Two TV settings you should change right now

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@Caleb_Denison
@Caleb_Denison 3 жыл бұрын
Wow! I had no idea so many people preferred motion smoothing! Keep the comments coming! Also: do you prefer the way a movie looks at the theater, or on your TV at home? Let us know!
@JoelsterG4k
@JoelsterG4k 3 жыл бұрын
I know right.? Lol, I saw that back when I reviewed the Samsung KS8000, I love going to the movies for the big experience, especially the Dolby theater, the sound and picture is amazing but I also do enjoy the comfort and the projector I have at home.
@zima0704
@zima0704 3 жыл бұрын
I get it’s know as the soap opera effect... but I see it as if you are watching a movie through a window more realistic and immersive I feel like I’m there... but to each their own. Lol
@mohammedibrahim42
@mohammedibrahim42 3 жыл бұрын
Well done dude you are amazing 😁
@braulioribeiro5798
@braulioribeiro5798 3 жыл бұрын
Motion smoothing looks more life like. But I understand the appeal for the cinematic motion
@anonymous007advice
@anonymous007advice 3 жыл бұрын
Proper motion smoothing makes a movie pop, thats why even LG started including it in their Movie Picture Settings. I hate the Judder & Choppiness you get especially with an OLED that needs the help. For me a Calibration is just the start...then you start learning what the featured do on your expensive tv. I stopped listening to all the purists when I played around and saw the improvement with my own eyes. Calibrators will tell you that isn't the directors intent. Some died before my tv was even made... But regardless, if they wanted it to look bad in motion....i do not!
@johnk3852
@johnk3852 2 жыл бұрын
I really like your content, find it extremely helpful. One recommendation - recap your points at the end with specific settings. Like some of your other content, I had to watch this 5 times to understand what exact settings you were talking about and then find them on my TV. I'm likely not the only one, but I tend to flip through videos pretty quick, trying to get to the main points. Not trying to be an annoying critic - I really like your stuff - just think this would be extremely helpful for many of us.
@hkk584
@hkk584 2 жыл бұрын
Agree with John.
@iusoloman1527
@iusoloman1527 2 жыл бұрын
Also agree with John
@Alacritous
@Alacritous 2 жыл бұрын
It can be different for every TV model and brand. You just have to look through the settings on your TV to see where they put it.
@lalingvalladolid
@lalingvalladolid Жыл бұрын
Agree
@martialmartinoni7371
@martialmartinoni7371 4 ай бұрын
Agreed, give us the best setting in a simple way. So we can understand and follow on our TV setting. TKS
@owenoatley1331
@owenoatley1331 3 жыл бұрын
Been watching a lot of your videos, and several other youtubers in my quest for a new TV. I just got my A80J Wednesday and the first thing I noticed was how many things I watched looked choppy. After messing with motion settings and turning this setting up my eyes were suddenly pleased by the smoothness of the picture, which finally proved what all the reviewers said about how good Sony is at motion.. Today the youtube algorithm presented me with this video and I am pleased to see I am not alone in the comments that many people also feel the keeping motion settings on or cranked up takes away the distraction of choppiness. I get why you would turn this off for performance testing, but when it comes down to relaxing and watching TV. I want to be immersed and not distracted by these types of issues. I want my TV to look good to my eyes and not a single one of my friends or family will ever notice how much of a purest I am when it comes to TV settings. I use these videos to help me understand the upsides and downsides of these settings and what they do, then try them for myself to decide what stays or goes.
@Nyle95
@Nyle95 3 жыл бұрын
Which setting do you have motion smoothing on? And do you have any other options turned on?
@GanymedeXD
@GanymedeXD 2 жыл бұрын
They are a really good inspiration … but what they miss is a key factor … personal preference and individual perception … most ‚perfect‘ settings I changed straight away … and my TV Service Team stopped offering high end calibration services as the response from many customers came … brilliant perfect settings, but I do not like it … I prefer smoothness on and some reality creation on as well on my 83“ A90J … looks so much better and soap opera effect it does hardly produce … to get this you need to mess around hard with the settings. In the end perfect is the way we like it … and this only we can calibrate … inspired by such clips here …
@Evil_Genius_888
@Evil_Genius_888 3 жыл бұрын
Yes. I would like more behind the scenes stuff. The more I understand the why and how the more informed I feel.
@DireNeeds
@DireNeeds 3 жыл бұрын
I have an LG 42" that we bought many years ago. I wasn't happy with it but I was the only one in my family that was having issues with the TV until after a few years of dealing with it I learned about True Motion. I turned it off and it was like watching a totally different TV and a more enjoyable experience.
@coffeelady4967
@coffeelady4967 3 жыл бұрын
I didn't understand most of what you said, but, you must be a good teacher because I'm going to ask my son to change my picture settings just like you said. Thanks,
@RaspoutinesGhost
@RaspoutinesGhost 3 жыл бұрын
Behind the scenes sounds like something I would enjoy.
@cliffbooth7075
@cliffbooth7075 3 жыл бұрын
Cardinal Pell calls it behind the cloak.
@crimesforkibble6912
@crimesforkibble6912 3 жыл бұрын
I need this guy to come over and balance the settings on my TV because I obviously have no idea what the hell I'm doing
@scotts1356
@scotts1356 3 жыл бұрын
I'm RIGHT there with you...my friend!
@neilgibbs3880
@neilgibbs3880 3 жыл бұрын
I’m with you guys. I’ve absolutely no idea what this stuff is. I turn on the TV, watch stuff then turn it off. Until I watched this I had no idea I was doing it all wrong. 🤣🤣🤣
@tankbulldogge8639
@tankbulldogge8639 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I like to think I know what what I am doing & understanding so I start digging in. Then all of a sudden my wife is like ( What are you doing ? ) by then I am like, trying to make the TV look better. then she is like ( ok sure ) now my shit is all messed up I have all the settings all over the place. arrhhhgggg!!!!!
