Turning your lightsaber off mid-combat

What if Jedi and Sith just turned off their lightsabers in the middle of a duel? Seems like it would be a winning strategy!
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[@MatthewMcCleskey]

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[@gregorycourtney6942]

"I'm not attached to the normal lightsaber curriculum" is such great writing for Anakin, I love it!

[@hamshankscps1049]

That made me burst out laughing

[@christopherwilkey3377]

he isn't attached to his arms or legs either the next time they fight

[@thewhitewolf58]

I mean your able to instantly retract your sword only a fool would say they are above that.

[@06kid]

Luke: y'know what I'm not even attached to the lightsaber

[@viddog6457]

E

[@maltheopia]

I love Anakin in these skits. It increasingly feels like Anakin realizes that playing along with the intended moral arc of his universe won't get him anywhere.

[@mattwo7]

More of the intended moral arc of the Jedi Council. That was kind of the point of how they fell from their own hubris.

[@cawsomeaolin]

also fits with his whole arc throughout the movies

[@АнтонЛюбимов-ф9ю]

"I would be teaching all the younglings a lesson" I died on this one

[@ZIGMER]

This! I think many people missed the joke on this one😂

[@TheInfamousBertman]

So did they

[@amonix39]

why, you're young?

[@justinvansoest7216]

so did the younglings...

[@stezzaplays3979]

so did the younglings 😂

[@brendan9868]

“Jedi aren’t supposed to have attachments, I’m not attached to the normal lightsaber curriculum” is such a good line tbh

[@UraniumWolfy]

Ikr the other guy that posted this 4 days before you thought so aswell

[@brendan9868]

@@UraniumWolfy other guy?

[@Solocase]

@@UraniumWolfyfr, bro just stole the meaning of that comment to get YT comment clout 😭💀

[@hunterlg13]

​@Solocase Indeed he most certainly must have stolen the idea. For the notion of him having had the same idea himself is most simplesteredly impossible.

[@Tropicality.]

@@Solocaseslow

[@JakeBaldwin1]

I love that this only works because half the time in lightsaber duels they are aiming for each other's blades instead of the guy behind it.

[@GearyDigit]

That is a big part of fencing, though, if you just strike at your opponent you're apt to be parried and countered while you're off-foot, so a lot of fights consist of striking one another's weapons to try and create an opening.

[@JakeBaldwin1]

@@GearyDigit If they were fencing, sure, but in star wars they often use their swords with two hands and make use of heavy strikes. And I assume if you want to follow up after smacking their weapon to the side you can't put too much force behind the blow like they do, or else your momentum will carry you too far.

[@TVNDRA]

@@JakeBaldwin1it depends on the choreography tbh. The recent Ashoka series focuses a lot on more realistic combat to where you can see feints and saber to saber slaps that create openings. Watching shin and Sabine fight is a great example of that.

[@LordSevla]

Star Wars fights in the George Lucas trilogy are like: spinning like a ballerina, reverse grip, dual blades, hitting the enemy saber because they like to see sparks... it's like kung-fu movies being compared to MMA.

[@crusadernikolai1996]

@@TVNDRA”realistic” is this the same fight when Sabine holds herself off the ground with one hand while blocking with her saber from a position where she’d have no leverage and would just get blown over and sliced? I think you give them too much credit

[@blooper6801]

A large part of Yodas fighting style is using the rebound force of his lightsaber to propel his next attack. This completely counters him

[@Werrf1]

Ah yes, because his blade passing through yours and _into you_ is a winning move!! Fuck, this whole meme is so childish...

[@jacobtuck3086]

​@@Werrf1calling the meme childish as if you aren't the one getting pressed about fucking star wars

[@ItsMe-ob8ue]

@@Werrf1then move out of the way as you turn it off?

[@Werrf1]

@@ItsMe-ob8ue If you're moving out of the way, you're kinda defeating the entire point of turning it off.

[@ItsMe-ob8ue]

@@Werrf1 that's literally what he did in the video and it worked

[@lexdelta318]

I love how fast Obi-Wan changes his mind the instant he tries it.

[@WeirdTale]

Obi-Wan understands the difference between honorable combat, and effective combat.

[@-Terzetto]

he knew he was in trouble.

[@hampuswirsen7793]

Besides, he is the troll master

[@Clever_Motel]

@@hampuswirsen7793 This is the reason

[@SaintJimmy379]

In character too. Apprehensive at first to this new fangled way but if it works then by all means he's going to appropriate it into his style... That's actually what made him so cool, he's got all his bases covered. Ultimate Jedi.

[@j-train13]

It's all fun and games until you turning your blade off causes them to stumble straight into your chest

[@travisleabeck2572]

i mean I'm assuming with jedi reaction times that you'd obviously be prepared for the side step

[@MaxLohMusic]

@@travisleabeck2572 That goes both ways. If they were prepared for that then you could've just done a different move. Just because a counter exists doesn't mean it's not a viable technique. By the way, there's lots of ways to make this technique work that weren't shown in the video. The most obvious one that comes to mind is if you're attacking and they're blocking, you can just turn it off/on for an easy bypass and kill.

[@natchu96]

The turning blade off stumble really only works when the two duelists are already pushing against each other, you can't completely cancel forward momentum no matter what you do but some sort of off-balance response should still be possible if they know what they're doing. Now passing the blade through just seems suicidal and relatively useless.

[@bobbirdsong6825]

@maxlohmusic Anyone who’s ever fenced or boxed will dispute this because it doesn’t make sense. You can simply… move your lightsaber into them once they turn theirs off. Given how long a lightsaber takes to ignite and turn off anyway, it’s not practical because there’s a variety of force moves that are more effective and accomplish the same thing without getting rid of the thing that keeps you alive.

[@MaxLohMusic]

@@bobbirdsong6825 Why do you assume I haven't fenced or boxed? You simply aren't thinking it through. First off you're obviously not going to use the technique if it would've resulted in you being skewered; you would've sidestepped in some way to prevent that and allow you to capitalize on it. Secondly there are tons of ways to use this technique beyond what the video portrayed, which you can imagine using just an ounce of creativity. The most obvious one being when you attack and they're blocking, you turn it off and on really fast to bypass the block. If they've committed to the block because they assumed you wouldn't use this technique, there's literally no counter.

[@13AxelRoxas]

The Yoda part just hit me so hard that I can't stop laughing.

