The ULTIMATE FNAF Controversy Iceberg

[@Tylerland264]

Hope you guys enjoy! :) #1): The "Circus Baby Minecraft Animations" entry had to be trimmed out due to copyright detection, avoiding monetization for the video. Sorry about that, everyone. :/ #2): Also btw, sorry that for the Phisnom entry, the audio gets randomly quiet. I tried fixing it when reuploading the video cuz of the copyright stuff before the video's release and somehow it didn't even work. Apologies.

[@JoeyDoesStuff1120]

It was good and all but what about boxy boo?

[@JoeyDoesStuff1120]

@@linenlinen822 what’s FNaF play and why it’s controversial

[@Coroplocs-Chameleon]

It was great!

[@loganentertainment1814]

I'll admit the Fnaf Books are no doubt pretty creepy and, and yes, weird. But I overall love them. Keep working hard. 😀👍

[@CoralReaper707]

I definitely enjoyed. Literally had no idea about the accusations made against Th3Badd3st. That's how irrelevant they were. Maybe it's just that I'm not a twitter addict (and never should be).

[@CaptainZaimon]

I love how back in 2014-15 the average drama this fanbase had was like "this person wrote a weird fanfic" and now it's more like "alright so basically the official artist had nazi BDSM in their official portfolio"

[@fakeorchestra4260]

I mean, that isn't necessarily anything horrible. Let's not kinkshame, I can imagine that quite a lot of people would want to be stepped on by a girl in an SS uniform.

[@yeslifeisalie9769]

@@fakeorchestra4260 It just had to be the panty and stocking pfp

[@nah4437]

@@fakeorchestra4260 wtf

[@drakep.5857]

@@fakeorchestra4260 I think you need to take some medicine

[@CEPHALOPESSIMISM]

​@@fakeorchestra4260Its NAZI BDSM. NAZI. DID YOU NOT SEE THE NAZI PART?? HELLO??? GET A FUCKING GRIP, DUDE???

[@TheBlueJay69]

40% predators, 40% stolen fan models, 20% Mat Pat

[@jjmara01]

I'd say 40% predator, 30% Opinion drama, 20% stolen models, and 10% Matpat. So many was "I didn't like this" and people screaming at the void.

[@Devil--Pro]

@@jjmara01 Their probably cry baby liberals for the opinion parts

[@no2940]

​@@Devil--Procaucho Vidal

[@Kodaaaa]

@@Devil--Pro why must people always bring political ideas into this?? THAT is how Opinion drama starts.

[@Devil--Pro]

@@Kodaaaa Seems to got Scott out and allow a lazy company's greed to force Afton a return in Security Breach. Liberals always find a way to get into games. Liberals aren't that creative and one of their fun stuff is to make a evil male control a female so therefore the female wasn't evil, it was the controller. This was shown in the Liberal Black Widow movie, And Security Breach has Vanessa being mind controlled by Afton along with all the other animatronics. Therefore making Vanessa innocent since Afton was controlling her, Not herself!

[@ilivory974]

Dawko’s response to Phisnom being “I’d explain into more detail but clearly your brain is blinded by being stuck up your own ass” is going on my list of reasons why I love Dawko

[@pinklion8882]

At what time do they cover that on this video?

[@batimbug124]

@@pinklion8882 22:49 also nice steven universe pfp

[@funninoriginal6054]

I'm one of the folks that's more amicable towards Phis and even then i gotta admit this roast was fire.

[@Ethier12]

That’s why Dawkos the goat

[@Keflabutgreen]

*Dawgoat

[@maxvegabond3766]

Fun drinking game: Take a shot every time someone in the FNAF community comes out at a child predator.

[@nobod2567]

Mandopony, Jonochrome, Nicchi, Squimpis Mcgrimpus, Xylerguy, Thomassis

[@shatteredprism]

I think that might lead to possible alcohol poisoning. (Trying to be funny)

[@decadryl]

@@nobod2567bonus shot for rebornica 🫠

[@MaikolUwu]

@@nobod2567 bendy the bunny

[@firetrap6706]

Minecraft community : finally a worthy battle!!

[@raelogan]

"If Springtrap's jumpscare didn't suck, nothing after FNAF 3 would have happened." So, once again, it's all William's fault, lol

[@ToaArcan]

@@LebeanzErYT No point in animating something people can't even see. Game devs in general will cut corners by hiding stuff in places that the camera doesn't show.

[@alexanderchippel]

@@LebeanzErYT Why would they need to move? You never see them. In fact, his model only has legs because it was probably easier to just ignore them for Scott to remove them.

[@FunAngelo2005]

@@ToaArcan ofcourse

[@REEPAH187]

Yes he always comes back😔

[@fl8281]

Goddamnit Will!!

[@scpfan753]

To every non-toxic person in the FNAF community: Every community will have its toxic side, just because there were people who did really bad stuff in the past does not mean that all members of the community are like that.

[@creativeevil1369]

That's really encouraging. Thanks!

[@Lincfish10894TS]

Thank you

[@sorahashiro6687]

FACTS

[@Sergantnoob]

Facts

[@perijellyfish]

thank you!!

[@isbryanflyingordying2202]

I feel bad for matpat on the arg drama He just told people to look for any kinda arg and the community took it as Harass businesses and dox people and instead of taking responsibility they all blamed matpat for not telling his fan base how to behave when it’s literally just common fucking sense

[@staringcorgi6475]

It’s not matpat’s fault that people are morons

[@isbryanflyingordying2202]

@@staringcorgi6475 people should have taken the responsibility of there actions they all just shifted the blame onto him, it’s frustrating

[@gypsydanger1013]

Matpat conceived, birthed, and raised the cringy ARG fandom community lol don't feel bad for him. He's the ARG version of "how do you do fellow kids"

[@andreix4025]

And couse of those idiots majorety of People left the communety

[@madamplatypus313]

@@gypsydanger1013You aren’t oppressed by a guy online talking about video game physics, get the hell over yourself.

[@Monhamd1000]

This proves the community is more scarier than the games.

[@HelluvaOpp]

Bro this is so damn true 💀

[@JackO_kidplosion]

2015-2019 was something else man

[@jasperedwards7029]

The most scary thing is your grammar

[@legomarioboy08]

That and the r34

[@real.red.69]

@@jasperedwards7029you forgot a period.

[@Frnky-lw9rq]

So this entire iceberg can essentially be divided into two types of controversies: 1. Someone had an opinion 2. Someone was a pedo What the hell is wrong with this community

[@Devil--Pro]

It's filling up with Liberals

[@Youhadabadday2021]

Thank god Scott fell into the first category. Seriously. Guys. Stop treating politics like a damn sports match with the parties you pick. It's not a big deal.

[@catantcha99]

​@@Youhadabadday2021politics effect many peoples lives directly they are a big deal

[@Janfon1]

@@catantcha99 And so it begins lol

[@Youhadabadday2021]

@@catantcha99 Still, that's no reason to treat every political debate like an arguement about which sports team is better, and to classify anyone against your allegiance as the scum of the earth.

[@ineedzemedic5810]

I was a fnaf fan since the beginning in 2014. Seeing that I've been unaware of 95% of controversy for over 9 years is just wild to me. Seeing all this controversy covered to some degree makes me feel like a fish out of water because how I've missed all of these controversies or horrible things that have happened. Ignorance is bliss.

[@Aaron_HD]

Same

[@sadcena7204]

Same thing happened to me. I guess I'm just not super involved in the community to see these things. Also love your Marie pfp

[@2222bearbear]

literally same bestie

[@Dezaos]

I knew about some of these, but I honestly choose to ignore most of them. Only the MOST impacting ones I take notice, but a lot of these aren’t even worth time to use on.