@draintheswamp1588
@draintheswamp1588 3 жыл бұрын
@@tankbulldogge8639, that's a good & funny story. In settings, you can just reset it to default and that will remove all evidence that you messed it up, -:)
@mimi1568
@mimi1568 3 жыл бұрын
Until I watched this video, everyone on my TV looked like a corpse! Still looks pretty bad but at least nobody looks like they came from the morgue.
@throughsoul
@throughsoul 3 жыл бұрын
Great. You just broke my record of 866 days without Tom Cruise. Thanks a lot.
@terminatorfan1898
@terminatorfan1898 3 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣
@williansinacio8977
@williansinacio8977 3 жыл бұрын
Weeeeee
@F_T2D_Drew
@F_T2D_Drew 3 жыл бұрын
🤣
@DsLmaNiaC
@DsLmaNiaC 3 жыл бұрын
Rofl.
@brittanygarrison8030
@brittanygarrison8030 3 жыл бұрын
Now that was funny
@BansheeFifteen
@BansheeFifteen 7 күн бұрын
Great info as always. One suggestion I might add is that we need to become familiar with the adjustments on our TV's and how to get a better picture. I let my tech knowledgeable significant other do the setup on our 85" Sony Bravia and with just a little tweeking I now have a much better picture. So my suggestion to my fellow viewers, don't be afraid to learn and make adjustments and get that picture to the way you like. Happy viewing to all.
@gulshanbatra7611
@gulshanbatra7611 3 жыл бұрын
impressive... the clarity, the citations added to the narrative, and the examples included - all were very helpful. Thanks!
@chance3771
@chance3771 3 жыл бұрын
I would like to see you calibrate budget TVs. I agree with you when you said in previous videos that people who buy budget TVs are unlikely to pay for calibration, but I think it would be useful for people to know things such as the differences in SDR and HDR peak brightness between budget, mid-range and high-end TVs.
@JayBirdNJ.
@JayBirdNJ. 3 жыл бұрын
I agree. I have a $350 Hisense and it doesn't have some of the features this guy is talking about. I don't even have the "smoothing effect" or " soap opera effect"... I just want a true HD look on all my channels.
@George196207
@George196207 3 жыл бұрын
Sadly not much on TV that is worth a high end TV !
@vinniethefinger7781
@vinniethefinger7781 2 жыл бұрын
@@George196207 Isn't that the truth. On another note, two movies were made using Vista Vision. One being The Searchers with John Wayne. I have an old, failed Samsung design and no real HD or UHD cables but yet, you can almost count the grains of sand on the ground. So why do I need a $3000+ TV? That's the question that I've been battling myself over.
@Totalplonker
@Totalplonker Жыл бұрын
Whether if I'm watching on my inexpensive bedroom TV or on my living room OLED TV, watching movie nowadays... especially original content movies on the streaming platforms with it's out of focus backgrounds and blurry edges. As soon as I identify it I'm immediately aware the actors are standing in front of a green screen which immediately distances me from the movie. Thank god I've got music to fall back on 😊
@mv4919
@mv4919 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely. A full hr of setup, including 7.1 surround, would be amazing. Covering everything: placement, color calibration, killing pre-sets, trade-offs (e.g. motion blur vs. sharpness), setting up sound NOT With my receiver instructions, maybe even saving 2 settings -- one for sports, one for movies; one for day, one for night, one for yourself, and a super-bright one for morons, etc. Finally, motion smoothing is death. But so is jitter and judder. I always turn motion control off, but too many tvs still struggle with interpolation and motion. I find myself battling the deep recesses color and white color in order to make up for the necessary oversaturation and contrast. I will say,, it's fun to stay up late when visiting my parents, adjusting all the settings,, and seeing how long it takes one of them to say 'they must have updated our software again, because this looks great.' As in, blacks and whites suddenly have wrinkles. Definitely the Bold and the Beautiful, for me.
@GanymedeXD
@GanymedeXD 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder what this is useful for … its also about personal preference and subjective perception … a lot of ‚best settings‘ recommendations look awful … I had TV s professionally calibrated … it just did not fit with the way I and many people subjectively like it … my TV Team stopped offering a high end calibration service as subjectively too many people feel differently … so working this out yourself with some inspiration is the best way forward. I tried it with family and friends and the ‚best settings‘ for the individual TV often led to the result ‚who messed up the TV settings‘. Especially switching smoothing and reality creation off led to protests. Has nothing to do with morons but that everybody perceives it differently based on personal liking and a different perception.
@fletchy88
@fletchy88 Жыл бұрын
@@GanymedeXD nah. Just nah. Morons 100% If they had a single clue about the technical aspects.. they would change.... Like we all do .. when we learn something deeper about a subject.
@MichaelAlderete
@MichaelAlderete 3 жыл бұрын
This is a great introduction to a series. One thing I might suggest, and maybe something to go along with your behind the scenes, is to be more specific about _exactly_ what settings you're recommending changing. I'm sure it's second nature to you at this point, you've been deep in the settings trees of a hundred TVs, maybe a thousand times. Most folks (or at least I) don't have nearly that familiarity, even with our own TV sets. Whizzing through the settings in this video, I can't even tell which settings examples are from an LG TV (my own TV brand) vs. the others. I can never remember what LG's proprietary motion smoothing setting is called, or what all of the different levels mean or do. You've _forgotten_ more about TV settings than most of us will ever know. So, when making recommendations, it's worth being _very_ clear, at least for the top TV brands. Or at least slowing down the action and cuts in your video, so we can see what you're doing. You obviously can't do it for every single TV brand and model, but when there's commonalities across models within a brand, or maybe for the top rated or top selling models, it would be really valuable. Thanks!