[@user-vt9bg4so3f]

Yeah I’m laughing like crazy in public 😂

[@tristanwelch424]

The Lego death sound was so out of left field I’m crying lmao

[@RF-INF]

the way he goes "ARGHHHHH" i am dying, help ahahahahahahahhahaah

[@JacobLaguerre91]

That death yell killed me lmaooo

[@sandrosliske]

I'm still laughing from it while reading through the comments.

[@dawesome_sauce]

Your depiction of Yoda had me in tears 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@MatthewMcCleskey]

All the credit goes to the Grogu plush I wiggled around in front of a camera!

[@matthewphenix7952]

⁠@@MatthewMcCleskey the Grogu plush you BRILLIANTLY wiggled around. And that yell is what killed me!

[@dan7564]

@@MatthewMcCleskey You forgot the move where you go for the over head swing and they raise their light sabre to block yours but you turn it off, follow through and turn it on.

[@benharding5591]

​@@MatthewMcCleskeyI watched that last part a dozen times

[@more-reasons6655]

​​@@MatthewMcCleskey Isn't Yoda's stumble at 2:10 the scene from Empire Strikes back aswell?

[@amazingfool1653]

The way Yoda just falls down and dies kills me every time 🤣

[@seanerzat]

It killed him too

[@raymondortiz1748]

I’m still laughing… hours after seeing this I was still chortling to myself about it. Why is that part SO DAMN FUNNY!?!

[@martalaatsch8358]

How did he actually die?

[@Tenajeh]

@@martalaatsch8358He was literally dead-tired of Luke asking him never-ending questions.

[@TheOneWhoHasABadName]

@@martalaatsch8358 yeah luke learned too much from yoda, yoda slept so hard, he disappeared

[@tobyduarte9849]

2:01 I love the take of Jedi foot wear squeaking like they’re on a basketball court 😂

[@theultimatetrashman887]

This lightsaber trick is a kneecap breaker

[@Ariel_Saturn]

I really want to see Anakin ballin on obi wan lmao

[@tobyduarte9849]

@@Ariel_Saturn Anakin: I don’t follow the standard NBA rules and regulations master…don’t underestimate my dunk!

[@Aaron-fb6mb]

Same 😂

[@jarradcust3472]

"we have to show this to Master Yoda", followed immediately by "Anakin, I believe we're in a lot of trouble" made me do a real life spit take.

[@dback27]

Right 🤣

[@TrePool]

I have a bad feeling about this.

[@perssontm1628]

Omg I laughed so hard "aaaaaghhhhee" *broken bones sound*

[@MarkLPaes]

Weekend at Yoda's

[@LOUDMOUTHTYRONE]

​@@MarkLPaesLOL!!! Force move a dead corpes, and pretend he's alive.

[@hagank1111]

What’s funny is that this strategy was used by ancient Jedi and Sith alike and they both agreed it was an asshole move so they outlawed it 😂 P.S So people stop acting like it’s stupid the Sith would outlaw this, keep in mind the Ancient Sith pride themselves on being better then the Jedi. They’d see doing this as cowardice.

[@sebcw1204]

i used this in a star wars campaign i ran. the hero's got rumors of a devastating lightsaber, they heard that no enemy could stand against this sith lord when he wielded it. after investigating the ruins and finding and repairing consoles, they saw video footage of an ancient battle, and it was just that the sith lord was using this technique. they were mad at first, they thought they were going to find some uber weapon. but once they realized they had a new move they could use, they were much happier.

[@firework8140]

sounds like they got skill diffed by a broken meta

[@StrangeCreed]

Tràkata. They hated it, so it must be extremely effective.

[@-Terzetto]

They were probably in a lot of trouble.

[@Influfferious]

I love the one where you turn off the opponetns lightsaber with the force to stab them

[@SerathDarklands]

Turning one's lightsaber on and off in the middle of combat is actually a thing in Star Wars - it's called Tràkata. It wasn't widely used, as the Jedi thought it provided an unfair advantage and the Sith thought is was a sign of weakness.

[@wasdkug_tr]

so basically the Jedi outlaws it and the sith calls you a pussy for using it

[@SerathDarklands]

@@wasdkug_tr Yeah, that about sums it up. There were a few fringe individuals who used it, but it never really gained a lot of following. I think Darth Traya was known to have used it in her youth.

[@zachsmcl]

Trakata also involves using the powering on of the lightsaber to impale your opponents. Which is why it’s seen as unfair or taboo. It’s just not an honorable way to fight.

[@mehcide4767]

It's a poorly thought out thing in the EU. Lightsabers have no weight so it takes no time to go from block to strike if you deactivate your saber. So even with weak jedi precognition you would react, and win everytime.

[@mat8791]

​@@mehcide4767 Weight is not a problem, applied force is a problem. Weight or not, you still push your lightsaber into the other's... Beam? Beam which provides resistance, it pushes back. Powering off the lightsaber means that suddenly all the force applied goes at once. Sure, having less weight makes it more maneuverable but it's still a surprise and a few moments to get back into a stance. Those few moments can be the difference between life or death. Then again I may be reiterating what you just said, I didn't really know what you meant.

[@TheChrispy771]

Jedi: “It is dishonorable to turn off your lightsaber until a fight is over” Sith: “If the only way I can overpower my opponent is through turning off my lightsaber, I am weak.”

[@YourOwnPersonalJordan]

Thats probably how it went yeah lol

[@xanderskaggs5537]

Thats an inside joke with my friend group since I found out that to the sith its dishonorable to turn your lightsaber off mid combat on both sides except the dark side make it seem like your a wimp because you rely on cheap tricks like turning off your lightsaber

[@RoundShades]

I just couldn't imagine something so obvious being so hard to see telegraphed, whether instantaneous reflex or force prediction. But i guess one could say the same for brutal kicking and all lightsabre attacks to begin with, though one would like to think that those are pure instances of overpowering that prediction doesn't equal prevention regardless.

[@inklingboi08]

@@YourOwnPersonalJordanThat's actually a canon explanation (well, was canon, now it's a part of legends).

[@YourOwnPersonalJordan]

@@inklingboi08 Canon as in its actually in canon or a supposed possible canon situation based on the philosophies of the Jedi and Sith?

