Tyler Baltierra Reflects on "DISAPPOINTING" Choice Made by Daughter’s Adoptive Parents | E! News

[@pitbull7885]

it will be interesting to see where all this goes when she turns 18 years old....

[@BMarie774]

I imagine they she will reach out within a year or two of turning 18. I have a feeling she might resent her adoptive parents a bit. Love them nonetheless. But she missed out on her siblings childhoods in large part. That’s unfair.

[@Lana_3131]

@@BMarie774they had drug addiction parents showing them no love or support. They did what was best for her daughter. Not an easy decision either! I think everyone needs to remember their childhood was traumatic and they only wanted better for Carly. If Carly can’t see that as a grown adult, then that’s sad. Carly will be fine with them once she’s 18. The adoptive parents will be regretting their actions I think.

[@No-os6bw]

She will go to her bio parents because of the controlling adoptive parents. She also has bio sisters that she will want to be involved with and want to see grow-up. I don’t know my bio dad, but I was able to meet my bio father’s family when I turned 17. I was angry I was kept from them. They will have to deal with that wrath when it comes around. It’s all recorded how much Cait and Tyler want to be involved with Carly, the adoptive parents will end up regretting the hostility they created.

[@catd315]

I can only imagine how Carly feels. I’m sure there are things behind the scenes that we don’t see. But if Carly has watched the show when they made the decision to place her for adoption, then she knows her parents loved her more than themselves. They both grew up through extremely difficult circumstances. I remember watching Catelynn when she was pregnant. You could feel her pain when they were trying to make the decision. It was heartbreaking. And the fact that Catelynn and Tyler are married with Carly’s three sisters, I’m sure that she will reach out when she is 18.

[@diannh2894]

Who had a drug problem? ​@@Lana_3131

[@ashleymichelle7523]

It doesn’t matter at the end that girl is going to turn 18 and do whatever she wants …. If she wants to live with them she will .

[@marissa._]

"it"?

[@ashleymichelle7523]

Thank you , cellphone error. Just fix it 😅

[@summerhill93]

As a fellow adoptee myself, I hope she makes this choice.

[@petitepersianperspective3468]

@@summerhill93What? I’m an adoptee as well yet this seems like an asinine comment. Carly will likely continue to stay with the mom and dad who’ve raised her for her entire life! And I as an adoptee, would completely support that choice over going to those who simply contributed to her DNA!

[@cristinacervantes1612]

Or not maybe she is the one that doesnt like her bio parents exposing their lives like that

[@SusieQZee]

They will always hold the regret of giving her up for adoption. It was a mistake of a lifetime.

[@summerhill93]

It almost always is. Birthmother grief and pain - and even affected grandparent, and aunt/uncle pain, is lifelong as far as I have seen thus far.

[@SleepyEyeglasses-us2tn]

They couldn't keep Carly. They lived with parents who were and are addicts. I can understand why Brandon and Teresa feel the way they do being a conservative Christian myself, but I don't agree with how they choose to go about things I think Catlynn and Tyler deserve to see Carly. Nova should see her sister.

[@blueswadeshoes4012]

Big time

[@Mommyof425]

Except would Cate and Tyler be in thw same place if they had the teen drama of having a baby. And would Carly have been harmed being around her grandparents who were also not in good places. We are only looking at the end result. Not where is started.

[@ablair33556]

@@Mommyof425 they had no idea that the show was gonna blow up like it did. They didn’t think they were going to have the money to raise her , and they thought they weren’t going to get to go to college , which they didn’t any way. If they had known that they were gonna have the money that they do , they wouldn’t have given her up.

[@ensabahnur3104]

I can understand that, the adoptive parents have a right to say no, and the birth parents have a right to feel sad if that was not the agreement. (I dont know of it is in writing, but they definitely agreed to that on tv prior to the adoption)

[@yup_im_tiff]

It’s in writing, but it’s nothing that can be legally enforce. so with any open adoption, you can promise things to the birth parents like visits letters pictures annually simi annually, whatever but you can change your mind about that whenever you want to so three, four five years down the line as the legal parents You change your mind and you never have to speak to those people again until after your child turns 18 if you so please there’s nothing in the law that says you have to allow visits or communication bio parents have zero rights.

[@user-st9pd6ux5i]

I’m pretty sure it wasn’t agreed upon for Catelyn and Tyler to be on a p*rn website either.

[@BrandyTexas214]

It’s at the birth parents will. They can decide not to do visits if they think it’s for the best

[@BlueLuna5]

Brandon and Theresa are the legal parents now. They can legally do whatever they want. They are not babysitters.

[@femdivinemind7777]

Half of their agreement is in writing half was verbal. They were naive

[@mariaarellano6257]

The fact that Catelynn and Tyler fight so hard to see Carly and they have 3 other daughters is really telling. They are such good and loving parents. If my mom was in that situation, my mom could care less if she saw me every 10 years. I’m 44 and she barely picks up my phone calls and I only talk to her 2-3 times a year. She’ll pick up or call me when she’s broke and needs money for the casino. Any ways, I’m sorry for Catelynn and Tyler. It’s a difficult situation and they should be allowed to have a human reaction. But again you can tell they love Carly. As do Brandon and Teresa. But I’m sure Carly is in the most loving ans capable hands with Brandon and Teresa.

[@summerhill93]

Not really. If the adopters were so loving they would do what is best for Carly not themselves. Rely adoption should be just for real orphans.

[@user-st9pd6ux5i]

@summerhill93 They are doing whats best for their daughter, they’re protecting her from Carolyn and Tyler’s poor decision to be on a literal p*rn website.

[@amcra1]

@@user-st9pd6ux5iand?????

[@jilliansherrard2152]

@@user-st9pd6ux5iyeah…I m not sure why they chose to do that….was it money? They had to know this would affect their relationship with Carly s parents who are in full control

[@rmes6]

Listen they are almost looking so stupid They freely placed this child in others who are giving her a wonderful life Both of you have no right to trash adoption We have two joys in our lives who were lovingly adopted from parents who were teens with zero money You can't expect your daughters to be "sisters" with the adopted ones Ours do not have that concept Stop having babies You learned NOTHING

[@ShivaLadiva-sb9nw]

Open adoption should be left open ...i think it will definitely backfire on the adopting parents when carly can make her own decisions

[@Abmafatima]

No

[@jeffsflame1991]

You are so wrong, the parents may see the damage it’s been causing her

[@BlueLuna5]

No bc most likely is carly making the decision. Parents are taking the fall. She's 15.

