Two Mid-Range German Watches: NOMOS Glashütte & Glashütte Original

[@thomasa.243]

Glashütte Original is on a different level compared to Nomos. Glashütte Original is on a level of Blancpain, JLC and the likes, I would say, while Nomos is more in the range of Longines/Entry-Level Omega. Still, considering the price, great package and I don't know any other European brand offering this value for money. P.S. The normal Nomos Alpha movement uss an escapement produced by the Swatch Group. The Swing System is the escapement developed and produced by Nomos. They have even blued the balance spring on their Swing System 😅. P.P.S. The Glashütte Original movement is based on the old GUB Spezimatic movement.

[@paulyiasemides]

Was interested to see Philippe Dufour being interviewed at W&W, and recommending Nomos as a a great entry brand, and one that he has much respect for. Can't get much more of a recommendation than that for a newbie looking to enter the watch game for a reasonable price.

[@nizarmurar]

Dear Bill Great review as always. I will go for Nomos . No way I disappoint two figures like yourself and Philippe dufour. I will go for the Nomos Tangomat GMT . With love and great appreciation Nizar

[@watchartsci]

Yes, Paul, Dufour has always been a fan of Nomos watches-good solid mechanical horology at a price far more can afford. Take care, Bill

[@rikgomes]

Respect for Nomos, model Club Sport Neomatik on house movement

[@gjarnling]

Glashütte Original uses Nivarox (steel alloy) hairsprings. That includes the Pano-collection. So the double swanneck still have its full function.

[@watchartsci]

Gustaf-(Nivarox is a Swatch spring...) The Pano collection is slowly being taken over by silicon: --From Hodinkee review of the new PanoMaticCalendar ... "the hairspring inside is crafted from high-tech silicon, " GO's description of the movement in the new SeaQ: -Glashütte three-quarter plate with stripe finish -Regulator-free fine adjustment (dog whistle for 'silicon') -Skeletonized rotor with double-G symbol and 21-carat gold oscillation weight -Polished steel parts -Bevelled/polished edges -Screws polished/blued -Silicon balance spring (and there it is...) --Not that I'm crazy about Nivarox, but at least it's using a transitional metal. Take care, Bill

[@andresfg6788]

"The sharp eyed amongst you, dear readers, will be wondering what the swan neck regulator is for. Being free-sprung, a regulator index is unnecessary, so it’s used for isochronism adjustment - shifting the position of the hairspring so it breathes concentrically even as the watch winds down. Even then the swan neck is not crucial, but it is a traditional feature of GO movements, and one that is attractively finished with flat polishing. The movement could do without it, but then it would look slightly bare given the recognisable style of GO calibres."

[@ollik8192]

I asked about the double swan-neck regulator in the PanoMaticCalendar. The answer was cryptic. The other bit may be a bit of a doodad. "The regulator free fine adjustment includes two swan-nec springs: the one oh the left features an adjustment screw providing the watchmaker with the means to adjust the anchor symmetry. The right swan neck serves as a form of indicator." In the single swan-neck regulator systems that have silicon hairsprings, the swan-neck regulates beat error and the rate is free-sprung meaning that it can be adjusted by the screws.

[@Nomosglashuette_official]

Thanks for the feature-great video!

[@watchartsci]

My pleasure Nomos. Always interested in any new projects you're doing with design and movement. Take care, Bill

[@ultraman1red]

I really like Nomos. I own one of their upper tier watches. Super accurate for a mechanical watch. G.O. are also beautiful watches as well.

[@andresfg6788]

Not sure they are comparable. I like both but holding them side by side GO is in another league, not only because of the movement finishing but case and dial are also wayy beyond Nomos.

[@jeromedemarseille8336]

Clearly true GO is upper Mid Tier whereas Nomos is entry level Mid Tier . I own a Nomos Tangente but GO Panomaticlunar is really awesome !Way more in Lange&Sohne spirit.🎉

[@quarters-eye8922]

@@jeromedemarseille8336 Glashutte Original is considered high horology. There’s nothing mid tier about them.

[@quarters-eye8922]

@@jeromedemarseille8336 Glashutte Original is considered high horology, not mid tier.

