Turbo Miata Kraken low mount vs Flyin Miata Manifold review

[@1knowsnothing1]

This was wonderfully informative. Although a pain in the ass to install with AC & PS, you’ve really helped me see the feasibility of fitting it with AC. Subscribed 👍

[@CarGuyFridays]

Awesome thanks!!! It's worth the hassle it's a great kit

[@HardwayLearning]

Man I never thought about how difficult the low mount would be to install 😬

[@CarGuyFridays]

Yea, it can be a pain in the butt the first time. I've had it out again because I went with a 2867 and it's not as bad now that I know all the tricks so to speak. It's worth the effort trust me.

[@quadrapodacone]

I don't know how I just found your channel now, but I'm stoked I did. You guys are awesome!

[@CarGuyFridays]

Glad you enjoyed it! Share with your friends if you enjoy it. Seeing peoples enjoyment is what keeps us doing it because it takes a long time to edit this stuff

[@andrewshaffer4250]

Mike and I speak often! I made 404whp on my built 1.6 with the EFR6258 👌🏻

[@CarGuyFridays]

Yesssss!!! That is sick

[@StyxHackshop]

Hey mate - great video, cheers. I'm in the process of building up a BP here for install into a NA6. Watching this makes me real happy I've removed AC/PS/p much everything not 'necessary'

[@CarGuyFridays]

It makes it easier for sure. Having AC when its 95* sure is nice though

[@StyxHackshop]

@@CarGuyFridays between the boost and the Australian summers, this is going to be a 'dry winter' car!

[@CarGuyFridays]

If you can make it work not having all that stuff makes it so much easier to work in the bay that's for sure!

[@danesyoutubeaccount7603]

Awesome video, thanks for sharing!

[@CarGuyFridays]

Yw!

[@baltod4978]

Thanks SO much for this video! I have a 97NA w/ the FM S1 kit- and was wondering what the difference would be, and now I know! Could you tell me who made the cold side pipe going into your TB? I'm looking to change out the silicone hose with something more permanent as well as run a different BOV than the one FM provides. Thanks so much!

[@CarGuyFridays]

You're welcome! All intercooler piping was done in house custom by the CGF channel guys

[@JamieRuinsEverything]

looking to get this over the FM kit. the FM kit comes with everything you need even some of the tools. What about this kit? also Kraken is based over seas is that going to make it more expensive to ship? I will say I like the manifold and the turbo placement way better over the FM kit

[@CarGuyFridays]

FM makes a great kit. But the Kraken is much more efficient and the low mount is less heat in the engine bay. You can get the kraken as a kit as well with everything. Shipping times even though Kraken is overseas are still very fast.

[@beejhay1234]

Hi, i have a 99nb1 and i am looking towards boosted turbo- any help would help- i have headers,dp,exhaust, rubber, coilovers,mishimoto rad and fan, kobalt reroute.... where do i start and what would i need- kraken sounds great!!!!

[@CarGuyFridays]

Suggest you look into a standalone as your next mod. It'll let you learn how to use it without having a turbo. Megasquirt 3 is popular on miatas and works well!

[@scottmason2245]

Looks cool, but is it truly worth the headache? I installed the fm turbo kits and it wssnt very damn fun at all. Not sure I'd wanna make that job harder.

[@CarGuyFridays]

It's not that much of a headache. +40whp over a FM kit at the same boost ... definitely worth it in my book but there is nothing wrong with the FM stuff

[@scottmason2245]

@@CarGuyFridays I've heard good stuff about the kraken manifold. I guess it must be true. Crazy to think a manifold could do such a thing.

[@CarGuyFridays]

It is, but you see the proof :)

[@SuperDorkenstein]

Great video, keep it up

[@CarGuyFridays]

Thanks so much for the support

[@billybobbubbawubba9457]

I came for the Camaro, stayed for the Miata. I have have both! My Miata has a T25 turbo, I think I can do better.

[@CarGuyFridays]

I hope the miata videos help :)

[@ruffus4924]

Are you located in kentucky? If so do you recommend any places with a dynojet I have a 94 bp4w with a 2560r

[@CarGuyFridays]

Yep we are in louisville. Blevins has a dynojet. Check out the miata dyno kzbin.info/www/bejne/hZ_KhIVtq6elm8k it was at blevins. Lots of people love dynasty as well.

[@mariusbrinzaru8137]

Does the Kraken vs G19 worth the extra money for going with a T25 GT 2554R Turbo ?

[@CarGuyFridays]

I think so!

[@mariusbrinzaru8137]

@@CarGuyFridays what is the reason you think that ? :D

[@CarGuyFridays]

The g19 manifold appears to be a near log style manifold. That means it likely wont flow as well as the kraken you see in this video. Thatll result in slower spool up, and more heat in the cylinders. That means slower spool and less timing on pump gas. So less power too, or at least let less margin of safety from knock. The turbo manifold (and turbo) are the heart of the entire system. I'd go for the best you can afford there. Everything else is relatively easy to upgrade or swap out later.

