Tyler the Creator - Goblin Album Review [Part 1 of 2] | DEHH

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@DuncanUdaho67
@DuncanUdaho67 8 жыл бұрын
The Feefo vs everyone else reviews are the best.
@TheOneKeyToLife
@TheOneKeyToLife 8 жыл бұрын
When Ken was yelling and getting rallied up he looked like a Civil Rights Activist lmao
@lols6726
@lols6726 7 жыл бұрын
The Key To Life dawgg noo😂💀💀
@todortodorov1379
@todortodorov1379 5 жыл бұрын
I laughed so hard on this :D :D
@veksone77
@veksone77 11 жыл бұрын
Feefo: "Tyler is a musical genius!!" "Yeah the middle of the album is lacking" LMAO!!
@azure5644
@azure5644 5 жыл бұрын
veksone77 5 years later tho....
@mstefanidis1841
@mstefanidis1841 4 жыл бұрын
He was right
@duno6552
@duno6552 3 ай бұрын
2:42 I can’t believe how incredibly well this comment from Feefo aged. Tyler right now is seen one of this generations greatest artists. Tyler IS a musical genius.
@kbscheme
@kbscheme 5 жыл бұрын
this review got so heated💀 i thought someone was gonna swing
@itslandon4568
@itslandon4568 4 жыл бұрын
kalaba kibwe just watch the lil b I’m gay album review,that was way worse lol
@kbscheme
@kbscheme 4 жыл бұрын
It’s Landon456 oh yea i remember that😂😂
@Krazy_attitude15
@Krazy_attitude15 2 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@accidentaltroll129
@accidentaltroll129 9 жыл бұрын
lol ceo kinge up in this
@BiggzThaReaper
@BiggzThaReaper 10 жыл бұрын
Damn, it's been three years. This was the first review I seen from them.
@jamaalbaker7915
@jamaalbaker7915 10 жыл бұрын
Same with me.this and Tha Carter IV video were my first
@kir_p00kie95
@kir_p00kie95 7 жыл бұрын
these black and white scenes be killing me
@2017Michael
@2017Michael 11 жыл бұрын
This album is made for depressed teens so if you don't get it you are an alright person
@Mambo2able1
@Mambo2able1 10 жыл бұрын
I'm a very depressed teen and I don't like it.
@fuccboipurpas1279
@fuccboipurpas1279 10 жыл бұрын
Mambo2able1 huehueheuheuheuheue
@Yesandno2024
@Yesandno2024 7 жыл бұрын
HEΔRT you
@dustycomputer1806
@dustycomputer1806 7 жыл бұрын
i'm a depressed teen and this shits trash
@nursemain3174
@nursemain3174 7 жыл бұрын
My favorites in order are: Wolf Cherry bomb Bastard
@moecash8450
@moecash8450 Жыл бұрын
My fav DEHH review I rewatch it every once in a while
@TheOneKeyToLife
@TheOneKeyToLife 5 жыл бұрын
I wish DEHH had the audience now but had these videos back then when they were legit fightin
@SPACEDOUT19
@SPACEDOUT19 3 жыл бұрын
their 2011-13 videos were my favorite
@theebonymaw
@theebonymaw Жыл бұрын
these reviews are like the And1 mixtape version of DEHH 😅
@andyspendlove1019
@andyspendlove1019 7 жыл бұрын
Ah, I remember these days, where it was a literal conversation--looks like it was filmed like on Kinge's lunch break outside his office lmao--that usually devolved into yelling. I also remember when they decided on the current format of giving everyone their turn to talk, that avoided some of the yelling. Good times.
@BinaryStarofShaolin
@BinaryStarofShaolin 5 жыл бұрын
When do you think they started taking turns, what time about?
@213byron
@213byron 5 жыл бұрын
BinaryStarofShaolin 2013/2014
@manuelportugal5179
@manuelportugal5179 9 жыл бұрын
Modest was about to go ham on reverend Kinge
@joshdixon655
@joshdixon655 6 жыл бұрын
Given how much time has passed, it's safe to say I agree most with Ken and Myke on this. Tyler, at this point, was still trying to find out what would work to make a fantastic album front to back and he had a lot of missteps on this album. However, Flower Boy gives complete confirmation on to Feefo's musical genius point. Love to check back on the old reviews sometimes to see how well each of their arguments have aged.