@doogie812
@doogie812 3 жыл бұрын
I was a TV man back in the late 70's early 80's. The soaps were great for TV setup. Once leaving TV service for computer service I was addicted to the ABC daytime line up. I had two Sony AV-3600 VTRs cascaded to to record Ryan's Hope, Once Life to Live & half of General Hospital. It quickly became apparent that this was to much TV to catch up on over the weekend.
@n.u.k.2188
@n.u.k.2188 5 ай бұрын
Funnily enough, when I follow guides like this, tailored to my specific tv, to make the colours pop or get the best image, I go back to fabric settings immediatly, because that looks WAY better. WAY BETTER.
@weekendwarrior8334
@weekendwarrior8334 3 жыл бұрын
I would really like to see the review process. It would also be helpful if you could list the settings in the comments section that you select for the reviewed TVs.
@ForceFreeTrainergirl06
@ForceFreeTrainergirl06 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly. I've just commented thaet if he could summarize at the end of the video it would make it much easier to understand
@darlingtoncd
@darlingtoncd 2 жыл бұрын
I agree👍 It's very much a personal choice but personally I don't like 24fps, it's blurry choppy and in some scenes - down right ruins the viewing experience. It feels that we're being *told* that 24fps is best for cinema...unfortunately not for me.
@emmanuell9753
@emmanuell9753 3 жыл бұрын
This was probably the most interesting video I’ve ever seen out of a TV reviewer. Yes keep them coming
@erod6468
@erod6468 3 жыл бұрын
I love motion smoothing. Looks even more true to life. I don't know about y'all, but I don't see my life in frames. Looks so much better, almost like looking through an open window.
@keyser456
@keyser456 2 жыл бұрын
We hosted a party for New Years and dug out Rock Band 2 for PS3 and all the instruments. We had a blast but the screen kept stuttering which was throwing everybody off (that and the copious amounts of alcohol, but I digress...). I looked it up later. It was the stupid judder reduction / auto motion plus stuff on the TV. Once I turned that off, now it's completely smooth. Great video! Thanks for the info!
@jGRite
@jGRite 3 жыл бұрын
All this video did is made me miss my grandma. She watched a lot of soaps, but Bold and the Beautiful was her favorite.
@eyeshezzy
@eyeshezzy 3 жыл бұрын
Yes we do want more behind the scenes and why did you stop reviewing speakers and home theater systems?
@rjw705
@rjw705 3 жыл бұрын
I also wonder why soundbars are always mentioned when there are nice KEF speakers in the room!
@mikecoshan3752
@mikecoshan3752 3 жыл бұрын
When I first got my Panasonic Tv I googled the model and found the custom calibration settings for it which improved the picture quality immeasurably. It was a bit of a pain to go through it all but totally worth it in the end. Great video by the way 👍
@Tropicalexc
@Tropicalexc Жыл бұрын
Caleb, Planning on getting the S90c, and connecting a new firestick. Is this counterproductive???Wish you’d do a video on the topic using these type of devices with top line OLED TVs” Which are the best as far as are they getting the most out of sound/pic quality or hindering the experience?
@secretagentjesus4406
@secretagentjesus4406 3 жыл бұрын
Recently got a new TV and I hated the soap opera effect so much I almost returned it. Couldn't figure out how a new TV could be better and worse. Saw another video, filmmaker mode fixed it, thanks for the additional info, knowledge is good.
@michaeldawson6565
@michaeldawson6565 2 жыл бұрын
I've always liked the cool color over the warm
@Lilrockerdude13
@Lilrockerdude13 3 жыл бұрын
When the 4:33 mark hit, you know everyone that used to get down on some Young and Restless when they go visit grandma was like "DUDE Victor is still alive!!!"
@jasonkeenan4154
@jasonkeenan4154 3 жыл бұрын
Man, I really felt this comment. Grandma was always on some soaps.
@alfredtaylor1076
@alfredtaylor1076 3 жыл бұрын
OMG yes! That dude has been a staple in my life and I've never once sat and watched a single episode.
@jorgedominguez1957
@jorgedominguez1957 Жыл бұрын
Man man, you speak so fast! Good heavens
@jak7859
@jak7859 3 жыл бұрын
very rarely comment, like or even get to the end of these shows, but must admit that I found this particular one interesting and informative. I have liked it and subscribed
@mr.mephistopheles2497
@mr.mephistopheles2497 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you man. I am a man far removed from the industry that I used to dance in. Make more of these. Cheers
@tofuprius3384
@tofuprius3384 3 жыл бұрын
Before I got a new TV I was 110% sure motion smoothing was evil and deplorable (exaggerating of course). But after using it for just a day, I’m finding I have a hard time enjoying 24fps content without at least some smoothing. The choppiness is just an eye-sore a lot of the time.
@darlingtoncd
@darlingtoncd 2 жыл бұрын
I agree👍 It's very much a personal choice but personally I don't like 24fps, it's blurry choppy and in some scenes - down right ruins the viewing experience. It feels that we're being *told* that 24fps is best for cinema...unfortunately not for me.
@briank10101
@briank10101 2 жыл бұрын
24fps was a compromise in the infancy of the movie industry for the equipment of the time. Liking it nowadays is like lighting your home with candles - it brings a feeling of nostalgia. Black and white movies were also an early limitation so should we turn off color?
@RH-nk7eo
@RH-nk7eo Жыл бұрын
24fps is for old folks. Everyone has 60hz screens as a minimum now. Welcome to the future.
@kennypowers1945
@kennypowers1945 Жыл бұрын
@ML_Patarnot with motion smoothing. It’ll make you movies 60fps
@Criticalhitkoala
@Criticalhitkoala 3 жыл бұрын
0:29 - It's a Brett Favre type situation. Name is spelled one way but said another. Great points in this video, thank you for posting it.
