Twitch Needs to Stop Gambling Streamers | Asmongold Reacts to Mogul Mail

Asmongold Reacts to "Twitch Needs to Stop Gambling Streamers" by Ludwig (Mogul Mail). The biggest Twitch streamer, xQc, hosts a sponsored gambling stream and thus brings attention to a larger issue. Should gambling be allowed on the platform and what can be done about it?
Twitch Needs to Stop Gambling Streamers | by Mogul Mail
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[@weeman2470]

As a gambling addict with 15 months sober, the issue here is that streamers don't show the reality of gambling and addiction that the average person will experience. Viewers don't see the financial devastation a gambling addiction causes. They don't see the lies constantly being spun to justify their behavior. They don't see the devastation inflicted on personal relationships. Gambling streams only show viewers that losing money is ok because eventually you'll hit something big. Your average teenager or young adult doesn't have the critical thinking skills to comprehend the concept of chasing loses which drives not just the addict but the entire industry. It normalizes this idea that playing slots for hours upon hours is the norm, and that if you lose quickly you just haven't spent enough yet to win. In short, the streams are normalizing and downplaying gambling addiction. The fact that online casinos are targeting streamers should raise a red flag as to their intentions. They're not targeting content creators on KZbin who have been posting gambling videos for years. They're not targeting creators with older audiences. They're specifically targeting creators with younger audiences and lower critical thinking to help normalize gambling to a new generation. I have seen a sharp increase over the past year of individuals who are as young as 13 seeking help and assistance for gambling addiction. Almost always, the main contributors of their gambling are online sportsbook and online casinos. This isn't simply an issue of adults making their own decisions, this is increasingly becoming teens and young adults being lured into this space. I am all for adults doing what they want to do. And I'm all for people having the right to gamble if they want. But personally, and in the gambling addiction community, the ease of online casinos and the nature of streams is abhorrent when younger audiences are targeted. Ultimately, a lot of young people WILL get hurt by this if sponsored streams are allowed to continue.

[@GodofLovers]

It's like drugs. Do your research, look into safety methods/health risks. Then proceed as you please. If you get fucked, it's on you. Especially if you didn't do the research.

[@weeman2470]

@@GodofLovers that's not really an apt comparison though. Everyone knows drugs can be addictive, including young people; but when it comes to gambling it's not seen the same way. As a recovering addict, very few people have actually acknowledged that gambling is a proper addiction. A fair portion people (and I would assume a generous portion young people) don't associate gambling with addiction unless it's touched them personally. I would find it really hard to believe that younger viewers of these streams would actually look into gambling, the statistics, and addiction. Hell, if everyone did this the casinos would go broke. The whole point is that when online casino games are streamed by massively influential and well off individuals, it only serves to glamorize the act of gambling without the need to research the costs. All most of those viewers know is that you push a button, reels go whhrrhhh, and you either lose or win money.

[@GodofLovers]

@@weeman2470 I'd say generally people know gambling is addicting. If we're talking about kids, then their parents need to pay attention more, and let them know the reality of gambling. My mom would make sure to if I was watching a movie or something, with gambling, for example.

[@frankmario6747]

@@GodofLovers Seriously, past 14 years old, who listened their parents ? My sister just stop listening advices from everyone in the family at this age and made really bad live choices (even we were very supportive and let her make every big decisions). Fame is everything for them and i really cant blame XQc because without proper regulations by the autorities it will continue even it's not XQC who streams. It's like seeing drug dealers give some streamer free drugs to test on streams and let the kids watching where to find some... it would not be realistic ONLY because it's prohibited by law. Really it's not that different, gambling is a drug and people waste their life on it too.

[@LDGecko]

Yooooo ASMON here. Streamers are not responsible. lol git gud.

[@Sargaxiist2022]

As a regular person it's almost nauseating to think about streamers gambling millions away in a single stream. Just $100k is life changing money for the majority of people. I know it would be for me.

[@ducksten]

People adapt to everything, even gambling avay millions of dollars can become the norm after some time. This is just how our brain works

[@darkwatershadow]

I get it but to me it's just like winning the lottery since being a streamer requires a huge amount of luck to get the audience you need to be popular/profitable. And, just like lottery winners, most of them tend to lose a ton of it through theft, being taken advantage of, bad business/investments, reckless spending, etc. The truth is most people don't know how to handle having large amounts of money because most of us will never have that kind of money. So I can't really be mad or upset at stuff like this.

[@javkhlantugstugsbayar]

You can take that argument on any celebrity's accusation of expensive collection, cars, and houses. They like to burn money, and gambling is just one of them

[@markusbetts]

The scale of the world is ever increasing, such that doing a job that creates value locally is super unlikely to compete with a job that drains money directly from the global masses. Its like most people are crawfish in a gentle economic stream, but every once in a while you see these giant tsunamis roll through from huge oceans that aggregate all streams. Not saying this is good or bad or what to do about it, just that its whats happening. Personally I think gambling websites should be subject to paying extreme taxes or face consequences, just like successful streamers.

[@Kroban_d4c]

As a latinamerican 100k dollars is literally like 20 years of work for a poor person

[@abbywoodhead2764]

Streamers have a lot of money but throwing 1.8mill in to a pit is a problem even for xqc.

[@differentcontrast7997]

The viewers are his credit card so he doesn't care, that's why he took the sponsorship

[@milospopovic819]

courtesy of getting money you havnt earned

[@ghst822]

he lost 1.8 mio but stake probably pays him 5mill a month or more. And he pays it right back to stake.

[@ornulubeats]

@@ghst822 5 mil a month?!?!?!?!?!

[@wsterx91]

BUK BUK

[@neat2014]

Gambling is literally a speed run to destroy your life

[@simpsonovci95142]

do you play lottery ? That's gambling too

[@neat2014]

@@simpsonovci95142 thankfully I don’t

[@simpsonovci95142]

@@neat2014 good for you. I know a few people from my personal circle who have strong opinion about gambling but play lottery every week... Pfff

[@neat2014]

@@simpsonovci95142 clear contradiction

[@zdwer3097]

@@neat2014 let's be honest here u would gamble to if u would get paid millions to play some slot games lol

[@TheXavierfull]

I disagree with Asmon when he talks about how doing the sponsorship when gambling is becoming normalized and thats why we shouldnt care, the problem is still there, these casinos do those deals with big stars and put ads for the purpose of becoming big and hopefuly people see it like a normal thing and stop complaining for the most part bc people will eventually get tired of doing so, gambling is one of the addictions with the highest suicide rates and that the biggest streamer is influencing his young fanbase that love him is very worrying for the platform.

[@smccann1998]

Asmon tends to rationalize the morality of an action based off of how popular the action is at any point in time. He paints it as him being a realist but I tend to see him as being malleable and defeatist. He is very "If you can't beat them, join them". We see the same thing to how he crumbled into microtransactions with Lost Ark. Now he states if gambling is popular enough he would make his own gambling site, like wtf. Honestly it's one of the things I dislike most about him, he doesn't really have any viewpoints or pillars he stands by and tends to submit to whatever is popular in public opinion as long as he can benefit from it.