[@phoenixnuhl]

Accidentally killing yoda is COMPLETELY on brand for this duo lol they had the Sith Lord fearing for his life on a kidnapping he orchestrated

[@Prince_the_One]

Sidious never cared about obiwan...he was not a threat

[@sonic-bb]

It's not on brand for this duo tho...

[@Ostr0]

2:07 lmao 💀

[@Prince_the_One]

@@Mapleboi404 the only mistake was not disposing of Vader sooner lol

[@katlikegaming]

Such grace. Such poise. Master Yoda truly embodies what it means to be a Jedi

[@theoverseer1775]

"I am literally shaking and crying on the floor rn" -Master Yoda, a long time ago

[@youpi403]

"flop"

[@TheDevilockedzombie]

I thought it was going to be turning the OTHER persons light saber off. This is just pure genius.

[@AlexDown1]

There is something known as a "force barrier" defined as: The only way to get around writing yourself into a corner. Basically any force user is able to block simple force tricks such as that and any other goofy hypothetical. Doing the "you have something on your shirt" trick. Sticking your "force foot" out to trip someone up. Or even the "force tickle" on even the most ticklish of Jedi. But no Jedi nor Sith is so uncivilized to do an underhanded tactic such as that.

[@dougawesomecities]

Canonically speaking, who is the most ticklish Jedi?

[@theultimatefreak666]

It's called Tràkata but Jedi think it's unsportsmanlike and sith think it's cowardly ...Yes, the question why they don't just turn it off and on again when the lightsabers catch each other at some point was big enough that we have a Canon answer

[@AlexDown1]

@@dougawesomecities Apparently my "most ticklish Jedi" headcanon which I'm also very strongly for, Yoda, it just fits, he'd be easiest to tickle too I mean he has no shoes, but I don't wanna think about how many Jedi have no shoes, I'm sure it's more than I'd want to know.

[@GreenDude_Gaming]

But you know this is canonically a forbidden technique

[@lukegilbert8033]

This was an actual lightsaber technique called Tràkata, when Mixed with Jar'Kai, Tràkata was extremely effective even against multiple opponents. However, this method was greatly frowned upon, and was almost never used by either the Sith or the Jedi. The Sith claimed that it showed weakness and demonstrated a lack of power, while the Jedi claimed that this form was unsportsmanlike. Regardless, this lightsaber form was not widely used.

[@lastkryptonian3901]

Lol was hoping someone here had this knowledge ^_^

[@jerrettevans7240]

​@@Kira1Lawliet "Nerd" ☝️🤓

[@lemone630]

Virgin "IT'S DISHONORABLE!" VS. Chad "Bitch move"

[@peytonalexander5300]

There were also lightsabers equipped with “flicker blades” or something to that effect. The idea is that they would randomly turn off, just for a split second, so that even the wielder didn’t know when it was going to happen. The idea is that since there was no method for activation, there would be no tell that it was coming, and the opponent would have no way of reacting in time. However, using one of these was incredibly dangers, because if you were ever the on on the defensive, that random flickering could cost you your life. So you basically had to play all out offense when using them, never giving your opponent a chance to get one over on you. They were eventually outlawed for obvious reasons.

[@Xero116]

lol I was just about to comment this myself

[@congruentcrib]

Now I’m just imagining that someone has their lightsaber with a special button that acts like a double click. It’d be like the fancy gaming nice where they have more buttons than a keyboard.

[@Johannes00]

Or, hear me out, using the force to flick your opponent's off button.

[@matheusjahnke8643]

​@@Johannes00 Yoda did that once... He force-turned-off Asajj Ventress' lightsabers. Then force grabbed them. Then threw them back to her.

[@47ndrant42]

@@Johannes00 the peophecy, it came true

[@congruentcrib]

@@Johannes00 I think they stole your idea

[@Johannes00]

@@congruentcribThey really did! 😂

[@portalstoourpast6366]

I did _not_ expect the LEGO death screech coupled with the scene of him falling off of Luke. An immaculate pairing.

[@Fenizrael]

It’s got me rolling so hard

[@kuno3336]

I love how deep a cut this is. The novelization of A New Hope specifically mentioned that Anakin "used his saber like a blaster" rapidly turning it off and on during battle

[@dominicsommer7187]

I thought that was because it was always hard to see on the battlefield during clone wars due to the dirt being blasted into the air or lack of light during the night. Anakin would have his lightsaber turned on only for the killing blow to increase his stealth.

[@kuno3336]

@@dominicsommer7187 valid theory! But this novelization came out before the Clone Wars were fleshed out, back when they were just a line in the movie

[@DamplyDoo]

Can you please give me a source on this? I found a PDF of A New Hope online and searched the term blaster and cannot find the quote. Thanks a lot!

[@EVANGELISTDanielTorres]

@@DamplyDooit’s also a tactic some of the sith used I believe I may be mistaken, and even Asajj

[@MunyuShizumi]

​@@DamplyDooI went and read about 1/4 of the novelization in detail (essentially all parts that mention or include Vader), and searched for any mention of (light)saber or blaster, can't find a single sentence supporting this. Also checked Wookiepedia for any such techniques and weapons, none mention Vader. I have a feeling OP made this one up.

[@sinofsanity6593]

yoda's face the first (and possibly last) time he comes in contact with this new skill is priceless of course, the biggest weakness of this skill is that once the opponent sees it it'll take them 5 seconds to also learn it. Imagine Obi Wan and Anakin both using this seriously by the time they're fighting on the volcano planet in Revenge of the Sith, they'd both be dead

[@tomc.5704]

Nah, the biggest weakness of this skill is how hard it is to find a sparring partner who won't rage quit

[@charleslambert3368]

once you know to expect it you can avoid stumbling and chop your opponent's face in half instead since they have no defense

[@0Blueaura]

@@charleslambert3368 but you dont have to be on the offense when you switch it off, its to make the things weird and off balance. even if opponent predicts it and swings the saber to chop your face, they one switching off the saber could simply predict it and move away

[@PotatoPrem]

@@tomc.5704 or die

[@nemou4985]

@@0Blueaura The opponent if using his weight, is thrusting their saber towards you. Once you turn off your saber, you are cut in half.

[@DemoClan324]

This lightsaber “form” is more of a technique called Trakata, and was invented and developed by a Jedi consular. Both the Jedi and the Sith didn’t use it cause the Jedi believed it was more a Sith thing to use deception, while the Sith saw it as weakness compared to trying to use their superior strength and power in saber combat. There have been some to use the technique, and was even featured in the Star Wars Vision short, The Elder.