[@jcyensen1236]

That is not the way it is. This is Carly's home and life and the only life she knows or had and you just do not turn 18 and say whoops I will go to my biological family now.

[@femdivinemind7777]

It's yearly visits y'all acting like they wanted her for the summer

[@a.walters123]

I can understand adoptive parents wanting to keep their life separate and private now, BUT, Caitlyn gave them her own flesh and blood first born baby when they themselves couldn’t have one. She carried that baby for NINE MONTHS and selflessly gave her up to them. Asking for one visit a year is more than reasonable, she gave you a child of your own.

[@2jcward]

Ok but they want their own lives and that could confuse her at that age. You have to think she has her own life too.

[@kayladavis7140]

But it was agreed at birth that they would get visits and they should have held up to that

[@calebdouglas7622]

@@kayladavis7140In an open adoption the adoptive parents can change their mind at any time and they would be well within their rights.

[@takeyawilson4383]

​@2jcward If god willing, you will be an adult longer than you will be a child, The adopted parents is taking a risk Of losing her once she turns eighteen, Because of them, keeping her away from her birth parents

[@SaynabYusuff]

But didn't they agree on those terms the day of the adoption we all watched it. And sending her photos. I mean I just don't know why they didn't keep their house for the deal. She was young and you could tell she didn't want to give up her baby.

[@mainlands4246]

This really consumes their lives. You can tell they want Carly back they just don't say it. They need actual therapy

[@jcyensen1236]

Exactly. They need a good therapist for theirselves and their emotions and behaviors and feelings because the way they are acting is about them and not the adoptive parents or Carly.

[@HaleyBenedict-wl6zi]

I don't think you watch the show they have done A LOT of therapy....

[@jcyensen1236]

@@HaleyBenedict-wl6zi Their therapy On theirselves over their lives living and growing up with parents addictions and abusive behavior and what it did to them and how they ended up giving that child up for adoption but the others was a counselor to help them how to act on visits with the child and adoptive parents. I have watched this from the beginning and all I am saying they have to be careful with their behavior is my opinion or they will frightened her and drive her away.

[@rarehearts2602]

Carly’s a teenager now, she may be feeling anger towards them bc Cate and Ty gave her away while they kept three of their kids, at the end of the day Brandon and Theresa are her LEGAL parents maybe their just respecting her choice

[@summerhill93]

According to Tyler, it wasn't her choice.

[@Angelface11]

And it was necessary. They were both around terrible addict parents who were abusive. It wouldn't have been a good situation for a baby to be in.

[@flbeblue1423]

Well at 15 she’s in the world one way or another maybe hearing her bios are on fans only might not appeal to her hard to imagine that her adoptive parents didn’t ask her if she wants to go or if she didn’t say to them I’m going to go go see them

[@femdivinemind7777]

Or maybe she's questioning her adoptive parents

[@user-tj8su5pl9d]

It is well known that it is best for adopted children to have contact with their birth parents if they are deemed to be safe!

[@yup_im_tiff]

A lot of adoptive parents don’t care about that they want to be the only parents

[@Zahra-wd3md]

I totally agree, I was attacked in comments when I said that in a Grace report video.

[@PrincessJayJay17]

True. But it could be Carly’s choice and B and T could be taking the heat for her so she doesn’t have to tell her bio parents she said no. I’m sure we will find out once she is an adult and can speak out if she wants to.

[@yup_im_tiff]

@@PrincessJayJay17 they’ve actually given reasons on why they can’t see here. They don’t want any pictures shown on the show or of her on social media and they don’t want the visit or the child talked about on the show at all. So basically they adopted the child from a tv show and they don’t want said child talked about on that tv show

[@courtneycoley8487]

Is it mentally and emotionally safe when your bio parents are attacking the parents who raised u online??

[@Nee2943]

I never liked the way Teresa bombarded Catelynn in the delivery room while she was trying to connect with Carly. I really hated that interaction and I knew this would happen from the very beginning. The biological parents have the right to change their minds up until the adoption is official, and Teresa did not give them space to decide.

[@emcooper3031]

Just like Teresa wouldn't let Catelynn and Tyler enjoy a dance with Carly during their wedding. She went right out on the dance floor and stuck herself to them. Both times she showed situational aggression to control them. Her smiles and overt friendliness hide a threatened and very territorial adoptive parent.

[@bluedream7458]

@@emcooper3031I couldn’t agree more, Teresa was very aggressive inserting herself when Cait was bonding w Carly.. I also feel that’s when Cait should have right then & there said “I changed my mind” and it would have been OK..I can’t help but feel something bad went down that B & T did not like and are punishing C& T for it..I wish they would just communicate w C&T already, nothing good comes of ignoring a very heated situation..Thus can send Carly right into C& Ts home in three years and I hope it does to be very honest..

[@ElectricAngel181]

I know one thing for sure that if Carly does go to visit Tyler and Caitlin she will be surrounded by so much love and they will protect her with their lives. They have Always wanted to see Carly as much as they were allowed.

[@jcyensen1236]

Its not the time in question. The issue are their behaviors when they see her. Getting their young ones all involved in their feelings is not healthy minded situation to visit. Its all too emotional and not an wise situation to get into for any of them in my opinion. They really need to cool off their emotions and think what is best and not try turn Carly's life upside down. Years ago they made their decision and now they want to change it and their wants are not wise for the child's life. Especially teens. The worse thing you can do to a teen is uproot their life, friend, school and home even if its the child you are raising.

[@carol-annesomerville7880]

Maybe Carly doesn’t want a visit because she’s at that teenage age where everyone who’s older is uncool and it’s plastered all over tv and the internet. Maybe they’re doing it for Carly. Kaitlyn and Tyler should stop and think before blasting anyone. One of their visits they were nearly 2hrs late and Carly’s parents didn’t say a word. So it works both ways. They’re lucky they see her at all.

[@justmythoughts2962]

Can you imagine how embarrassed she must be by some of this stuff ? Carly is likely over there trying to live a normal life. Whereas her younger bio siblings are growing up thinking that their life is NORMAL. Poor kids.