[@luciusisdead]

same here 😭 pretty much the only things i know about ar ethe scott and fnafsb controversies lmao

[@MrMisfortune]

One thing you forgot about the "fnaf movie red eyes" thing is that a near universal complaint was that the animatronics looked *UNBELIEVABLY* stoned due to the eyes, which led to people saying they looked more funny than scary

[@ostena2315]

Don't forget the ones who are yelling to blumhouse to make the movie R-rated because they think fnaf is a gory game(they confirmed that movie will be pg-13 which make some of those persons mad)

[@quranturner7176]

Not to only mention that Bonnie’s is going to be blue in the movie as well and fans were complaining about that too

[@gamehero6816]

@ostena2315 the fact that PG-13 horror movies get easily dumped on is just... sad. Not all horror movies have to be rated R. Just look at A Quiet Place (both 1 and 2), The Others, and M3GAN.

[@thefancydoge8668]

@gamehero6816 the rating itself is not the problem, the MPAA is the problem, the MPAA is so unpredictable when it comes to rating a movie, sometimes a pg 13 movie can show a little bit of gore and then other times if a movie shows a little bit of blood the MPAA throws a hissy fit and bumps it up to a R rating. Im fine with pg 13 movies. It's just really annoying when 10 minutes of the movie gets cut or most of the movie gets censored to keep it pg 13 because of the MPAA's unpredictable rating system.

[@SCP-469]

And the fact that Blumhouse refused to change them and basically went “ Stop crying the world will go on, JEEZE,” and didn’t even acknowledge it was 100 times funnier

[@RiddleSquared]

battington did not deserve that hate. he clarified minutes after posting that it was a joke and the community acted like he actually killed martin himself.

[@Rey_Palpatine]

Yep, that "scandal" was very overblown. I don't think the guy who was the subject of the joke was even offended by it or anything, iirc. A bunch of random people decided to start drama over it and the way some of them acted, you'd think it was something way worse than it actually was.

[@dogelord79]

(it really didn't help squimpus acted like they had a podium of sorts to stand on and judge battington for it when they were grooming a minor behind the scenes)

[@gameranonymous2389]

Freaking Twitter.

[@goonking420]

And since squimpus is a b*tch, he should be allowed to recreate the rest of here videos!

[@sh00t1ngst4rzz]

Wait until y'all realized Squimpus isn't a decent person-

[@Eventualmoss315]

Honestly, I love how this community clowns on people for acting like children, but in turn act like infants when something isn't to their exact taste or if someone calls them out.

[@CoolestSwordFighter]

L troons

[@sayest]

I mean is that surprising? A lot of fans are literal children or teenagers who probably shouldn’t be on SM lol

[@JustThatGamer-ep6pm]

the movie is a perfect example, people complaining about bonnie being blue, the animatronics overall design and the red eye incident

[@jurassicarkjordanisgreat1778]

EXACTLY. I had so many of them attack my fangames because my fangames don't take themselves seriously and aren't scary. They told me That I have to follow a bunch of arbitrary rules and I can't do what I want despite it being a fangame.

[@PrivateKowalski221]

@jurassicarkjordanisgreat1778 That's the FNAF Community for you. Don't listen to people like that. If you are making a fangame, then make something unique! Good luck =)

[@scarfhay5541]

One thing that I can appreciate about the Security Breach controversy involving Phisnom is that he at least didn't pull a Phil Fish and just cancel FNAF Plus because he hated the direction FNAF was going. In fact, it motivated him more into making FNAF Plus a better game which is nice to hear. Edit: fuck

[@CoolestSwordFighter]

L troons

[@noahmaldonado5461]

He was angry because he's passionate for the FNAF series, I imagine many people could relate to their favorite series

[@DBG-fh7io]

Nah he was part of the crowd begging for security breach to release faster and when the game wasn’t finished he threw a temper tantrum. He’s a child

[@real9346]

​@@DBG-fh7io at least fnaf plus looks good tho

[@unapersonav1522]

​@@DBG-fh7io Imagine my Amazon package is supposed to come in a week, and two weeks later it hasn't arrived, so I file a complaint and it arrives all broken and messed up. But when I get mad about it I'm "a child". This is how you sound.

[@TheRealJaydenJohnson]

I love how a few of these "controversies" are just "they drew animatronic with boobs"

[@ostena2315]

I remember about five nights at anime(i used to think that the saga and their fangames where cancelled cuz the fandom started to hate that)

[@Wizardjones69]

Fnia for me is a dead unfunny meme, its worse of we think the animatronics have ghost CHILDREN

[@micjimster4845]

​@@Wizardjones69I think it's fine if it's the animatronics before they were possessed.

[@Wizardjones69]

But at the same time, its not funny, its like a edgy dude think tits and ass hahahaha funny + fnaf characters

[@tahuluke6133]

@@Wizardjones69 nah it's pretty funny

[@sohumchatterjee9]

Matpat's first ever FNAF theory really was a product of how different the internet as a whole was pre-2018

[@bossfadez8656]

It also shows that somehow a horror game franchise got one of the most toxic-snowflake, creepy audiences out there.

[@cozmoee]

@@bossfadez8656 bro watched the fnaf movie n think he a fan 😭😭😭

[@cozmoee]

@@bossfadez8656you are NOT in our commune lil bro 😎😂🎉‼️

[@bencet-p7322]

Bro is right, the FNAF community is one of the most terrible fandoms ever

[@TheRealJustAGuy]

I have been a fan for a long time (around sister location) I must say one thing and one thing only, Ambatukam

[@andreicadariu5403]

Markiplier making ANOTHER locked in sewer video after the controversy and talking about how he has a team of 100 people that search for the best fan fnaf games for him to play is clasic mark.

[@SUCHMISH]

You bring up any kind of blackmail with Mark he just stand there and say "Bring it, I'm not innocent and I did something stupid! Go ahead, lock me up!!" Truth be told you gotta like that kinda attitude, he is the kinda person where if the world turns on him, then he'll fight like he always have!

[@bassmanxan3544]

I fucking love Mark so much

[@real9346]

it truly takes guts to be locked in the sewer

[@Tytoalba777]

@@real9346 *Locked in sewer

[@yoboizom]

Didn't a ton of people come out and state that Kane was joking about the whole thing? I think even Emil Macko stated that everyone was blowing it all out of proportion.

[@bluesimine2023]

Controversial take, but I enjoyed the FNAF story more when it was simpler and not bloated It was genuinely creepy and even scary to me back when it was about a serial killer murdering kids at a Chuck.E.Cheese knock off and stuffing the bodies in the mascots As it went on it became less scary and interesting, to the point of being ridiculous If you like all the stuff, that's fine, that's just my take To me, it was more interesting and scarier back then

[@Leavemealone2-po7yn]

Understandable

[@devofficialchannel]

Hopefully, the FNAF movie will go back to its simple storytelling.

[@SCP-469]

Least controversial take in existence

[@vCherrykAI16]

Completely agree. A story is scarier when you don't know all the details. When you know the characters too well, it can make it too easy to get lost in the motive of the character and understanding the reasoning behind their actions. At the time when SL came out, I was stoked because of the character building, but now I kinda wish we didn't have any of that.

[@bandawin18]

Yeah the lore really got fucked after FNAF 4, that was probably the last kind of simple game lore-wise

[@LocalAceAJ]

2:50 “This accusation was instantly dunked on by many people.” The fact that even tho quite a bit of the fandom was pissed at Scott for this, everyone still basically rallied against this person like, “Ok, now you’re just making stuff up just to ride on this controversy”

[@devofficialchannel]

Without context, I thought the whole "Scott's pfp is actually a swastika" was some shitposty meme and not an actual accusation.

[@danieldubrovin8813]

I'm not involved in the fnaf community whatsoever, but the 'Scott's PFP/logo (or whatever it is) is actually a swastika' controversy sounds like a somehow less childish thing that happened in the 2015/2016 New Zealand flag referendums in which one of the best proposed (in my opinion the best out of the whole debacle) 'red peak' was arranged in a way by some gronk to make it look like the titular Austrian windmill combined with some other gross ass *political* (🤮) shit caused it to be obscured by the worst fucking designs you've ever seen in a flag, they then went back to the original flag anyway losing 26,000,000 million dollars in this whole process.

[@skogen5357]

​@@danieldubrovin8813do you mean Dennis O'Rourke?

