Twin Spark Misfires A LOT! Troubleshooting and Repair Alfa Romeo 147

[@luisnunes8826]

Bruno allways on the top of the situation, I would never guess that the source of the problem could be this!

[@alfaromeonoproblem]

Agora já sabe. Thanks for watching

[@nmarkq]

I love your work! Very emphatic guy! Thanks for your work!

[@UgurMuhtar]

Very informative video.Thanks Bruno! Cheers from Turkey.

[@alfaromeonoproblem]

Thanks for watching

[@s.arslan8337]

Hi Mr Bruno. Informative video. Thank you.

[@alfaromeonoproblem]

Thank you for watching

[@kuratage]

Keep the good work bruno. Thanks for the video

[@alfaromeonoproblem]

Thank you very much!

[@peterzoltan5839]

Very intetesting.I have 2 Alfa Gt-s with 1.8 l engines ,one with 220000 km the other with 116000 both drink approx. 1 liter in 1000 km but only if they are driven on highway, in the city oil consumption is almoust none. No smoke, no oiled sparkplugs,no error codes,very good emmision tests,clean catalysts.

[@alfaromeonoproblem]

Thank you very much

[@uranusneptun5239]

As an Alfa enthusiast I have to admit that the TwinSpark engines of that era have a lot of problems. On the other hand the JTDm engines around the same time are the complete opposite. They are indesdructable power engines. In general the Diesel is the best. The turbos don't fail. The gearboxes are very durable and so on. Especially the 8V.

[@depletedisotope]

JTD from that era was a revolutionary thing with it's common rail that was first used in a car... I hated diesel since before my 147 I drove mk4 golf TDI, but after JTD I changed my opinion and tbh. I'd drive those engines until I die if I could...

[@dominiksruk2855]

Also Alfa enthusiast and first owner of 166 twin spark 410 tkm zero problems with engine Change oil regularly, Ngk spark plugs and just hit the throttle Literally every day at least once I hit rpm limit(7300) and engine just goes and goes

[@alfaromeonoproblem]

Hello. I do agree with you

[@martinbrengartner3036]

Hi Bruno , i have for 3 Years the same Problem on a 1.6 120 hp on the 2. Zylinder with 270.000 km. Oel 1Liter - 1000 km before dead . I buy a Engine from a crash Car with 80.000 km for 450 Euro. Now i have 0,1 Liter of 1000 km😍😍

[@alfaromeonoproblem]

You got lucky! Most TS engines consume a lot of oil

[@martinbrengartner3036]

@@alfaromeonoproblem Yes, i know 😏

[@Dyt34]

Fuel pump would help easier fast start but overall a great video Bruno 👍

[@alfaromeonoproblem]

Thank you. It was really a very very tight budget..

[@goxy287]

Had exact same situation except cyl3. After the rebuild it consumes about half of what it did before but still a lot. I didnt have money for oversized pistons, we'll see how long it lasts.

[@13rekords]

Congratulations on the channel, it has helped me a lot. Now I have to replace the piston rings, do you know if unscrewing from the bottom will bring them up or is it a more difficult job? Thanks!

[@alfaromeonoproblem]

Hello. Thanks for watching and welcome! To remove the pistons, remove the head and remove the oil sump to push up the piston and conrod assembly

[@13rekords]

@@alfaromeonoproblem Great, I thought it would be more complicated. Thank you very much for your quick response, two weeks ago I subscribed after seeing your great work, I hope your channel continues to grow, you deserve it!!😄🙏

[@alfaromeonoproblem]

@13rekords thank you very much

[@DoctorP131]

Hello Bruno, thank you for the informative video. The issues caused by oil consumption worry me a bit. I have a 1.8 CF3 engine with 270k km and it uses around a litre of 10W60 every 2000/2500 km. Car runs very smoothly. If consumption stays like this, is there to tell if there will be trouble? Oil change around every 10k kilometers and most drives are 35km+, so no short distances. No rust on car and nice shape so I plan to just keep driving it. Greetings from the Netherlands

[@alfaromeonoproblem]

Hello. With that oil consumption valves can burn, catalytic converters can go bad too. Sparks plugs

[@DoctorP131]

Ok, thank you

[@nsz2302]

Good job! Most shops would have junked the engine.