[@amcra1]

@@justmythoughts2962what’s not normal about it

[@minimalist2036]

Maybe Carly doesn’t want to see Caitlyn and Tyler. They live very differently than she does. Her parents are more conservative and traditional whereas C&T are not. She may feel uncomfortable around them.

[@amcra1]

do y’all watch the show. She wants to see them

[@a.walters123]

Ironically this is the one couple who were responsible enough to keep the child they had as teenagers. Most of the other moms should have chose adoption, and the only responsible couple did.

[@lilc5353]

For real 😢

[@Mummyk01]

I think brandon and teresa are so scared that carly will want to be with catelynn and tyler once she becomes 16 or 18.

[@summerhill93]

Exactly. And adolescence is when we form our adult identities. She should be with her kin.

[@mya3601]

@@summerhill93I think she going want to be with her real parents and siblings no matter what adoptive children always want to know where they came from and secondly. She’ll have alot of questions

[@Mommyof425]

Not at all scared. They are trying to keep her safe and secure. He bio parents do only fans and blast her adult I've parents all over social media.

[@BlueLuna5]

No, kids pick their adoptive parents. That's her parents!

[@femdivinemind7777]

💯

[@saramarshall2957]

In 3 years she can decide this for herself. Cates feelings are just hurt. I get it. Those visits mean everything to her

[@summerhill93]

They most likely mean everything to Carly too.

[@christ00714]

I think they regret giving their daughter to adoption after seeing them thrive as cast members on the show for all these years. They are obviously paid for these shows and most likely realize they could’ve taken care of Carly and feel like they made a bad choice. I think it’s to bad really.

[@sleepyandhollow.]

I'm sorry but I think if her parents are choosing to opt out of visitation with them it's because Carly doesn't want to. She is old enough to voice what she feels/wants and I highly doubt they would choose this against her wishes if it's what she wanted. If they are choosing what they think is best for their daughter, then as a parent of a teen myself, I am sure it's what carly wants.

[@Kateeee83]

She's 15 now, but this isn't an issue that just came up. They have played them multiple times and didn't have the visit. It maybe the case, now ? Maybe not. We don't know. But I truly believe that when she is older she will come around and there will be a better and closer relationship. I pray for the children sake that happens. And if she watches from the beginning of it all she would know how devastating a choice it was and they really did what was the absolute best for her at the time.

[@yup_im_tiff]

They been stopped letting them see, visit or talk to her. They don’t like that they’re a public family they don’t want their daughter talked about or shown on tv.

[@sleepyandhollow.]

@@yup_im_tiff that's understandable, neither would I. they didn't sign up for all this, im sure they could never expect a doc about 16 & pregnant would become an eternal tv franchise

[@femdivinemind7777]

They did it before Carly was 5 too

[@Dakkngoff]

Brandon and Teresa also have an adopted son. They cut his parents off to. Research Brandon and Teresa Davis.

[@BearXSavage]

unfortunately this is one of the downsides of adoption and it being journeyed thru tv. both sides will always have pain

[@AmberUnavailable]

I can’t wait for Carly to turn 18… Those adoptive parents need to wake up call

[@brittanyKuchiki]

I mean every time they see her it’s always filmed and being put out on tv maybe it’s not just the adoptive parents saying no, Carly is old enough to make a decision on if she wants to see them

[@malcriadamedina5358]

Lies, she has never been shown on tv, she has never been "filmed"

[@danie1018]

​@@malcriadamedina5358 that's not true, they filmed their first visit with her

[@malcriadamedina5358]

@@danie1018 what like over a decade ago when that she was still a baby..

[@LEDANCETHERAPY]

The last visits were not films. I mean, they filmed them getting ready to see her and after, but they didn’t film Carly in the last visit so I don’t think that was an issue.

[@AmberUnavailable]

I can’t wait for Carly to turn 18 and actually watch how much Caitlyn and Tyler have gone through for her and how ignorant and selfish her adoptive parents have been literally throughout this entire journey

[@Mommyof425]

So be frustrated! You are allowed your feelings BUT stop commenting on social media. This of your daughter. Even if she loves you all and wants to see you. She will be torn if you are bad mouthing her parents. You might just be turning her off from seeing you later.

[@LEDANCETHERAPY]

This is the first time that she’s ever badmouth them to that extent and I believe she’s purposely putting it on social media because she feels that she has a platform to fight for her child and the rights that she has in the open option to see her child so at this point, I don’t really think there’s anything wrong with it because that puts pressure on the parents to follow through with the commitment that they signed on for when they decided to do an open adoption

[@spiltjuiceboxes]

I don’t think people are grasping adoption laws. An open adoption is not in definite, if biological parents violate the terms and conditions of the adoption being open, it can close for the best interest of the child. Technically, they don’t even have rights to see the child they placed into adoption the second they sign those papers they no longer had a say and I don’t think they truly understood the terms and conditions at 15/16 years old.

[@yup_im_tiff]

I agree. If you look at old episodes it seems like they thought they’d be able to see and talk to her often and of course the adoption agent didn’t correct them

[@summerhill93]

@@yup_im_tiff Deception - outright and by omission - by adoption agents should also be illegal and prosecuted. The emotional cost for relinquishing mothers and natural families is too great for this not to be discussed. But adoption is big business, and in adoption, profit and possession come before people.

[@annmcdonald7713]

​@@summerhill93 exactly

[@ChristyGarza]

There should be something placed in adoption that makes the adoption either able to be reversed or something done to the adoptive parents if they do not uphold their side of the agreement. That couple makes me sick every time i see them. They knew what they were doing by both of them being so young at the time. They took advantage of them along with that crooked adoption agent.

[@Zahra-wd3md]

Me also. With their fake insincere smiles. They are constantly blackmailing them with the visits. First it was no filming, than it was no posting and now they can't even talk about their feelings on social media without being bashed. Everything always has to be on their terms. Never letting them spend alone, even at the wedding they were supervising constantly, not even letting them have a moment alone.

[@summerhill93]

Exactly. Every human child wants to be with their biological family if at all possible. It is needed for proper development. Imo the adopters are extremely selfish and should have returned Carly when it became obvious T&C were viable parents. Maybe this situation can serve to help reform unfair adoption laws.