@Rockachocalate
@Rockachocalate 10 жыл бұрын
This shit is still funny. Best DEHH Album Review Ever.
@brunohenriqueazevedoborges5490
@brunohenriqueazevedoborges5490 9 жыл бұрын
Lil B I'm gay is better.
@leviturner4565
@leviturner4565 4 жыл бұрын
This Review was Directed by the Safdie Brothers
@questionable-ethics
@questionable-ethics 4 жыл бұрын
Respect DEHH for the 10 years! 23 now and watched since I was 16 must have been the Tyler the creator or early Kendrick reviews that got me hooked. Only KZbin guys I have stayed subscribed to for this long. Lots of good memories... Myke chill son LiL B really is gay 😂 oh and btw, where Marjorie at bruh? 😂 Keep it up guys 🤙🏼
@notatlanta3509
@notatlanta3509 5 жыл бұрын
These guys have grown a lot since this review...they have all came a long way and I am glad we all got to witness the growth
@lafairweath3
@lafairweath3 9 ай бұрын
@2:40 turns out Feefo was right
@JonathanCoates89
@JonathanCoates89 11 жыл бұрын
these dudes used to snap on these reviews
@AaronDouglas
@AaronDouglas 9 жыл бұрын
Watch Feefo's face at 10:13 LOL
@khalfanigrant7199
@khalfanigrant7199 8 жыл бұрын
Transylvania slaps so hard it's ridiculous
@valkyr3403
@valkyr3403 8 жыл бұрын
one of left brains best production
@blurrygorillaz973
@blurrygorillaz973 4 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU YOU AMAZING MAN OF MUSIC
@125henni
@125henni 3 жыл бұрын
On God it does
@robertkirby5955
@robertkirby5955 8 жыл бұрын
When Ken said the phrase "a tale of 2 halves" at around 3:30, I immediately thought of the "Blu-NoYork" review. LOL!
@scottmurphy578
@scottmurphy578 8 жыл бұрын
Omg I thought the exact same thing
@robertkirby5955
@robertkirby5955 8 жыл бұрын
Scott Murphy LOL
@elliottblaine
@elliottblaine 5 жыл бұрын
Lmfao Feefo about 6 years too early 😭
@TheOneKeyToLife
@TheOneKeyToLife 2 жыл бұрын
11:35 this video was so intense that they didn’t have an intermission or a cut scene. They literally had to substitute Beezy out with Rod mid argument 😭😭🤣🤣
@officialsonic1
@officialsonic1 2 жыл бұрын
they came a long way from this
@tradez401
@tradez401 8 жыл бұрын
Ahhhh my 1st DEHH video i watched that made me a lifetime subscriber
@dilthomas8035
@dilthomas8035 8 жыл бұрын
every project tyler puts out has been on point
@mongolhorde
@mongolhorde 8 жыл бұрын
no
@dilthomas8035
@dilthomas8035 8 жыл бұрын
MongolHorde69 Name one project that wasn't on point and didn't hold up.
@mongolhorde
@mongolhorde 8 жыл бұрын
dylan thomas Goblin, Cherry Bomb. In fact Tyler's only album that was REALLY good was Bastard. Also, nice job liking your own comment bro
@dilthomas8035
@dilthomas8035 8 жыл бұрын
MongolHorde69 I just checked and I didn't like my own comment why are you making shit up. Goblin had great hits maybe it wasn't consistent, but when it really was time to have a banger he was there. Cherry Bomb was just amazing I have to say at least a 8/10. How can you say it wasn't that good when it had these songs. DEATHCAMP The Brown Stains of Darkeese Latifah BUFFALO SMUCKERS These songs could carry the album just on their own. The beats, lyrics, and flow are near perfect on these songs. The rest of the album while as great still is pretty good. He still stays pretty true to tyler, but gives a lot of variety and grows quite a bit from his previous work.
@Yuuuuhhhhhhhh
@Yuuuuhhhhhhhh 6 жыл бұрын
Cherry Bomb
@erronking7783
@erronking7783 9 жыл бұрын
"Tyler you do horrocore bruh"-2011 "WOLF"-2013 faaaaaaar from horrocore "Cherry Bomb"-2015 expiremantal rocky soul hiphop album....