[@skogen5357]

Not going into this debating but i think that the first iteration of the Lockwood silver leaf flag (the one with the leaf in the center going from bottom left to top right and the stars being in the top left) was the best looking, on the other hand idk wth Lockwood was smoking over the past couple of decades because the design got only worse and worse.

[@Matumama157]

As someone friends with the guy. It was quite literally just a shitpost. If anyone looked on his profile for 5 seconds they would find that he was never involved in the fnaf community and did it to just mess around

[@DaegosYT]

I love that Kane Carter is involved in 90% of the controversies on this list. Really speaks of his character

[@ashuraomega7113]

He's just as much as a crybaby as theft

[@CalzoneStudiozOfficial]

yet he is apart of the fanverse lol

[@jjmara01]

​@@ashuraomega7113I remember he even joined or made up with Theft for another drama that Theft had with his discord

[@pandalenz6534]

@@ashuraomega7113 They both have one thing going for them respectively: good FNAF VHS analysis for Theft, and Popgoes for Kane

[@uncommonsaucers2355]

@@pandalenz6534 "Good"? Theft is literally just an auditory description for blind people.

[@sebisonic]

This video explains the reason why I prefer to stay on the markiplier and dawko side of fnaf rather than dabble too far into controversies and lore stuff. Tbh I never took fnaf too seriously, and always focused on the more casual size of the franchise

[@SwaggyG_2102]

Im a bit disappointed that Rebornica isn't listed on this iceberg. Given how much of an impact that they had on the FNAF fandom during its early days and how they went out, I'm surprised that not a lot of people within the community talk about this person more.

[@thetommieguy]

What did rebornica do?

[@TheCatIsLooking]

Who is rebornicA?

[@ImTheGuy]

I found a three hour video easy on them. kzbin.info/www/bejne/fXyYZHilptZgptE, can you tell me if it's accurate.

[@PhoxphorusKitKat]

@@thetommieguy Memory's a bit hazy and I wasn't there but the broad run down is that they were an artist around the time when FNAF and FNAF 2 was a thing. She'd done some fan art of FNAF and etc. If you've seen fanart of Purple Guy being this like complete purple person with white eyes and a toothy grin, or seen art of Jermey where they had a question mark for a face, or phone guy having a rotery phone for a head (This was before Dayshifts FYI), that might've came from Rebornica. But was essentially harassed because she created her own AU of the FNAF story at the time and it sounded like she was hassled because people were confusing her AU for the real FNAF story or something and got hostile towards her for some reason. Not sure the deeper reasoning. This eventually lead them to completely leave the fanbase. Things appear to've gotten worse as I'm seeing a reddit post saying she harassed a deviantart user sometime in 2017 to account deletion because they tried to continue their AU.

[@backyardmachinery]

@@thetommieguy The entire situation with Rebornica is entirely largely a huge fnaf controversy in of itself from the time that stems way further and even just the fnaf stuff goes WAY more than just a few minutes of discussion even if it is in passing. A good video that should be watched on the whole issue with them is by Mali-Malware ,but be warned there's a huge chunk of triggering topics within the video. The entire video in of itself iirc is more than 2 hours? Maybe 3? And goes through the entirety of what happened there with them and the further controversy surrounding.

[@nobod2567]

Timestamps time! Layer 1:Tip of the iceberg 1:29-17:19 1:37 Scott's retirement 3:08 Security Breach 5:02 Illumix 7:28 Theft King 10:56 The Pear 12:49 Fazbear Frights 14:17 FNaF Lore 15:24 FNaF World 16:16 Gregbot Layer 2: Heart of the iceberg 17:19-35:06 17:27 Jonochrome 19:38 Funko 20:35 Nichhi 22:27 Phisnom 23:58 FNaF+ designs 24:54 This comes from inside 26:24 So many guards I can grape 27:30 Dream Theory 28:59 Aftonbulit 32:11 FNiA 32:46 Mandopony 33:35 Springtrap's jumpscare 34:25 Movie red eyes Layer 3: bottom of the iceberg 35:06-51:56 35:12 Lady Fiszi 36:21 Pinky Pills 37:04 Kane Carter rascism 38:16 Nikson transphobia 39:06 Tyler Ahlstrom 40:07 Uhyeah's SL video 41:37 Smike 43:28 Iulitm 44:35 Freddy in Space 2 teaser 44:58 Character Enc. 45:54 Puggoes Pizzaria 47:36 Radiance 48:26 Sheeprampage 49:18 Squimpis Mcgrimpus Grooming 51:14 Circus Baby Minecraft Animations Layer Fowa: Dark Waters 51:56-1:08:29 52:03 Martin Walls' "Death" 53:27 Th3Badd3st Islamaphobia 54:24 Matpat's 1st FNaF theory 56:04 FNaf v. Vivziepop 56:47 Top 10 gaming 57:59 LS Mark's fangame video 59:56 Fan Renders 1:00:48 FNaF Movie Sign 1:01:29 Funtimes at Homer's 3's n word 1:02:05 Kane Carter Markiplier 1:03:26 Adult Theory 1:04:11 Kane Carter FNaW 1:04:51 PewDiePie FNaF 4 1:06:03 The Freddy Files 1:07:36 FNaF movie trailer leak Layer 5: Abyss 1:08:29-1:23:08 1:08:36 Real Pizzarias being called 1:09:45 FNaF ucn mobile trailer 1:10:08 FNaF nfts 1:11:38 TannerFeline 1:12:06 Xylerguy 1:12:58 Thomastis 1:13:47 Kandyland 1:14:18 GGY 1:14:51 B-7 1:16:52 Scott changed his phone # 1:17:35 5 nights at the Haunted House 1:19:08 Rewriting Security Breach 1:20:49 FNaF ARG 1:23:08 Conclusion You're welcome! However there is some controversies that I kinda wished you talked about: Namygaga. She's a FNaF fan artist and is known for her sister location speedpaints. she's in infamy due to being racist and her Springtrap x puppet stuff. The worse being making the kids of Springtrap and puppet to be a couple that's the word that starts with the letter I type of relationship. Very fucked up and disappointing. UTTP fandom fight: basically what happened was in May 2015, 2 months after FNaF 3 came out, the FNaF community was attacked by the UTubeTrollPolice(UTTP for short), a infamous internet group first formed in Canada and a big name group in the GoAnimate community. What's worse is that the uttp also attacks the bendy and Undertale communities as well. It is such a wild situation.

[@lordofhollows242]

there is always one dude who does this ty

[@nobod2567]

@@lordofhollows242 you're welcome

[@jibriladen7873]

Is it bad I know a decent chunk of these?

[@LlamaLlama213]

im surprised blueycapsules wasnt mentioned too lmao

[@You-Tube-n5k]

It's been so long since I've ever thought about GoAnimate omg

[@dogelord79]

the squimpus controversy is an extreme disappointment to me, the original fnaf vhs is the inspiration that made things like analog horror really take off and i really respected them for making such a good series that would lead to other series like the walten files and mandela catalogue being made doesn't help they acted sort of "above" battington during that whole controversy when behind the scenes squimpus was doing something way worse than making a tasteless joke

[@error-try-again-later]

I'm pretty sure Battington wasn't even the first person to make that joke so idk why it suddenly wasn't okay when he did it.

[@graphitebendy]

At this point, Dormitabis is just low-hanging fruit for this kind of thing. It's not like it's undeserved, but just because it's so damn easy.

[@barbecuedwaffle3795]

Yeah. Honestly it's concept and character ideas are kinda cool, being trapped in purgatory and trying to save yourself by facing warped forms of the creatures that sent you there. It just got fucked up by a man and his shitty fetishes.

[@monomate]

it sucks because the concept is great, but the original game/creator will always follow it and it's remasters like a curse

[@graphitebendy]

@monomate Yeah. I absolutely love Garvey's design. It's got to be my favorite Springtrap iteration. Also, the purgatory concept it cool

[@monomate]

@@graphitebendy it's good that the remaster's releasing next month too, since it's gonna fix most of the flaws with the original i hope it blows up and people don't hate on it for being dormitabis

[@graphitebendy]

@@monomate Wait, it has a remaster being made?