[@Officerdown76]

This is why both sides are either really stupid or just hate thinking outside the box

[@jajohannesson]

Cal Kestis used it in a fight against the Second Sister aswell.

[@chrisallen9638]

It's a trick, not a sound tactic. The in-universe explanation for why it isn't used is dumber than the trick itself.

[@GreaterGrievobeast55]

@@chrisallen9638i'm pretty sure they at least explain it's a very risky move that can get you killed in the new jedi order books. I don't know what those ancient Jedi and sith were thinking

[@billhartsford4820]

If ever there was an appropriate time to use the Homer Simpson nerrrrrrd clip, it's here lol

[@ajaderabbit8399]

Against someone like Count Dooku, who doesn't put all their weight onto the saber, turning it off means losing the other hand 😅

[@jonathanwilliams1271]

And the Jedi in general were incredibly fast duelists, they would cut you to pieces just in the time it took the saber to reignite after being switched off

[@Gen0ration9k]

Count duku's style is meant for dealing with other lightsabers, though turning it off can still be beneficial, if you do the reverse. Turn it from off to on, so he struggles to predict your swings since there's no blade

[@Gen0ration9k]

​@@jonathanwilliams1271arguable, it was a canonical style that worked actually and was frowned upon as a result because it was so op

[@edwxx20001]

@@Gen0ration9k what you are referring to is a style that had the blade RANDOMLY turn on and off so it would surprise both combatants. the one who uses it would have trained to better react the randomness. It needed to be random to mess with the force telling your opponent your intention of turning it off. turning off a saber mid-combat is extremely dangerous because among other things force sensitives can see the future, sense danger, feel the power fluctuation of a lightsaber, and move so quickly as to take advantage of the mechanical time it takes for a lightsaber to turn on and off. one of the darkside's many powers is to cloud the force making it harder for lightsiders to see the future and anticipate their actions. so the on off moves work best for a darksider then the jedi in this "100% cannon clip" from star wars. on a side note the 4 sith we see in the saga, are all expertly skilled in saber combat. they are all to arrogant to try this, even vader who by all evidence invented it and used it to beat yoda.

[@Rykiz_Vidz]

​@@Gen0ration9kit was more so the method of shortening or lengthening your blade during mid combat to throw off your opponent. That way you weren't completely defenseless for a few seconds.

[@azraelimmortal972]

If I remember correctly, this was an actual fighting style in the Star Wars universe Just turning it off and back on to mess with your opponent's balance or bypass blocks But it was looked down by both the Jedi and Sith. The Jedi viewed as a dishonorable cheap trick, and the Sith viewed as a coward's technique. I think only Gray Jedi used it

[@TheRebelkid15]

Only smart people would use it, tbh. Screw dishonor and screw weakness.

[@azraelimmortal972]

@@TheRebelkid15 Jedi: "You're weak" Sith: "You're a coward" Gray jedi: "You're dead, I'm not"

[@TheToasterPope]

I think the real reason was to make lightsaber fights easier to choreograph

[@azraelimmortal972]

@@TheToasterPope probably the real answer. Mine is the in-universe reason

[@nado1908]

​@TheRebelkid15 Yeah that's grey jedi.

[@Ivyticrea]

The voice acting and the comedy’s really nice. I was just baffled to see that this is not a Joel Haver video

[@scooter7954]

It wasn't until this comment that I realized the video I just watched and rewatched WASNT joel haver

[@lenenlawless]

Joel haver setting trends

[@balrg]

they’re good friends, and Matthew features on Joel’s channel a lot

[@Eddysamson1]

Even the voice acting is very Haver-esque

[@oditeomnes]

To be fair, Joel is credited and his tutorial video on this animation is in the description.

[@joeyparker4287]

the voice acting for anakin was on point my guys

[@Scroolewse]

I'm glad someone else noticed this. So good

[@betin731]

voice acting for yoda was great as well

[@Aaron-fb6mb]

Fr

[@darthor693]

This technique is actually in Star Wars and it's called Trakata. Traya and Revan were both masters of it, and Chamma used it against an unidentified Sith entity in TOTJ companion. Senya also used it in the SWTOR trailer. There's quite a lot of applications of this technique in Star Wars EU lore.

[@AsuraDandy]

It was also used in one of the Star Wars Visions short movies, the one with the japanese theming (not the black and white one) where he retracted his saber to free it from force lightning hold and turned it back on after placing it on his chest. I thought it was a rather brilliant way of including it.

[@Ariel_Saturn]

If you play jedi fallen order, a man call Cal Kestis, use this technique to take down second sister while trying to get the holocron.

[@midgetydeath]

To be fair, Traya and especially Revan were masters of everything.

[@bapaotje4107]

Neither Jedi or Sith use this. Jedi find this too deceptive, and Sith see it as weakness

[@beanieguitarguy4070]

@@bapaotje4107Cringe

[@SpookyStu]

Supposedly this is a forbidden style to the Jedi. I guess because it’s considered a dick move lol

[@Anime-Doof]

*From a certain point of view…*

[@vivusbrydyr4039]

Doesn't really explain why Sith don't do it. The real answer is - because it would've been hell to choreograph and impossible to implement on screen when the OT came out. It's an obvious lore hole that you're expected to roll with, there will never be a solid enough explanation that won't just be a crutch. There was a CGI trailer for The Old Republic that featured this kind of constant flicking of the switch, it looked cool. Edit: to everyone who says Sith don't do it cuz it's honourless\cowardly\they have standards: there might be some Sith like that in the expanded universe, but in George's movies we see only Sith who don't give a damn about such concepts. Palpatine playing tricks on everyone, Anakin stabbing brethren in the back and killing children, Maul bitch slapping Qui Gon, Dooku running away when things go south. Tell me once again that this move is "too cheap" for them.

[@ArcticSurvivor17]

@@vivusbrydyr4039 I'll "🤓" myself, but I believe the Jedi don't do it because it's seen as a unconventional and disrecptful, and the Sith see it as a weak move, but I could be wrong

[@DarkAtHearts]

This is very true. I remember reading about this a few Months ago. It shows no honor with the sif and the jedi if they were to do this. Just the individual will be considered dishonorable on both sides

[@DarkAtHearts]

​@vivusbrydyr4039 It's about honor. Even the Sith have standards. An individual who does this is considered a coward.