@MechaHood
@MechaHood 5 жыл бұрын
Here after Igor,fukkkk rod had the vision
@anijeepa
@anijeepa 2 жыл бұрын
Feefo was the one that predicted Tyler as a musical genius.
@maxsmart9116
@maxsmart9116 Жыл бұрын
That's a good point.
@WhiteSleevedStu
@WhiteSleevedStu 10 жыл бұрын
I guess the sheer fact that this review was a 30 minute 2 part-er, meant that Tyler achieved exactly what he wanted, if not more, regardless of what the review said.
@frostxlegendzx5798
@frostxlegendzx5798 10 жыл бұрын
Tyler has achieved so much you have like 5-4 ppl arguing about his music that's dope
@kazamere
@kazamere Жыл бұрын
yall fvck wit flower boy
@Cleanframe
@Cleanframe 5 жыл бұрын
Damn seeing Ken skinny is throwing me off, well not as fat as he is now
@WelcomeToThe92503
@WelcomeToThe92503 13 жыл бұрын
I hate to side with artist, but honestly all of the negative reviews I've seen of GOBLIN on KZbin are typically from ''jaded'' older ''golden era'' nerds like dude in the SUIT. Me being one of them. But I take TYLER and OFWGKTA for what it is. A group of young, rebellious erratic kids who are expressing themselves. I think people set their expectation way too high for this man. He's a kid with no major backing him having fun. This music reflects it. plain and simple. I think it's good
@officialsonic1
@officialsonic1 2 жыл бұрын
they need to revisit this review my goodness
@ADAJ3KINGANGEL
@ADAJ3KINGANGEL 10 жыл бұрын
What if these dudes really came to blows over a Tyler the Creator album? Lmao
@kweefsweat5628
@kweefsweat5628 4 жыл бұрын
This was my first video I watched from you guys I was 19 I’m 29 now time really flies.
@pazhilayapypbIrka
@pazhilayapypbIrka 10 жыл бұрын
I like this album, production was kinda cheap but i think it's fit's well the atmosphere of the album, lyricaly it was not bad but not really great either, i think it was decent album.
@BoooRadley
@BoooRadley Жыл бұрын
I was in HS when this came out and looking back, maybe it was just shock value. The eating of the roach and other music video with the blood. Cuz its hard to go back to listen the music lmao
@latinomusic954
@latinomusic954 12 жыл бұрын
transylvania was not meant to be lyrical. u can hear it by the production it was meant to be a breakdown of a topic of transyvania the vampire shit.
@smesi
@smesi 5 жыл бұрын
here after the igor album just to see feefo call tyler a musical genius again
@malnourishedafrican3423
@malnourishedafrican3423 6 жыл бұрын
i usually dont agree with c-town (i.e. live.love.asap.) but i have to agree with them on this one. Bastard was a great mixtape where tyler made music for tyler and nobody else, now that goblin came out, i feel like he is trying to hard to explain his music and impress media outlets like the rolling stone or pitch fork. bastard was great, goblin was not.
@213byron
@213byron 5 жыл бұрын
2:41 😂😂Feefo was right
@jvgcgjkckhckchckckhhc
@jvgcgjkckhckchckckhhc 7 жыл бұрын
I always come back to this and the lil b review the energy is always mad when they were outside
@enigmasadrenaline6
@enigmasadrenaline6 12 жыл бұрын
in my opinion, the best part of the album was the transition from nightmare to tron cat, i loved both songs and the fact that they both told a story in itself was amazing. tyler is very smart indeed.
@slunkzilla
@slunkzilla 12 жыл бұрын
Feefo calming everybody down for last 20 seconds was absolutely fucking hillarious XD
@slunkzilla
@slunkzilla 3 жыл бұрын
i love having old comments on old DEHH videos, coming back to them I see my OG stamp here, can't believe been rocking with these guys for almost ten years now... the ONLY online entertainers that I've followed for so long. Formed so many hip hop opinions based on their videos, it was hard to get into it me being from and still living in poland, of course times have changed now but ten years ago this was the place to be if you wanted that real talk about the music that's being released. Thank you guys so much.
@8Wylie
@8Wylie 12 жыл бұрын
Some songs are horror-core, others like Inglorious, Parade and Analog are not. People usually remember the horror-core songs because they get their attention and so they label Tyler as horror-core. I personally do not think he is a horror-core artist.
@GeorgeOscarBluthII
@GeorgeOscarBluthII 12 жыл бұрын
I liked the OF collective for like a week then I grew up.