@MrDinodane
@MrDinodane 3 жыл бұрын
Also I love the soap opera effect lol. It's always on for me. I also prefer 60 to 120fps over 30fps which is probably why I hate the way movies look without smoothing. Iam glad all these tvs have options for everyone. I LOVE THE TECH in these new tvs.
@kipsmithers8816
@kipsmithers8816 2 жыл бұрын
Just wanted my tv to work like normal & ended up listening to explanations for things I couldn’t dream up to ask. You took so many liberties in this video. My tv still looks a mess & you’re next level knowledge on this subject makes me insecure:(
@TalesOfTheBarkside1
@TalesOfTheBarkside1 3 жыл бұрын
I just tested my new Samsung TV Q60A as I watched "Back To The Future". I turned off the motion smoothing, a few minutes later I turned it on. And, wow! I prefer the motion smoothing ten times more, you could see the finest of details, like when Lorraine stepped back from kissing Marty, you could see the subtle blush points on her collar bone. I haven't seen any other movies yet, I just bought the TV, but I prefer keeping it on for all programs as of now.
@bigpatt8372
@bigpatt8372 2 жыл бұрын
I'm more confused than befor I watched this.
@billyg8614
@billyg8614 3 жыл бұрын
Very informative Caleb; Thanks! Motion Smoothing (turned on by default) on my 2018 LG BX 65” Oled caused a halo effect around people/objects with complex or dark backgrounds. Once turned off, this problem went away.
@rikshithshetty8136
@rikshithshetty8136 3 жыл бұрын
Behind the scenes is a great idea. I love the settings you mention in your reviews, as it has helped me steer my wife and in-laws away from the soap-opera effect (absolutely despise it).
@christiandehlinger3731
@christiandehlinger3731 2 жыл бұрын
I am a 42 year av guy and the first place I saw this was actually a Philips plasma. Setting up, it was some Bruce Willis movie and I said, "is this program the making of the movie?" I commented that everything looked like the local news, like a soap opera, the more we watched. I am sure I was one of many speaking the same sentiment.
@scottbeck7762
@scottbeck7762 3 ай бұрын
Exactly it looks like the Outtakes
@greenmachine949
@greenmachine949 3 жыл бұрын
Wow. I had no idea what that was. I just bought a new 65" TV a few months ago and couldn't figure out why everything looked like it was shot like a low budget student film. Soon as you said "soap opera effect" I knew exactly what you were talking about. Good to know. I need to get rid of that crap asap.
@DiegoLopez-sk2kp
@DiegoLopez-sk2kp 3 жыл бұрын
So a warm color temperature and no smoothing. I'll be sure to set this up later this afternoon to test it out. Thanks for these kinds of tips! Keep em coming.
@UltraCasualPenguin
@UltraCasualPenguin 2 жыл бұрын
Or precalibrated color temperature if there is like Expert 1 on Sony TVs.
@ProjectConstruction2024
@ProjectConstruction2024 7 ай бұрын
But its too yellowish...
@ivovachkov5992
@ivovachkov5992 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Caleb, thank you for everything you do! Yes, please, a behind-the-scenes video on how you test would be great!
@alexandrumihalisnicolau5231
@alexandrumihalisnicolau5231 3 жыл бұрын
Yes yes I want to see behind the scenes of how a TV is set up and how the picture settings are chosen
@mickj52
@mickj52 Ай бұрын
You have absolute terrific presentations, Caleb. I'm making my next television choice based on your informative knowledge.
@drifter_77
@drifter_77 2 жыл бұрын
Motion Smoothing is awesome, it just takes a bit to get used to at first, but once your eyes are used to it everything looks so much better.
@i4NiLeon11
@i4NiLeon11 Жыл бұрын
Soap opera effect is actually amazing for gaming. This is the only place that motion flow was explained properly. Thank you. You got a like. FYI, you should make a separate video for gaming explaining why its good for gaming.
@Daniel_WR_Hart
@Daniel_WR_Hart Жыл бұрын
One issue with motion interpolation is that it increases the pixel response time, but BFI is not as bad, and not all games require quick reactions anyway
@LuisTheImpalerGaming
@LuisTheImpalerGaming 3 жыл бұрын
Well, I love the "soap opera effect" but in some movies. Mostly movies from the 30's through the 70's. Including TV shows. It's like giving them a form of art life, when I showed my wife her favorite movie Back to the Future in full 60fps. She was so happy cause she kept saying during the movie is like I'm there with them filming the movie. Is a new experience, and watching cartoons like Tom & Jerry of the 70's is so beautiful how that animation still looks so well done.
@Wes10design
@Wes10design 3 жыл бұрын
Oh man, a behind the scenes would be awesome and if there's any more detail you can give about at-home calibration with limited tools that would be excellent! Another thing that could be nice is your preferred settings for flagship TVs.
@charlesfarris7566
@charlesfarris7566 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for giving folks permission to not like the warm color scheme - not my cup of tea. In fact, from time to time, I find I flip over to the 'Cool' setting in my pre-set color options. My TV, I can do whatever the heck I want - lol. But yeah, motion handling is an abomination. Great explanation.
@joeynunez5614
@joeynunez5614 3 жыл бұрын
I have the TCL R635 and whenever action smoothing is off, it feels so juddery and I hate it. I always keep it on low so it adds some “soap opera effect” but not much and it seems to work great and I enjoy how smooth movies and shows are. Having it on with Dolby Vision really blows my mind.
@jesse-mg1hx
@jesse-mg1hx 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like a lot of people have written motion smoothing off because their experience is based off it's initial technology and they've been screaming from rooftops on how bad it is to this day, technology has improved so give it a chance cause I actually love it.