[@Zahra-wd3md]

@summerhill93 I agree. But I don't know about the giving her back part. Because I don't think that would be healthy for Carly either, because she did get used to B&T being her parents. And she was raised by them. That could confuse her. And would take away stabiluty. But they do need to spend more than just 1 day a year together. And from what I understand, most of the time, they didn't even get that and wouldn't see her for a couple of years. They could celebrate holidays together or birthdays. With the adoption, they clearly said once a year visit and pictures. Carly should be able to bond with her sisters also. I think it would be harder to bond if they just see each other once in a couple of years. I think B&T are selfish. Carly may be afraid to bring it up, because she doesn't want to hurt her adoptive parents feelings, but I'm sure that she would like to spend more time with her family. Maybe they could change the law that they may have more time to change their mind. Especially with minors. And it should be prohibited to let minors sign without an independant lawyer present, who represent the birth parents rights. And if adoptive parents, don't do what was agreed upon, that a lawyer could force them to hold their promiss unless there are heavy reasons, not to. Just like they take care of visitation rights with divorced parents. And maybe 'force' adoptive parents to let their child see them for at least 2 or 3 hours a year.

[@summerhill93]

This is an argument that is used, that the adopted child has bonded, but the genetic tie is a natural bond and a biological need. In the cases where the child is returned even at an older age, they fit right in and resent the adopters who fought against the return. I think it was Baby M who is an example of this.

[@Zahra-wd3md]

@@summerhill93 Could be in some cases, depending on de home situation. If there wasn't neglect/ abuse from the biological parents before I think it could work. Also maybe it depends on how long they have been adopted and what age they are. If they are really little, they could also maybe miss the adoptive parents. It is different individually. Every case is unique.

[@jackiethair78]

I wish they didn’t adopt her. They should’ve just kept her. They shouldn’t listen to their parents and everyone else saying they couldn’t do it because they seem to be good parents.

[@DellaWatson-cz3mq]

It wasn't their parents. Even catelyn wanted to keep the baby after she was born. It was actually Tyler that said we go through with the adoption or I'm breaking up with you

[@DawnAsher-ww2wr]

They agreed to visits before adoption. Should uphold that

[@Interestingname]

It was until age 5. The adoptive parents still kept it open past then but the minute they give an inch C and T want a mile. They brought her to their wedding, shared baby clothes and all. Also nothing was legally binding BUT the actual adoption. The child is 15 and Tyler is selling nudes on insta in between these same posts. Where they admit they want Carly’s friends to see them. It’s gross. They need to stop focusing on what makes them feel better and think of all the children here instead.

[@Nevada-cb2]

They have every right to be upset. Her adoptive parents agreed to let them stay in her life and they lied. I feel like they think Carly would want to be with her real parents and siblings if they allow her to spend time with them. And now that she’s 15, that could actually happen.

[@summerhill93]

Every child would prefer to be with their real family if they could. This is why adoption should be only for true orphans and as open as possible with the openness enforced by law.

[@ekg891]

Also I remember Brandon and Theresa said they are quite Christian and their Christianity is important. I think they watched the show and maybe saw some stuff about Tyler Nd Caitlin that they didn't like or don't want to rub off on their kid, considering T&C aren't religious at all and the likes.

[@SleepyEyeglasses-us2tn]

​@ekg891 So I am a Conservative Christian and I don't agree with. Brandon and Teresa. I think Cate and Tyler are Christians look how Nova talks about God. I can understand them not agreeing with everything they do but with Cate and Tyler they wouldn't have Carly.

[@ekg891]

@@SleepyEyeglasses-us2tn sure but I was thinking beyond that. It doesn't seem like Tyler nor Cait go to Church at all, Brandon and Theresa on the other hand said they did. Also it might not be Tyler and Cait in particular who they have have issues with but rather the other family members and their behaviours. Seeing Tyler and Cait's parents isn't reassuring and I could understand if Brandon and Theresa would rather Carly not have the chance to mingle with them too much plus Caitlin clearly struggling mentally a lot. Add the issue of everything being talked about on a show.

[@lilc5353]

I think they should allow face time

[@mikylasmith1801]

Caitlyn is ABSOLUTELY RIGHT all those tears of gratitude by the adoptive parents seem a bit EMPTY ...holding her and not allowing the annual visit IS JUST PLAIN CRUELTY...dont hold it in Caitlyn ❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@janellemccann93]

As an adoptee I can almost guarantee it’s the daughter that does not want the connection anymore. She knows who her family is and it doesn’t include them. She owes them nothing.

[@femdivinemind7777]

​@@janellemccann93you werent catelyns child you cant speak on what Carly wants she loves her sisters and birth parents

[@CE-jl1lv]

@@femdivinemind7777she might be in a resentment phase right now. We don’t know

[@femdivinemind7777]

@@CE-jl1lv then Dawn and C+T should be involved in that process cs B+T do not have the tools or the information to support her through that. Only her parents who gave her up can help her with that.

[@jeffsflame1991]

You don’t now what Carly is feeling. Sharing happy family pictures can be a trauma most people don’t understand how adoptees feel. They really need to back off on this if her friends are watching this show and talking to her I can’t imagine the pain she’s going through. Let the girl be wait for her to come to you when she’s ready or wants to. I am an adoptee I met my bio family the sisters that were adopted and the siblings that grew up after we were gone. Believe me it’s not as easy as you think talking to siblings and growing up with our parents. I think her adopted parents are so right to keep her away.

[@yourpetyourway]

Instead of calling it "adoption" it should be called "lay-a-way". I'm sure the adoptive parents are doing what's right for their daughter and her mental health.

[@yup_im_tiff]

They don’t want her mentioned on tv or on the internet. They literally adopted a child from a teen on a tv its very strange to want privacy after adopting a child from tv… it seems the relationship was getting a bit to close when the children referred to themselves as sisters once that happened and visits stop

[@lilc5353]

​@yup_im_tiff but they are sisters

[@CitiesLeftOnFire]

Maybe it’s not just her parents that are saying no.

[@Genna-qp2ey]

I thought about that too. Maybe Carly doesn’t want the visit

[@CitiesLeftOnFire]

@@Genna-qp2ey I’d imagine she gets picked on at school if she’s not homeschooled. 14 is a hard age how could you hide 16 and pregnant from that generation? Its everywhere

[@august21xp]

I agree if I was the child I would be upset they gave me away , became famous and I would question if they already had the MTV contract then why would they give me up anyway for money ??? then go on to have 3 more kids and still on tv ??? I would be oissed !

