Warning: Overseeding Bermuda with Ryegrass For Winter

If you have Bermudagrass in your lawn and summer is coming to an end then you have a couple major decisions to make that will significantly affect your lawn now, over winter, and in the spring!
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[@gerradgeorge5148]

LITERALLY about to purchase my rye and see your new video. Ok I’ll watch lol

[@TurfMechanic]

Hope it helps! Leave any questions below and I'll answer in depth asap.

[@Zen_space]

Awesome video bro. I love how Bermuda grass is able to fill in. There’s a ton of it on my campus and I’ve watched it go dormant and wake back up. It’s pretty amazing how resilient it is

[@enzomoya1689]

I was reading the label for Barricade pre-emergent and it says you CAN do both! 6 to 8 weeks before putting rye seed or after seeding when the root is in the 2nd inch of dirt. Im in Bakersfield so my rye dies out on its own.

[@XC2long4u]

I'm planning on doing a mix of tall fescue and perennial rye. I might get some fine fescue for the 100% shade areas but I don't like how different it looks with the other grasses. I'm in the Sacramento area and we hit 110°+ in July. My neighbor's house has 100% dallisgrass coverage. She's letting me kill off her lawn and re-seed. If the Bermuda dies off I can take plugs from my lawn and put them in her lawn next summer.

[@Zen_space]

If the temps get that hot on the regular I would suggest having a solid watering schedule would be your best bet. That way you can still go with the grass you want. That watering schedules gotta be tight though.

[@nicknova703]

@@XC2long4u man dallis grass is the devil, what are you killing it with?

[@XC2long4u]

@@nicknova703 Glyphosate 41%. Unfortunately the only herbicide that will target it specifically is banned for use outside golf courses.

[@Job-e9c]

If you're planning to keep bermuda in that lawn space, have you thought about killing off the bermuda you have and overseeding with a cold, tolerant, hybrid bermuda grass like Northbridge Bermuda grass?

[@conradcomics]

Oklahoma here, and fact. In the last week of December, there's been a deep, devastating frost the last two years I've been here and I'm banking on a third. The first 'frost' is Mid-November, but that usually just takes out the crabgrass and makes the Nutsedges pop their chutes and go dormant.

[@austinedwards9889]

Can you seed Bermuda with good results? I currently have a fescue (k31/clover) lawn, which looks great fall-spring, but I am looking to switch to a more heat/drought summer turf. I live in northern ca. 530

[@jon9509]

If your k31 is coming out of dormancy in the fall just fine I wouldn't go bermuda. You're unlikely to ever be able to come back completely from that decision and there are plenty of newer varieties of cool season grass, especially tall fescues, with great drought / heat tolerance.

[@austinedwards9889]

@jon9509 I'm leaning towards something that goes dormant in the cooler months vs the summer. Where I live it gets over a 100 degrees for a month straight. It gets really expensive trying to give it enough water to stay alive and be usable. Approximately 6,500 square feet

[@DirtygardenCA]

check out Tahoma 31 hybrid Bermuda. Has great cold and heat tolerance.

[@nicknova703]

I would go sodded Bermuda, it’s just 20 times better than any seed, Yukon is a seed I’ve heard that has cold tolerance

[@gerradgeorge5148]

So couple of things now that I’ve watched. I’m actually doing perennial rye overseed on my Bermuda backyard. I’m thinking I’ll scalp it down in a week or 2 and end my Bermuda in the back early for the season to give the rye more time. Perineal should be stronger over winter right? I know it will also be harder to kill too? But if. Scalp the rye down and use a selective herbicide in say late March, early April when my Bermuda normally comes out of dormancy, will I have similar issues? Or does perineal behave differently? Also with your cutting Bermuda at different heights, what effect on dormancy would you think that would have? Will tall Bermuda go dormant first or would short ?

[@nicknova703]

@@gerradgeorge5148 I would think shorter Bermuda would be the way to go, especially in cooler weather it’ll have less insulation plus you want to cut it shorter for your overseed to grow in fuller. If you keep the dormant grass there your new grass is gonna have less space to fill in and it’ll look thatchy

[@Kenneth_R]

I live in Denver and I absolutely hate Bermuda. Inherited a mess of a lawn with tons of common bermuda all over and its just nightmare to get rid of. Even if you kill it all, the stolons are thick all over the place and will absolutely jam up even powerful gas powered tillers. Just an absolute mess. Never using a grass with stolons around here, ever.

[@nicknova703]

Dang I didn’t realize you had common Bermuda.

[@TurfMechanic]

I've been running Bermuda in the main front yard only. Gotten rid of nearly 100% of it on the parkway strip which is Buffalograss and the side lawn by my driveway which is Kentucky Bluegrass. I'm not sure if I'll start renovating the front yard next year or just keep the Bermuda there for another season. I still have to renovate the backyard to fescue so basically I'm just running a hodgepodge of grasses over here. :)

[@nicknova703]

@@TurfMechanic same, I have every grass known in my yard, just killed some centipede that was in my yard forever, overseeding it now but will probably plug it with Bermuda sod I have growing in from my neighbors yard. You should try mixing Bluemuda together in the front yard, common non-sod type Bermuda is just so coarse , I know it’s mostly what I have.