[@commanderclown8620]

The main problem with this concept is that if you do it, there is no longer anything between you and your opponents saber. They tend to take a bit of time to actually turn on and off.

[@bobbirdsong6825]

Thank you, for some reason people just accept the idea that this works and I hate how it’s canon now when the actual explanation could just be its a bad technique (which it is)

[@zenthous9568]

@@bobbirdsong6825I think it could definitely work in some situations, lightsabers don’t take THAT long to ignite, and it would throw the other person off balance

[@rileydurrer2497]

In sword fighting most binds protect you from the opponent sword so if you turn yours off the other lightsaber would be pushed right into you. So yeah it’s just a bad and dangerous technique

[@zenthous9568]

@@rileydurrer2497 if your opponent goes is pressing your lightsaber very hard with an overhead strike and expects to overpower you as you block, can you not turn off your lightsaber as you sidestep, completely throwing them off balance and leaving them vulnerable

[@bobbirdsong6825]

@@zenthous9568 no, all lightsaber users (unless they stole one) are force sensitive. in the time it takes to turn off your lightsaber that's an easy win for someone with precognition. i mean that's supposedly why the duels in the prequels are so fantastical

[@cal7447]

A lot of light sabre gags (and gags in general) can be extremely one-note. There's essentially just one note here as well, but the execution of the slapstick timing and the line delivery is just SO powerful that this has become one of the funniest stuff I've run into in a while.

[@jourdansarpy4935]

Definitely. And the way the execute it keeps you off balance the entire time. Like when Obiwan is complaining, you really don’t expect him to bust it out against anakin and then be the one to suggest showing it to Yoda.

[@LibraritheWizardOfficial]

​@@jourdansarpy4935keeps you... off balance, you say? 😂

[@Ike_of_pyke]

​@@LibraritheWizardOfficialyes stumbling your way through

[@theshowershow]

Anakin turning off the saber because its rather funny is something I totally see anakin doing during his transition period. Also the animations are looking crisp my guy

[@RomanumChristum]

Nah…even a day before being darth Vader he would do it

[@zubbworks]

He would do it AS darth vader, but he'd turn it back on inside you.@@RomanumChristum

[@mousermind]

*it's *something I totally (?) it's = it + is its = possessive (e.g. ours, yours)

[@henrypaleveda7760]

I like crispy.

[@waffler-yz3gw]

@@mousermindno way youre getting pedantic over *apostrophes* man, you for sure get bullied in school

[@VahidSlayerOfAll]

using the force to turn off the other persons lightsaber works far better

[@moonie9000]

A good force user knows how to protect against such things. It's why force push isn't used constantly against other masters.

[@knowledgeanddefense1054]

@@moonie9000 But why not use that against Grievous, for example? Come to think of it, there are many times when you gotta wonder why force users don't just use it as an auto win button in a duel, like why hasn't Maul just force choke Pre Vizla and 1 shot him that way

[@kevinzhang6623]

That's obviously Ahsoka's signature move, they need to contact her legal team in the event she claims copyright. *Ahem*

[@kikiretzorg1467]

@@knowledgeanddefense1054 The OG Clone Wars series actually addressed this! There are a few moments that show Grievous is _extremely_ vulnerable to any force technique ever, like Dooku just invalidating his approach during training with one force push, so he intentionally developed a strategy of using terror so much that Jedi would _forget_ to use the force against him. “If you are to succeed in combat against the best of the Jedi, you must have fear, surprise, and intimidation on your side. For if any one element is lacking, it would be best for you to retreat. You must break them before you engage them; only then will you ensure victory.” And when he _doesn’t_ follow this advice, he gets completely owned by a single force spell so hard it nerfs him into his Episode III self.

[@tandava-089]

@@kikiretzorg1467 And when he doesn’t follow this advice, he gets completely owned by a single force spell so hard it nerfs him into his Episode III self. 🤣 Yo, you just tied those versions of him together seemlessly, and roasted that droid harder than obi roasted ani of mustafar 🤣

[@KARKATELCESARENVIADODESA-pv4yd]

As an avid prequel defender until my last breath... THIS is what the comedy should have been like, which we actually had good examples of, all in Obi Wan's aristocratic situational sarcasm.

[@popularguygaming]

This was addressed in legends, and it was said that it was a "forbidden" move that both the Sith and Jedi banned from their trainings. The Sith viewed it as a move only the weak would use since they believed it showed that whom ever used it lacked the skill to actually win a duel the traditional way. The Jedi just viewed it as unfair and uncharacteristic of a Jedi, so they banned it. I think they even associated it as a "darkside" technique at one point.

[@MrAlbinoGhost]

so force users are like cod pros and just ban anything they find annoying

[@megaman37456]

@@MrAlbinoGhost Same with Halo "pros". Anything that gives less experienced users a chance is whined about until it is eventually removed.

[@jayscott8583]

Didn't stop Corran horn from using a similar move.

[@mikebevan1034]

​@@MrAlbinoGhostAs someone who doesn't play COD, what would be an example of this?

[@hiphopheadshots]

CDL (call of duty pro league) rulesets only allow specific guns/perk/attachments that sometimes are tuned differently than normal this is mostly done from a balancing perspective rather than a "its annoying" perspective as if you didn't everyone would be using the same kit and would devolve into who can get the first shot off.@@mikebevan1034

[@Space_Pope]

I hope you had fun with this one. I sure enjoyed it. 😂

[@Deadpool3E]

Fun fact: this is actually a known technique called Trakata which both the Jedi and Sith are aware of. However, both groups hate this trick for different reasons and effectively banned its practice. Jedi find it to be an unsportsmanlike tool and one reliant on deception whereas the Sith considered the tactic as a display of weakness that went against their passionate fighting philosophy.

[@jeremywarner899]

I like how Yoda went into full acrobatics and ended up a shattered husk on the floor . Lmao

[@Your-Least-Favorite-Stranger]

My favorite part about this is if your opponent is especially clumsy: they might trip and injure themselves with their own lightsaber.

