine for boost. Easier to tune and your fuel robbing issues for the second cylinder will be completely cured. You may also be overpowering the needle and seat on that bike carb. When they say gravity feed only they mean it.
@Bikliy
@Bikliy Жыл бұрын
Been watching you for 7years omg time flys
@rickigunter1960
@rickigunter1960 Жыл бұрын
I have been watching you all for a while and I think you're working your way up a little bit at a time to top fuel drag racing
@sandyv4819
@sandyv4819 Жыл бұрын
I'm waiting for the day I see a V8 cart. Maybe they'll start small with a V6 lol
@AndyKPOV
@AndyKPOV Жыл бұрын
They do small engines now...
@Blurgamer17
@Blurgamer17 Жыл бұрын
I think a dual-carb or EFI setup would be the way to go from here to allow your rail to breathe better than ever. This has always been a great build over the years and it can still go a long way.
@WingmanJohnny
@WingmanJohnny Жыл бұрын
Super cool yins guys. Keep up the great work
@jonathancrissinger2301
@jonathancrissinger2301 Жыл бұрын
Looking good guys. Always fun to watch. Be safe and have fun.
@ChrisRollins
@ChrisRollins Жыл бұрын
This channel is just great
@trojan6530
@trojan6530 Жыл бұрын
My favorite of all your content....Thanks guys!!👍🙂
@olekaarvaag9405
@olekaarvaag9405 Жыл бұрын
YESSS!!!! My favourite build is back
@jeffmurphree2937
@jeffmurphree2937 Жыл бұрын
OUTSTANDING!!! Have you considered having a car body back from the fire wall around the driver? You could add a cool paint job on it!
@aleks_jones
@aleks_jones Жыл бұрын
Finally! Been waiting for this moment for what seems like forever! Keep up the good work bois
@yellowflyer37
@yellowflyer37 Жыл бұрын
Hey guys, love what you have going here. Just some thought on your fuel distribution issues, having a largger intake manifold would help. The bigger the plenum volume (aka) "bucket" the cylinders can draw from would mix fuel better in your application and the cylinders will always have "literally" as much air as they will need. Boost (pressure) is importand AS WELL as the quantity avalible.
@michaeljoeallen9412
@michaeljoeallen9412 Жыл бұрын
Cool! Sounds awesome.
@michaelcrebbin7328
@michaelcrebbin7328 Жыл бұрын
Awesome boys it was great to see the dragger run again with sick times great job looking forward to the next vid 🥰🥰🥰
@micahhittinger6083
@micahhittinger6083 Жыл бұрын
Losing that catch can lid tells me that boost was going around the piston rings. I had a 91 turbo Eagle Talon that would pop the dipstick out because it needed a rebuild. That was on stock boost.
@csandy500
@csandy500 Жыл бұрын
I told you guys you were loosing spark last season. Look at your old night run videos and you can see this thing sparking on the dash. Good run!!
@erikcourtney1834
@erikcourtney1834 Жыл бұрын
If y’all would up the rpm’s at the line it would wheelie better and would definitely 60’ way better. Don’t leave the line with little to no rpm, especially with a turbo. If you can’t hold it still do dual brakes on the rear or raise the stall more.
@timbrindley451
@timbrindley451 Жыл бұрын
we have drag racing here in south east of fort worth off mansfield hwy
@hobbs37110
@hobbs37110 Жыл бұрын
im ready to see the new rail run boys.
@AndrewSkingsley-t6b
@AndrewSkingsley-t6b Жыл бұрын
Great to see the rail back !!!
@BIllMcCambridge
@BIllMcCambridge Жыл бұрын
Great job guys. I like the idea of changing to blow through carb. The meth will cool the hot turbo air. And you will get better air/fuel distribution. You may wanna put an air fuel data logger or egt data logger. Yall are guessing whats wrong. You need data to make gains. Love the channel Thanks for sharing your talents and adventures!!!
@jasonpetrich4141
@jasonpetrich4141 Жыл бұрын
So you guys need to build a test hit lane out on the back 40. So you can test the rail before you get to the track and what ever else you might need to test on a drag lane 🤔 😏!!!!
