Mavrik Standard & Max VS. Epic Flash Standard

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@stevostevopick4003
@stevostevopick4003 4 жыл бұрын
"..and the green was pelted by a copious amount of Cyborg Hail" Well done once again guys👍🍻
@robertreihs5348
@robertreihs5348 4 жыл бұрын
It seems like every time I search for a SPECIFIC video, you guys have it! Thank you for your like-minded content!
@parmanduke
@parmanduke 4 жыл бұрын
Another fantastic review. Just goes to show how awesome the Epic was and that OEM's are nearing a point where improving from previous generations become extremely difficult.
@DaFrase1
@DaFrase1 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for highlighting the Max as I have been on the fence and this video may have pushed me over the edge to pull the trigger. Awesome video guys as always.
@jimmyp6049
@jimmyp6049 4 жыл бұрын
The sound on the Maverick is outstanding in my opinion !
@Zerpersande
@Zerpersande 3 жыл бұрын
Sound comes into play but first and second concerns are how far I can hit it while keeping it in the fairway.
@andrewpotter-cobbold9946
@andrewpotter-cobbold9946 3 жыл бұрын
Without a doubt one of The BEST channels on you tube
@mikecook8059
@mikecook8059 4 жыл бұрын
Does it really matter what driver Matt uses? He hits them all great. Must have something to do with a fantastic golf swing!!! Great job very informative!!
@ArmyGolfBC
@ArmyGolfBC 4 жыл бұрын
Cant see myself giving up the rear weight track in my Flash for a Mavrik. Loving the Flash!
@joshualink6973
@joshualink6973 4 жыл бұрын
"Okay guys welcome back" my favorite
@GolfGangOrDontBang
@GolfGangOrDontBang 4 жыл бұрын
You should compare the old m2 just to see the improvements made in 2020 driver heads compared to a few years back
@BlaKKoutGT
@BlaKKoutGT 3 жыл бұрын
I bet you the 2017 geocoustic m2 holds up to all the drivers today
@brendanhobbart
@brendanhobbart 4 жыл бұрын
That Mavrik dispersion circle is a thing of beauty :-) Good timing too - picking up my Mavrik build today!
@fredrumann6847
@fredrumann6847 4 жыл бұрын
Another great job guys!! I’m glad you showed the weight positioning. I don’t think I’m getting everything out of my Epic flash. Will need to play around with different weight positions. Again thanks and can’t wait for the snow to melt.
@michaelforrester816
@michaelforrester816 4 жыл бұрын
Great stuff guys. Got my epic flash last year after great testing. After half a dozen rounds I couldnt stand the sound!! Swapped for F9 and love it. Maverik sounds great though.
@michaelrood2751
@michaelrood2751 4 жыл бұрын
Great video. Seems like get a very forgiving head - for me my last two were g400 max and TS2 - with the right shaft is the way to go. Gonna try the Mav Max.
@robbbranche
@robbbranche 4 жыл бұрын
Another great test from TXG, really don't like the look on these but you can't see it when you're standing over them and smackin' 'em pretty like Matt does....good performance on all 3!
@JamesThompson-zl2sk
@JamesThompson-zl2sk 4 жыл бұрын
Great video Good to see subscribers numbers still going up
@NikBesko
@NikBesko 4 жыл бұрын
Really like the sound of the regular Maverick for sure
@goatman67al
@goatman67al 4 жыл бұрын
Nice to know I don’t need to upgrade to a Mavrik. Thanks for another great video comparison.
@lynyrd583
@lynyrd583 4 жыл бұрын
Good comparison. Looking at data from a year ago and another source, Draw biased drivers lost MOI to their regular siblings. It would be a great video if you could get a Mid Handicap golfer to test SIM-D vs SIM, and Mavrik Max (Set most draw bias) vs Mavrik, and so on to answer the question do the new Draw biased drivers lose forgiveness? I think this would be extremely helpful to average golfers and their buying decisions. Thanks and keep up the great work!
@jamesburrows5698
@jamesburrows5698 4 жыл бұрын
Great job as always! Really love what you guys do.
@simowhy5303
@simowhy5303 4 жыл бұрын
That Mavrik Max looks a great option for those of us who struggle to square the club face at impact.
@setholson8131
@setholson8131 4 жыл бұрын
Would really love to see a limited release of the Mavrik Max single diamond driver that's on the conforming list. It appears to be designed to have similar MOI but a more neutral CG position.