[@yangtsur]

@@smccann1998 perhaps is because streamer values things in different standard than viewers. The viewer count which is the popularity of anything is the primary aspect for them the evaluate certain event. Others don't matter. Though I don't think Asmond isn't the kind to do anything for views, he doesn't need to. Yet it does seem he is more okay with things as long as it is been "normalized" anyway, he has his opinion i have mine, I don't say who is right, opinion is just opinion.

[@ikmalt9851]

@Sean McCann imagine believing Asmon is going to make his own website on gambling when there's tons of gambling websites. Think a bit, its the internet...

[@Kage-jk4pj]

I've never disagreed with Asmon more than this video. Stake gives the streamer a percentage of all his viewers losses. Its so exploitative.

[@ikmalt9851]

@@smccann1998 Asmon also said that the root problem is Twitch that allows gambling to happen in the website in the first place and should be removed. Isn't this his stance?

[@ashleywilson8306]

The danger is these streamers in particular are 'functioning' addicts because they can afford to gamble and lose millions and it doesnt impact them really financially. Ultimately however, there is potential that for whatever reason this bubble will burst, the gambling streams will be stopped and they will not be paid this money anymore. Will they keep gambling off stream, seems that way. Someone will eventually lose it all and there will be consequences. And thats just these big streamers who can 'afford' to gamble. I am sure there are a lot of kids, young adults and adults who watch the content, gamble, lose and regret it. Ultimately the content is damaging and harmful, and should be stopped. I agree, its a problem in wider society not just twitch. Gambling advertising in sport in the UK is a huge issue which needs to be dealt with, its just as damaging as smoking or alcohol which are banned from sponsoring teams in sport here. Ultimately it should be stopped on twitch.

[@charpa2891]

At least UK betting apps and websites you have to prove you're 18 before even placing a bet. I don't think its the same with crypto websites like stake. I may be wrong on that but that's what I've gathered! Same problem with the csgo gambling websites. You didn't have to prove you were 18 so you had 14 year olds gambling £100s at a time

[@tj970]

arent they grown adults. who cares. its their money. why do people care so much. if you feel you’re going to gamble because you watched someone gamble (??) then maybe dont watch it? Like maybe dont be dumb? I don’t get this argument.

[@rexqt5337]

@@mattb6646 losers 😂

[@poof8342]

@@tj970 maybe it’s just the fact that there will be people who are naive, lack common sense, or desperate for money who will follow these gambling streamers thinking and coping that they could win as much as them. I know it’s natural selection and it’s their own fault, but people are not perfect or make mistakes, and by the time they realize it’s wrong, it’s too late.

[@tj970]

@@poof8342 sucks to suck then 🤷‍♂️

[@NotRealPhil]

This is one of those topics that Asmon takes a really weird fence-sitting position on. Regardless of how much the sponsorships are paying out per streamer, or how “normalized” it becomes, there’s a pretty clear reason a website would target them and their base.

[@demonvictim]

I can understand the viewpoint imagine the lifetime of a gaming streamer. Joe Rogan went exclusive to Spotify for 100m. Xqc is going to drop off at some point and fans will someday leave. Xqc leads a expensive lifestyle with gambling and might genuinely need gambling to handle it

[@demonvictim]

@@imJet it doesn't matter whatever you think it matters whatever he thinks since it's his actions. If he has the feeling of I can't sustain this then its his choices. Doesn't matter if he is a millionaire or billionaire you can end up broke as long as you keep overreaching

[@demonvictim]

@@imJet you can understand the mindset and not sympathize with them.

[@imJet]

@@demonvictim Yes, and you can also criticize them.

[@NotRealPhil]

@@DoctorOaks Your memory of the contents within this video seems to be lacking. Asmon frequently contradicted his opening stances throughout.

[@SloppySyntax]

The problem with Stake is that the streamer is getting a cut of their viewers losses. Hasan explained this pretty well on one of his streams. If you're being sponsored by Stake, you're profiting off your viewers losing money.

[@Metallijosh100]

Holy shit that's insane lol

[@SloppySyntax]

@@SR-fs2fd How is that the same? When you "donate" to a streamer you aren't expecting to potentially triple your money.

[@YourBoyGunther]

It's not a stake problem its every online casino lmao. And streamers like xqc and train don't profit off their viewers losses. In order to achieve that like someone like Roshtein, people have to sign up with your affiliate code.

[@JP-ot2hb]

@@YourBoyGunther The point is the company makes money off their losses and then pays the streamer. So indirectly it is true.

[@DoYouSmokeKush]

@@SloppySyntax but you're still WASTING your money lmao..

[@Pvrge.]

Imagine donating to a streamer only for him to gamble with this money lmao

[@Userdoesnotexit]

Imagine donating to streamer.

[@unknowniam121]

Imagine streaming to donate.

[@verloxius4442]

Imagine commenting about streaming to donate.

[@Yeeeeeeeeaaaaah]

Imagine Imagining these things

[@spencerfoote6977]

@@ufuk5872 For real 💀

[@StephenSpring1]

Asmons take at 14:40 is so short sighted. There's a reason Joe Camel isn't allowed in advertisements. Like it or not, Twitch is a gaming platform geared towards young people. Over 40% are in the 16-24 y/o age bracket. I would weight a heavy amount are under the legal gambling age.

[@jimmyc00l]

'Twitch is a gaming platform geared towards young people.'... says who? same shitty take from people who lose their minds over people like amouranth. Nobody ever said twitch is gaming only.

[@Imeggscelent]

it was originally intended for gaming. That's the whole reason twitch was created. Nowadays the platform evolved into having all these just chatting or whatever the fuck else style streams. But gaming is still very very prominently shown, streamed, and viewed

[@MrWilliGaming]

He said multiple times that he doesn't care about people and since he is not enticed by the promise of nicotine he does not give a fuck if 10k people he doesn't know die. he said so multiple times don't be surprised.

[@zaywyd5463]

I agree. Seeing a sign at the gas station at the checkout where primarily adults pay is so different from what he’s implying. It seems like he’s implying there’s a power ball ticket next to the megatron action figures.

[@Paperjelly]

@@jimmyc00l Calm down. No one asked you.

[@1Apep1]

When there is a whole industry paying the best marketing professionals and literal psychologists a shitload of money to figure out the best ways to get people addicted, we should not put the main blame on the people getting addicted. Yes, generally everyone is responsible for their own actions but there are limits for what we can expect people to deal with. You don't blame the guy getting shot for standing in the way, when the shooter was actively aiming at him.

[@viodeadinside2938]

Damn this comment hits.

[@ince55ant]

couldnt put it better myself. The psychological barrage people are put under is obscene. Its maddening how those in power just completely ignore the manipulation tactics everyone is vicitim of. (though why they dont legislate is depressingly obvious) I always think of coca-cola or mcdonalds, not a soul on this planet doesnt know these brands and thier products, yet they spend immense amounts of money on marketing.

[@patrickb1303]

Hahaha so true. Imagine blaming crack heads for crack, and not the dealers.

[@janterri3539]

@@wej0w There is no way to enforce that dude

[@lewiserox]

Listen man. I hate victim blaming as much as the next guy, but xQc needs to get help for his addiction and that's most viewer's concerns. Also Twitch should do something about gambling streams. But stake probably has a hold on them by their wallets.