@phroskies
@phroskies 3 жыл бұрын
I dunno. I have a 2010 samsung led and because of it i love smooth motion
@jesse-mg1hx
@jesse-mg1hx 3 жыл бұрын
@@phroskies that's good to know someone enjoyed it around that time cuz I had a vizio at that time and the motion smoothing was terrible haha
@phroskies
@phroskies 3 жыл бұрын
@@jesse-mg1hx vizio has always had a problem with it i believe. Even now it is among the worst for all tvs, but dont quote me on that.
@godspeedmaximus
@godspeedmaximus 3 жыл бұрын
I hate it just as much as before
@DashVandle
@DashVandle 3 жыл бұрын
No it is garbage and it still looks terrible
@W2IRT
@W2IRT 3 жыл бұрын
22 years as a motion picture projectionist, running 35mm and 70mm prints at 24fps, and I can say without hesitation that I'll take high frame rates any day of the week. 24fps was the standard because the entire film industry was set up for it originally. We are now free of that limitation thanks to the industry going all digital, but for whatever reason, Hollywood insists on keeping the look of a technologically inferior process. Film was a magnificent medium, but the relatively low frame rate (actually 48 images per second, because shutters are double-bladed) was for backwards compatability. If the scene is lit properly, and the DoP understands what they're doing, it can be incredibly immersive (Douglas Trumbull's Showscan process was magnificent, for example). I have a 120 Hz OLED and I'll take as much smoothing as I can get.
@charlesbeeson4598
@charlesbeeson4598 3 жыл бұрын
I don't see the point in having these flash tvs then making it work like the old inferior ones.
@George196207
@George196207 3 жыл бұрын
Same way they now can't turn down the music sound track to be lower than the dialogue ! Incompetent sound tech or just trying hard as hell to sell the crap music they blast over the actors .
@Sordatos
@Sordatos 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly, is just that we culturally relate 24 fps as "movie feel"
@victorbitencourt9481
@victorbitencourt9481 2 жыл бұрын
24fps in movies is also because editing, not just tradition. it's easier to edit individual frames when there are less of them. so we stick with the least fps possible while it's high enough to maintain a convincing sense of motion
@vitorfernandes651
@vitorfernandes651 2 жыл бұрын
You are confusing this setting. If the movie is filmed in 60fps then it’s great to watch. But we are talking about smoothing of a picture that was originally 24fps and make it 30 or 60fps. It will look unnatural and wrong. If you have a 60fps movie on a 60fps tv then you don’t need any smoothing again. It’s always a useless setting that needs to be off
@ReggieThePercussionistNorwood
@ReggieThePercussionistNorwood Жыл бұрын
I ABSOLUTELY LOVE SOE!!! I am that guy...definitely not tech savvy at all, but I always felt like the SOE made my TV give the illusion as being as close to 3D without actually being 3D...
@petersonfamily6223
@petersonfamily6223 3 жыл бұрын
Yes behind the scenes, please. Because every brand labels its controls differently it is difficult to know what to do. Add in all the videos out there making various picture settings recommendations and it can become an endeavor, to say the least.
@ddot196
@ddot196 3 жыл бұрын
I recently got a new 75 inch tv and years ago when motion smoothing came out, I thought it looked absurd. But now I really enjoy it. It just makes the picture more, smooth lol. Everything looks more realistic and sports looks much better. Needless to say I am sold on it now.
@edwardwilliams2438
@edwardwilliams2438 2 жыл бұрын
Why can't I buy a thousand dollar TV and not have to be a Phd in color systems? In the old days we opened the box..unwrapped the cardbord and plugged it in and turned it ON. Complications are making ordinary life unbearable. I still use an old tube monitor set just to overcome the "hype" of HD,Organic, 4k,5k and on and on. Thanks God for MeTV in black and white. I know..I'm an old foggy! Like your channel,regadless of my venting...Kudos!
@nac5000
@nac5000 3 жыл бұрын
I love the motion improvements they are all activated on my LG OLED and Samsung. even for gaming! everything is so smooth without flickering
@colonelquickshifter6534
@colonelquickshifter6534 3 жыл бұрын
I brought x95j and arc sound bar during Black Friday - I am in love !!! True love 🥳
@TheBrad605
@TheBrad605 2 жыл бұрын
Born in the USA!! You just gained a ton more points with me. Springsteen is God!!
@enhncr
@enhncr 3 жыл бұрын
Motion smoothing is A MUST !!!!
@AllenJWard
@AllenJWard 3 жыл бұрын
Yes please. An in depth series on calibration would be appreciated.
@OldForrester
@OldForrester 3 жыл бұрын
Not a fan of frame interpolation, but love high frame rate. Hobbit in the theatre at 48fps was unreal!
@UxCANxDOxIT
@UxCANxDOxIT 3 жыл бұрын
By unreal, I hope you mean, made the movie look super unrealistic, suspension of disbelief goes out the window, you can literally see each special effect, because movies aren't meant to be played like soap operas or like your iPhone videos.
@SuperSy99
@SuperSy99 3 жыл бұрын
Its look like shot in iphone.cinema is dead for higher fps,its like watching behind the scene
@GenusSuperius
@GenusSuperius 3 жыл бұрын
@@SuperSy99 So we deteriorate the fps to a point where we can barely make out what is happening in fast-paced scenes? If we adjusted recording techniques and post-processing to suit higher frame rate capture then it wouldn't look like it was shot on a phone or behind the scenes. The fact that you associate higher frame rates with amateur recording is a symptom of your conditioning which is a result of, ironically, low industry standards, as well as tradition.
@pluto517
@pluto517 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely! An inside look at the review and testing process would be interesting.
@bluecaffeine
@bluecaffeine 2 жыл бұрын
I use movie mode with smooth motion off but when I watch a 3D movie I turn on the smooth motion because it makes the 3D look more realistic. Great vid and subbed.