@whenmullet2674
@whenmullet2674 4 жыл бұрын
Matt could hit 315 yards with a can of corn tied to a broom stick.
@Ticman62
@Ticman62 4 жыл бұрын
Is it just me or is Matt killing it lately. Really hitting it straight. He's always been long.
@MrTkeddo
@MrTkeddo 4 жыл бұрын
I got a standard Epic Flash recently and was mortified when they brought out the Mavrik but feel a bit relieved that it hasn’t lost out too much on performance .
@willfieldiii7150
@willfieldiii7150 4 жыл бұрын
You won't really lose out much if you are an average swinger of the club for one or two generations of club. I'm happy with my cobra f9 even though the SZ is now out. It's how you swing it. ⛳
@canyonaro
@canyonaro 4 жыл бұрын
Don't be - this is the replacement for the Rogue line, which is their cheaper/lighter/less adjustable series. The Mavrik appears to be just as good as the "big brother" Flash. I
@benjaminrichter3935
@benjaminrichter3935 4 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/o2nKk6SlrNymi6s Don't worry...
@freedomisgolf5816
@freedomisgolf5816 3 жыл бұрын
I bought the Max and have never hit so many fairways wish you guys could come here and do fittings
@TLRChad
@TLRChad 4 жыл бұрын
I know it's indoors but the sound of the Flash seems so harsh. The Mavrik is definitely more muted. At least though my speakers it is. Great vid as always gents. Thank you for sharing!
@pipebliss
@pipebliss 4 жыл бұрын
EF sounds very different outside. It's a cannon!
@angelmaldonado6464
@angelmaldonado6464 3 жыл бұрын
Ok. This question will hopefully help me & others understand when Matty says, get a 12* Max & open it so it plays to a 10.5 Static loft,how exactly do I do that? I play at 10.5, so I bought the 12* max. W/HZRDUS Yellow at 45”. I also replaced the cogs from a RH to LH so I was able to lower loft to 10*. To compensate for the 14g weight on the heel, I put 3g of lead tape on the toe side & I’m bombing it with a “butter cut” fade which is what I wanted. I can also now draw it when I need it. Hot melt to replace lead tape when I’m able to. Ian, based on these specs, what is the static loft that I’m playing at with this settings? With the lockdown, I can’t see a fitter yet but I was able to go to the range & see my flight patterns. Slightly higher but longer than my epic flash. I’m 65yo & hit the end marker at 265y upper half of the fence. This is an older video review but I would surely like to hear from you lads on what I’ve done with my Max driver. I just bought the standard Mavrik but yet to test it. Thank you foe your anticipated response.
@davidwilson1952
@davidwilson1952 4 жыл бұрын
got fitted last week for the standard mavrik, I fade the ball and found the max gave me pull shots 1:10. I was F9 last year but agree the standard gave me an option so brought it :)
@richardskinner5050
@richardskinner5050 4 жыл бұрын
A great video. I have the Epic Flash and love the size and shape of the head. Is the moveable weight an advantage in the Flash for us golfers who have a trouble coming over the top and use the weight to help with that?
@StraightLEFTfromPAC
@StraightLEFTfromPAC 4 жыл бұрын
Fact: Alex Etches and Michael Newton’s Longest drives have been with the Rogue Driver. I think Matt May out do his F9 numbers with Rogue if fitted to beast mode (shaft and lead weights etc) The Rogue might have the lightest head, if I’m not mistaken....
@praetorian7861
@praetorian7861 4 жыл бұрын
My Rogue weighs in at 193g. Certainly light, but that Max is WAY light.
@StraightLEFTfromPAC
@StraightLEFTfromPAC 4 жыл бұрын
Marc Tebo How much lighter is it? How much is that weight screw on yours?
@praetorian7861
@praetorian7861 4 жыл бұрын
@@StraightLEFTfromPAC 14g
@gavinwilliams3684
@gavinwilliams3684 4 жыл бұрын
I think the biggest difference is sound and feel really hard to get more yardage wise from last year to this again great review guys when will you be opening fitting centre in the uk 🤞
@bluelizard7995
@bluelizard7995 4 жыл бұрын
Put an XR 16 sub with a tour ad bb 7tx in Matts hands and I would predict the same results.. just saying been on board since 9k subs. Love the channel
@hankthedog
@hankthedog 4 жыл бұрын
Great video guys. Would you guys ever consider a rogue vs flash vs maverik video?