[@alfaromeonoproblem]

I understand, but used ones suffer the same problem

[@atanas1328]

I’ve just found out this channel and now I’m pretty sure that my next car will be Alfa Romeo again. My current car 147 1.6 twin spark has some issue and I wouldn’t mind if I get opinion on it. So the problem is that while I drove it the cap of oil engine exploded and throw out a lot of oil. I was on the road so just cleaned it put again some oil and went back home. The car is still moving no smoke from the exhaust or when I open the oil cap or oil stick…

[@alfaromeonoproblem]

Hello, thanks for watching! It's a bit odd. The dipstick should have come out. The oil cap is screwed in, so no way it was pressure. Maybe the cap was not in place at all?

[@atanas1328]

​@@alfaromeonoproblem Yes, the dipstick was on place. The cap was screwed in. While I was driving I just heard a sound like "boom" and I heard how the cap hited the front lid. The engine bay was like pour with motor oil. Actually the car burn oil just like this one on the video but works good no power loss or something like that. When the engine works and I open the cap there is a pressure from inside out. Somebody said it's a normal somebody said the engine is blown.

[@alfaromeonoproblem]

@atanas1328 that is very odd. The cap is screwed in, no way it undid itself like that. The seals and the dipstick will come out first

[@luistelo9444]

I have an Alfa 147 1.6TS, the motor makes the diesel engine noise, do I replace the variator and the hydraulic tappets or just the variator? Do you know the price of the variator in Portugal? In other countries it's expensive and difficult to obtain. There's a kit to repair the variator, it's a spring and a plastic ring, have you repaired any variator with this kit?

[@alfaromeonoproblem]

Hello. Replace the variator if you can still find it.. upwards of 400 here in Portugal plus labour.

[@5Dale65]

I had a similiar problem with my old Stilo with 1.4 16v 90hp engine. At 240kkm it consumed 1 litre of oil for 1000km and finally burned out a valve. I have put another engine with half the mileage and guess what, the oil consumption was also a half less. I sold the car finally because it required much more money to be put in, and the engine was still not perfect and much much underpowered for a Stilo. I got another Stilo with a 1.9 jtd 115hp and there my problems ended. I was never a big enthousiast of diesels, but enough was enough.

[@alfaromeonoproblem]

Hello. The 1.9 JTD is a big difference and a big upgrade. Just do the maintenance and it will last you all your life.

[@Lentikrasniqi-w3o]

good evening my friend i want to ask you a cuestion its hard to change in engine block head gasket in my alfa romeo 156 2.0 gasoline engine to change my self its hard ore not can you tell me if you see this comment mine

[@DashCamSerbia]

Twin Spark? If so, Furious Driving (YT channel) did the head gasket himself on his 145 2.0 TS. You can see how he did it. It did not look hard.

[@alfaromeonoproblem]

Hello. It's not hard to do

[@DashCamSerbia]

I measured -18 oC freezing point of coolant in my 2.2 JTS. Based on some graph, this means I have too much water (about 60-65% of water). I will replace the whole coolant. Or at least drain the one from the expansion tank and add pure concentrate of antifreeze. eLearn says to drain the coolant on the cold engine. But how do I drain and refill the coolant that remains in the engine, since the thermostat is closed? Or is it not necessary?

[@alfaromeonoproblem]

Hello. The thermostat is irrelevant for draining. And cold is for the best so you do not have a thermal shock when filling the new cold one

[@DashCamSerbia]

@alfaromeonoproblem Thanks. Although I don't quite understand how is it so.

[@alfaromeonoproblem]

@DashCamSerbia the thermostat only closes one of the entries to the radiator, the other one is always open

[@DashCamSerbia]

@alfaromeonoproblem Ah, OK. Thanks.