[@SirGuifoyle]

Asmon and his discussions on addiction.. Whenever he goes off about drugs, alcohol, or any form of substance abuse he makes it abundantly clear that he thinks those people are weak. It hurts, as a recovered alcoholic. Why give these guys a pass and defend them so stubbornly? Because they participate in the same profession as you? Love Zach, but he needs to educate himself a bit before making conceited & contradictory blanket statements regarding addiction.

[@mk_gamíng0609]

I think because it does not effect him, he does not care

[@Dustaroo]

He is an advocate for personally responsibility and talks about how even his destructive life choices are going to haunt him they already have but he will keep going until he cant. he admits it. he does practice what he preaches. You should not be taking life advice from asmond. just enjoy his content.

[@stadiumarcadium2351]

he is only projecting how he felt about his mother she was willing to risk blowing up and just keep smoking, addicts have dopamine issues its not weakness it starts at a dna level.

[@johngear1415]

As addicts, myself former gambling addict for sure we are weak people. You NEED to be strong to get yourself free of an addiction.

[@Archy__]

@@johngear1415 There is a growing scientific consensus about understanding addiction as a disease. Modern social stigmas and cues about personal responsibility obfuscate the discourse. Pain&pleasure impact the same region of the brain. It isn’t personal weakness but neuroscience.

[@toniscepanovic2938]

14:22 Apparently advertising gambling to children is not an issue, It's completely fine says Asmongold.

[@toniscepanovic2938]

@@lightkira4119 He's got no point, that shit needs to be regulated as neither is fine, nor building casinos or any type of betting house close to highschools.

[@yScribblezHD]

@@toniscepanovic2938 Pretty sure it is regulated, that's why gambling streams are 18+.

[@madsthehuman9111]

@@jebalitabb8228 Bro what? Maybe their parents are working multiple jobs? Should we actually remove all age regulations and let kids have access to all things like clubs, bars, drugs, medicine, alcohol, because it's their parents responsibility to stop them?

[@LosianOne]

@@yScribblezHD lmao I'm sure that is so well policed....

[@tannerrowland7537]

Smoking streams when?

[@BumboDClown]

“Showing kids isn’t the issue”, it’s the “people who are prone to addiction”. You big streamer personalities with your echo chambers need like the slightest bit of understanding about psychology and development of a child’s brain to realize that watching a person you look up to as a kid- Train, Ludwig, xQC, gamble away massive amounts of money leads to the development of addictive personality. Big voices like yours Asmon, need to be more responsible with spreading that information. We are damaging young people in their development and setting them up to be the only people that ludwig and Asmon empathize with- the addicts. It’s so backwards. Stop the problem at the root. Asmons takes in this video we’re hot garbage man. So disappointing to hear the justification of perteptuating this issue as basically “bad people are gunna suck so let me fall into all the traps they want”, “don’t blame the streamer because they are just making money and exploiting twitch”. Such selfish and individualist sentiment. It’s gross. Ludwig’s video is a cry for help for himself and his friends because the only people he can see this problem hurting are the people he interacts with, not the youth and impressionable young people that watch them. People gotta be a lot less prideful these days. And realize that participating in watching this stuff is hurting us as a whole down the line.

[@xymoriintus]

It's not his responsibility how some kid chooses to live their life and make their own choices

[@neppeth]

How can you actually compere the loterry tickets to kids watching their favorite streamer online gambling on some stupid websites?

[@spencerfoote6977]

I think the statistics of it? It’s little hard to compare though that’s fair

[@chelronin7843]

@@spencerfoote6977 its just completely wrong, asmon is talking out of his ass here

[@th3ch0z3n]

The problem with gambling is that it messes with your mind. The moment you start winning the next time the amount won is not good enough anymore so you start betting higher. I have a family member that was a multi multi millionaire, he lost about 90 million between 2014-2017. He is now bankrupt and his child's trust fund might be liquidated to live on.

[@peanutbutter625]

This. Even in the short clip at the beginning, either xqc or ludwig (i forgot) mentioned gambling was the only way for them to get their dopamine high. Playing and winning games, even earning no longer do. Gambling is a bit of like psychosomatic heroin.

[@ttred7621]

That’s crazy scary. He could have just never lifted a finger and everything would’ve been fine

[@KingEdward365]

Literally the only people saying GIGACHAD and TRUE in chat whenever Asmon dismisses the effects of these Big Streamers who promote gambling are 13 year old kids using their mom's credit cards who don't understand the dangers of the real world yet

[@andrewbyrnes6389]

Imagine the kids watching the stream and seeing the big streamer winning 16 mill. Those kids are gonna gamble the rest of their lives. This shit is so unethical.

[@Simiocrates]

Sounds like a parenting problem to me

[@dreytondavis8278]

The streams are deemed 18+ by the streamer..... If a kid is watching, that's parental negligence.

[@SrBird74]

The streamers are not their parents

[@andrewbyrnes6389]

Firstly, some people have bad parents- that doesn’t mean there shouldn’t be measures in place to at least ATTEMPT to keep harmful content away from them. Second, It’s about the law being consistent. Twitch is a platform predominantly used by people under 18. The law doesn’t allow you to bring your kids into the pub and watch you on the slots. The law doesn’t let you bring your kid into the casino.

[@bluebarrymore5442]

you cant just say " i am not a rolemodel" when people are watching you 40+ hours a week. you are remodels however you act, some of your fans will act the same. asmongold there are literally thousands of people following in your foot steps but they have no money and no future. you can say it not you responsible all day, but you are still the reason for those people.

[@bluebarrymore5442]

@@jebalitabb8228 asmongold is pretty emotional that is like 90% of his arguments "people suck" "no one cares"

[@0.001mm_tolerancy]

@@jebalitabb8228 He does read these comments and Blue Barrymore isn't appealing to him in an emotional way, he's speaking facts. Just because Asmon doesn't view himself as a role model doesn't mean that he isn't one. He has a lot of consistent viewers and even if he doesn't want to admit it, he has an impact on them.

[@fabianrojas9028]

It makes me so sad to know there is people with the ability to literally gamble millions while I’m here depressed, unemployed and swimming in debt

[@woiken3957]

​@@HiddenEvilStudios anime protagonist moment

[@robbruh1661]

people working there ass off to barwly survive , meanwhile you have all this streamer stuff. as much as I enjoy asmons content and like him for who he is its juat surreal that people like him and other streamer get such insane amount of money for little work compared to others qho actually contribute to society.. I know its nothing new and all just had this realization again since my father had to go to hospital for working too hard

[@woiken3957]

@@HiddenEvilStudios I tried and, and it woke my dormant power to believe in myself and it awakened my devil fruit

[@fabianrojas9028]

@@HiddenEvilStudios u talk like If u knew me and assumed that I don’t do anything to change my situation

[@fabianrojas9028]

@@RevanBC omg how could I not think about that!? I just need to find a job! The audacity of some people ….

[@catinapint469]

There are many falacies on this video and generally on asmongold's view on this. He is right to an extent but the general idea is basically an arms dealer saying: "it is not my fault, people decide to kill each other", "even if i dont sell weapons someone else will", etc. The said arms dealer would be right to an extent when saying these, but this does not mean that: 1- we should normalise it 2- he is right, because just because someone else will do something bad, that does not mean it is an excuse for you to do so as well. If that was true everyone would be a rapist and a murderer. Of course these thing are illegal, so it is not the same, I am just compairing the general idea. These sayings are attempts to put the blame away from themselves. This does not mean that the state is not responsible, or people are not responsible for themselves, but it also does not mean that the streamers are not rensponsible for their actions.