@clubchampionmedia
@clubchampionmedia 4 жыл бұрын
yes on its way in the next few weeks
@MegaMarv23
@MegaMarv23 4 жыл бұрын
Nice video guys, still waiting on the triple diamonds head to head!
@pipebliss
@pipebliss 4 жыл бұрын
I still prefer the adjustable rear track of the EF. Very happy with mine.
@cj18hz
@cj18hz 4 жыл бұрын
Going to be fitting myself into a Callaway in the near future. My challenges are I play a shorter Driver as I am only 5'6". Going 44" just to give me a chance to keep SW under control. My ball speed is around low 150s. I am looking at the MAX. Paired with a Oban Isawa Red or Kiyoshi GOLD (question: going 75grams would help with getting SW back going shorter?) Thoughts on shafts? I swing around 100mph. I can time softer flexes better it seems. I will be going with a LH(I'm RH)sleeve head at 10.5 and positioned to 8.5. Open look knowing weighting should help rotate face back to square. Hoping for a block draw looking flight. My angle of attack is becoming more 1° up swing wise. Are there any thoughts you'd share with my thinking or reactions to this setup?
@johnnyb2562
@johnnyb2562 4 жыл бұрын
Good stuff, as always! I hope you guys do a Mavrik hybrid line test. I still game an X Hot pro hybrid and the Mavrik Pro is exactly the shape I like to see in a hybrid. I'm curious if it'll be a contender to replace Ian's X2 Hot hybrid?
@ronntokuyama3122
@ronntokuyama3122 4 жыл бұрын
Guys great video as always! Any chance you can do one with Epic sub vs Maverick since without ai tech would love to see difference between original epic and new mav!
@MikeDoba
@MikeDoba 4 жыл бұрын
When is the video of the instagram post gonna happen? The one that compares these with previous yr drivers.
@clubchampionmedia
@clubchampionmedia 4 жыл бұрын
filming one or two of those next week
@antti1041
@antti1041 4 жыл бұрын
Seems that you could make low spinning & forgiving driver with Mavrik Max & SZ Extreme with slightly shorter shaft and hotmelting down low. Please make a test and show the numbers!!
@dplourde47
@dplourde47 4 жыл бұрын
Wow boys! Great video 🔥
@nealfreeman01
@nealfreeman01 4 жыл бұрын
Any bring up the fact that Tulon owns the SLDR patent and the back of the Maverik looks almost the same? Which is not a bad thing at all.
@mangelarsson7774
@mangelarsson7774 4 жыл бұрын
Do you often fit players into drivers with lofts around 13-14 degrees or is that a rare occasion?
@scottgibbs7235
@scottgibbs7235 4 жыл бұрын
Similar comparison today on @mark crossfield channel. Coach Lockey wanted to gain some distance on Mark......but he has a ways to go to catch Matty
@thomasgibson8567
@thomasgibson8567 4 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't the better test be the maverick vs the rogue. Being that is the club line its replacing?
@thomaswrigley7343
@thomaswrigley7343 4 жыл бұрын
Could you compare the max with the Fusion driver from a couple of years back.
@michaelg3911
@michaelg3911 3 жыл бұрын
I never paid much attention to this until now. I'm curious about the total number of shots with each head. Matt is shown hitting 5 shots with each head but looking at the shot count at the upper right it looks like he hit 15 with the 1st, 18 with the 2nd, and 14 with the last. The data at the end appears to reflect the shots shown to the viewers. Is a lot of "not so good" shot data getting tossed out? Is Matt a little wilder with his accuracy than we are led to believe? Hey, I like you guys and think you bring great content to the forefront. What's up with the shot count?
@CosmicApe
@CosmicApe 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! What loft were the heads you were using?
@clubchampionmedia
@clubchampionmedia 4 жыл бұрын
10.5
@CosmicApe
@CosmicApe 4 жыл бұрын
@@clubchampionmedia Do you guys tip the shafts at all for Matt, or all they all standard untipped?