@mykectown
@mykectown 13 жыл бұрын
@AsiagoCaesar Right on! Nice meeting another Atmosphere fan! Thanks for the support!
@mykectown
@mykectown 13 жыл бұрын
@tejera02 Yo, this is Myke. I'm the one that replied to you about Cannibal Ox. Nice to meet another fan! As far as Battle Of The Planets, though I wasn't really impressed by that track at all. I mean as far as diss tracks go I thought it was a little soft. That's not really Vast's lane, though, right? He came at Esoteric kinda nice, but any other time...it always sounds forced to me. Oh and thanks for watching the show! Nice to get comments from real hip hop heads.
@StyleZ107
@StyleZ107 13 жыл бұрын
I like this kind of review. Good conversation instead of someone bitching about what they don't like. Seem like true hip hop fans too. I subbed.
@mykectown
@mykectown 13 жыл бұрын
@bigcharleslee54 The point that you obviously missed is that for anyone to say an album is good they have to have a frame of reference. If someone grows up in Alabama where all they hear is Paul Wall & Bubba Sparks, they're gonna think that's the pinnacle of hip hop. So if they hear something else, they're gonna compare it to those artists.
@freshestclips
@freshestclips 10 жыл бұрын
Nightmare is the best song on the album
@hobo1996
@hobo1996 12 жыл бұрын
i respect everyones opinion but me personally i think that goblin was a phenomonal album i never get tired of listening to it tylers lyrical ability is so good that you have to sit down and think about it for a while to get it he uses metaphors and similies that are traditionally in hip hop but also has the genius to make a song thats entirely a paradox on itself (yonkers) he is one of my favorite emcees and imo one of if not the greatest emcee to come out of my generation
@Burnshen
@Burnshen 11 жыл бұрын
I don't think Kinge realizes that Bastard and Goblin are supposed to be the same concept....
@seanlocker1161
@seanlocker1161 4 жыл бұрын
This is a classic review
@SPACEDOUT19
@SPACEDOUT19 5 жыл бұрын
8 fucking years already passed since this vid...wow...
@Altuawn1
@Altuawn1 13 жыл бұрын
I havent heard any of this guys music, but I'm about to download a mixtape if he has one, so that I can choose my side. You all were getting heated though!
@Billybiscuits13
@Billybiscuits13 12 жыл бұрын
His XL deal was only for Goblin. He's signed to Sony/Red now.
@mykectown
@mykectown 13 жыл бұрын
@MrMusicdot My man Saigon hit it on the head. We listen because we like hip hop and Tyler is a dope artist. Tell me why the hell you actually needed someone to explain that to you.
@lafairweath3
@lafairweath3 9 жыл бұрын
For once I agreed with Feefo and MoDEST here
@WoojBanks2
@WoojBanks2 12 жыл бұрын
HAIL MARY MALLON IF U HEARD OF IT THEN REVIEW IT!
@iGirlWood
@iGirlWood 12 жыл бұрын
Bastard and Goblin are about Tyler going to Dr. TC to battle off his inner personalities. Over half of what he said on both albums were his personalities talking. If you listen to the outro to Goblin you would realize that the storyline within Bastard and Goblin makes them two of the best albums of all time.
@mykectown
@mykectown 13 жыл бұрын
@tejera02 And PLEASE tell me you're not trying to say that Tyler is better than Cannibal Ox! Cold Vein was one of the most original innovative albums to come out in the past 10 years. El-P's production was light years ahead of anything coming out and Vast and Vordul were spittin like veterans. And which version of the Weathermen we talking? Now or the original crew? Because there's no way anyone's saying OF could touch El, Cage, Copy, Jakki, Breeze, Mu, or Yak in 02-04.
@kennithbinge
@kennithbinge 13 жыл бұрын
@tejera02 My man. Glad to see some heads on here. Thanks for rolling with us! Straight up. And love the test! Even though it wasn't for me. Haha.
@edwardmorris3610
@edwardmorris3610 11 жыл бұрын
I'm not really into rap,i mostly like rock and metal,but watching these arguments on music is just so interesting an entertaining.Keep up the great work.
@JDeissreVIEWSFROMHELL
@JDeissreVIEWSFROMHELL 10 жыл бұрын
As evidenced by your Pink Floyd Atom Heart Mother profile pic.