[@KLC_xoxo]

@@august21xp 16 & pregnant was just a tv show of different girls if you rewatch her episode you can definitely tell why they gave her up now here comes teen mom and now they have money and other kids of course they would have wished it was different but it’s not

[@aishariel9924]

@@KLC_xoxo you can tell they didn’t watch the OG show from the beginning.

[@sophiecormier7031]

Sounds like adoption is a hard thing to do. Cate and Ty chose to gave up Carly to give her a better life. It won't help to take it publicly and talk about Brandon and Theresa. Talk to them and vent to Tyler or some you trust. Venting publicly won't help your case.

[@summerhill93]

What kind of “better life” is it really when you start out in life losing your entire family and all the relatives to come? Think how devastating that would be for an adult, yet it is ok for a child?

[@judyannkhans4143]

I wish they will never give her up, i bet carly is angry with her birth parents

[@Apocalypse92Apo]

Any family that exposes and put their family online for money instead of getting a real job and protecting their child from the internet isn't doing their job properly, I agree there needs to be communication etc as that was the agreement plain and simple and somthing along the line has gone wrong I respect they fight for their child but they also need to stop leaking stuff and think of their child's adopted parents and the privacy they want

[@Interestingname]

Unsure. It was until age 5 then up to the adoptive parents. They are not coparenting. Carly isn’t in foster care. It was to be a closed adoption until the birth. Then C and T changed their mind post birth. What’s gone wrong is them overstepping boundaries, not respecting the bio parents and Tyler selling nudes online.

[@lilc5353]

​@@InterestingnameThere were problems before only fans

[@lilc5353]

​Tyler said if that's the problem, they will stop @Interestingname

[@Interestingname]

@@lilc5353 damage is done. He knows they adopted Carly to a religious conservative family. They’ve also caused so much harm in the mean time.

[@user-st9pd6ux5i]

As a mom I can understand why they would say no to a visit. They’re literally on a p*rn website. People know who they are, they know who their daughter is, and they know who the adopted parents are because they’re on tv. That opens their daughter up for p*d*philes to come find her. It’s just common sense to not allow your child around people who are doing that. Catelyn and Tyler have messed up big time because now everything they do on that website is going to come back and bite their kids in the butt. They also chose to give her up for adoption, they chose to sign their parental rights away to somebody else. That being said the adoptive parents hold all the rights and the power to make decisions for their daughter, they have the right to protect her and say no. I get people wanting to make some extra cash, I get they’re consenting adults, and “can do whatever tf they want” but when you are public with your children on the front row of the internet it’s probably not the greatest idea to start using a p*rn website to make extra money because of your kids safety and future.

[@MS-ty8eq]

😳😳😳 I didn't know about the OF. Holy moly who would want to see those two getting it on? 🤢

[@clairecarlton3899]

Carly’s adoptive parents will regret this! I feel Carly will turn on them eventually for not letting her see her birth parents and full siblings! I was adopted and when I turned 14 I turned on my adoptive parents for trying to keep me as their own and block me from my family members! It hurts deep down! She will never forget how unselfish her birth parents have been and how selfish her adoptive parents have been! And I find people who cannot conceive themselves often do this they try to erase all the child knows from before and that’s not right! 😢

[@WinterJMG]

Amen. She def will and I can see Brandon and Theresa saying bad stuff about them behind their backs because of how petty they’ve been in not honoring the vow they made after adoption. Shame on them both!

[@ekg891]

Yeah plus everything has been documented on tv. She's definitely watching or going to watch everything and be upset that she never got to spend time with her bio family.

[@mstoby76]

GOD BLESS!!!praying for your family!!!🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼❤️❤️❤️!!!

[@Allinmyworld]

I hate that Carly was adopted by Brandon and Teresa. They changed after they had the baby. It's sad but i think Catelynn and Tyler's story about an adoption almost serves as a warning. Who can know the decisions you make at 16 years old can affect the rest of your life? You never know.

[@rebeccamace1534]

I’ve always felt that Brandon and Teresa said whatever they needed to say to be chosen as parents, and once the adoption was finalised, their true colours came out. I also think Teresa is extremely insecure, and feels threatened by Catelyn and Tyler. Particularly Catelynn.

[@Allinmyworld]

@@rebeccamace1534 hit the nail on the head

[@BekahMarie11]

As an adoptive child, I want nothing to do with my birth mother. My parents are my parents. End of story. My life is complete. ❤

[@lilc5353]

If you don't mind me asking why?

[@BekahMarie11]

@@lilc5353 because she was a alcoholic mess. I had no interested in reaching out and she never reached out to me. My adoption was open but she never reached out.

[@bluedream7458]

@@BekahMarie11that’s so sad and I can relate..it’s a rejection you just always try to get over🙂‍↕️but Sounds like you already rose above her🙏🏼 blessings to you

[@cc-so4hy]

I don't blame the adaptive parents. I wouldn't let my kids around people on bad websites. People have a choice and when it's bad I pay the consequences.

[@mariyaa111]

They are my favorite couple on reality tv. They have both been through SO many things that have broke n other people. They are amazing parents, Nova is one of the most emotionally intelligent children I have ever seen. I hope that they can find peace with their decisions one day and have a good relationship with Brandon, Theresa & Carly !

[@ldv02]

Once you sign the papers she’s not really yours anymore. Also we don’t know what’s happening. Maybe Carly doesn’t want to see you guys and her mom is saying no so that she doesn’t put Carly on the spot. They need to hash this privately, not blasting the internet with it. Carly will grow up and see this

[@summerhill93]

Tyler said the choice was not Carly’s

[@ldv02]

@@summerhill93 many times I have thrown myself under the bus not to put my kids in an uncomfortable position, that’s what parents do. Regardless this needs to be private, not for the whole world to see for Carly’s sake.

[@summerhill93]

@ldv02 i agree the public aspect of this makes it challenging for all. However as time goes on, adoption issues are being highlighted in a way I hope brings awareness and hopefully greater legal protections for adoptees and birth parents

[@christinagonzales6441]

I also think they lied to the young parents

[@gini8538]

It’s really crappy they agreed on an open adoption and get to go back on that. They just agreed to whatever to get their baby and then slowly stopped doing their part.

[@anom3897]

I think its just a ploy so there will be more children to adopt. I heard adoption is big business.