[@raelogan]

I love how MatPat will keep pushing GregBot, but will draw the line at Shamrock Freddy and Chocolate Bonnie being canon, lol.

[@webber-gaming]

robot kids? sure, but the existence of the irish? cmon, fnaf isn't THAT insane (im joking btw, im pretty sure that ireland is real)

[@Lil_Ducky43]

@@webber-gamingtf you mean you’re pretty sure Ireland is real? Of course it’s real

[@bread1189]

@@Lil_Ducky43 This guy thinks that Ireland is real 😂😂😂

[@xxx_vinnie_paul_xxx1861]

I can understand certain skins like the Sizzling Summer bunch being non-canon because why would Fazbear Ent. actually deliver an Endo with a flamethrower to someone, but the harmless stuff like Chocolate Bonnie and VR Toy Freddy not being canon just sounds goofy.

[@jurassicarkjordanisgreat1778]

@@webber-gaming I mean fnafs lore is so open to peoples headcanons that you could just pretend its canon.

[@BaobhanloreArt]

As someone who has autism and various other neurological disorders, I'll say this: working or associating with someone in our community does not mean you aren't ableist. It's a blatant "I'm not racist, I have a black friend" type arguement. You can absolutely harbour resentment and hatred, internalised or openly, while still interactong with us. If anything its kind of impossible to not have any neurodivergent coworkers in the game development industry.

[@idontownagoldfish]

thats what i was thinking when i heard that part 😭

[@nickrustyson8124]

Debatably it's worse than the "I have black friends" argument because with that, you still have to form a friendship and a bond, having a Autistic Coworker or Employee is just something that just kinda happened

[@kwayneboy1524]

As someone who is openly racist I agree

[@LiminalLex]

Is this about the matpat thing? I dont feel like watching the whole video so that is why i am asking. Didnt see if they talked about that or not

[@LiminalLex]

@@kwayneboy1524what

[@thekeybladeninjaturtle7380]

William Afton in main FNAF community: A flawed yet interesting horror villain with one of the best animatronic designs (at least in FNAF 3) Dave Miller in DSAF: A comedic take on William Afton with a hilarious TTS voice and various memorable quotes. Old Sport. Garvey Write in Dormitabis: A disgusting take on William Afton that is essentially a self insert of the game's creator and makes the FNAF 3 Musical Springtrap blush

[@fritzy8318]

I unno. I think Glitchtrap is a good design in the sense of him being uncanny. He moves around too fluidly and being mute makes it a bit creepier. Then again I’m probably biased since he’s my fave.

[@thekeybladeninjaturtle7380]

@@fritzy8318 Either way, you make a good point about Glitchtrap

[@fritzy8318]

@@thekeybladeninjaturtle7380 I like to think of Glitchtrap as a representation of how Afton acted when he was luring the child into the back room before killing them. All joyful energetic and smiling widely. Giving promises of the best day they’ll ever have in their entire little lives. Only speaking before getting there. Silent when trying to get them to come. I’d imagine he picked up sign language if his victim was deaf or hard of hearing.

[@nobod2567]

Simon Fitzgerald in Popgoes: Brother of Jeremy Fitzgerald who lured & murdered 5 children for to obtain their blood to save his brother after getting bit by toy Bonnie.

[@fritzy8318]

@@nobod2567 buddy. What does this have to do with Glitchtrap. Or Springtrap.

[@wiistereman]

Five Nights at Freddy's fans should be kept 20 meters away from all schools and kindergartens.

[@Mr.Feather130]

Yeah true

[@pandalenz6534]

See, I'm in high school, and I'm a huge fan of FNAF. I'm opinionated but usually pretty respectful, only being an ass when someone is being an ass to me!

[@ConnieTheo]

Hmm... that be hard to do to all those children

[@PokeMario-pk4ot]

Kinda hard to do when grade school children are most of the fanbase

[@wiistereman]

@@PokeMario-pk4ot @ConnieTheo Let's transfer all the FNAF children into one school.

[@FloorMasterKusho]

DirectDoggo finishing DSAF with the greatest fan game of all time and leaving before he got cancelled was a god damn blessing

[@oldsport7148]

Right

[@bruceadkins5591]

@@oldsport7148 hello old sport

[@cappyshumorchannel6800]

@@oldsport7148hello old sport

[@goldenhydreigon4727]

Wait what was he cancelled for?

[@FloorMasterKusho]

@@goldenhydreigon4727 he wasn’t cancelled dw

[@absolutetr4sh551]

Honestly my issue with Kane stems from the way he interacted with Markiplier. He just acted incredibly entitled and butthurt when he learned Markiplier didnt know about FNAF Plus, but like, the game isn't even out, so what was he expecting?

[@dogelord79]

if anything he probably soured mark's potential view on the game that he would have very likely discovered in the future i really hope that locked in sewer thing didn't demotivate mark to not wanting to play fnaf plus, it'd be really cool to see him play it

[@addison_v_ertisement1678]

Nothing shown in the video made me think he was even remotely close to being mean. He's making one of the biggest fangames, so seeing an almost unheard of game get more attention can be disheartening and confusing.

[@jakeford12]

Yea lane kind of made himself look like an idiot.

[@RipVanWinkle-fg3ld]

Honestly, fnaf world wasn't that bad, it was fun collectingbthe characters and completing the puzzles, sure, it doesn't contribute much to the lore, but it honestly had good moments, I loved wiping out the bosses like Bubba with Scott Cawthon's 4th wall attack, it wasn't bad, it just didn't contribute

[@RipVanWinkle-fg3ld]

Oh, btw, I'm replying to my own comment as the video plays so my opinion isn't dragged

[@RipVanWinkle-fg3ld]

Honestly, this whole "opinion clashing opinion" is bullshit, what happened to this community. A bunch of softies get mad over the games, like I remembered thinking Fnia was boner city, Five Nights at Fuckboys was the game to play because that shit was fun to play. Now, everyone has an issue because Freddy has a mole on his ass, like everybody, stop shitting on something just because you feel entitled, nobody gives a fuck about what you think, you got nothing nice to say, don't even bother showing up, it's an amazing videogame series ruined by pedophile artists, or annoying ass snowflakes, it's sad something so amazing is ruined

[@RipVanWinkle-fg3ld]

Freddy in space wasn't even that bad for fanart, look at other cheesy space movies, and you'd see, A. Muscles, B. Pressed breasts, C. Bulges on the suit, but no one has an issue with it

[@RipVanWinkle-fg3ld]

Matpatt's theory was just a tie in, this literally was years ago, WHY ARE PEOPLE SO HELLBENT ON DIGGING SHIT ON EVERYONE, it's so stupid!!! Mat pat just made a tie, it seemed like a coincidence, it's not like he was saying that IS the case, it's so fucking ridiculous

[@RipVanWinkle-fg3ld]

It's so hypocritical that people have an opinion, and theybget shit on, but when a creator has an opinion SEEING THE GAMEPLAY, nah, he's gotta be shit on just for giving an opinion on what he's seen, if you have a problem with it, well too bad, opinions are opinions, we shouldn't be shitting on people for it

[@yannickgrignon2473]

Can I just say I really appreciate how this video doesn't use jarring self-censors or ridiculous euphemisms for words relating to serious or dark subject matter? Really feels more mature and honest.

[@phantomology13]

I really hate when channels say shit like “unalive” and “r-word” it makes the person making the video sound 5 and it’s really hard to take their points seriously

[@Man_Aslume]

Blame youtube being garbage ​@@phantomology13

[@XaviorCostigan]

This iceberg is very well made. I think there’s a few bigger controversies that were missed and some minor ones that weren’t really that big, but still it’s very good. I’m truly shocked how much drama came out of the fanverse initiative just from the games to the developers and stuff like that.

[@KronkAll]

fancy seeing you here big man

[@borostanca]

you have any examples?