[@kojiattwood]

The 35 mm Nomos Orion was what fully led me down the precipitous fall into horology--they have very long lugs, which immediately increases their overall diameter, so I always warn those who complain that they're "too small" about that feature.

[@AbdulRWatches]

I am definitely a big fan of German watches, and I love my Nomos Club Campus, I will hopefully add on of those cool GO Sixities or the Panomatic in the near future. Thanks Bill for the video, have a great weekend!

[@chrishoyt7548]

Great vid Bill. I like Nomos, period. I do like the panomatic as well. I have been following Nomos since their beginning. Regards, Chris

[@medgasguy]

Thanks so much Bill for another informative video. I love both brands myself and i'm also always looking for a unique original movement in timepieces but they do seem to be pricy. Anyway the one I have in mind and for a very good entry level price point into the whole Glashutte thing is the Nomos Tetra, gosh I love that watch.

[@watchartsci]

Hey Medgasguy, thanks man! Happy New Year, Bill🥳

[@kendalltull9854]

Nomos makes some great watches, and I love my Tangente. I do think that GO as a brand is above Nomos in terms of finishing and range of complications. I'm seriously considering their perpetual calendar which offers outstanding value. The movement beats at 4Hz and has 100 hours of power reserve too.

[@cedarcanoe]

Glashütte Original has a number of highly finished movements and watches, but I don’t feel comfortable with the larger case sizes. Except for the SeaQ 40mm, I ‘d love to own that watch. Great video!

[@michaelkalb2896]

Nomos is one of my favorite brands regardless of where they sit on the Horology spectrum (recognizing they seem to be moving away from their small model lines of high Horology watches as a White Gold Lux has remained elusive). I have a collection of Nomos and expect to continue to collect them in the future. They are a great value and bang for the buck and I love their clean Bauhaus design ethos. Whether it is a Club Sport 42, Tangente Neomatik 39, Tetra 39 (square), Zürich World Time, Tangomat GMT, or even an Autobahn 41, these watches punch well above there weight as Nomos has invested heavily in their own movements and even their own Swing System escapements. GO, just never grabbed my attention however. Maybe I view them as an entry level ALS which is a void I do not feel I need to fill.

[@calvinchann1996]

Huge fan of Nomos. Own a Tangente in the original size and it’s likely my most worn watch.

[@watchartsci]

Nomos is a good solid watch, Cal.Take care, Bill

[@awatchinside]

Love Original SeaQ Chrono, what a beauty piece!

[@kesfitzgerald1084]

Nice session, Bill. Both companies are pitching for different parts of the market, so it is nice to see them compared in this way. I enjoy discrete watches (that hide under the cuff) and Nomos, with its simple aesthetics and smaller sizes does this well. Silly as it may seem, my Tetra Matcha still makes me smile everytime I see it's wee face.

[@antonbayda2571]

Thanks, liked Lambda and PanoMaticCalendar a lot. Dream watches!

[@Snorkelsnot]

I absolutely love my Nomos Tetra Duo (gold hands, no seconds). It’s the most accurate manual Watch I own, just right size and easy to read.

[@Javi_C]

Very good value for Nomos, but I just prefer the Glashütte Original Panomatic. Really like the design and reminds me of A. Lange & Söhne.

[@MaxiGenferei]

Big category difference imo... one is like the German Omega, zenith or JLC, the other one being more kind of TagH. Or even a Mido category, no ?

[@daintiestquarters3411]

I was just wodering how is Glashutte Original mid-range when they start at almost 10K. Actually, the 70s model starts at 14K, three times more expensive than a high end nomos.

[@watchartsci]

Indeed, Swatch wants their profit ... Nomos is owned ... by Nomos. Take care, Bill

[@quarters-eye8922]

Glashutte Original is a high Horology brand. They are not mid tier.

[@obud3777]

The Nomos Club is small, but wears big! Nomos have very long lugs, so a 36mm wears more like a 39mm.

[@jeromedemarseille8336]

I own a Nomos Tangente and dial without any bezel make your watch wearing 3mm bigger than it is like a Full Moon at the horizon ! Open caseback is cool. You always look at Glasshütte stripes !