@cryohellinc
@cryohellinc 3 жыл бұрын
My preference is literally opposite to what you just wrote: -love the soap opera effect -hate warm colours -hate BFI
@digitaltrends
@digitaltrends 3 жыл бұрын
We also are not fans of BFI, so we have that in common!
@doctordothraki4378
@doctordothraki4378 3 жыл бұрын
I would use BFI on a gaming monitor, but not sure about TVs
@martheunen
@martheunen 3 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately I sometimes have to use motion interpolation to combat 24p jerkiness. Trying to find middle ground between no/less 24p jerkiness and some artifacting and no/low soap opera effect is the only thing I'm slightly disappointed in since I got my Oled TV. Here's hoping TV tech fixes it in the coming years and that my wallet will allow the upgrade once it's available...
@XxAtomic646xX
@XxAtomic646xX 2 жыл бұрын
just need a tv that lets you fine tune motion smoothing, instead of just a low, medium, high, off toggles
@nathanwygal5526
@nathanwygal5526 3 жыл бұрын
I went to see the 48 fps version of the Hobbit as well. My mind, without prior knowledge of the concept, immediately noticed how the frame rate was similar to that of a soap opera. I got used to it as the film progressed; however, it was very jarring to see that fluid of motion compared to the traditional 24 fps at first, especially on a cinema screen. Before I saw the Hobbit, I remember there were six episodes of the Twilight Zone that were filmed on videotape (instead of 35mm film to cut budget costs), then transferred to 16mm film and aired on TV. They were soapy looking as well.
@vjenkinsdb
@vjenkinsdb 2 жыл бұрын
I went years without a TV just because I couldn't stand watching amazing movies on them but thanks to you and others doing the work finding and publishing the setting changes to make TV good again I finally got one this year :) Thanks!
@mrbunker9155
@mrbunker9155 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic information thank you. You mentioned doing a whole video on your calibration and setup of the LG OLED C1. That's a fantastic idea and you should go through with it.
@greattantrum523
@greattantrum523 3 жыл бұрын
Ever since I have seen motion smoothing I loved it. It made everything look more lifelike. How they are adding frames is not what is important but how it is displayed. If it looks smooth as butter then that is all I care about. I am coming from a generation were movies and TV viewing has always been 24fps or 30fps. Seen stuff at a faster smoother frame rate is a non brainer to me and a nice upgrade to the motion viewing. Why deny that? We might as well play videogames at 24-30fps and call it quits there but we don't, the same should be applied with movie watching. Give us the higher framerates. As for the color issue I see your point about getting that warm look but it gives it a more "Sepia" style of brightness, for me I tend to like the brighter bluer color spectrum. Whites look more, well white. Say no to yellow snow and falling pee.. I mean rain.
@zybch
@zybch 3 жыл бұрын
But what you're seeing isn't what was shot. Its a processor engineer's rough interpretation, a three-quarters fake image (assuming a 30 to 120 interpolation). Now actual HFR is fine, its what was shot, the detail and temporal quality are still intact, something that 'smooth'motion is incapable of preserving.
@greattantrum523
@greattantrum523 3 жыл бұрын
@@zybch Again, understanding the technical of how smooth motion works is interesting but not that important as long as it works and looks good. The end result or how it is displayed is what is important. It is good enough to were I don't mind the shortcoming artifacts, they are not bad enough to bother me. Like I said, smooth motion makes movies look more lifelike that's what is important and why I have it turned on.
@MixelsLab
@MixelsLab 2 жыл бұрын
@@greattantrum523 this is an odd take to me, because cinematic and life-like aren't the same thing at all.. Having smooth motion doesnt inherently improve a movie experience, and decreases the picture quality around edges particularly.. Games are a different thing entirely because often you are supposed to "be" there, and higher fps means better responsiveness.. But it's good there are options. :D
@dpendley515
@dpendley515 3 жыл бұрын
Is there a way to lower the back ground music/noise so I can hear dialog without turning the volume to 30? Thanks!
@orlock20
@orlock20 3 жыл бұрын
No, but I use closed caption, which also oddly adds in stuff at least on Netflix shows. For instance, on one show the closed captioning stated that a person was hearing whispers even though there was no audible whispering. However the technology does exist which is used in the music industry to isolate and sometimes remove "tracks." That's how KZbinrs can sing a song or play an instrument to a backing track that has that key detail missing from the original. As far as I know, that technology doesn't work in real time.
@Tribrachidiumheraldicum
@Tribrachidiumheraldicum 3 жыл бұрын
On some streaming services there are settings for that you should check out. HBO Max for example has a "night mode" that mixes the audio better for night time so you don't have to get your eardrums blasted by louder sound effects or music. Try also seeing if, on Netflix for example this is a big issue, you're streaming isn't defaulting to 5.1 surround sound audio when you maybe don't have that set up in your house. That can be a huge help for hearing dialogue and such mixed better, because it's entirely possible the dialogue is mixed really well for 5.1 audio setups but isn't coming through as clear condensed into your TV speakers. I find playing around with audio settings whether it's on your TV's settings menu, my Playstation's audio options (switching to Bitstream), or finding the settings in the streaming service I'm using can go a long way to having much better at home audio mixing.
@lindahill1199
@lindahill1199 3 жыл бұрын
Order a ZVOX from HSN. Dialogue is clearer without the background & music. I bought at Xmas for like $89. It was on sale.
@1sotheary
@1sotheary 3 жыл бұрын
These are things I've always done even before I saw this video. I just bought a TV recently for the living room, and when adjusting the settings, I noticed that the "Cinema" mode had the best colors, so that's what I set it at. I also hate the motion smoothing effect. I have no idea why people like this effect.