[@loganentertainment1814]

I'll admit that Fnaf isn't perfect, but let's be honest, just about every gaming franchise has its faults. From people nitpicking over the dumbest things, creators being idiots (not Scott), and poor business decisions. Overall, I still love Fnaf as a franchise, and no matter what people have said or done that have tainted Fnaf, I'll still be a fan. I hate it that some people have brought the worst out of this franchise resulting in it looking bad. TheftKing is one of those people. Granted he's still said some things on twitter that shows he's still as bad as he was in the past, but thankfully he hasn't started another controversy (yet). As I said before, despite Fnaf having its faults and its bad eggs, I still love this franchise.

[@ToxicBlur1337]

Sonic is a great one to look at. Sonic games suck sometimes, but some still love the series regardless!

[@CoolestSwordFighter]

L troons

[@Mike14264]

Yeah, though he's built up a beef against... what, four people now, at least? I honestly feel bad for the folks who were his friends, like Pastra and JustCosti, who got to see his worst side first hand.

[@Mike14264]

​@@ToxicBlur1337 oh yeah, the Sonic fandom is infamous for having its own set of stinkers in the community, probably because, since the series is so divided, so is the community in general. We've had very different approaches to 2D games and especially 3D games, three different comics at this point, and each one of them has both hardcore lovers and hardcore haters. I think folks could mellow down a bit, and this goes for any fandom out there, it would only do good to them.

[@XaviorCostigan]

This is very true, it’s why I tend to stick to my corner of the FNAF community these days and just enjoy the games at their base level

[@Lemerksiscool]

I find it funny how these controversies are either "this is the worst person ever, commiting one of the most heinous crimes which makes us wonder if we should even support their stuff" to "springtrap jumpscare not scary :("

[@Nikkkkkkkkkkk]

Sure, Theft King shouldn't have asked Liam for in interview bc of the NDA (and is generally a clown) but Liam trying to avoid culpability and shifting ALL the blame to Theft once he got into the big controversy is so embarrassing.

[@typoman2880]

Not to mention that jellyliam literally deleted their side of the discord conversation

[@jjmara01]

It seemed desperate to dunk on the new punching bag to look cool and welcomed in again.

[@banshee8901]

I find it insane how toxic a community coming from an indie horror game can be. It’s just a reminder of how not even something as simple as a game can be enjoyed and celebrated or even constructively criticised without people being horrible or getting mad.

[@kellymacias7340]

The thing with Scott's retirement, from the groups I was in when he announced it, they didn't want him to straight up leave. A lot of people that I knew at the time would say horrible things about Scott and then acted sympathetic and like they didn't mean it when he quit. Really shows the mob mentality people had

[@quinnnewman2618]

Bro didnt even retire

[@vulpes7079]

I mean, from what was going on at the time I think the people actually harassing him just wanted an easy target. The people who were actually mad at Scott's behaviour weren't usually the ones harassing him and threatening his family

[@vulpes7079]

On Twitter at least most of the people I saw saying horrible stuff directed at Scott do the same for other creators and even just random people

[@scrittle]

You often forget how almost all internet controversies are inflated by pubescent children being too naive to see sense. Scott didn't retire, he gives the writing team notes like the Dragon Ball creator.

[@AluminumFusion22]

As controversial as Scott's political stances are, especially around the time the donations were made, I have to respect that not only did he quickly admit the donations were real, but tried to explain why he donated to those certain Republican lawmakers. MatPat did a bit of a deep dive into the candidates that Scott donated to and the dates the donations were made. He found out that Scott's motives for donating were true at the time of the donations, one example I can think of is Tulsi Gabbard, as Scott donated to her because he thought she had pro-LGBT views, and at the time she did before backtracking later on.

[@ashuraomega7113]

Scott made those donations because he thought it could help support the people he personally felt could better impact the country and the world itself. It sucks that people like to drag his name in the mud just because he has different opinions

[@mikhaelgribkov4117]

​@@ashuraomega7113​ oh pls, I believe brown shirts lucky to have folk like you around.

[@ashuraomega7113]

@@mikhaelgribkov4117 ?

[@ashuraomega7113]

@@Arty-01qw19 what!?

[@VENOM-lp3qf]

Actually it’s cause trump and the others were great and will fix this country from the radical left and also from the pedophiles know as LgbtMaps. Your either just gay or silent if your part of the lgbt group then your instantly a terrorist and pedophile easy as that. Scott isn’t pro lgbt he just doesn’t care he had to donate because he wanted to make people happy cause he was getting threats. Scott made a game for people to enjoy Not to put woke political agendas in cause Scott knows if he did that his game would be boycotted. 98% if the earth no longer supports the lgbt so relax and just move on.

[@Gamingraptorpro]

This was the hardest video to sit through, not because of the video itself (You did a great job) but because some of the controversy are cringe. I think after this, you should dedicate a video to the positive side of the community.

[@trashman11]

Scott left because people threatened his kids and wife. I don’t blame him

[@drmantaray444]

I feel bad for him- I don't think he fully understood what they were doing

[@CollinHittJr]

It is genuinely sad how this community behaves

[@flowerfloofs]

I fully blame him for the donations he chose to give to people he knew would do damage to minorities, however, I don't blame him for stepping down & strongly hate the people who threatened him and his family. I don't think he's a bigoted person, far from it, but I also think you shouldn't donate to people who're walking human rights violations, no matter how much of their economic policy you support.

[@More1481Pictures]

@@CollinHittJr almost every community seems to behave in a toxic way nowadays.

[@flowerfloofs]

@JohnnyKneegrow super cool thing 2 say 2 the minority your stupid ass game dev hurt Eat glass lol

[@nickcarlsonpress]

Very well-done video. I admire your sense of objectivity towards not just me but for all other entries. To add to the "stolen Glamrock Chica fanart" drama, I thought it'd be nice to convey that the original artist, ShrimpFace, and I made contact after the original video aired and we made peace with each other. It was a relief and a touching moment, knowing that these things can still be handled in mature, professional manners.

[@Tylerland264]

Yeah, that's why I said it was credited later in the description just to basically say that situation was cleared up.

[@RespectableRick]

I don't care, official Five Nights At Freddie's mpreg has to be the funniest thing I've ever heard, I can't even be mad.

[@error-try-again-later]

I was legitimately laughing so hard at the "springtrap jumps out and calls him daddy" line lmao, it's so fucking stupid that I can't get mad at it

[@Marcuskwok-hn5yi]

@@error-try-again-laterI agree

[@Man_Aslume]

I just imagine scrap trap voice saying daddy ​@@error-try-again-later

[@onemoreminute0543]

The controversy over Cawthons politics was partly what drove me away from the FNaF series in 2021. It was tragic to see community tear itself in half. I think for a lot of people, FNaF was a comfort series of sorts to retreat into from controversial topics like that, so it was crazy how it got brought up in the community.

[@JoeyDoesStuff1120]

I was honestly sick of FNAF drama ever since 2021, It sucks that we had to go through all of this shit with people doing stupid and absolutely disgusting stuff. Still tho, That doesn't change the fact that the FNAF community have some of the most creative people out there and it makes me feel happy when a fan with amazing talent gets his creation realized by the public. No matter what you think of the FNAF franchise and it's fandom, You can't deny that this series changed people lives for the best. Great video btw❤

[@Apollos_vice]

Scott's own community kicked him out because his political views didn't align with theirs, they never should of let kids on the internet because all of the bullshit I see is being backed up by 10 year olds who don't know shit about what they are supporting.

[@williammurrell705]

And also because of the porn and pedos

[@ineedzemedic5810]

@@Apollos_vice Oh i haven't seen any those arguments because I haven't seen much of the fnaf drama in 2021 can you tell me what political views didn't align with the community and what kids did?

[@Austin-5098]

​@@Apollos_vicedamn I'm getting wisdom from a fucking hashbrown The world really is going to shit huh?