@tjkatsoulas9859
@tjkatsoulas9859 4 жыл бұрын
Great info! watch those tight pattern shirts
4 жыл бұрын
Mavrik STD seemed to me to just have a minimal improvement. But on another day the Flash may win. There were no real winners here but the Mavrik STD is a very good product. Maybe the manufacturers should space things out with drivers and have an every TWO year new launch
@dj-qh1kw
@dj-qh1kw 4 жыл бұрын
Since Matt has worked on his swing path he's now hitting some drivers way better than his previous testing. Can you guys tell me what the weight of the epic flash head is please, I heard the maveric at 187gm
@clubchampionmedia
@clubchampionmedia 4 жыл бұрын
Weighed the same as the Mavrik, we checked right before we started filming
@michaelgacon5598
@michaelgacon5598 4 жыл бұрын
Could you do a mavrik max vs razr fit extreme please im looking for a smaller headed driver and want to see the difference.
@michaelashman3951
@michaelashman3951 4 жыл бұрын
Does hitting onto the green affect the distance? Looks like it bounces different and not a fair test
@michaelclarke1986
@michaelclarke1986 3 жыл бұрын
They measure carry not total distance.
@mikerausch50
@mikerausch50 4 жыл бұрын
If only they made the Flash triple diamond left handed, woulda been perfect for your boy Matt! Low launch, less “knuckle” low spin and fade bias. Better sound and feel in MAVRIK.
@curtisrichey4431
@curtisrichey4431 4 жыл бұрын
Long and crazy long!! Nice clubs!!
@ignorance123
@ignorance123 4 жыл бұрын
A lot closer to the Flash model than I would have thought...
@TT-ov1mc
@TT-ov1mc 3 жыл бұрын
Pls have a mid handycap golfer in these tests as well.
@bmathis26
@bmathis26 4 жыл бұрын
Except the sound on all of them is like a bazooka... looking forward to seeing sim vs M6... could y’all do a sim vs m4? Thanks guys
@brendanhobbart
@brendanhobbart 4 жыл бұрын
You should go try the standard Mavrik somewhere. The sound is sublime. Not at all bazooka like :-)
@DaveFogel
@DaveFogel 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly what I asked for. You guys are great! ... oh wait, i asked for sz... close enough :)
@clubchampionmedia
@clubchampionmedia 4 жыл бұрын
we did SZ comparison last week! 😆
@DaveFogel
@DaveFogel 4 жыл бұрын
@@clubchampionmedia epic flash sz vs normal mavrik. I hear a lot of pros dumped sz for normal this year
@greenadam21
@greenadam21 4 жыл бұрын
What does. “10.5 open” refer to as a setting ?
@chadanderson3591
@chadanderson3591 4 жыл бұрын
Using the 12 degree and by opening the face you de-loft it down to 10.5
@greenadam21
@greenadam21 4 жыл бұрын
@@chadanderson3591 Unless you buy a special sleeve that lofts down 2 degrees you cant do that ...they only got one down/ and two up
@austinlauer1910
@austinlauer1910 4 жыл бұрын
@@greenadam21 True. Although, I'm sure you could get them to throw in an opposite handed sleeve to make that happen.
@greenadam21
@greenadam21 4 жыл бұрын
Crazy enough callaway won’t do it You have to order just the sleeve
@Mjwest23
@Mjwest23 4 жыл бұрын
Any pickup in clubhead speed with the standard Mavrik and the "aerodynamics" it provides?
@canyonaro
@canyonaro 4 жыл бұрын
Mike West When they show the numbers you can see he lost a little ball speed with the Max but carry was just as far due to lower spin. If he went down more on loft he'd get that ball speed back but spin might get too low and turn it into a hook machine for him. We mortals won't have that problem.
@Mjwest23
@Mjwest23 4 жыл бұрын
@@canyonaro right, I see the ball speed. I'm just curious if any club head speed was picked up with the more "aerodynamic" head with the Mavrik, not the Max
@waynethomas9957
@waynethomas9957 4 жыл бұрын
another great video im going for a fitting thia week I will try a;; 3
@jakelindsay6251
@jakelindsay6251 4 жыл бұрын
Gimme Epic Flash all day with that little grouping. Outstanding LR dispersion. Nothing in it with the distance.
@TTT-Turbo
@TTT-Turbo 4 жыл бұрын
My mate had the epic flash and had it hot melted but something happened and it pulled the back off the face and was rattling about. Callaway cut the driver open and said we aren't helping u as someone hot melted it so void his warranty. He was fizzing. So he had to buy a new driver!!