[@styxzero1675]

Why is gambling even allowed on twitch? Just make it against TOS. Also regarding "loopholes" we all know what gambling is and twitch can just specify what falls under the term gambling like slots, cards etc for real money.

[@aliaswal3474]

I know a guy who started death roll gambling in wow classic after being influenced by a "winning" streamer. During one month, every time I login (night or week) he was there, same place, gambling all his money, stuff and even his place on a raid. Few weeks later a common friend said to me that his girl kicked him from her home because he was already pretending during all this time going to work, buy gold with real money to gamble and finally spent 8k dollars a day on online gamblings... Online gamblings are the worst 'cause these people don't feel the wallet getting empty, everything is made to be compulsive and unreal. Gamblers are ill but those streamers/companies are the real desease

[@ince55ant]

its not that they're ill its that our brains never got the evolutionary need to deal with these things. We had to invent things like probability math theories because of this. Corporations need game theory to make decisions because they recognise how bad humans are at making these decisions.

[@NCRRanger7753]

I have a feeling it's so popular because viewers want to see the streamer lose everything and have a stroke. Just like Nascar and violent crashes. The lottery is nothing but boring to kids. Their favorite streamer playing essentially a video game and having epic celebrations when winning is a totally different thing. That would snag my attention to start gambling if it were around when I was a kid. That's what people mean by marketing to kids.

[@MATCHLESS789]

"People will always choose personal gain over morality" - sounds like someone with no morality would say. Maybe it is true if you look at it as "there will always be people" who do that, but that is just completely untrue as a statement.

[@ligmafigma9631]

Asmons not shy about his scumminess. He calls himself a lowlife pos frequently. I wonder why people take anything coming out of his mouth to be of high moral value when the guy doesn't think he's a good person himself. Gotta love parasocial eceleb relationships

[@janniknielsen9292]

Asmon has admitted he scammed people back in the day. He is projecting his own mindset on the rest of the world to make a point.

[@ImArchiie]

'Gambling is normalized and popular now, so it's okay' is the only take I got from Asmon.

[@thundersnail]

As someone who have recovered from a gambling addiction, losing up towards the 40k$ (to alot of people this shit is alot of money, and it was for me over the years). Seeing how relaxed people are about it in the US is kinda shocking. Asmon is correct on the entire putting money into a game where u know u won't get it back. I still buy my shitty lootboxes. But I'll never gamble with my money to try and get more money back. There is a difference, and one of them is wayyyyyyyy worse and more addictive than the other. I dont understand how streamers in general are trying to defend themselves, I like Asmon and I have been watching him for a long ass time. But defending some of these streamers cus they are your friends is fucking distasteful. One day they will not be sponsored anymore, and they will gamble away all the remaining cash they have if given enough time. Unless they seek help. I used to like Train as well, but oh well. I hope him and XQC get some real help whenever they are done with gambling streams and have to do it on the side to feed their hunger.

[@swizzblue1]

These streamers are becoming witch doctors of psychology and morality. It's funny how streamers are exempt from all responsibility and we must rely on big corp to have the moral code that individuals don't have??? The people to blame are the streamers if non of them would take these money deals then none of this would be a problem Twitch is okay with girls like amouranth getting half naked in a pumped up pool and writing donator's name in a giant banana floaty but they should ban gambling? And these streamers are all friends with each other so that's why you can't blame them

[@Doofens]

nah thats what the government would be responsible for. streamers are just one man companys doing whatever isn't illegal. it's either twitch banning gambling streams or the government making it illegal to advertise gambling

[@Iloveidiots1]

That stat of 60% of people have gambled includes people that put a quarter in a slot machine or bought a lottery ticket during the big jack pots. That number would be way different if the question was something like "Do you gamble once a month, twice month, every day..."

[@000petar000]

Doesn't matter, that number was just tossed around to show how many people have actually tried it, some of them would probably get really addicted if they went deeper instead of just doing it one time. If 60% people are willing to try something that anyone can figure out, when i was a kid i never wanted to gamble in real casinos because of the odds always favoring the house. I gambled with my friends when i could scam them out of their money. Gambling can be really addictive, there was a link i think Train showed that his viewers lost millions of dollars from one of his links that he advertised, that was months or half a year ago, not really sure but by now they probably lost much more. He can't get paid so that gambling sites are losing money, if they are paying Train for example 4 million a month, they are making much more from his viewers.

[@Iloveidiots1]

@@jamiem2494 The stat is intended to make seem like gambling effects 60% of people. I'm not saying the stat is irrelevant, it's the way it's used that I don't like. I view it the same way the DHS and a previous president changed the meaning on "Mass Shootings" so that now the US seeing a "Mass Shooting" multiple times a day. Gives the government agency to say "Mass Shootings have grown by 90%..." (Hyperbole). It's narrative stat, not a stat that shows true relevance.

[@GuberShep]

Addiction is a hell of a drug.

[@vindikaktus]

Watching X play slots is literally like watching an alcoholic chugging whiskey, and the whiskey is free.

[@stadiumarcadium2351]

@@vindikaktus alchol increases gaba, gambling releases dopamine enjoy your new digital hell.

[@T3FAT]

One issue with saying it's very popular with gamblings streams is that you trust in Twitch view numbers. We have seen youtube, spotify, games (Lost Ark) all manipulating numbers with bots. If the casino earns so much money and being is such a lucrative business I would argue it's not hard to guess they buy views on streams either to make it seem more popular and acceptable than it is. For numbers to be trusted we need a verified user system... But that is a huge debate in itself.

[@T3FAT]

I also don't think just saying it's Twitch responsibility is enough. We the people need to push Twitch to bring it off. If people don't complain then I bet Twitch see no reason for not earning more money

[@mythoceanas8874]

I get Asmons point of view on this, I live in a town with a lot of Casino's and used to work in a convince store with scratch offs. By law payout and/or odds have to be posted, each scratch off has odds on the back and Casinos have to post payout for each category of machine. People don't care, I think at most Twitch should ban gambling and at least require that gambling streamers follow rules like Casino's have to. Casinos have to have gambling addiction hotline phone numbers posted everywhere and show odds and disclaimers on games. Also, to note most of the websites are probably hosted from some place where there are no regulations and so they don't have to post odds. Which is why I think the minimum is that Twitch should require the Sponsor and Streamer to show those odds. Native American Casinos are a big deal because they are not regulated at all, and why the stereotype exists that the games are rigged, as an example.

[@ajrocks44]

As soon as he said he doesn't understand why people gamble he loses all credibility to speak about gambling.

[@ajrocks44]

@@andresguerrero3347 totally different, people who have gambling, drugs, alcohol addictions are not the same as people who murder and you should know that. This is what is called a false equivalence.

[@paradise7235]

@@ajrocks44 maybe but it's the same concept.