[@GlitchyPixExtra]

@@Apollos_vice "His political beliefs didn't align with theirs" He donated money to multiple politicians who advoted for anti-LGBT legistlations. Scott may not speak ill of the LGBT community but that doesn't matter when he donates to people who's advocate for policies that strip away the community's rights. People are allowed to be angry with you when you donate money to politicians who want to remove their civil rights, the fact that you are not outspokenly or intentionally trying to bigoted does not matter if your actions are still bigoted in nature. Scott can donate to and vote for whoever he likes, no one can strip that right away from him but his actions still have concequences and it is not on LGBT fans to simply forgive and forget a man who's largest donation was to Mitch McConnell, a man who voted nay to the Respect for Marriage act, an act specifically made for the express purpose of protecting the recognition of same sex marriage across states (Editing this in to prevent people from putting words in my mouth, no I don't Scott should have been doxxed or threatened or had people tell him they were going to come to his house)

[@MyOpinionIsInvalid]

Poeple hate "This comes from inside" because it's harsh on its approach to the community, but bro, have you seen this community💀

[@koopaeliminator4148]

That's exactly why I love the song. Cause holy shit, the fanbase needs a wake up call sometimes.

[@cursedscreenshotposter]

That song was the best FNAF song ever, absolutely goated. -anyone who disagrees is wrong- but seriously, it gets you thinking

[@devofficialchannel]

They most likely reported the video with the reason "I'm in here and I don't like it".

[@Man_Aslume]

They have balls to critique the fandom And i respect it and agree

[@Man_Aslume]

​@@koopaeliminator4148yes

[@charliemcloughlin1761]

Phisnom saying he doesn’t like the direction is the least controversial thing on this list and people still got furious about it. And I hate to say it because I’ve always loved FNAF, but he’s right. We’ve focused on the same characters for so long that I think FNAF is due for a clean slate without bringing Afton back again. We can focus on new characters interacting with the FNAF world at other locations. Or, go back in time and explore the murders or why Afton is Like That if there’s a reason. There’s so much lost potential because they make new storylines to explain the events and details of the old ones instead of exploring the missing gaps themselves

[@germania5374]

FNAF Internet Personality try not to be a Pedophile Challenge (impossible)

[@pestilenssi8979]

Lmaooo

[@Jerryisntthecodgod]

8-bit ryan: I'm still standing!

[@lolanola1783]

I remember being 7 and playing Fnaf2 with my best friend at the time during sleepovers. We'd get scared shitless, and then go watch Fnaf theories on youtube. Fnaf and inde horror in general made up a lot of my childhood, and it has such a sense of nostolgia for me.. it's strange how much Fnaf has changed over time, and with it, all of the controversies and dramas that happened along the way

[@penguinsrockrgr8yt216]

The fact the message of the book was misunderstood by MatPat and then he had to learn the message the hard way is fucking hilarious to me

[@GloomyZoroark]

Im kind of surprised that fuboo wasnt mentioned. Despite being most known now for her visual novel and the grooming case fuboo used to be a prominent FNAF fan artist and gained most of her audience from the fandom. She was on par with Rebornica in both style and notoriety in the fandom. Recently though she was outed as a transphobic groomer who preyed on a minor and once the minor was of age she lured them to her home and let her husband assault them. Repeatedly.

[@WbDD_ftw]

based

[@varibunn]

oh my god seriously? I drew fanart for her when I was a kid. oh my god. is there a thread on info or something?

[@stephaniesheep1147]

Uh who are they again? (Sorry I don't know who they are :"])

[@GloomyZoroark]

@@stephaniesheep1147 They made a purple guy au and ripped off rebornicas style and concepts. Later on they made a yandere visual novel based off of her husband and the minor she groomed.

[@stephaniesheep1147]

@@GloomyZoroark Jesus Christ

[@moltenfreddy1995]

In my opinion the Kane Carter Markplier drama is the stupidest drama E V E R

[@stephaniesheep1147]

Yeah it was pretty stupid...

[@addison_v_ertisement1678]

Death threats over a question. This is just sad.

[@mich4582]

an update to the "So many guards I can-" part of the iceberg Lhugueny made a reference to the meme in the "Fnaf Movie: The Musical" video but replace the word that I'm not gonna say, to "grape" reason probably being that he knows how big the meme is and decided to play along, or to avoid demonitisation (but if were being honest, it's prolly the first reason)

[@Samtehsonicandfnaffan-du4nk420]

And also FNAF 3 the Musical is not demonitized yet, so hooray!

[@funnyword8084]

im sick of everyone i look up to on the internet being pedos. what even is the world anymore. this happens so often and i cant take it anymore.

[@ornitorrincoc1borgue767]

All the thomastis bullshit specifically made me feel nauseated, absolutely ruined my night digging through more of the story. Morbid curiosity's a bitch

[@RedSpade37]

Being able to deal with being an online persona for a prolonged period of time requires a certain kind of psychological makeup, and unfortunately, that often contains people who are... well, not great, to put it mildly. But, on the other hand, sometimes, there are legitimately great people to be found on this platform, and I hope as time goes on, people in general will get better at identifying the not-so-great ones. Though, I admit, I'm always bracing for my current favorites to be revealed as people who shouldn't have been my favorites.

[@colehydro2515]

The fact that not even a month can pass without some big controversy says a lot about this fandom.

[@spicypeppers7773]

I honestly appreciate you (with a few exceptions of course) not being biased towards any of the controversies and just telling the facts / info, as it allows the viewer to just take in situation and come to there own conculsion on wether or not they should like / support the person mentioned in question. Really nice job with this one :)

[@CoolestSwordFighter]

L troons

[@dc8536]

Bro half these controversies are literally the community throwing a tantrum over nothing and the other half is straight up crimes. So much fatherless behavior in this fanbase.

[@brennodamicogermani9053]

Love that the fnaf 3 critique was “not scary enough” and fnaf 4 was “it’s just jumpscares it’s getting old”

[@Iusescratchcuzyes2949]

When phantom fox jumpscared me I litterally jumped 19 feet back how is it not scary

[@osup3]

@@brennodamicogermani9053 fnaf 3 had all the non-lethal jumpscares

[@PandaSlothProductions]

Mandopony was my favorite fnaf singer when I was younger. When I learned about what happened, I was heartbroken. Still can’t believe he’d do such a thing 😢

[@salt8548]

same.. i hadnt been in fnaf for a while when i suddenly remembered his songs and wanted to listen to them again, only to find that some of the vids were gone. then i heard what happened. it sucks so much. pedophilia seems to be scarily rampant in the fnaf community. disturbing.

[@PandaSlothProductions]

@@salt8548 That is almost exactly what happened to me too. I’ve loved fnaf since I was little and have never left the community. One day, I decided to listen to mandopony music and somehow ended up a video that gave evidence proving he wasn’t innocent. Kinda traumatized me honestly.

[@Enn3rdAnimates]

Yeah same, I was actually shocked that he created another FNAF song thinking that he could get away with what he'd done and I guess he sorta did in a way ;-;

[@Excelsior1937]

@@salt8548 Not just in the FNaF community. I feel like everyone's avoiding talking about just how rampant it is in general. Like, when are we going to stop pretending it's this nice thing that only a few twisted people are doing?

[@apolloandwarrior_3229]

​@@Enn3rdAnimatesKnowing what he did immediately ruined the songs for me, he truly had talent just a shame it had to go to such a garbage human.

[@xsoultillerx]

considering that most of these "controversies" in the first 3 layers are just non issues serves as a reminder to how oversensitive the FNAF community truly is. like seriously how can people be this terminally online and be incapable of growing thicker skin? that said it also astonishing but not surprising how many people in the community have been outed as sexual predators.

[@dc8536]

FNAF fanbase is mostly kids/teens. With that, it makes sense why they are so sensitive and a big target for predators.

[@Devil--Pro]

@@dc8536 Yeah even the trans kids and the gays and lesbian kids. They'll try and control everything they see for their entertainment. Mostly the Autistic ones.

[@Brite-um2tq]

It kinda feels like *all* fandoms these days have a periphery of children, from my perspective. The fact that that scares me is ironic because I started playing Terraria as a kid. Maybe I was just more mature than most of my age back then, I have no idea.