[@zombiesalmon4997]

Lightsaber fights could be so much cooler imo. Imagine using the force to pick up like 50 lightsabers and just barraging them at your opponent

[@timothyn4699]

if you had 50 lightsabers that may work, though they seem to be pretty rare in general but, that'd be a weak force hold on 50 diff objects. If the opponent focused all their force power on 1 of your floating lghtsabers they could probably take control of it and turn it against you, then suddenly it doesn't matter that you're juggling 49 if one of them is heading towards you like a spear you lose focus, your 49 lightsabers fall as you try to stop the one. The opponent now either gains controls of more of your sabers or rushes you and you're probably toast

[@sneedfeedandseed2410]

@@timothyn4699 IIRC only kreia used the floating lightsabers trick and she only had 5 or so.

[@jase276]

I don't see many force users capable of controlling mor ethan 10 lightsaber slike that, let alone 50. Besides, we've already seen quantity doesn't outdo quality. General Grievous tried that on Obi-Wan and got smoked.

[@Stonedsheepu8906]

@@sneedfeedandseed2410seeing her use them makes me think of Scooby Doo 2. Like, the knight telekinetically swinging his sword lazily while Velma was defending frantically

[@skepabbas9400]

@@jase276but obi wan cheaped out and brought a glock to a knife fight, could he beat him in a melee only duel

[@Rags-Sgar]

Took me a few rewatches to get the “teaching all of the younglings a lesson” line holy shit

[@michaelkelsey4918]

I watched it like 10 times and i didn't get it until you spelled it out for me!

[@thegamingcow5072]

Yoda actually kinda accidentally counters that strategy with how he fights. Turn it off while he's flying at you and you're just forcing him to stab you because there's nothing between his lightsaber and you

[@notallowedtobehonest2539]

The joke here is that yoda uses his bodyweight to bounce off of the lightsabers. He will flip into a collision strike, then because he is small, he can take the return force from the 200 lb opponent and he gets bounced like when you double jump someone on the trampoline. He turned off the lightsaber before he could do this (like moving the trampoline from under someone) and he hit the ground so hard he died

[@Ostr0]

Lmao

[@Eldoofus]

@@notallowedtobehonest2539 I thought the joke was that Yoda accidentally sliced his own neck

[@notallowedtobehonest2539]

@@Eldoofus i guess we have to wait and see which one of us gets more likes 🤷🏻‍♂️. I could be wrong. I just dont remember yoda ever slicing anyones throat...?

[@immortal_shrooms6757]

@@notallowedtobehonest2539check the video again

[@TheeKevinAtor]

I have not laughed as hard as I laughed at the Yoda part in a long time

[@Josh-ks7co]

The optimal lightsaber technique is to point it at your opponent and jestate wildly. The blade has no mass so you can pivot on the handles center of mass erratically.

[@Voltaic_Fire]

According to the lore the lightsabre blade has no mass but it does have plenty of inertia, it is formed by the incredibly powerful energy currents that confine and define the blade, so as amusing as that is it would not be viable.

[@cy-one]

@@Voltaic_Fire No mass but inertia. Somewhere, physics is laying in the ditch, drunk and out cold.

[@Voltaic_Fire]

@@cy-one I never said that the lore made sense. :p

[@godofacorns]

That worked great for Grievous.

[@Vespyr_]

I honestly thought Lucas had the right idea in making the blade heavy originally. That's why the OT had these huge Berserk like swings blowing stuff up on the walls all the time. Much preferred it to this foam bat style they have now.

[@iklull6135]

Voices so amazing, Anakin's flat tone makes it hilarious.

[@BeggarsNight]

Just a dead-on impression of prequel Christensen. That’s what makes it hilarious.

[@DeadLog]

Fun fact you can’t turn off your lightsaber while they are locked together. You can however just turn it off before you hit their block to effectively bypass it

[@nonya1366]

There is such a style where you turn off your own saber, then re-activate it. However, turning off your lightsaber when there's two people usually fighting using the force, being able to see the future and the such. Isn't always a great idea? But it is effective. The Tràkata style is a funny and interesting one.

[@RedElm747]

This is why you combine it with Jar'kai

[@PipHalsey]

Personally, I'm sitting here wondering why they'd use their actual lightsabers during training. Don't they have some sort of training swords they could use? Seems incredibly dangerious to 'train' using real light sabers.

[@nonya1366]

There IS training sabers. But these are a jedi knight and a jedi master, they can handle throwing lightsabers at eachother without cutting eachother in half.

[@spugelo359]

@@nonya1366 Very ineffective since you can't go for actual killing blows, AKA ones that matter the most to train for/against. Just clashing and rubbing those sticks together aint going to finish the job.

[@nonya1366]

@@spugelo359 Well, it kind of depends. They're jedi who are presumably in a more. Relaxed? State. Their senses can go beyond their human bodies and kind of 'see' the future. And when you can 'see' that your about to be decapitated, you call the training duel there. That and, technically you can probably modify a lightsaber to be 'non lethal', which is what a training saber is anyways by jacking up the electromagnetic containment field all lightsabers have. But training sabers still hurt like a ***Bitch*** to be fair. They just can't puncture skin or amputate limbs.

[@notster7114]

@@nonya1366 everyone in the sequel trilogy forgot to turn their lightsabers off of training mode i guess

[@nonya1366]

@@notster7114 Y'think anakin had the opposite problem, where he turned training mode *on* [from his perspective] for order 66? "Whoops, accidentally killed some younglings. Man training sabers are lethal."

[@fire2box]

I like how this is once again cannon. It makes perfect sense to do but even the Sith are like " it's too cheap".

[@Ricardo50493]

This is the lightsaber equivalent to pocket sand, and I'm all here for it.

[@csch1510]

I don't like lightsabers. They're bright, cutting, and they get you everywhere

[@jmormaple]

Made me laugh out loud, did not expect the sound at the ending😂

[@RandomizedYoutuber012]

When it’s yoda, gotta do the scream EEEAHH

[@PotatoPatatoVonSpudsworth]

Genuinely one of the biggest tragedies of the Prequels is that they had the opportunity for fun banter like this, but never the writers capable of pulling it off.

[@johnballard3403]

Had more or less the same idea, just in reverse. Use the smaller surface area of an off lightsaber to position the blade before igniting it. You do it right, and theoretically, your blade is now in their guard and sticking out the other side of your opponent's chest.

[@vibechecker3168]

I remembered trakata existed, and then realised how infuriating it would be to fight someone who dual wielded and used trakata as well. You could use one to block them, and then the other to move around the guard or attack from weird angles. Trakata is easy to learn, very hard to master

[@Domarius64]

This is so well acted :) I could almost believe this could be actual dialogue and delivery.