[@chelronin7843]

@@paradise7235 no its not, addiction is completely different. Theres multiple studies showing how addiction works and people still insist on being ignorant of the subject

[@TheStyx16]

My father has always owned little casinos since I was a kid, I even worked in some of those during school for quite some time. Anway I really really gotta disagree with the point being made around 15:00 because while yes, these kids cannot buy lottery tickets or play in these online casinos themselves you have to understand that especially this type of gambling is about simple Pavlovian conditioning. Meaning the game shows a symbol or makes a sound and uses that to train a neurological response. That's why whenever someone gets a huge win in a casino and the slot machine plays a respective sound you will see EVERY head turn into that direction IMMEDIATELY. Like this is how badly addicts are conditioned by these games, and kids watching these games simply gain a much higher tedency towards addiction. Hell here in Germany (and I think lots of other places too) casinos have to cover their windows completely so you can't even look inside and generally kids are completely forbidden from even entering those establishments simply due to the fact of just how impressionable they are. Yes, most people are okay with gambling, my state even has it's own casinos due to "the people's need for gambling" but still.. this shit CANNOT fly without rules and regulations. We HAVE to offer numbers for addiction hotlines and contact data for help organisations, yet kids can get the rush of gambling online without consequences? Nuh uh. Those fucking online scammers are disgusting for running those ad campaigns, and the streamers and Twitch are even worse for indulging them.

[@elthongonzalez6345]

Makes sense.

[@madsthehuman9111]

Based.

[@9529jake]

The hypocrisy is very strong with xQc and what Ludwig says about streamers and morality is very flawed. Also xQc said "just turn of you computer" just cause morality doesn't matter its about his entertainment. Well that's fine and all until you realize xQc called speed out for being toxic on valorant. Same argument could be said that the player could just mute toxic people. If streamers wanna be degenerate it's fine but whenever they do something worse that actually hurts people it's everyone else at fault. The double standards and high horse arguments are what annoys me.

[@ElderBishopPastorReverendOssie]

He is ruining his life and you are feeding that addiction Asmon. He’s gotta fucking stop

[@Daisieheart]

it's infuriating how people say "just don't gamble" to an addict, that's the same as telling an alcoholic not to drink or a drug addict not to snort it's nearly impossible to "not do" without help

[@Daisieheart]

@@jebalitabb8228 no there isn't. Any psychiatrist/psychologist will tell you it's a serious addiction. It has to do with the chemicals IN YOUR BRAIN if anything it's worse that nicotine addiction because you CHOSE to smoke knowing addiction was a possibility but this is a natural issue

[@fugojohn]

@@jebalitabb8228 looks like someone lack knowledge in neuroscience, yet talks like he knows. Not hard to google things before commenting so you wouldn't make yourself look like a fool. Gaming addiction is literally classified as addictive disorder which have loads of similarities to drug and alcoholics addicts. Gambling behavior also activates reward system in your brain exactly like drugs, how is it not the same? Just because gambling addiction doesn't have withdrawal effects physically, doesn't mean there is none mentally and during gambling activity having negative physical impact.

[@almightyoxx]

After the whole CS:GO skin gambling debacle I absolutely refuse to trust any streamer that is taking sponsorships or money from a gambling service. It’s so shady. It’s so irresponsible and selfish to just say IDGAF if I’m influencing people negatively I’m doing what I want

[@AddictedToMusicGR]

As a gambling addict it’s really hard to stop yes you can uninstall apps from your phone but it’s never that easy especially if you win some times you get like that rush when you win although is worse to keep in mind that when you win you never think how much you lost so you keep playing thinking you win but you lose so

[@goodboy7721]

My only issue is with sponsorships from gambling sites. I think if you are sponsored you should be required to constantly have a BIG sign on-screen stating so. Not just "Sponsored" but something along the lines "I'm getting paid {X amount per Y} to gamble on this website". If you don't want to disclose the amounts then you should get perma-ed for gambling

[@Zeit247]

I feel like Sykkuno was the only honest one among all popular streamers giving his opinion about this, because he was the only one that actually admitted to not wanting to touch the topic too much because the main culprits are his streamer friends. Everyone else just ignored or handwaved that fact despite being one of the main reasons why gambling streams are a thing, just to not be confrontational towards their streamer friends. The "Slots" category had almost 200K viewers, and over half of those were XQC alone - to say that the individual streamers are not worth being held accountable is disingenous at best. They say _"go complain to Twitch about it"._ Well, guess what: Twitch would see that the problem is literally like 3 guys and address *them* before addressing gambling streams as a whole since that is easier, the same way they did for the "copyright meta" which, by the way, XQC was once again part of them. Twitch did not change their copyright TOS, they simply banned the streamers causing issues. The same will happen here if gambling streams get out of hand and Twitch feels like they may be held legally liable for them: they will just start handing out bans, not changing their TOS for anything other than I guess removing the Slots category. As a rule of thumb, think of it this way: if a problem on Twitch can be over 95% removed by simply banning or moderating the streams of 3 top streamers or less, then it is not a Twitch problem, it is a _streamer_ problem and should be treated as such, so yes, people ARE right to call out individual streamers for this particular case the same way people did for purposeful copyright infringements back then, and it worked for that one, so I do not see why it would not work here as well.

[@liamglasel]

I'm addicted to gambling online. Thankfully I've had the knowledge to force limiters on myself and my spending on the websites I use and I have a set amount that I can spend every month and no higher. I have myself blacklisted from over 40 gambling sites because I will just create a new account and put more in. Thankfully I saw the pattern early and put gates in place for myself so I cant go off the handle (online at least), but it IS A PROBLEM. I know im going to lose, I know its stupid, but I can't help it. I feel bad for a lot of people who get into it and lose everything because the "pull" of it while youre in that headspace and aren't able to get the support they need or have the capability or forcing restrictions upon themselves. One thing I am happy about though is trains gamba streams, it really gives me perspective of how bad the system really is, but also allows me to enjoy it with no risk, albeit with a much lower rush when he wins big compared to when you win big personally. Ultimately though I think online gamba should be 100% illegal worldwide, its TOO easy to put money in, TOO easy to do it at 3.15 am while your sleep deprived and not thinking. At least if you visit a casino or a gamba establishment you are grounded enough to have to have gotten yourself there, there's at least a barrier of entry being "you have to leave the house" I doubt anyone will read this but this is how I think and feel.

[@stadiumarcadium2351]

making it illegal does nothing my brother in law works at an online gambling platform they buy loads of domains each time one goes down and their users get an email to it.

[@liamglasel]

@@stadiumarcadium2351 do I think it will fix the problem? No. Do I think it'll put a barrier as a general deterrence? Yeah Most gamblers aren't gamblers to begin with and just do it for a bit of fun which can easily get out of hand and any level of inconvenience put in place is a positive thing when it comes to online gamba, in my opinion.

[@YourAverageBunny]

On a more lighthearted note, Ludwig make great faces. Every pause is golden.