[@scrittle]

Free-thinking political edgy prepubescent teenagers. A rancid group of susceptible impressionists with too much free time hold more influence than adults trying to keep their life in-order.

[@RadioactiveE3]

What's funny the most is that, there are some controversies in the FNaF community that honestly didn't need to be controversies (meaning, there are controversies that should've been avoided in the first place if prominent members just kept there mouth shut, or that were just people's opinions, etc. Two good examples being, one - Kane "going after" Markiplier for not knowing the Fanverse, some people just don't know about it, especially people who don't follow FNaF 24/7, Mark plays the games but that doesn't mean he stays up to date on it's news. Kane was just upset that a very obscure fangame got recognition from Mark but Mark didn't know about the Fanverse. And finally two - I don't watch PewDiePie personally and honestly was never big on his content, but I respect anyone's opinions even if they're the complete opposite of me, that's what makes Humans unique. But there is absolutely not reason to get angry at someone because they shared their opinion on something. There was NO reason at all for a part of the FNaF & PewDiePie communities to get upset at him just because he doesn't get jumpscared or frightened by FNaF. It sucks that a portion of the FNaF community, whether they're prominent members or ordinary fans, always have to start something controversial that didn't need to be controversial in the first place, which sadly happens every few months. I AM NOT SAYING THE ENTIRE FNAF COMMUNITY IS AT FAULT, every community has it's "dark side". But like, damn, I'd argue that the FNaF community might be one of the most controversial communities for a reason (once again, not the fault of everyone in that community, but just the people who cause this type of crap).

[@theplaguesreturn]

seeing a fnaf controversy is more common than seeing a damn pebble outside at this point

[@supersym1217]

It hurts a little bit seeing all these controversies, especially the ones like jonochrome and especially squimpus and battington as I love those vhs videos. It’s crazy how to think about this franchise, which started off being about possessed kids’ robots has all this stuff behind the curtain

[@QueenNagaJacie]

I feel battington avoid the worst of time since a lot of people stayed away from Squimpus after he took away the rights for Battington to remake the original FNaF VHS series and considering what has happened to Squimpus now I feel like Battington should do more remakes to spite Squimpus

[@n1n10doboy]

The Vivziepop drama is the one I had zero knowledge about, and I honestly don’t know why it was a thing (mainly the whole wiki graffiti drama.) I also still find the UhYeah Sister Location video controversy to be kinda ridiculous. The dude made a video sharing his opinion about a game, and yet people whined over it. But hey, that’s the internet.

[@nobod2567]

Yeah I remember the FNaF fans happened to replace the images of Vivziepop herself and Edward Bosco(VA for Alastor on Hazbin Hotel's pilot, Striker's replacement actor, Millie's Dad Joe, Jessie the bouncer working at Ozzie's, and that hellhound dude from the now upcoming season 1 finale part 2 on Helluva Boss, as well as Hammerhead on One Punch Man & 18-volt on Wario Ware, just to name a few) with images of Scott Cawthon and TLT respectively.

[@Amazing_tree]

Fnaf has so much Controversy that it has there own iceberg about it 💀

[@pandalenz6534]

Yeah.....

[@CoralReaper707]

I like how the "Ö" in Tyler Ahlström's name wasn't capitalized on the iceberg. Don't believe me? See 39:06

[@devofficialchannel]

​@@CoralReaper707It is to make space for the two dots on the "o".

[@noriyakigumble3011]

I’m not going to say that people didn’t have a reason to be angry or concerned about Scott’s donation once they came out. A lot of FNAF fans were justified in feeling burned by his donations, and the excuse of “oh I didn’t know” would definitely ring hollow to the people who had no choice in experiencing the policies and rhetoric of certain politicians. But I also find it VERY telling how quickly the Community was willing to turn on him, and misinterpret him. I’d actually argue that this whole drama started because someone was just snooping for trouble to stir up, and it doesn’t help that people were willing to dox and harass him and his family. “Oooh this game is so fun, Lemme just look up the creator and see if they donated to any political candidates with problematic policies!” Overall I think it was a really messy situation and nobody really came out looking particularly good

[@LiminalLex]

I dont think matpat apologized about it at all. If im wrong please tell me. Which is the problem. He does his research and he didnt do his research on autism speaks?

[@TheeHAILSTORMBREAD]

Back in 2014-2015, fnaf was just a good old indie horror game. But now, it's sealed history to the gaming community. Always respect the creator and wat he has done for his fans because without his creation, we are nothing in the first place.

[@StarlightNkyra]

I'm not the biggest fan of iceberg videos (especially ones that focus too much on the Fandom). However, this one was put together so well, I wanted to watch it, if not to see the lengths that Social media will go to spread negativity. It has progression that feels like it keeps getting more and more obscure and you take the time to outline every layer as a general gauge for that obscurity. I'd watch other iceberg videos that I felt focused on the wrong things, or didn't have clear progression, so they just felt like an hour of rambling. I actually feel like I understand the Fnaf community more. Great video!

[@M4t_P4tGT]

I love how even Scott hates FNAF World, but it is literally my favorite FNAF game lmao

[@Mr.Chopper]

I enjoyed it as well, I don’t really understand the hate tho

[@mathisonchicetawn8445]

probably one of the only FNAF games I ever played (because I don't have the money to buy some of the others and I'm too chicken).

[@Mohmar2010]

Im on the side that's glad John is seeking therapy, and that the relationship didn't develop into something FAR WORSE I believe in second chances myself, unless you have committed such a messed up act (such as send images to someone or try to meet a minor irl for you know what etc) then you should be instantly locked up immediately I hope for the girl to have a better life though, no one should do something like that or go through something like that at all, even if it's tame, it's still wrong

[@heckarockstick802]

i agree actually

[@discipleofdagon8195]

For a lot of people, bashing p-words is just a chest thumping contest of how hard someone can execute them but no one talks about prevention or willing rehabilitation

[@klunsgod]

i want you to share that same charity with Nicchi, creator of Dormitabis.

[@pandalenz6534]

"I believe in second chances myself, unless you have committed such a messed up act (such as send images to someone or try to meet a minor irl for you know what etc) then you should be instantly locked up immediately" IE Blackout should be in prison!

[@Mohmar2010]

@@pandalenz6534 Why did you copy part of my comment i don't understand

[@mcduck9458]

There were honestly a lot of things I wanted to say from watching this video, but I’ll just say a few. 1. I’m pretty glad Dawko didn’t directly start any sort of drama so far. It just kinda shows that he can be a fun person on camera, and he does genuinely seem like a good guy. 2. Kane Carter was involved in shocking amount of drama. Hopefully he redeems himself, because he seems to be on thin ice for me. 3. I do kinda hope I see a day where Jonochrome does return. I don’t know how the internet as a whole would react, but I genuinely really like his work.

[@Nero4Smash]

Nahh, he should stay gone and continue working on himself as grooming is uncool

[@Nero4Smash]

@@mcduck9458 you think grooming is cool, kinda gross

[@mcduck9458]

@@Nero4Smash I’m not saying that, I’m saying that I disagree about the Jonochrome part.

[@mcduck9458]

@@Nero4Smash Don’t be an asshole

[@mcduck9458]

@@Nero4Smash You’re not responding anymore, so I guess I win

[@pawelzawrotniak3826]

comparing scott's pfp to fucking swastika just defines overexaggeration

[@LilKingKeith]

Props to you for taking the time to make this video and having to go back through all these horrible/stupid controversies. Unfortunately it seems like as the fandom got bigger the drama piled on more and more 😅🤦🏾‍♂️

[@PhoxphorusKitKat]

Amongst all the revelations made regarding people in 2020 and onwards, it's crazy to me how the issue of calling real life businesses is a repeating trend with this fanbase. I'm including the FNAF ARG situation in here too despite that also being Game Theory's audience but point stills stands. How has this fanbase not learned the lesson to not do that?