[@ΧρηστοςΑθανασιου-φ1δ]

Hallo , another helpful video, i have a question , for the oversizing there are special pistons or can be yusuable from a 2lt for example, thak you

[@alfaromeonoproblem]

Hello. They must be special pistons for the same engine. Normally bigger by OD about +0.5 mm

[@lebronnaumoskinn]

Sounds like dead variator even after the rebuild, it should run even smoother. Also check PCV and all of the oxygen sensors, there are 3. I have 147 1.6 120hp facelift and had even more severe consumption so i had to change the pistons,crankshaft bearings,spark plugs and etc. Now after 8000km i have 0 oil consumption, hard to believe but it's true 🙂.

[@shaun19651]

Did not put a new variator in it.

[@alfaromeonoproblem]

Like I said in the video, it was a budget repair. Only two new valves, new Spark plugs and baskets. Not much else.

[@lebronnaumoskinn]

​@@shaun19651yes i know,by listening to the engine i think it's dead,won't do the damage just increased fuel consumption and diesel sound as far as i know.

[@lebronnaumoskinn]

​@@alfaromeonoproblemwhat was the cost for this?

[@dominiksruk2855]

@@lebronnaumoskinn it will do damage to camshafts because lots of freeplay.

[@Notrodri13]

Boas amigo, mais uma vez um probleminha no alfa 159. Já há uns tempos que por vezes começava a ouvir e sentir um chocalhar no carro quando estava a fazer o ponto de embraiagem de 1, aproveitei que tinha alguns problemas no bimassa e substitui a embraiagem toda na esperança de que tal problema fosse embora também, mas não foi nada assim. O chocalhar acompanhado de vibração forte não acontece sempre e acaba mal desligo e volto a ligar o carro, contudo já não sei se será do rolamento que está mal instalado ou outro problema qualquer. O que me recomendarias? Um abraço!

[@alfaromeonoproblem]

Olá. Talvez o meu canal em português seja mais fácil para si. Sem ouvir o barulho não sei o que possa ser. Colocou peças autodoc?

[@Notrodri13]

@ se quiser posso enviar um video para algum email. Foi numa oficina roady para minha má sorte

[@alfaromeonoproblem]

@rego3068 lá lhe meteram uma embraiagem da Luk... Que fica ainda pior

[@Notrodri13]

@ foi uma da sachs.

[@alfaromeonoproblem]

@rego3068 não pode ..

[@danieloide787b]

My 147 1.6 105 always drink around 5l oil every 10k km. But now at 225.000Km is drinking the same amount of 10W60 at 5k km... So a full rebuild it should be necessary :(

[@alfaromeonoproblem]

Hello. Try to find oversized pistons, you may need them...

[@depletedisotope]

repair with new sparkplugs costed half the price of the car ffs 😂 that's why I never liked those twinsparks anyways, what's your opinion on those engines Bruno? cheers from bosnia man, found your channel couple of days ago and learned alot

[@DashCamSerbia]

Why does everyone keep mentioning spark plugs as a disadvantage od havig a petrol engine? Spark plugs are cheap. Repairing diesel common issues costs 10-20 times more...

[@depletedisotope]

@@DashCamSerbia look at the price for twinspark spark plugs, and two come on one cilinder so 8 in total... for the price of spark plugs I can easily do small service on my JTD with some high quality selenia oil

[@DashCamSerbia]

@@depletedisotope That is nothing. You don't change the spark plugs at 10.000 km... This is a car, not a bicycle, it costs money to maintain.

[@dominiksruk2855]

I have 166 with 410 tkm. 2.0 ts. Lightened engine about 8-9 kilos. Almost every day I hit rpm limit(7300). 0 problems with engine

[@Alfafanatico]

​@@depletedisotope Real Alfa have petrol engine, diesel engine is like a cold pasta carbonara. It's eatable, but it taste like nothing.😉😀

[@Zeghetank]

That TS ticks like hell. Sorry to say, but a few tappets are not that expensive. Also a missfire can be from a bad injector. I had this problem at the begining of the year on my JTS. I've changed the injector, all the seals for all of them, mounted back and everything is great. And yes, mine consumes oil too, but there's no blue smoke! Let's say somwhere betwen 2-3l at 8k-10k km (10W-60). It consumes mostly when driving on higway.

[@alfaromeonoproblem]

As it was, was already very expensive for this customer. It was advised to do the repair replacing the essentials, but he declined. Two valves only, spark plugs and gaskets