[@mague2169]

I had my share of slight gambling addiction in my younger days. We had slots in the bar I worked in and I would often sit down after work and on occasion gamble away what I've earned that day. In this environment I got to know quite a lot of people with gambling addictions, some more severe than others. One thing I can say from my experience is that for none of them, gambling has been a net positive in any way. Whoever gambles regularly is losing out, just by the nature of how it works. If you are addicted, your daily routine is revolving around that addiction. They would start loaning money, their relationships would suffer because they'd get into arguments with their partners, sometimes they wouldn't be able to pay their bills, their attention is going towards the slot machines, not the people around them. It is pretty rough to see someone go from throwing their first few bucks into a slot machine to becoming a fully fledged addict that sits in front of the machine every single day. Now, I'm holding myself acountable for whatever gambling I did in my past and I'm still doing today. And I think others should aswell. However, there is a reason why society as a whole sometimes intervenes and sets up rules and regulations in order to protect everyone. It's why we have traffic regulations for example. We cannot trust the individual to always do the right thing, so we come up with a set of rules for the greater good. Even though I think gambling shouldn't be prohibited altogether, normalizing it isn't the greatest idea in my opinion. We have bigger streamers gambling away thousands if not hundreds of thousands of dollars in a heartbeat, while viewers are cheering them on. They are showing a form of gambling that is completely detached from an average person's reality. They are not showing the consequences of losing their "hard earned money". So viewers, especially younger ones, are mostly seeing the entertainment factor, not the negative aspects. I'm not so sure if they can put things into perspective. Also, normalizing gambling has already shown to creep in to other forms of entertainment throughout the last decade, like gaming. The more accepting we are of gambling systems, the more we are going to get in our games. I for one don't really enjoy that every other game is fundamentally a gacha these days. At some point we went from gambling with our play time to gambling with our money. Why is that? Not because we asked for it, but because developers slowly but steadily tested the waters and implemented gambling into their games until it became normalized. And now we're in this situation where games aren't as good as they could be, because they have artificially created problems that you can buy the solution to. And here we all are saying: "It is what it is." I think normalizing gambling contributes to that. Over here in europe, governments have already started to regulate gambling to quite a large extent. Online casinos for example, have been made so god damn inconvenient and unfun that I don't even bother with them anymore. In germany, they did the same for on location slot machines. Some countries banned gambling altogether. I think in the grand scope of things, regulating gambling is a good thing, because it is not a sustainable form of entertainment, it's highly manipulative and the possible negative consqeuences are severe. For the same reason, I would like to see gambling in games being regulated aswell. I'd prefer to go back to knowing what my money can buy rather than taking an off chance to get something at all.` I think it is unhealthy for everyone involved in the long run. Just my two cents, take everything with a grain of salt. Cheers

[@fernandocosta9320]

I would also like to remind you guys that in some countries gambling is illegal.

[@athalonARC]

And how many of those have illegal gambling?

[@Divulgation88]

See we should be fighting back on the normalization of sponsored gambling. Gambling addiction is a very real thing and showing kids their idols having a blast doing it is terrible. These streamers are multimillionaires with literally nothing to lose and when they do lose their mass followers throw more money at them and keep them going.

[@meltygear5955]

How certain are we that the increases viewership is organic, that is it's real people tuning in, and not Stake themselves buffing up their ad streams with viewbots? Because this has been done before and still happens with big sponsored streams all the time.

[@dangalanga6941]

It’s the whole “ I didn’t lie, I changed my mind” lol

[@wcf312]

The worst thing a gambler can ever do is WIN, if they only ever lost they'd never get addicted.

[@ZomgZomg007]

Asking a gambling addict their POV on gambling is like asking a blind man his thoughts on the sunset

[@LosianOne]

"Its illegal in the US" someone who doesn't realize if you are in the US you have to use a VPN through another country to use the site.

[@CauseQ]

In Pizzerias ( NOT CHAIN, I am talking about old school pizzeria's ) They have those Toys you put a Quarter in to get a Random toy. Its a Gamble to try and get the One Toy You WANT. Gambling is introduced WAY early on

[@whoahanant]

I don't blame people for leaving his channels. Even if he's being sponsored he's still gambling the money his viewers give him so of course many are going to be upset. A lot of people give money to streamers and creators to support them then to realize that they might be supporting a gambling addiction. It should be something a viewer takes into consideration. I think a gambling stream every now and then is fine but when you see a person is doing it more and more then they explain they do it off stream and get sponsorships for gambling. It's a good guess that it isn't a fun thing to do once every year anymore, it's an addiction.

[@juzkful]

„Supporting“ the most successful streamer with your fkn pocket change, ppl are delusional….

[@spencerfoote6977]

Why did your Max0r videos get removed? Stolen content? Or no

[@Kody742]

First, gambling comes in many forms so a 60 percent stat includes so many forms, not just unregulated offshore casinos. Second, if you ask someone if they are okay with gambling, most, including I, would generally say yes. For example, gambling on a game of 2k with my buddies or buying a $2 regulated scratcher is different from completely unregulated online casinos operating out of safe-haven countries. I also do love that streamers have a seemingly self-serving opinion that streamers aren't at fault for encouraging gambling and receiving millions for doing it. Obviously, blame the platform as well but twitch isn't getting paid millions directly by these companies. There is no other industry where we would pretend that the parties getting paid millions to promote something aren't responsible for promoting it. Many actually receive percentage of losses, how are they not responsible in a moral sense?

[@Seto_Saotome]

Gambling websites are practically pharmaceutical companies, you're paying them to get a certain high out of it, the more money, the stronger it will be. And too much of it, you'll become addicted. These sponsored casino websites are like drug dealers feeding these people addiction to promote their product, and bring in more addicts.

[@Magerquark]

Gambling having more viewers than other stuff doesn't mean that it's better content Asmon. Gotta say he has opinions in here I don't agree with at all Also in real life, kids have no entry into casinos, noone knows how it is until they actually step in, that's a HUGE wall of entry. Online however these streamers introduce gambling to their entire viewership

[@nom6758]

I mean, better content = more views, generally on twitch. There are rare cases where a very good streamer is just undiscovered but what I've said is generally the norm. You can point out singular instances of good streamers with low viewership, but that doesnt change the fact that gambling sites are specifically designed to be "good content" in the sense that they check all the required dopamine rushes. They're witnessing a train crash happen in real time, and the last time I checked, people dont usually turn away from train crashes. You're own personal belief might be different, which is fine, I'm just stating the reality of the situation.

[@spencerfoote6977]

Xqc really called himself a villain “one bad day is what it takes and I’m the villain” in chat. What antisocial crap lmao.

[@ace7765]

Dont watch than lul

[@spencerfoote6977]

@@ace7765 I’m not now lol.

[@abui6914]

I think what's worse about online gambling sponsored stream is they can put like 2x 4x luck multiplier into the streamer and tricking people to believe they will actually got the same luck, and when they tried it they just fucked up in like 1 hour of gameplay

[@bcnicholas123]

I used to go to the casino several times a week and lost thousands over the course of a few years. Thankfully I haven’t been to a casino in over year now. It seems innocent at first but it can quickly spiral out of control and destroy you

[@TheDirtyShaman]

It just goes to show how stark of a difference there is between individual streamers. On one side there are streamers that blame you for enabling them by watching and on the other side are streamers like Kripp that realized the immense influence they have over other peoples lives, whether they want it or not, and try to give as much as possible back to their community, because they actually care about them.

[@zoshida]

22 seconds, i had just checked your channel LULE

[@Every1sFavritFreshie]

I live my life by a simple motto, "Luck runs out." These people would benefit from that mindset. The more you rely on luck in a decision, the more likely it is to turn out bad. Rely on skill, not luck, to get your way through life.

[@Ronaldopopkings]

Casinos dont pay gambling streamers, what they do is give them really good either deposit bonuses they have to wager x amount of times. Or a free sum to gamble with, but they cant withdraw untill they wagered it x amount of times (often losing the entire sum, thus costing the casino zero dollars).