@SheDevilsGarage
@SheDevilsGarage Жыл бұрын
Congrats to Charles and carsandcameras
@RattleCanCustoms89
@RattleCanCustoms89 Жыл бұрын
When you gonna bring back the rotax 670 go kart? Probably my favorite project of yours
@johnmorgan1629
@johnmorgan1629 Жыл бұрын
Congrats on not being the ones who oiled the track down, but someone did.
@pekkahelminen7801
@pekkahelminen7801 Жыл бұрын
Methanol needs much more power from ignition system. Its like 2times more fuel... its pretty "wet" in the cylinders. More ignition power to run methanol...
@bubbakushingtonIII
@bubbakushingtonIII Жыл бұрын
These track videos I can't get enough of.
@robertduvall7392
@robertduvall7392 Жыл бұрын
Been watching since the beginning. I LOVE this! Awesome!
@jaredmcquiniff5362
@jaredmcquiniff5362 Жыл бұрын
You’re killing it guys! Awesome video
@electrogeek1124
@electrogeek1124 Жыл бұрын
Need to put the carb after the turbo. I believe the centrifugal force the turbo puts on the air as it passes through separates the air and fuel mix and causes the fuel to go into one side.
@Kasper88-disclose
@Kasper88-disclose Жыл бұрын
I love watching the rail on the dragstrip keep that content coming and I will always watch and like guys. You guys are awesome
@slamboy66
@slamboy66 Жыл бұрын
Just like when I tune Harleys, you have to fatten up the rear Jug . More fuel cools it down the rear cylinder. You need dual carbs. 👍👍👍
@gumbysenduro6546
@gumbysenduro6546 Жыл бұрын
Sweeeet been looking forward to this for a while now awesome first run.
@Xxjoker21xX
@Xxjoker21xX Жыл бұрын
The Angle you have the turbo Firing into the cylinders is why the Rear cylinder is getting more air than fuel! Straighten it into the intake to equally ! its Science Engines work better with Balance...
@somenygaard
@somenygaard Жыл бұрын
You tell ‘em! Obviously you know what you’re talking about, science!
@lonestarracingenginesgokar2202
@lonestarracingenginesgokar2202 Жыл бұрын
I remember you getting those front wheels at Pate!! They look good !!!
@houseoffire72
@houseoffire72 Жыл бұрын
Well done guys
@starfox9818
@starfox9818 Жыл бұрын
I always love Ike's energy ❤
@danielfrazier840
@danielfrazier840 Жыл бұрын
Also the Jr dragster rack and pinion turn pretty sharp
@dakotafox617
@dakotafox617 Жыл бұрын
When boosting small engines it is really beneficial to have some sort of intake plenum volume so you have equal fuel distribution and intake pressure for both cylinders
@hokirwinsor8775
@hokirwinsor8775 Жыл бұрын
Only really necessary on a single cylinder motor
@Huntinghogs
@Huntinghogs Жыл бұрын
Have ya’ll thought about using a downdraft Webber with a split plenum intake? Might help with fuel delivery to each cylinder. Might be easier to set it up as a blow through instead of a pull through.
@JayDayMoney
@JayDayMoney Жыл бұрын
Really need a 🧯at the rear where you located just for safety everybody looking past that just me tho‼️
@Thomas63r2
@Thomas63r2 Жыл бұрын
If you do get a 6.7x e.t., I would expect at least ~ 102 to 103 mph. Good luck - and I can't believe how good it sounds, it will sound even sweeter when you get it running right.
@reviewaccount469
@reviewaccount469 Жыл бұрын
Definitely starting to miss that 2nd video per week more these days. I still think C&C should consider doing more live talk show/Q&A/interviews stuff at night as filler, at least monthly if not bi-weekly.
@320_allstar
@320_allstar Жыл бұрын
Been waiting for this for a while 😂
@adammartin1786
@adammartin1786 Жыл бұрын
Well time to separate each bank and do twin carb and twin turbos to fix the flooding one cylinder 😂
@AdamOpheim
@AdamOpheim Жыл бұрын
Might try a flat steel divider right after the carb. Similar to the turbo carb hats they use. Helps divert fuel and air equally to both cyls and would be quick and easy to install. also boost is gonna pressurize the crank case. YOu don't want to plumb that back into the intake. Get a good catch can and you don't need to plumb it back to the intake. Good luck!
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