[@watchartsci]

Thanks O'Bud that's good to know. Takes care, Bill

[@watchartsci]

Smaller Nomos wearing large... okay, important to know, Jérôme. Take care, Bill

[@velviaman3206]

My old Tangente has always run at +5s/d but the newer Orion datum is closer to +10s/d and the date changes at 12.25. It did occur to me that since they are reported to be working at full capacity quality control is not as tight as it once was. Great content as usual Bill.

[@watchartsci]

@@velviaman3206 Downgraded by success?🤔

[@dgb6355]

Hi Bill, I suppose it’s all about budget in the end. I think Nomos is very decent for its price range.

[@washingtonfootballfanwgil8392]

Bill, I was hoping you would have mentioned the Zurich world timer by Nomos. I think it's a good value.

[@watchartsci]

I agree Fan, but I just wanted a single example from the low-medium-high models, and I wanted to focus on the newest models from both. Maybe they'd fit in a review of World Timers? Whatdoyathink,? Take care, Bill

[@michaelkalb2896]

I also should add, while there is not a lot of info on the what the Nomos “Swing System” is comprised of, there is information reflecting the partnership with Technical University of Dresden to design their in house movements at a significant cost. I also have been advised that due to capacity constraints, their High Horology pieces are not in production.

[@obesetuna3164]

No doubt about it Bill. Those dreaded Hun are full of pleasant surprises. I admire the Club and Sixties models for their pure simplicity., and 36mm is just fine. On the other hand, the Pano Matic Calendar looks to be a beautiful piece.

[@xpdchief7698]

Good video Bill. Nice comparison, I learned a lot. I’m all for a dial that’s not too clutter, but I can’t get use to Nomos’ Bauhaus design, it’s almost like a religion. I like the GO Pano Reserve, but the lack of information about the hairspring has always kept me away. Best regards, Brian

[@mikefleissner4415]

Beautiful

[@watchartsci]

Glad you liked them Mike. Take care, Bill

[@framptonhendrix530]

I want a Nomos Tangente 😊😊😊

[@brendankeilthy8149]

I'm a big fan of both brands. Nomos Tangente Neomatic 41❤ Glashutte Original PanomaticInverse.❤❤

[@james060881]

Love the Panomatic, very close to buying one, I’m just a little put off by the case size, a 41 or 42 suits my wrist best

[@webbezzy]

You can’t judge how small/large it would sit on your hand by just knowing the width of the watch. Lug to lug is what matters most of the time. Example of which is AP Royal Oak.

[@gilbertombp]

Somehow Nomos dials felt like an acquired taste to me - no doubt that what they’ve done with their movements is amazing! I would pick the Orion, Tangente Update or the Club Sport. GO’s Senator line drew me in from the very start - classical dials, timeless designs but some serious movements in there. 😀

[@karimdelakarim]

Their lovely all of them. I want every single one. In every colour way. G.O make a Square Chrono that is also devine

[@jazdecbezhlavy]

Nomos Club/Tangente is missing a beveled VI (6) under the small second. Nomos Lambda: The lettering "Gangreserve 84 Stunden" is redundant.

[@watchartsci]

Ok Jaz...anything else? Take care, Bill

[@quarters-eye8922]

Glashutte Original is a High Horology Brand. They are not mid tier.

[@cedshred1676]

I like both brands a lot, but it seems quite ridiculous for GO to have beautiful swan neck regulators that don’t actually regulate.

[@waterfordrs22]

I thought all SWATCH group watches with silicone hairsprings ran at 3.5hz, never 4.

[@ivansmith4242]

I know you hate talking about money when it comes to watches but NOMOS is a brand that makes products that you expect the msrp to be at 5000$ and GO makes watches with msrps well over 10000$ that end up selling for 5000$. You hate chronographs!

[@watchartsci]

Ivan, I don't hate chronographs or calendar watches. I just don't want any. Take care, Bill

[@andresfg6788]

I feel like this is the german version of mixing JLC with Oris 😂

[@lucas_non_evangelista]

Indeed, Bill seems to lump together strong horology and entry-level high-horology (at least).