@michaelosadchey1976
@michaelosadchey1976 4 жыл бұрын
0
@NovaScene
@NovaScene 4 жыл бұрын
That is a weird place to put the green guys 🧐 That gives like zero bounce/roll??
@keiththompson2172
@keiththompson2172 4 жыл бұрын
Who wrote your into music ? 👍
@johnnypenso9574
@johnnypenso9574 4 жыл бұрын
Identical results from all three IMO. Get fitted for a 1-2 year old driver and save $$.
@bobverbeke1205
@bobverbeke1205 4 жыл бұрын
I moved from the Epic Flash SZ to the Mavrik Max. I went into the fitting not expecting enough difference to warrant a change. Tired all three Mavrik's and the SZ was too low spin and the regular Max was too high. i don't hit the center face as often as Mattie so I saw a 10mph average ball speed increase and a better launch angle with the Max. Heavy weight in the back - of course.
@calebfp9
@calebfp9 3 жыл бұрын
Can you elaborate on feel, sound, spin and distance on the max when moving the weight to the draw or heel setting?
@landonvanhorn592
@landonvanhorn592 4 жыл бұрын
The regular mavrik sound so much better than the other two... other than that its the same driver with different colors
@DanielRodrigues-hn8cx
@DanielRodrigues-hn8cx 4 жыл бұрын
Big difference in sound. Way less tinny
@ReedServices
@ReedServices 4 жыл бұрын
So … tell me again why RoboMatty isn’t on tour!
@canyonaro
@canyonaro 4 жыл бұрын
Brent Reed because they edit out his snap hooks. Matt's also said it's easy banging balls into the wall inside but on the course, with consequences, he's much less accurate. I've had the same issues. Dead center strikes down the line during the fitting, spray it all over on the course. Sometimes it just doesn't translate, which is why adjustable drivers are awesome. I always end up making another tweak after the fitting to get it where I need it.
@chrisfrost6581
@chrisfrost6581 4 жыл бұрын
....been waiting for this.....
@gatorwhiskers9011
@gatorwhiskers9011 4 жыл бұрын
how about rogue vs mavrik?
@clubchampionmedia
@clubchampionmedia 4 жыл бұрын
coming soon
@georgesteer4137
@georgesteer4137 4 жыл бұрын
OK, who's not repairing their ball marks?
@speedinon
@speedinon 4 жыл бұрын
Looks like the greens on the cheap course I play. LOL
@ronmarcelo7370
@ronmarcelo7370 4 жыл бұрын
Thank goodness they addressed the sound from the Epic Flash. What a terrible sounding driver that was.
@robbiles
@robbiles 4 жыл бұрын
Given the robot hitting them I don't see much advance from the Epic to the Mav. Definitely not enough reason to pay the money all over again.
@benjaminrichter3935
@benjaminrichter3935 4 жыл бұрын
All total distances are within a standard deviation of each other. There is no significant difference between these.
@austinlauer1910
@austinlauer1910 4 жыл бұрын
Right, but Matty is pretty consistent so there could be more differences for others. The sound in my opinion is quite a bit better for the Mavrik.
@benjaminrichter3935
@benjaminrichter3935 4 жыл бұрын
@@austinlauer1910 yes the sound is way better. Other factors to consider in tests like these with a very small sample is if progressively got a bit warmer and peaked while testing the last club. I also wish they would leave the green out because it introduces a different surface and possibly inconsistent roll out depending on where and when the ball reaches the green.
@upperom
@upperom 4 жыл бұрын
Me, a 12 handicap watching a driver testing video of a guy who can carry it +300 yards: "I now know the exact new driver I should buy."
@swalker9513
@swalker9513 4 жыл бұрын
Fix those pitch marks.
@TenPester
@TenPester 4 жыл бұрын
Ian: "We haven't done too much testing with this last year" Matt: thinking..."It's because it's green?"
@neilgardner5759
@neilgardner5759 4 жыл бұрын
Coach Lockey has just be fit for a Mavrik Max Driver...just saying must be a decent club
@benlemoi3515
@benlemoi3515 4 жыл бұрын
The maverick sounds so much better. The epic flash sounds like an aluminum baseball bat
@bl6369
@bl6369 4 жыл бұрын
you peppered that green, better fix your ball marks!!
@jdc43069
@jdc43069 4 жыл бұрын
Max sounds horrible
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