@edwardmorris3610
@edwardmorris3610 10 жыл бұрын
Yup
@Drummerboyy26
@Drummerboyy26 12 жыл бұрын
Radicals was tight
@grunntalll
@grunntalll 13 жыл бұрын
This is the first time i'm watching a review from these guys and i gotta say Damn, it's fucking brilliant what they do, talking in a group and not with a script or some shit . They are really discussing it, i love that shit
@latinomusic954
@latinomusic954 12 жыл бұрын
i love DEHH but one problem that i always have with you guys is this lyrical staple you put on everything. making every track that is defined as not lyrical to be trash.
@UnDEADBishop138
@UnDEADBishop138 13 жыл бұрын
Most of the songs on Goblin were recorded at the same time as the songs on Bastard. You say it's the same thing... BECAUSE IT IS! It's not like he was like "I'll re-do this concept."
@ModestMediaTube
@ModestMediaTube 13 жыл бұрын
@soundsofthecar I like this kid!...keep doing your thing man. I just watched a couple of your reviews and you have a very honest perspective. Thanks for being apart of the culture.
@mykectown
@mykectown 13 жыл бұрын
@soundsofthecar It's his debut (full) album. Bastard was a mixtape. But, cool. Thanks!
@mykectown
@mykectown 13 жыл бұрын
@03wirey Judging by your comment I don't think we're the ones with Tyler's member shoved down our throat. Hit us back when you're able to breathe without coughing up Tyler's DNA.
@fabs680
@fabs680 13 жыл бұрын
Goblin is to me a very strong 6/10. The beats are very varied in quality, sometimes the production works and sometimes it don't. He made a half-assed attempt to conceptualize it and it didn't work, this is not a mixtape it's an album. I still love Tyler and he really delivers rap-wise. This album would earn a lot from just cutting down on tracks. I love Tyler's melancholy/insane lyrics and I would have loved it if he was more consistent (I'm a fucking sucker for concept albums).
@A92M94
@A92M94 11 жыл бұрын
I love every album by tyler, the creator
@A92M94
@A92M94 11 жыл бұрын
nope
@Thebrownelementsk8er
@Thebrownelementsk8er 12 жыл бұрын
one of the best reviews
@vice2versa
@vice2versa 13 жыл бұрын
@elijah800 its the MOOD tyler puts in his lyrics that make him different. its the beats, tylers IDGAF lyrics and storytelling/concepts that make him different. the production is a big part of that.
@VanitasTV
@VanitasTV 2 жыл бұрын
Also update, turns out Tyler really wasn’t Horrorcore
@ModestMediaTube
@ModestMediaTube 13 жыл бұрын
@boracay234 lol, yeah i know man, appreciate that! We're trying to get to that point where i can become more involved in the convos...It sucks being the camera man, lol. Thanks for being down with us though, we have so much more in the works.
@mykectown
@mykectown 13 жыл бұрын
@Corndoggg23 Yeah, in my opinion Sole's been a little questionable for some time now. This fuckery with Lil B just kinda solidifies that he may be falling off a little bit. His last few mixtapes were nothing in comparison to his other material. But I loved the other two Sole and The Skyrider Band albums, so we'll just see I guess.
@joshuaDstarks
@joshuaDstarks 9 жыл бұрын
I've always wondered if Feefo was about to kill someone when Ken is talking him down, so was Feefo about to kill someone?
@NatsuHime0
@NatsuHime0 11 жыл бұрын
They kept saying it's like Bastard but that's the point in Bastard T.C says we have three sessions today, tomorrow, and Wednesday there is going to be another album like Goblin and Bastard. Goblin was great my favorite songs off the album have to be Nightmare and Tron Cat. The album was creative because Tyler is being deep and emotional in this album I felt there was meaning in every song and Tyler is creating a persona for himself he's straight edge but painting this dark sadistic person which is Wolf Haley but he's being controlled by Tron Cat. It's all this big story that's going to come together in the third album which I think will show Tyler's full potential and it'll make sense in the end what it all means but it won't be as simple as he'll just tell you. He'll make you think behind the words and beats.
@kennithbinge
@kennithbinge 13 жыл бұрын
@PdubzCrew I totally agree with the fan club analogy. A lot people will jump on the bandwagon without a firm understanding of their music and what it is they are doing. We just argued with two of them. Tyler is dope. I agree. I hope he continues on this path and stay true.