[@Gofr5]

I practice longsword and actually just learned a similar technique to this that involves doing an overheard slash, but midway through the slash you fake out and pull back into an overhead guard. This leaves your opponent exposed as they would still be in mid reaction to the initial slash, thus leaving their entire side exposed to your now pointed blade and you can just stab them. It's proven to be a very effective technique in my limited uses of it so far. This whole retreating the lightsaber thing reminded me of that technique and I would totally be turning my lightsaber off mid combat too if they were real. lol

[@mousermind]

The sheer amount of clever references in this is mindblowing. I love it.

[@CrimsonMoonM]

"I believe WE are in a lot of trouble!" That inoccuous line says a lot about why this Anakin is exceedingly stupid but not downright evil: he has a mentor who sticks by him, is humble enough to see the value in his ideas and takes personal responsibility for the flaws in his teachings. That's a true role model right there, even if he's not a particularly bright one.

[@sugarpolecat4781]

I love it. This has Joel written all over the core, but then Matthew took the core and molded it into something of his own, adding 3D backgrounds and more complex moves and poses. Really funny and great quality!

[@Fang.1]

Your Obi-wan and Anakin voices are so incredibly funny for some reason.

[@StormkoopaCV03]

Yoda's pride of being an excellent lightsaber duelist went out the door. 🤣

[@Endor2001]

And straight to the Coroner's office.

[@TT-md7mm]

Your Obi-Wan is absolutely mint and I love how far you've come with the Ebsynth animations .

[@laestaca7182]

I just love that the lightsaber takes forever to turn on and if your opponent is quick enough he would kill you instantly before you could say "this technique is stupid" and somehow nobody thinks about it when discussing this

[@bubbadarth]

That's my point if obiwan was aiming for anakin and not his lightsaber like how actual combat works this "forbidden technique" wouldn't be useful at all cause you'd just get sliced in half for having no defense on.

[@laestaca7182]

@@bubbadarth of course! Although as a swordsman and a director myself I can tell you that real life combat is entertaining to do, but watching it is really boring. So I understand fighting in star wars. It's all about spectacle in the end.

[@Lifeislikeadoughnut]

Lightsabers have been shown to active quickly or slowly there’s probably some lore explanation probably involving the force or a quickdraw button. This technique was canon back before Disney but was considered a cowardly method by Sith and a Sith method by Jedi. You’d deactivate your saber in a clash, avoid the blade of your opponent whilst reactivating to deliver a blow. Cal Kestis performed it against the Second Sister although it was done in a way to escape an unfavourable position.

[@laestaca7182]

@@Lifeislikeadoughnut just hear the sound of an igniting lightsaber, it's at best too slow to regain ground quick enough, and the force it's not a get out of jail free card for anything even though that's how Disney uses it so stop making excuses, every iteration of the technique that is really useful it's when the blade turns so quick that the blade wasn't even off completely. Also the lore reason has always been stupid. The sith are asholes, many of them didn't cared for "honor" or "showing weakness" (like Palpatine or even the brotherhood of darkness, exar kun even was famous for using every advantage in battle no matter the context and that's why he made the double-bladed lightsaber) so they were always asholes that would definitely use the technique. Overall, the Canon is nonsensical and would have been better off just saying that the lightsaber just don't turn on quick enough, because it doesn't.

[@Gotz_the_iron_hand]

The best technique is just to create a droid that looks like you, have it draw a lightsaber, and when it and the jedi clash, it explodes delivering a wide area payload with the force of an atomic bomb.

[@zenmaster8826]

This is actually a legit lightsaber technique.. but considered a double edged sword because it also leaves you vulnerable

[@WufeiLord]

It only has to work once. Once your opponent catches on, it's much less effective, but can still cause enough hesitation to get a strike in. And as was just said, one strike is all it takes.

[@WindyREDPanda]

To be fair: even vulnerable a Jedi or sith and just parry with the force.

[@tubetorpedo]

_"This is actually a legit lightsaber technique.. but considered a double edged sword because it also leaves you vulnerable"_ Not a very smart one. In actual combat your aim is to target your opponents body, not their weapon. Which means that if I strike at you, you block my strike and suddenly remove the weapon which you used to block my strike with, my strike will continue towards the original target which was aimed at you. I would not suddenly falter away from you, because you are in the line I was aiming and pushing at. The joke works here visually because they are not trying to actually hit each other, they are just trying to push against their opponents weapon.

[@WufeiLord]

@@tubetorpedo If you're blocking, you're not necessarily striking.

[@erehr4623]

Use double-bladed lightsaber and turn off only one side duh

[@mjszczepankiewicz8496]

That's a good point in your video. On the other hand it shows how the star wars movies sufer from being so serious

[@edwardnedharvey8019]

"So you can destroy your enemy. It is also very funny." 😂 Didn't laugh the first time, but on replay, that line hits hard. 😂

[@LivyWard]

I won't lie, I've been wondering when someone else would think of this amazing technique in combat. It's super effective.

[@digidecks]

Oh it's been there they just ban it from both sides 😂 jedi say it's dirty sith say it's cheap and a disgrace 😂😂😂

[@Xavier6854]

fun fact: this is A REAL FORM called "Tràkata" it involves where the user turns the lightsaber on and off during combat this move is called "passing the blade"

[@CasualReaper]

The fact that Voda got juked by it just makes it ten times more hilarious

[@Nick.t.S]

What did you rotoscope to get yoda; a stuffed animal or something? Even now, in this animation all I can think of is “seagulls stop it now”.. lol

[@MatthewMcCleskey]

The closeup is from Empire Strikes Back - the wide shot is a Grogu plush

[@Nick.t.S]

@@MatthewMcCleskey of course it’s a Grogu plush, that makes sense. Thanks for the info and great job. Your stuff always gives me a great chuckle.

[@TheAnantaSesa]

I can be your backpack while you run

[@conman_yt7999]

@@TheAnantaSesa Swing from a hairy vine

[@fury_blade9303]

@@conman_yt7999 I can be a backpack while you climb

[@wormwoodbecomedelphinus4131]

Technique: Trakata Whilst you can turn the saber off momentarily for an advantage, botching it can be deadly since the primary shield against lightsabers a Jedi/Sith has is in fact their lightsabers.