[@emcooper3031]

Happens all the time. Many adoptive parents will promise the moon until they are legally the baby's parents, then refuse to acknowledge their child actually has biological relatives, and do everything they can to thwart any curiosity or longing in the child to know the truth. Religious types are often especially good at shaming and guilting their adopted children into silence. This is a great way to make sure their adopted children stop trusting them, search for their roots, and often try to connect with bio family members.

[@bluedream7458]

There’s three sides to every story (B&Ts , T&Cs, and the TRUTH) and I’m beginning to think something happened and it’s not being disclosed YET..I also think in 3 years (that’s if Carly is 15 now?) when Carly is 18 whole LOTTTA stuff is going to come out…We are not getting the entire story sonething B&T did not like happened..But I feel awful for all involved esp C&Ts daughters as they KNOW Carly is their sister NOW and I think it was way too early for these girls to even know that, just my opinion..

[@jilliansherrard2152]

I feel like if I was an adoptive parent….if the family was decent as I think Caitlin and Tyler are….no way I could hold my child from her biological family nor would I want to….Brandon and Theresa have full control and I hope they don’t deny their daughter her sisters

[@britt19XX]

Since both couples (Tyler/Caitlyn & Brandon/Teresa) agreed and signed LEGAL papers for an OPEN ADOPTION, Brandon and Teresa should honor their commitment they made to Carly, Tyler, and Caitlyn. They promised to keep it open and allow access to Carly. It is really messed up that they havent.

[@tytypartridge3135]

Waste of time unless the kid is brainwashed or had been abused by the bio parents she will seek them out once she is 18 adoptive parents are just setting themselves up for failure and a tense relationship with their daughter in the future. Short sighted decisions with long term consequences.

[@JayG88]

I can't help but to feel Tyler and Caitlyn were ripped! They were children...adoption is not easy emotionally and obviously traumatizing. It's unfortunate they didn't have the support they needed to keep that little girl😢

[@pasqualinamichelaconsiglio9391]

As far as I understand the situation, the adoption was an open adoption whether that be verbally or in writing (open adoption agreement) and if one party does not abide by the agreements made, the other party can use the services of a lawyer to go to court. The court then may make the agreement legally binding. For it sounds to me it was verbally. Sorry, but from the start it all should have been done in writing/documents instead of meeting the adoptive parents and expressing each others wishes and agreeing and disagreeing and leaving it at that. You are not getting the child unless you agree and abide to those terms. Sign here. And have a clause in the agreement to where if one party abuses those terms these are the consequences of. A written agreement should also be provided by the adoption agency.

[@annmcdonald7713]

Open adoption is never legally binding in court. The adoptive parents have the last say. Even if it was in writings

[@femdivinemind7777]

They didn't even abide by the written terms

[@sal3414]

They gave carly up!! They have no rights. Feel for Carlys parents.

[@summerhill93]

Feel for Carly!! Imagine losing your ENTIRE family the moment you were born! An adult could be done in by such grief. Every child wants to know their parents, siblings, and kin. All caretakers of children have a sacred obligation to put their child(ren) first. This is not happening here.

[@lilebb1657]

Of course they don't want their daughter around that Only Fans crap.

[@ericdwhitmorec]

And you know they have an only fans how?

[@lilebb1657]

@@ericdwhitmorec They have talked about it on the show. Duh! 🙄 So many opportunities and they chose Only Fans. 😬 After four daughters.

[@cc-so4hy]

I agree. I'd do everything to keep my kids from people on disgusting websites

[@yup_im_tiff]

They stop them from seeing her years ago. It had nothing to do with only fans

[@courtneycoley8487]

​@@lilebb1657agree

[@jenevairedreska8374]

B&T will be very sorry if Carly breaks ties with them for doing this. She can move in with her bio parents in 3 years if she wants to and never speak to B&T again. I'm not saying that anyone involved wants that, but Carly will do what she wants in a few short years, and B&T will be the ones to have no say!

[@laceybanter5937]

I remember the adoption counselor trying to get them to send their daughter birthday cards, letters and pictures and they just didn't do it.

[@femdivinemind7777]

I literally just watched an early clip and they did they spoke about how Carly loved the letter

[@laceybanter5937]

@@femdivinemind7777 yes. One letter after none for a year. And the had to be prodded to write it.

[@femdivinemind7777]

@@laceybanter5937 erm no....they were in contact and.writing letters from the begging watch the episodes...🥴

[@britt19XX]

I think when Carly goes back and watches some of the interviews and tv show (which i fully suspect she will), i think brandon and Teresa are gonna be in for a rude awakening bc carly will see ty and cait tried consistently & they blocked it. I think carly will eventually end up closer to them and have a real, consistent parent/child relationship and this will all blow up in brandon and Teresas faces.

[@jilliansherrard2152]

She was 15 in May….in 3 years or more we ll see what Carly really thinks and feels…..maybe

[@bumbles910]

I feel bad for the kids parents. They have no obligation to share custody of their child.

[@ashleymarie5093]

They did originally agree to an open adoption. Which means visitation on whatever was agreed upon. Sure they can say no being the legal guardians and maybe Carly is at an age where she doesn't even want to see them right now which is fine too. but it's still going against what the original agreement was.

[@KLC_xoxo]

@@ashleymarie5093facts

[@notsureiL]

​@@ashleymarie5093They never agreed on pimping out Carly for the show. The biological parents wanted the visits to be showed on MTV.

[@emiilyjaane7]

​@@notsureiLDid you not watch 16& Pregnant??? Catelynn & Tyler did everything Carly's adoptive parents wanted, They didn't even want her shown on the camera along with The adoptive parents. They all agreed to an open adoption, Which means they still have rights to see Carly, MTV has followed Carly's journey since birth, but blur her face out to respect them all, so ofc she would still be on the show when she agrees to it. They all left the choice up to Carly when she was old enough to say yes or no. They have never forced her to do anything.

[@Zahra-wd3md]

​@@notsureiLThey were pimping Carly themselves doing magazine interviews with pictures. Plus I have seen them at least 8 times in front of camera's on Teen Mom. Nobody will recognize Carly because she hasn't been filmed for years and her face changes from baby to teenager. But EVERYBODY will recognize Brandon and Theresa. So if they want not to ve recognized, they both would have to get plastic surgery. They were fine with it in the beginning when they wanted Carly. When the backlash came, all of a sudden they want privacy. Such hypocrites. It's only an excuse to keep her away.