@toriless
@toriless 3 жыл бұрын
Just avoid Vivid like a plague.
@toriless
@toriless 3 жыл бұрын
Use either "natural" and lower the lighting level or cinema/film and raise it slightly. I avoid all the dynamic / vivid (bad tinting, unrealistic contrast, etc.) and warm modes which distort colors.
@monet5409
@monet5409 3 жыл бұрын
The fact that you referred to soap operas as “my stories” I hit both the “like”and the subscribe”buttons. learned a little something too😄
@jimmyhand1259
@jimmyhand1259 2 жыл бұрын
Something happened to my relatively cheap $248. but just 6 month old bedroom VIZIO TV. The screen had bands of light,, white vertically anywhere there's white in the picture. Could it have happened from a lightening storm or something? I'm not sure, I don't often watch it. Anyway, changing my picture settings really helped taking my screen from barely not being able to see my picture clearly to absolutely being able to enjoy watching it. I mainly use this for watching as I dress, clean my bedroom or bath, catching the news, etc. so really not worth the expense of hiring a repair person or replacing it. Thank you so much!!
@noguardrails47
@noguardrails47 3 жыл бұрын
To my eyes the "warm" setting always makes the whites in the picture - not look white.
@claireredfield4842
@claireredfield4842 3 жыл бұрын
yup I like my whites on the blue side as they look brighter, the cinema yellow whites just look dull and unpleasing.
@wallywatching
@wallywatching 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, I hate “soap opera” effect. It makes everything look like Days of Our Dreary. Also, yes to some behind the scenes stuff.
@StrandgaZt
@StrandgaZt 3 жыл бұрын
It's fine put it slightly up.
@ronniem4487
@ronniem4487 3 жыл бұрын
i must be in the extreme minority, but i love the smoothness high refresh rate of motion smoothing. I always have it turned up on my lg cx
@richardwagner8775
@richardwagner8775 Жыл бұрын
Yes on the behind the scenes testing you do. I love techy stuff, even though I am not an Electronic Techy. Good job Caleb.
@dustballz6717
@dustballz6717 3 жыл бұрын
You just blew my mind with the 📺 tech dump. Now I need my remote to go to settings 😆. Good informative vid.
@doctordothraki4378
@doctordothraki4378 3 жыл бұрын
I also disable overscan on TVs. It is frequently enabled by default. There is no reason for it in the age of fixed pixel displays and digital formats
@doctordothraki4378
@doctordothraki4378 3 жыл бұрын
@Pete Forgione I don't know. If I was in your position, I would look in the manual
@drschwartz
@drschwartz 2 жыл бұрын
I used to hate motion smoothing, however with new TVs (at least with Sony), I feel the technology has advanced enough for it to actually be an enhancement, at least in the 'Low' setting.
@andynewsom
@andynewsom 3 жыл бұрын
I think the main reason people don't like smoothing is that they aren't used to it. If you actually care about picture clarity, you have to have it turned on. Since I was a little kid I've been disappointed by the blurriness of movies in the theater and wondered why they couldn't fix it. I find motion smoothing to be a relief.
@vanquish421
@vanquish421 2 жыл бұрын
Weird to gate keep picture quality, when motion interpolation adds very visible artifacts to the picture. To each their own, but there's good reasons cinephiles and professionals don't use it.
@oldtimer99
@oldtimer99 Жыл бұрын
I might be off but a final summary of your choices at the end but be really helpful. Thanks
@rocjackson5975
@rocjackson5975 11 күн бұрын
It's good to know there is a name for that image look on your tv....the soap opera effect. Even when I was a kid I made a distinction between the cinema look and the soap opera look..even though I didn't know what it was called. To me, the soap opera image looked like it was "live", where as you knew when you were watching a movie...
@imperialexecutioner
@imperialexecutioner 3 жыл бұрын
Would love to see a video about the pros and cons of HDR. Seems like it causes lots of problems with making darks too dark. My old plasma TV, while not 4K, doesn’t have this issue of needing to change settings depending on what you’re watching.
@ghaushahinfinity4910
@ghaushahinfinity4910 2 жыл бұрын
I still have a plasma tv; wonderful tv. And I use it with soundbar and subwoofer. Just perfect.
@ledooni
@ledooni 3 жыл бұрын
I do understand why turning off motion smoothing (especially if it introduces artifacts) is helpful, especially as a reviewer. I do not get however how anyone could ever prefer the stuttery look of 24 fps over 48, 60 or even 120. Might be because I‘m a gamer and I‘m just used to it but I do not just like the faster input response but feel like the additional smoothness makes it look so much more pleasing to the eyes, more realistic and more immersive all at the same time. Personally, I would love for the film industry to finally move away from this outdated standard in times where bigger file sizes and refresh rates of even up to 120 Hz are no longer a problem.
@UltraCasualPenguin
@UltraCasualPenguin 3 жыл бұрын
You're comparing INTERACTIVE media to NON-INTERACTIVE media. Do you know what type of disc would be required to store 4K movie at 120fps at good bitrate?
@ledooni
@ledooni 3 жыл бұрын
@@UltraCasualPenguin I am. There‘s the additional benefit of less input lag with higher frame rates in games but still: motion looks and feels absolutely horrible at anything below 50 in both games and movies. 120 Hz still seems out of reach because of the sheer size, I agree, but I‘d much rather take a little more compression at 4K60 or just 1440p60 than that sluggish 24p BS even despite having a big 4K OLED TV that could well benefit from 4K resolution.
@UltraCasualPenguin
@UltraCasualPenguin 3 жыл бұрын
@@ledooni Again you're comparing INTERACTIVE media to NON-INTERACTIVE media. YES, it matters in GAMES. Nowhere else. If you want motion blur gone your only option is CRT. Even your 360hz gaming TN with BFI loses to Sony FW900 at 120hz.