[@loddy210]

What does Mike think about running this setup for endurance racing. I've been against putting a turbo on our 99 because of the heat. Does a low mount create less heat?

[@CarGuyFridays]

This manifold design flows better so less heat will stay in the engine. Being able to bump ign timing without knock is a really strong indicator that's happening. This also puts the turbo low which makes it easy to move air out of the engine bay and a straighter downpipe to also help get heat out of there. You'll still struggle with heat in an enduro track setup and need a heck of a radiator setup though. Ultimately heat is a function of power generated and more power means more heat.

[@btw985]

Looks to offer good protection from gloves getting sucked into the compressor

[@CarGuyFridays]

LMFAO, yes only the best. Ironically that turbo just blew up the other day.

[@richardpettingfield4380]

I think I’m gonna end up pulling the trigger on this mani. The FM log is gonna have to go. Did you order through the Kraken website? Also, did you learn to tune on your Miata or you have prior experience with other cars? I would like to tune my miata but I lack the confidence since I’ve never tuned before

[@CarGuyFridays]

Good call! Ordered from the kraken site. I've over a decade of tuning experience, although most of it had been on miatas.

[@LocoRocoNL]

Sick!

[@CarGuyFridays]

Hell yes, this setup is sick. We just got back from tail of the dragon ( video coming) and the car and setup performed flawlessly.

[@LocoRocoNL]

@@CarGuyFridays Good to hear! Appreciate the reply, more Miata content is always more then welcome, you guys had a good time there?

[@CarGuyFridays]

Dude it's amazing there. I haven't seen better roads anywhere in the USA. Maybe out west but if you are on the east coast this is the spot

[@dan_the_drifter321]

Great video, I've just bought an mx5 turbo after nearly 10 years with a 200sx s14 and mine happens to come with a FM manifold. Mine is making much less power though, around the 200hp mark so don't know if the improvements will be quite as noticeable if I swapped it out, something to think about in the future though, did you ever get yours to the dyno to check what power it made? Cheers

[@CarGuyFridays]

Still havent made it to the dyno unfortunately. At that power level I'd guess itll be slightly less relevant. I have another buddy with the same manifold at that power level and the biggest thing weve noticed is how the exhuast note changed. It doesnt sound like a typical turbo miata it's much closer to a turbo honda or sport bike in exhuast pulse smoothness. We are guessing because the runners are much closer to equal length vs the fm manifold being a better version of a log manifold.

[@TheW3s]

Any experience with the ISR kit??

[@CarGuyFridays]

Unfortunately no, no experience. Both the FM and kraken setups are pretty good, would have a hard time going for something else without significant reasoning

[@rezi420]

What strut brace do you run that has a master cylinder stopper?

[@CarGuyFridays]

I custom modified it to have the stopper. It's a generic no name one from ebay though

[@rezi420]

@@CarGuyFridays Thanks for responding, much appreciated

[@CarGuyFridays]

No problem. Good luck in the hunt!

[@raviolitrail]

Mike! Mike! Mike!

[@CarGuyFridays]

Always loved that commercial!

[@PanditaP]

What is the benefit of low mount?

[@CarGuyFridays]

Straighter downpipe exit, prettier engine bay, lower weight is better for handling, and the design of this specific manifold is better from the runners perspective. Having used this manifold, I wouldnt use anything else to turbo a miata

[@PanditaP]

What is the benefit of low mount.

[@CarGuyFridays]

Straighter downpipe, prettier, better runner design, lower center of gravity for handling

[@DiscoMiata]

Were you able to keep A/C?

[@CarGuyFridays]

Yep ac is a tight fit but it's still there and working

[@mr.adventure559]

So the Kraken turbo manifold is the way to go. And a Borg Werner turbocharger is better than the Garrett.

[@CarGuyFridays]

Hard to say any of that with 100% certainty for all situations. But, we really like the kraken design over other designs yeah. Borg Warner vs Garrett will be a forever debate in the turbo world!

[@DiscoMiata]

What turbo are you using?

[@CarGuyFridays]

It's a GTX 2867r gen2. In this video it was the GTX 2860 but it failed so I went sightly bigger

[@DiscoMiata]

@@CarGuyFridays did you use the kracken 3" intercooler?

[@CarGuyFridays]

It's a custom garett core we bought and mounted. I'm sure kraken intercooler is top notch after seeing the rest of the kit though

[@DiscoMiata]

@@CarGuyFridays I’m trying to use a/c, how custom was your pipes?

[@CarGuyFridays]

Well, custom as in buy some aluminum bends and cut and weld them in a route that fits. So. Pretty custom in general. Not sure if there are off the shelve ones that would work, youd think so since keeping ac isnt some kind of unique desire

[@DiscoMiata]

Were you able to keep a/c?

[@CarGuyFridays]

Yep I still have ac on the car. It's a tight fit but it works.

[@bakamotorworks505]

Ugh curse that craftsman torque wrench. Thing broke a stud on my BMW waterpump. Trash that thing asap

[@CarGuyFridays]

In its defense I was going way over mazdas recommendations for the head. Curse the higher torque values of those studs!