[@ccurrie9672]

Its not just the bio parents but the people around them. Maybe the adoptive parents and Carly don't want to be all over TV or the wider family. When she is 18 she may visit or she may not.

[@catalina9844]

As an adoptee we never know the situation no matter what the adults say. This decision may be Carly’s

[@Prettyyjeje]

Carly adoptive parents are wild. The only thing that’s gone do is have her ruuunnn to her birth parents. Ik soo many ppl who were adopted. They still want to know they birth parents

[@Victoria-x4r9m]

I feel sad for them

[@jessrichard1643]

Maybe Carly doesn't want to see them?

[@SASSY13169]

Who knows what trauma Carly has to deal with after their visits. Brandon and Theresa probably have to pick up the pieces and help her deal with whatever she goes through after each visit. I'm sure it would be a different case if her biological parents weren't on TV. Imagine being a teenager, going to school, and having your life sprawled out for everyone.

[@joankgillette]

So disrespectful to call her by her maiden name and not her married name

[@annsorensen1606]

They are trying to protect her privacy. Imagine at 15…. Everyone knows who you are because your birth parents are putting it out there. Her friends are all on line and her life has become public

[@ZxProudMamaxZ]

But they refused them to see her for 5 years now not just at the age of 15. Brandon and Teresa better watch out because Carly my resent them for not allowing her to know her birth parents.

[@ekg891]

Carly's face is never shown on the show so her privacy was already protected. They'd never really show the visits either when they did happen

[@femdivinemind7777]

That's her reality though. It's all the kids realities from the show

[@lilc5353]

​@@ZxProudMamaxZand her sisters

[@lilc5353]

​@@femdivinemind7777exactly 💯

[@lindagriffin8340]

I'm sorry you had to put Carli up for adoption, but I think you both done the right thing. It's so hard taking care of a baby when your a teen. I know I had my first child at 17 in 1979. I was fortunate to be able to keep my son because I had my husband and family to help me. It's true what they say " It takes a village to raise a child." Her adopted Parents are her Parents now and they have been for a long time. They decide what Carli can do and not do until she's 18.

[@user-bx4ti6ig3i]

No. The adoptive parents don't owe them nothing except a thank you and move along. They've also kind of brainwashed their son too.

[@liindaboniita]

That’s rough, no one should judge them for the decision they made when they themselves were still kids. Wish them the best!

[@Financiallyfreeauthor]

It was supposed to be an open adoption. There’s no way to enforce that sadly.

[@Aluapay]

Maybe to much press. It is very hard to put a child up for adoption, my sister did it and it was closed, very hard but best for her child. They met up 17 years later. I think it was wrong for Catelyn to throw shade at the adoptive parents. I understand why but to make it public can interfere with decisions they want in their favor. To be in the public eye is hard enough, but Catelyn and Tyler whom I so adore need to walk cautiously in this situation, and need our love and prayers.

[@GigglingHamster]

They definitely chose the wrong family for Carley I think Carley is going to leave at 18 and go live with Cate and Tyler

[@lisafreudeman-gq7df]

Tyler & Catelynn are mad because the adoption parents don’t want to have nothing to do with them!

[@stephaniebach__12-24]

My heart breaks for Caitlin and Tyler but they should have listened to their parents... They absolutely regret giving their daughter up for adoption but they are too stubborn to admit this

[@makoa143ify]

Must be a huge regret 😢

[@MissMartinez_89]

I think it’s crazy that they gave their 1st born up for adoption then proceeded to have 3 more kids. I know it was later in their life but still…If I was their daughter I wouldn’t want a relationship with them. 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@alishashay17]

I read that they weren’t very responsible & they was teenagers

[@nursehoney24]

They were literally kids themselves & both of them lived in very abusive dysfunctional families. Some of the things shown when teen mom was brand new, when Kate & Tyler were growing up & pregnant, was so depressing & sad, sometimes hard to watch how they really lived. So in my opinion, they done the absolute best thing for Carly. Of course their lives are very different now, they have money, they’re older, wiser, & on their own…….so why wouldn’t they have & create their own family now?? But I get it tho, everyone has their own opinion about it 🤷‍♀️

[@courtneyw6224]

That would bw dumb of you. If you watched the show you would realize Carly would've been raised in a not healthy environment. By giving hwr uo they made her life better.

[@justmythoughts2962]

​@@courtneyw6224the 3 they HAVE aren't EITHER.

[@Kateeee83]

@MrsMartinez_ I'm curious to know if you were adopted ?

[@ablair33556]

Tyler is always coming to his wife defense

[@RapunzelMulan5967]

They aren't even her parents if she wants anything to do with you she'll do it when she's 18 if not well you reaped what u sewed for now quit nagging

[@stephaniedavis4597]

You gave up your rights so you can't even comment... that's not how it works. You don't have the benefits without the work. I think you have some nerve to call them out online. Learn how to deal with your choices maybe...

[@courtneyw6224]

Open adoption fool. It was agreed to allow them to see their birth daughter throughout the years, but now they are saying no. We don't know the entire reason.. they have the right, but when someone gives you their kid and makes a deal that you can have her if they can still see her then be respectful of that deal. Unless the kid has said no

[@Kateeee83]

They were kids and under the assumption and belief that they would be allowed in her life and have visits etc it was said by the parents on Tv

[@yup_im_tiff]

Why adopt a child with the promises of allowing the child to visit the birth family every year, talk to them every 6 months and agree to sending pictures every 6 months and every birthday if you have zero plans of withholding that promise to the ppl that made you parents in the first place. There are millions of children in foster care they crossed state lines to buy a baby from a 15 year old girl

[@emcooper3031]

​@@yup_im_tiffyep, white newborns have always been in such high demand it's hard for baby-buying agencies to provide enough stock.

[@nitsakalkinis4135]

If Carly wanted a relationship she would have pursued one!!

[@lovelythomas8837]

Should have thought about that before they put her up for adoption and then decided to have more children. I don’t blame the adoptive parents. That is their child now to raise the way that they want now when the girl turns 18 she can decide if she wants to see her parents, but as of now you gave her to me to protect and guide her so she is mines And that’s just the way it is

[@summerhill93]

Child as property. Fun stuff. Can suck to be a kid. Verbal agreements are made in heaven as well as on earth.