@ledooni
@ledooni 3 жыл бұрын
@@UltraCasualPenguin And you are equating YOUR OPINION with the TRUTH. Obviously, the perception of motion is somewhat subjective and as I said for me 24 Hz motion is not fine in everything else than games. You might wanna consider accepting other opinions but well… just an idea 🤷🏻‍♂️
@UltraCasualPenguin
@UltraCasualPenguin 3 жыл бұрын
@@ledooni Do you about "opinion" on motion blur in LCDs? That's not an opinion, that's a fact. Reason why 24fps looks bad on LCD is MOTION BLUR.
@rey746
@rey746 3 жыл бұрын
Of course I would like to see a behind scene videos of how do you prepare everything for the review excelente video🔥👍
@barbaramay5048
@barbaramay5048 2 жыл бұрын
My story's 😅.. brought back some fine memories Sir👍..Thanks for the memories ❤️
@lesuforget
@lesuforget 3 жыл бұрын
Yes I would like to see how you calibrate tv most preferred though to do as little as possible for the G1 I plan on buying
@MetaGoblin
@MetaGoblin 3 жыл бұрын
Am I the only one who actually likes the soap opera effect when watching films lmao?
@helmondiaan1
@helmondiaan1 3 жыл бұрын
Nope, i like it too.. i have the new lg c1 and without the soap opera effect the picture "shocks" a tiny bit and it annoys the heck out of me!
@MetaGoblin
@MetaGoblin 3 жыл бұрын
@@helmondiaan1 I just like how smooth and realistic it looks.
@TheCloveart
@TheCloveart 3 жыл бұрын
I know motion smoothing is bad, but when I see juddering or image blur, I try to split the difference with the custom motion smoothing. It’s low, but at least the people and objects moving don’t look like there are leaving a trail. Is there other ways to circumvent juddering?
@mtk3668
@mtk3668 2 жыл бұрын
120hz solves juddering issues seen at 60hz. dont remember the exact explanation, but you need hdmi 2.1 at both ends for enough bandwidth.
@AceBurn90
@AceBurn90 3 жыл бұрын
I actually like the soap-opera effect. 24 Frames should die. Therefor I like the Hobbit 48 FPS effect (but not the story). I Wish more movies and TV series were shot in 60 FPS.
@neosmith166
@neosmith166 3 жыл бұрын
I am there with you on that!! Why does anyone care about 24p and cinematic or what not? It just takes me out of the experience. I want to be immersed in that movie, it should be shot in 60 fps.
@christiandehlinger3731
@christiandehlinger3731 2 жыл бұрын
I do a quick setup for all my clients. Generally warm temp or the low warm if it looks better. Many times custom settings if available. I take all the color out and make the best black and white picture I can make, then bring the color up to a natural level.
@robobass25
@robobass25 11 күн бұрын
Wow. I didn’t know about allot of this stuff! I have a top of the range LED Sony tv that’s about 5 years old now and still amazing. But seeing this I wanna go through it all and see if it’s setup correctly. I did spend ages doing the setup back then. But things could have changed and I didn’t know about allot of this info. Thanks 😁👌
@JudgeSim2
@JudgeSim2 3 жыл бұрын
gone are the days i watch movies in laggy blurry 24fps. ty motion smoothing
@mikelovesbacon
@mikelovesbacon 3 жыл бұрын
Motion smoothing is the first thing I turn on. It did look weird in 2013 when I bought my first TV that supported it, but you get used to it and it loses the "soap opera effect" odness after a while. Today we enjoy true 60fps videos online, so content displayed at 24fps without motion smoothing looks stuttery and awful to me now.
@DigitalTwisted
@DigitalTwisted 3 жыл бұрын
I'm no expert and I may be wrong (and your comment is also 7 months old) but I'm pretty sure that's what they refer to as "Judder". A good TV that has high quality image processing doesn't have any of that judder. It was one of the things I looked for when I upgraded my TV for my PS4 (now PS5) that it would display 24p content without any judder. You'd be surprised how many of the most expensive TV's have problems with 24p content.
@toriless
@toriless 3 жыл бұрын
Newer sets have no 24 FPS shuttering like they did 2 years ago
@Dave21103
@Dave21103 3 жыл бұрын
I agree, the effect completely goes away. It's just better clarity in motion, you can see things clearer with motion interpolation. I even run my own frame interpolation software on my PC, why you might ask since it's built into most TV's. Well I have a Vizio quantum X 75", while this TV is truly amazing it's motion interpolation is garbage. First time had this with a Vizio, let alone their top tier model.
@specialopsdave
@specialopsdave 3 жыл бұрын
I think motion smoothing has it's place, especially in sports like automotive racing, where the AI has a relatively easy time guessing the interpolated frames accurately. I think they should be _broadcast_ at 120fps, if I'm being honest.
@cooliipie
@cooliipie 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely
@vanquish421
@vanquish421 2 жыл бұрын
Most sports are broadcast at 50 - 60 frames, so they're already much smoother than 24 fps movies and shows.
@richardaileen5842
@richardaileen5842 3 жыл бұрын
Caleb; Yes I would love to watch behind the scenes and learn more about the best settings for my tv
@WhiteyHD
@WhiteyHD Жыл бұрын
do you have a video where you go through what settings to turn off for the Sony x90k series from last year?
@kevindudley9617
@kevindudley9617 2 жыл бұрын
I used to always cut off motion smoothing completely off in the past. Since I got a TCL 65R655 very recently, however, I do like keeping motion smoothing set to low when watching movies. When I use the low motion smoothing setting in conjuction with HDR/Dolby Vision dark, it removes judder without making anything look unnatural to my eyes. When I turn the motion smoothing off completely, the 24p judder is just too noticeable particularly during panning shots.
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