@LivingwithoutAir912
@LivingwithoutAir912 13 жыл бұрын
i really enjoyed this guys. very well thought out and mature conversation.
@dbdakid
@dbdakid 12 жыл бұрын
Goblin is a continuation of Bastard... So that's why it's the same concept.
@azure5644
@azure5644 5 жыл бұрын
Damn they was complaining about the sound quality on Igor and they had the Smuckers beat playing during the first whole quarter lmao.
@Oscar-yf1rh
@Oscar-yf1rh 7 жыл бұрын
How come I liked this review but it made my head hurt at the same time
@sidespike6262
@sidespike6262 3 жыл бұрын
passion was bursting out of my screen while watching this imma go do reps now
@Deuce1042
@Deuce1042 12 жыл бұрын
@BlackLusterDragon9 Tyler wants Grammys..that's always been his dream. Goblin was a good album, bastard was a great album, but I think goblin should be judged on its own merits
@tylervinson1544
@tylervinson1544 11 жыл бұрын
That one guy knows that Tyler goes through progression and changes.
@phraynkh
@phraynkh 13 жыл бұрын
goblin, yonkers, nightmare, tron cat, she, her, fish, golden c'mon this album is incredible
@MrPrettyInPinkTV
@MrPrettyInPinkTV 13 жыл бұрын
@jazon345 Actually I think Bastard was more of Tyler's album considering the next album is Wolf. And Bastard is really all about Tyler's feelings and who Tyler is and what Tyler does. Goblin was that transition period.
@SoWhiteItsWrong
@SoWhiteItsWrong 12 жыл бұрын
I liked Goblin because of Tyler tried to explain his inner-workings of his mind. But I'm hoping he doesn't sell out on Wolf because of his success :/
@ADAJ3KINGANGEL
@ADAJ3KINGANGEL 6 жыл бұрын
Tyler recently came out and ended this debate.
@Yuuuuhhhhhhhh
@Yuuuuhhhhhhhh 6 жыл бұрын
No he didn't
@mondlidladla6563
@mondlidladla6563 6 жыл бұрын
@@Yuuuuhhhhhhhh my nigga you dont get the joke or you just being mean???
@jazon345
@jazon345 13 жыл бұрын
I think a lot of these guys are missing the point, the reason he takes back everything he says in the album is purely because the album is a huge paradox. He says it in Yonkers, it's starts at Goblin, the whole album is a battle between Tyler and Wolf. Bastard was purely Wolf's album because it had nothing but crazy shit, and as soon as Tyler sort of mellows up and makes some art he gets flamed. I agree that the hype was completely incorrect, but you cannot deny how great the idea was.
@Cologero314
@Cologero314 12 жыл бұрын
man..this guy with the dreads is the 1st to hate on everything....
@NorthernProdiGee
@NorthernProdiGee 12 жыл бұрын
When modest comes out it becomes one of the greatest musical arguments of all time.
@The_Paragon101
@The_Paragon101 13 жыл бұрын
I cant stand it when people negatively criticize something that they can never in there life create nor be a part of
@GoodeisSXE
@GoodeisSXE 8 жыл бұрын
Goblin had the best concept out of the trilogy
@yuhmuhfuhkuh
@yuhmuhfuhkuh 5 жыл бұрын
Nah that’d be Wolf
@kavoj9483
@kavoj9483 4 жыл бұрын
That's a weird way of spelling Wolf
@ModestMediaTube
@ModestMediaTube 13 жыл бұрын
@pgrbeast2 LOL! Yeah man, they were backing my man Feefo into a corner and i couldn't take it anymore! I knew one day something would make me come from behind the camera. Didnt expect it to be the Goblin Review though. Anyhow, we really appreciate you tuning in man, we work hard weekly to bring this to yall. Spread the word. Thanks!
@mykectown
@mykectown 13 жыл бұрын
@WelcomeToThe92503 You're right. A lot of people who are giving critiques are older because a lot of times we are the ones who have more of an understanding of music. But at the same time, most people who disagree with us have no argument against our points. Just attacks on us as people. (I wear skinny jeans, Ken wears a suit.) So if we had on a flannel and some cut off jean shorts (like Tyler) you'd have nothing to say? Argue the points. Not the wardrobe. That's silly.
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