[@enea4611]

You have no idea what youre talking about

[@erich1380]

i don't understand how trains stream has such a high count. his KZbin channel is dead AF in comparison to asmon and many others

[@erycknovaes1420]

Honestly, straight up, i cannot undestand a single word XQC says

[@duhotatoday3277]

True lmao. You would think that someone working as a talking head would become better at talking over time but nope.

[@moreamoxl3763]

@@duhotatoday3277 talk fast gibberish doesn't matter to idiots

[@daisyportillo2952]

Bruh 💀💀💀💀

[@user-hn3uu3gj2g]

When I was in college my friends got into gambling and I lost a few hundred dollars… I never won and I’m thankful for that, I realized how dumb it was, how I didn’t need the rush of betting my hard earned money. A vice that addicting should scare you

[@HydrogenicHydroxy]

Gambling in so normalized because of video games! xQc didnt get addicted to gambling from the first time he spun a slot. Its from a decade+ of loot boxes, csgo crates, fifa card packs, etc etc. The video game industry is pushing people into gambling

[@God-ec8ni]

asmongold confuses bad content to popular content

[@vindikaktus]

Guess Asmongold would say Roblox is "objectively" one of the best games ever made lol

[@gorefragerance8311]

bad take by asmon... good content doesnt really equal content that attracts viewers most

[@ThatCheekyWalrus]

Isn't playing the lottery considered gambling? Like gambling has always been popular in hundreds of not thousands of different ways in every country and culture. I enjoy watching poker streams but personally refuse to ever gamble because of my mental health, bad paranoia that "luck" is out to get me so I avoid putting myself in RNG scenarios.

[@theshadowcult]

I know asmond doesnt bother checking these posts, but he's actually wrong about people and morals. The reason you dont see people sticking to their morals is because thats entirely the point. The person who is not going to take those sponsor ships from gambling because of morals is the same person who is not going to brag about it either. You see people be hypocrites, you see people give up on their morals because those people are in the light doing so.

[@autoscrollclips]

if ppl can go on twitch and watch ppl do softcore porn, then gambling should be allowed

[@bonafidemonafide7810]

"if x drug is legal then all drugs should be legal" I have a better idea. Curb this infestation of content and fight back against it. Get rid of the softcore and the gambling

[@autoscrollclips]

@@bonafidemonafide7810 no i don't have a problem with either

[@duhotatoday3277]

How tf does your puritan brain put a slightly spicy Twitch thots on the same level as a literal gambling?

[@bonafidemonafide7810]

@@autoscrollclips "No I dont have a problem with either" Audience polls show that youre in the minority my friend. I can see why youre defending them. I assume youre the one rubbing it out to amouranths 34th hot tub stream this month?

[@MesaGaming]

Asmongold is a reactor ( now ) , he’s a great entertainer but we shouldn’t view things with his standards, he’s not the type of person you want to be friends with nor expect him to be there for you if it doesn’t benefit him Like he said all the time, what he does is for his own benefit and it makes him money - if his brand of home living low moral but chill character benefits him, he will keep it , he’s a smart man and what he’s saying is what will help him keep the audience come here for good food for thought and content , I respect and enjoy his consistency and streams, keep it up!

[@stadiumarcadium2351]

noooooooo these are my internet friends i send them cash to say my twitch username and thank me.

[@truegame142]

when they said 60% of usa adult have gambled in last year it probably includes lottery tickets into that

[@FreakyD83]

I've spent far too much money on Love Live games in the past. I used to be hard against microtransactions. I saw it as a waste of money, but I gave into it one time, got some good stuff, and next thing I knew I found myself starting to justify the purchases. "oh, its just $5. No biggie". But $5 after $5 after $5, it adds up. Soon enough, $35 didnt sound too bad. After all, that special pack gives so much more than the basic packs that are always available! That pack guarantees a great item and its a good deal! But eventually, after enough purchases of $100 worth of in game currency and not getting anything I want, those "small purchases" turned into waste after waste of my hard earned money. Those things i got didnt have any real value.. i maxxed out some of the cards i did want, , and found I couldnt even use them because they didnt outclass the things I already had at max level.. i started realizing just how pointless and wasteful it was. The lack of guarantees on the banners (aside from spending upward to $600 in a week just to buy the cards outright with pity crystals earned from failed rolls, which I had never sunk low enough to do), really dug the ditch for me. I stopped spending on those games. I had enough of the BS tactics to suck the money from my bank account, feeding off of my fear of missing out. I DO still spend on Genshin, at least enough to get one copy of the new characters every few months or so, if the free currency doesnt snag them for me, and I've been reeling in my purchases on the Konosuba game by limiting myself. But it definitely is dangerous how easy it is to just throw hundreds of dollars away at virtually nothing.. stuff that will be gone if someday the developers decide to pull the plug on the games. Some of which can be influenced by seeing someone do well on their own pulls, and hoping you too can be that lucky.

[@xXHilliamXx]

I live near vegas, I have had friends lose their houses growing up because their parents would spend their paychecks all away in the casinos. I've watch someone jump from the 12th floor at the Riverside Casino in Laughlin NV because he spent his entire life savings and lost it all that weekend. The Riverside ALSO lets their employee's take out half of their paychecks each day. Gamble on their breaks and just completely throw all of their daily "Drawl".. Gambling is absolutely disgusting. I have worked in these places, seen lives destroyed and its so sad..

[@xXHilliamXx]

@@jamiem2494 They have to have incentive to keep people from leaving.

[@xXHilliamXx]

@Darth Vader Right, These places thrive off it. The Riverside just does it really well. You could die today and they will have your replacement tomorrow.

[@sind4953]

casino "games" just be a paid button that plays screen effects with a 10% chance of being free. (10% is X's winrate from last year's gamba) sunnyv2 coming for X's ass

[@rashauncassells7643]

Lucky for me, the way I was brought up, gamblers are worse than drug addicts. If you're brought in a poor & tough neighborhood, gamblers are the lowest of the low.

[@Jinxy-Jo]

I stopped gambling when I lost my bank on osrs at the sand casino. An mmo of all things, taught me a very important lesson. I’m still hurting over that day.

[@jeanm.9570]

Most if not all things in life will teach you some sort of lesson, its up to you to synthesize that lesson.

[@lukewarmape603]

I'll put on a coupon for Football every week (basically a list of bets that all need to come through to pay out at a massive bonus). I'll put £2 on it (usually with a £250+ return if it comes through), it makes watching all the games better as im more invested in it. Thats it. I put £15 into the account a year ago and ive not put in any more money, im still playing with that initial £15 and just gambling the winnings, when I take money out I always leave some to gamble more with. Gambling doesn't need to be destructive, Im aware I'm a minority of gamblers though. Gambling is really normal in my country (UK), especially football + horses.

[@bonafidemonafide7810]

Betting on matches is pretty different from gambling. With matches you actually have a fair legal match between both sides and youre paying for a betting ticket etc. With gambling its almost always rigged against you.