[@heathertapper-gq6pk]

And tyler wont even send letters cause he dont know what to say yet explodes when hes asked to follow basic requests

[@summerhill93]

Because the adopters are treating Carly as a possession not a feeling human being with inalienable rights and the breached their verbal agreement with C&T

[@karentzv3061]

Keep it up and Carly will banish you both for life. YOU GAVE HER UP. Its Carlys choice. Grow up and deal with it.

[@lilc5353]

Brandon and Theresa just need to communicate what's going on.

[@karentzv3061]

No they really dont owe them anything. ​@@lilc5353

[@ctryclb]

I was adopted. I never saw my biological parents. I don’t know as a child how I could handle that. I’ve known as long as I can remember that I was adopted. Tuff decisions to make. She is also a teenager now. I would think this show would be embarrassing in her mind right now.

[@Mama_mam7]

When she is 18 she can decide for herself. And have that relationship if she decides too

[@LEDANCETHERAPY]

I went back and watched the original episode and I have to say I didn’t know that Teresa was like a teacher within the church and I have to say it’s very disheartening that someone who is so religious and praise to God and is such a believer in Jesus made a commitment and an agreement with these people that they would get to see their child and be part of their child’s life at least once a year with photos and whatever And yet they chose to forgo the contract. It really shows a lack of character. Sure they don’t have to because they’re the adoptive parents, but that was what they told them as young children and in that episode it was made very apparent to Teresa and Brandon that they had very troubled childhood and Kaitlyn talked about you know how she wanted her to have the stable home that she never had and she was like moving around like 13 times it’s disgraceful that they’ve chosen to completely cut them off like that. It is an absolute disgrace. I’m sorryand knowing that she’s this woman that is so religious and she’s a teacher in a religious school but yet she can’t even have the character to uphold her agreement that she made to two young kids. They were so young that is just pathetic.

[@Summer_luvr]

Catelynn constantly biting her nails and chewing them like a snack lol is so gross. I have to fast forward on the show when I see her.

[@kristinashiapanis8668]

The fact that they only gave her up for adoption because they were able to have an open adoption makes it so much worse on Teresa and Brandon. They should be ashamed of themselves. How they can slap them in the face like that is so wrong. There should be some sort of law that protects the biological parents from adoptive parents turning the tables like that for absolutely no reason.

[@jgirl982]

Maybe carly doesn’t want to see them and the parents are just covering for them?

[@CristinaOrtega-k2g]

Carly needs to watch 16 and pregnant and she will understand why they choosed to take that hard decisions. Butch and and her mom were wild as heck in 1 yeat cate move like 12 times in her middle or highschool year that is sad . And they choosed adoption to keep her save away from all the abuse .

[@saltandpepperandmint]

The adoptive parents are selfish and it will kick the in the butt later

[@lindah7656]

All of you talking like you know Carly’s life and the way her protective parents (not controlling) are keeping her from Cait & Tyler. Obviously they want to keep Carly’s life as normal and private as they can . That includes keeping her story off the show. Even tho they don’t show Carly’s face when they visited with her ,they show the process of the trip ,unloading at the park, the goodbyes and them being emotional. Carly has a whole school and I’m sure some watch the show , don’t you think that has some kind of effect on her? I don’t blame her adoptive parents for the way they raised her. If Cait & Tyler truly wanted a visit they don’t have to do all that. Sure talk about you’re going to visit but the cameras do not need to be any where near it. Totally private even if they don’t mention it before it happens, visit then mention it if you want. When she turns 18 then it’s her choice but you never know she still might want to stay away from the cameras. So stop blaming and putting criticism on her parents about how they handled raising her.

[@CherokeeBird]

They knew there was a TV show and agreed to yearly visits anyways. And they stopped answering calls and texts with no explanation. That's not right.

[@lindah7656]

@@CherokeeBird Maybe they agreed but it probably wasn’t in a contract, maybe they didn’t like the attention Carly was getting from the public surrounding the visitations. It seemed like a big production when ever they had them. They have Carly’s best interest in mind . You certainly can’t blame them for wanting to protect their child.

[@kaylinwhite6584]

Numerous emotions

[@gmcontractorsllc7592]

These two have to stop talking bad about Carly’s parents. No matter how much they bash them, Carly will hear this & despise them. Brandon & Theresa are the only parents she knows. These two made a decision to give her up for adoption so she could have a better life.

[@malcriadamedina5358]

Teresa and Brandon really lucked out getting a new born non addicted yt baby for practically free

[@Yes0hyes1921]

STOP , What an opinion.

[@malcriadamedina5358]

@@Yes0hyes1921 it is unfortunately how the modern adoption system works, there's an over saturation of unwanted babies: see non yt babies whereas adopting parents who tend to be yt fight over the few yt babies up for adoption. It's the truth, I'm just the messenger. And yes they can cost a lot of money because they are more sought after, it costs less to adopt a non yt baby. Yep an unfortunate truth.

[@Zahra-wd3md]

​@@malcriadamedina5358What's a yt baby?

[@summerhill93]

@@Yes0hyes1921 He's correct in pointing out the business side of adoption. Babies as commodities. Not exactly a pro-family stance for adopted people.

[@Ana20arA]

So weird, put the child up for adoption but want visitation rights?

[@happyjoy338]

Not visitation RIGHTS, just a visit.

[@lawrenceoxford]

The adoptive parents agreed that they could have visitation with the child when they gave her up for adoption.If they had said no,they would have probably looked at different people who would have agreed with visitation of the child.

[@happyjoy338]

@@lawrenceoxford MUTUALLY AGREED UPON VISITATION.

[@Ana20arA]

@@happyjoy338 that’s still weird.

[@Ana20arA]

@@lawrenceoxford well that changes perspective if they said that from the beginning pre adoption arrangement.

[@TheRachag]

Brandon and Teresa are great parents to Carly but they show how painful Adoption is. Not sure but they show the difficulties of making that decision.

[@twilightrosa-u3v]

i feel like brandon and treesa are going to play carly against her birth parents i think the only reason they adopted carley was for money

[@justmythoughts2962]

Because it didn't cost them a small fortune to adopt her ? What MONEY? NO ONE ever predicted these two would parlay their teen pregnancy into a career. So money ? Those two came from NOTHING. THEY adopted her because of money is the wildest comment I have EVER read.

[@malcriadamedina5358]

@@justmythoughts2962they got her for free

[@951treeg]

They should get over it, they gave her up for adoption.