[@sneedfeedandseed2410]

yeah, it'd maybe work if a non force user came at you with a lightsaber but most trained force users like sith and jedi are insanely fast with a lightsaber AND they can kind of predict your moves thanks to the force so the moment you turn your saber off you lose.

[@ALJ9000]

Git gud

[@elecmagpulse7385]

Those Obi-Wan and Anakin impressions were on point

[@Influfferious]

Actually in the old lore there were several various techniques with this. It even had written tactics on using the force to disable the opponents lightsaber in combat

[@thecommentguy9380]

and everyone (even the siths) agreed it was a bitch move

[@Drums_of_Liberation]

@@thecommentguy9380 Very ironic considering most sith resort to bitch moves as part of their strategy. Ie: the old beg for your life tactic

[@myduckisonqauck7227]

​@@Drums_of_LiberationVader targeted civilians to beat one jedi

[@spectreshot8536]

I love that this particular hilarity IS Canon. It's a forbidden technique and they had to have seen this.

[@knowledgeanddefense1054]

When you think about it, Luke could have just turned off his lightsaber for a second and then turn it back on soon after when Vader protected Palpatine from his swing (which for the record, I don't know why Vader did that, considering in the previous film he straight up told Luke that he wanted him to kill the emperor) would have made things a lot easier

[@ironfist7789]

As soon as he turned off the blade, vader's saber would have cut Luke in half I think

[@knowledgeanddefense1054]

@@ironfist7789 I don't know if they were set up in that angle

[@Vandicoup]

He could've cut his face in half at least lol @@knowledgeanddefense1054

[@jared4832]

I did not expect this to be as funny as it was. Brilliantly written and performed!

[@hubertrozalski7070]

As far as I remember, turning lightsaber off and on during a duel was impossible because the weapon has to "recharge".

[@atlas5100]

This was exactly what I hoped for as soon as I saw the title. Although I did think that maybe at the end ObiWan would just smack him as soon as Anakin tried it again

[@somewinner8229]

The quality of these animated renderings is getting better and better. I thought it would be years before they could render a whole lightsaber battle! 😮

[@theodoreroosevelt2154]

Someone else already pointed it out, but I find it very funny how it takes Obiwan 2 nanoseconds to start liking Anakin’s new tactic. It’s like he was focusing on his defensive tactic mindset and couldn’t comprehend a use for this weird action, but the instant he tries it on Anakin he realizes both how useful it can be in a fight, and how funny it is.

[@cpy1446]

I find this very funny bc my dad has been talking about how op is to turn off the lightsaber in mid-fight since a long time ago , and always tried to convince me with that, after this video I guess he has been right all this time😂

[@SavageAmericanThe]

Interestly enough this move is both banned by the Jedi and Sith. The Jedi veiw it has to agressive and not the Jedi way basically and the Sith veiw it has to easy and a form of weaknesses.

[@edward3190]

did they ban blinking light saber XD

[@ConstantChaos1]

Turn it off mid overhead strike and turn it back on as soon as youre passing the blades thickest point, when the saper meets the one now behind it it will be propelled forward, since they do an overhead block their blade is propelled up while your stroke downward is now propelled by the physical impossibility of overlapping sabers

[@jaxonflex5680]

Love how Yoda completely relies on some form of resistance otherwise he ends up getting himself killed with all that momentum

[@TibiaOTarena]

I always thought about this as a strategy, you turn it off as you strike so that when he parries or rather *should* have parried it is OFF and when you are passed his parry you turn it ON and you light-saber is on the other side of his guard going straight for him. I realize that the opponent could strike you as well in doing this if he reacts fast.

[@MariOmor1]

This technique was kinda used in Last Jedi: Rey turns off the Skywalker lightsaber and throws it to Kylo who re-ignites it in his enemy's face

[@mda187]

I remember the meme circulating for years about someone attacking and the person on defense turning their blade off for a split second while the blade cleared and then turning it back on to kill the attacker. It's funny to see it brought to life.

[@Animated_Artist]

I usually watch these, but this is the first one to make me crack up that scream got me 🤣

[@AE86TruenoBurr]

This technique is called trakata No one uses it because the dark side says it shows lack of power, and jedi says it shows unsportsmanlike

[@formdoggie5]

In the older books, they did actually account for this. Every lightsaber actually has a coded number of clicks, presses, and holds on the button to turn it on or off -- otherwise the person you were fighting would just turn yours off for you. Makes it difficult to pull off when your hand is often nowhere near the buttons while you are spinning and concentrating on not killing yourself with the thing, resisting being mind probed for your button combo, and resisting or concentrating enough to use the force on objects or people to do the same thing back.

[@TheDarklingWolf]

That ending absolutely sent me, beautiful.

[@beachbrothers376]

“And I’m not attached to the normal lightsaber curriculum.”😂

[@OneTrueNobody]

In the expanded universe this was actually brought up in the lore as a dueling strategy that neither the Jedi nor the Sith particularly liked. But in all practicality it would be tricky to pull on another Force-user, and a risky gambit besides, because of the whole "precognitive reflexes" thing. It strikes me as the kind of trick that would only win a fight for someone who already had an advantage against their opponent anyway.

[@kratkartan1486]

I love how Obi-Wan was at first against the idea when he was the one to do a similar move to Maul.

[@gamerdomain6618]

This is just the Trakata lightsaber form. It's actually looked down on by both the Jedi and Sith. Jedi are formal and honourable, seeing it as beneath them, while the Sith channel passion through their lightsaber combat for strength and see it as subverting their own force of will.

[@MissesWitch]

the last part where Obi-wan decides to cave in is so wholesome ❤ Love how he uses on Anakin! ❤

[@ChronoXShadow]

Problem is, if you're not already out of harms way when you shut the lightsaber off, you're not only defenseless for that one second, but also dead.

[@shadows_star]

Apart from ideologically the move being opposed for both Sith and jedi, you've pinpointed the other main reason why it isn't done by most lightsaber duelists. It's extremely risky.

[@lockedin9307]

It can be used for defense but it has it's risks, of course you would turn it off when your enemy expects you to block it but if you think about it it would be super efficient for offense since their blocking would be a waste of a move and you would turn it on pointing for example at their chest or head directly.

[@Bongoslam]

The Jedi are really gonna freak out when they learn that they use the force to turn off their opponents' lightsaber.