[@Laroac]

Heroind doesn't need to be destructive, crack doesn't need to be destructive... smh gtfo here

[@lukewarmape603]

@@Laroac I mean, it doesn't... Not everyone has addictive personalities. I had a year or two when I was in my early twenties where I was doing a lot of cocaine, it was fun. I stopped because my friends became addicted, I was completely fine. Heroin and Crack shouldn't be illegal either btw

[@lukewarmape603]

@@bonafidemonafide7810 Betting on matches is not pretty different from Gambling, its literally Gambling

[@Darteghoster]

My mom tried to kill herself on my eyes after she lost our home

[@spencerfoote6977]

From gambling? Holy crap I’m sorry dude.

[@spencerfoote6977]

If you need to talk just message me.

[@Darteghoster]

@@spencerfoote6977 i was 10 now im 32. Im okay now

[@spencerfoote6977]

@@Darteghoster Dang just don’t beat yourself about it. I’m genuinely sorry no kid should have to see that or hear that. Sometimes when we’re emotional by making mistakes we get even more emotional rather than seeing reality or calming down. She probably saw herself as a failure and felt horrible however she wasn’t seeing the bigger picture with you. It seemed like it happen a long time ago though so don’t stress people move on, and is the process of healing. I hope you feel emotionally better though generally. It’s hard to help through KZbin comments and saying “just feel better” doesn’t do anything in reality either. Hence why I said I was sorry because it helps people realize that people do care.

[@Darteghoster]

@@spencerfoote6977 thank for support. Yeah, time heals. I just wanted to tell about my expirience with gambling addict.

[@skittleslover651]

the point at 14:40 is pretty bad, yes they advertise lottery tickets everywhere but they cant buy them because they are underage, on twitch its right there in their face they can go to the gambling site. you cant stop them from doing it, if its blocked by country whats stopping them from using a vpn, if its age blocked they can just say they're 100 and the site could care less, they can also just use their parents credit/debit card they dont even need their own (but now a days everybody has one because their parents gave them that card). we've all done it as kids and probably still do (not the stealing our parents card but the lying and vpn part because fuck these companies selling our info or hackers trying to steal our info/ddos us)

[@LGixa]

You could argue that honing is the same as traditional gambling. You can never get win money back, but you can win the money you would otherwise spend in future attempts.

[@Psc0Waks]

gambling is so bad, i prefer doing nothing looking at a white wall for hours than wasting my money in gambles

[@3DProductions]

then dont gamble, SIMPLE

[@Xylotonic]

Yeah ok, so don't gamble and don't watch gambling streams. Let other people do as they please.

[@bonafidemonafide7810]

@@Xylotonic Thats the same logic that turned twitch into a hot tub stream-infested softcore cam girl website

[@lukewarmape603]

@@bonafidemonafide7810 Who cares. Literally just don't watch it. If you're triggered girls are making money by sitting around in bikinis, that's jealously. Plain and simple. I used to be like you till I realised that's just the way it is and I don't blame any woman for using their sexuality to make money, I wish I could do the same. You do too, that's why you're angry about it.

[@sirapple589]

@@lukewarmape603 Does Twitch market to or have a large child viewerbase? Should children be exposed to gambling and soft core pornography? I don’t care about women using their bodily appeal to make money, I care about what platform they use to do it.

[@JohnSmith-fg9pz]

Such a shame Asmon always finds excuses when it comes to his Streamer buddys. Educate yourself how harmfull gambling Addition is and how especially disgraceful it is to advertise this crap to a young audience instead of being a complete hipocryte.

[@danielangelc]

that xqc guy looks exactly like the guy from the old "leave britney alone" video

[@meltygear5955]

Off-topic but since Asmon mentioned religion I found a funny tidbit: "Santa Claus is what adults use to make kids behave, and God is what adults use to make other adults behave".

[@PolarBear_ed]

Oh wow rare to see Asmon's bad take. Well sometimes you gotta take an L.

[@spencerfoote6977]

I love watching my money burn digitally because I like to see patterns line up. I hecking love not having to lose money I was given to spend specifically on gambling while encouraging my audience to gamble but if they are under age then that’s a no. I’m not an addict though and not encouraging my audience to gamble. Pfffff

[@random-ch4bu]

BatChest

[@theguyonyoutube4826]

I'd argue things like lost ark, raid shadow legends are tapping into the very same gambling addictions without even having to output ANY returns

[@jordanvachon6924]

the pokemon game casino in pokemon red and blue on gameboy teached me that i should stay away from gambling if i dont want to loose all my money .

[@Desalitor2]

Everyone has his weaknesses , Zack's weakness is PAUSING EVERY 2 SECONDS WHILE WATCHING A VIDEO AND TALKING FOR 15 MINS EACH PAUSE.

[@sirapple589]

Bro, hearing the opinions the reactor has about the video they’re watching is the ENTIRE appeal of reaction videos. If you don’t want that, just watch the original video.

[@abovewater6918]

@@sirapple589 Exactly this. If you don't want a lot of commentary, just watch the original video instead.

[@javkhlantugstugsbayar]

Yeah, it really has become more unbearable lately

[@hlh1468]

"It's good to get kids gambling early because it's the same reason why people try to indoctrinate kids into a religion." Dude this is by far the worst take I've heard by a mile. It's like saying it's better for kids to start smoking at an early age because they're eventually gonna be smokers when they're older. Also, comparing gambling to being forced into a religion is not even remotely the same. You can change your opinions on religion when you're older, you can't get the money you lost gambling.

[@MotiPlays]

I gambled 10 years ago 5 bucks, won 20 bucks, felt the urge to keep going, i stopped, never came back gambling.

[@Xamontt]

Your logic just amazes me and by that I mean your lack of it in this topic, saying "Oh well, I don't get why people didn't leave the first time when it was worse" "You guys put a lot of pressure on streamers" well here is the thing, when someone does something they are addicted to that harms them and promotes it to others then apologizes and says they aren't going to do it again, turns around and does it again it is a worse the second time.

[@generalowen4344]

as a great man once said, "do whatever the fuck you want, just don't bring that shit near me." and by that logic i have no problem with Felix doing whatever he wants on his stream. if anyone's to blame, it's the kids' parents' fault for letting them do whatever the fuck they want in the internet. thank god they ended up in an xQc stream. and not some malicious site, scam, or a virus.

[@kylevernon]

What they really need to do is stop react streamers. Like Asmongold.

[@duhotatoday3277]

And why?

[@spencerfoote6977]

If it steals money away from the content creator then I agree somewhat

[@kylevernon]

@@duhotatoday3277 Look at DarkViperAu channel on KZbin. He made a vid specifically on Asmongold.

[@duhotatoday3277]

@@kylevernon let me guess "Content thieves, steal views, don't produce content" and other overdone brаindеаd takes

[@spacejunk2186]

​@@duhotatoday3277 Could call them leeches too. Would fit 80% of react streamers. Like Hassan for example. If someone says "content thief, steal views" and "don't produce content", that's Hassan.

[@andrewbyrnes6389]

One thing I want to say: I really respect and agree with the idea of Asmon that he wants to do streaming and his brand for the rest of his life, so selling out for a quick cash out that is going to send your name and brand into the dirt in a matter of a few years isn’t the play. I see this happen where I work. Sometimes people want to use and abuse the customers but over the long term it’s not sustainable. Better to work hard and honest and ride the wave all the way into the future.

[@Daicarrus]

Idk, I still see EA around.

[@randm4246]

TroyDan used to do sponsored streams on Roobet and he definitely was using site credits to gamble. He admitted it many times.