[@SCP-469]

Scott Cawthon is a stronger man than me. All this secondhand embarrassment would CRIPPLE me mentally lol

[@haileyelliott3676]

The popular fnaf youtuber "Andiematronic" actually played five nights at haunted house and said the following: 'oh my gosh this is real, this is a REAL missing girl, she was only 14 years old when she was kidnapped and stabbed to death, this is absolutely disgusting! You can't just throw articles of real tragedies into your crappy ripoff fnaf game! Not to mention, 2 of them, the next picture is another woman who really went missing, was later found dead, and was the mother of two very young children, all of this for your moronic stupid ass died in a fire nonsense that doesn't even make sense! Why would they be missing people if they passed away in a fire?! And now they are saying these two lovely ladies are now GHOSTS HAUNTING THIS GAME?!?! I'm sorry but I'm not giving this game a second more of our time, game creator, if you're out there, clean up your act and grow some respect.'

[@Jerryisntthecodgod]

yeah that is super fucked up, using a murdered person's likeness for your cheap cash grab terrible horror game is honestly disgusting and just makes me disappointed in humanity. It actually reminds me of that one Markiplier video where he played a cheap Indie game and in the game it showed two pictures, one of a person who's head had been degloved, basically meaning the skin on and around their head had been taken off, and the other of a body that had been sawed in half and the organs removed. And then after the video came out mark got backlash for it like it was his fault or something. Despicable

[@haileyelliott3676]

@@Jerryisntthecodgod yeah!!

[@that_60s_brachiosaurus]

I think there was more about the whole PinkyPills controversy: she drew a comic about William having an addiction with children having a cut (a little girl)

[@PersonianOld]

In my opinion, I like Security Breach. I did not like Afton coming back either, but it feels better now that Burntrap is confirmed to not be Afton (same with Glitchtrap) and is, in fact, a Mimic endoskeleton running a mimic program, that mimics what it sees. The animatronics run this program as well, that is why they develop such human personalities. So no, Glitchtrap is not Afton, same with Burntrap. The canon name to those s The Mimic. I just had to throw that out there real quick. Burntrap/Glitchtrap is not Afton and Afton is busy chilling out in his own hell. Though putting all the bugs and glitches aside, you can still tell that Steel Wool put all of their heart and soul into the game. I mean, just look at the Pizzaplex! Even with 90% of it being cut out, that thing is still gigantic and is easily one of the best parts (if not THE best part) of the entire game). *Also, The Mimic controversy should kind of be in this video because some people absolutely hate the revelations the books have given that Gregory is 100% Patient 46 and that Burntrap is not Afton, sparking TONS of debate online* But yeah this was an enjoyable watch 100%

[@Wizardjones69]

At least mimic have good taste when to choose to copy springtrap design instead of jimmytrap design lol

[@sillyfella2009]

The TheftKing controversy is incredibly fucking stupid. He let his emotions get the better of him and the FNaF community is acting like he slaughtered a whole village

[@ciarandaragh8676]

Homie lost it over a fucking rickroll & a donation. Get a fucking life theft

[@xenom2.0]

Disco Elysium man

[@WiFiDown37811]

do I smell a Theft King apologist? not only did Theft assist someone in breaking his NDA with _Scott_ and be a dick about it when asked to remove it, he lied about Kane Carter to his like 200k subscribers and tried to paint Kane as this harasser and liar, and when he was called out on it, he decided to be extremely manipulative and cry like an actual man child. _THEN_ he went out of his way to lie and harass much smaller content creators like SleepLIVE because he didn't like that they had criticisms about him. not to mention he lowkey defended Fiszi, an actual fuckin pedophile, getting butthurt over people celebrating that a pedophile was booted off of the official FNAF team. the guy is a fucking scumbag

[@doesthisIookinfected]

It's also weird how people use their feelings towards Theft after the Kane situation as a justification to steal Theft's personal info and blackmail him.

[@xenom2.0]

@@doesthisIookinfected and then people said it was morally exceptable when it never is

[@CoralReaper707]

I remember a top ten gaming channel video covering Fnaf creepypastas. The thumbnail had a so called "White Bonnie" on it. The thumbnail had an image of Bonnie at the left door that had the saturation and brightness modfied until Bonnie looked super pale. In classic clickbait fashion, White Bonnie wasn't mentioned anywhere. Needless to say, I was pretty disappointed because "The White Bonnie" probably doesn't even exist as a creepypasta. It would make for a pretty interesting one, though.

[@funni-guy_scpdev]

Literally right after Layer 1 was finished the first text i saw in the Layer 2 image was "So Many Guards I Can-"

[@Dr_Heavy]

48:14 I mean the biggest reason why they are probably blacklisted from the fanverse is that disney would crucify scott if he added them to the fanverse for a treasure island game

[@whitesabbath6581]

Making a 84 minute video on the entire controversies of FNaF proves how toxic and unsafe this community is.

[@The-King341]

Hey we aren't all bad.

[@braedenmclean5304]

It’s almost like a series about an insane person murdering dozens of Children in horrible ways attracts a really weird crowd or something

[@obambagaming1467]

@@braedenmclean5304 this is also the case for Attack on Titan. At a certain point there are some characters that become genocidal fascists. Now the community has such people as well

[@seanmarley3598]

i mean perfect Fandom doesn't exist cause every single fandom is always toxic and denial biased

[@The-King341]

@@seanmarley3598 true but we're still not as bad as some people make us out to be... At least some of us

[@Grancop00]

“Squimpus McGrimpus grooming allegations” is such a wild sentence to me

[@kwayneboy1524]

It silly when you say it out loud like a muppet or a Wiggles character is facing allegations amd jail time.😂

[@MontyMoleLoreMaster]

Some of these controversies are minor, while others are beyond disgusting and illegal, but overall every fandom has it’s bad apples, but that doesn’t mean the whole fandom is bad just because bad people like Jonochrome, Nicchi, and Squimpus exist (even if they were originally well respected).

[@floofyyy]

Honestly i find Security Breach's flaws and overwhelming mass of bugs (specifically talking about the release build) quite endearing, I don't think i would have enjoyed it half as much as i do if it weren't totally broken.

[@Bitmuffin326]

"So why are you 30x the legal alcohol limit?" "I took a shot every time he said fnaf"

[@duckmcduckerson1957]

The uhyeah controversy sucked so much, just because the man had an opinion. Furthermore, it wasn't even a crazy opinion. He just disliked a game.

[@DiamondBatToons]

It hurts to see so much controversy come from a fun franchise's fanbase. I even get second-hand embarrassment knowing that Mr. Cawthon himself has to deal with this too. Also, the FNaF vs. VivziePop situation was straight-up HILARIOUS to me, considering I'm part of BOTH fandoms 😂

[@Cloudymuffinz]

Great video! Im a little suprised you didnt include the disaster that was Blueycapsules, since the drama and backlash it caused on twitter when it got cancelled was huge

[@francyisanid1ot106]

I always say "even a good fandom have his toxic side" omori and fnaf are my favorite videogames and even if i consider them good games their fandoms aren't perfect, no fandom is safe from the toxicity unfortunally but people can make the fandom better if they want

[@MayMoment_]

YIIK > omori 🤮

[@francyisanid1ot106]

@@MayMoment_ oh wow i just wanted to make a comment about my two favorite games but apperantely there is always someone ready to harrass people that likes a game

[@Ness199X]

the mario fandom is pretty close to being a perfect fandom, you never really hear any controversy from that fandom

[@francyisanid1ot106]

@@Ness199X yeah the problem is nintendo itself that they are slowly killing all of their fandoms beacuse of removing fangames and not listening to their fans

[@Ness199X]

@@francyisanid1ot106 yeah

[@DjDeadpig]

I actually got the voice actor of Springtrap from the interview series on KZbin (voiced by Joder Love) to voice out an interaction between Afton and Garvey lol.

[@pandalenz6534]

was it good? that VA is amazing

[@DjDeadpig]

@@pandalenz6534it was his qna video from summer of last year.

[@JoeyDoesStuff1120]

Link?

[@budcat64xd88]

​@@DjDeadpigplase share link I need to hear it

[@DjDeadpig]

@@JoeyDoesStuff1120 kzbin.info/www/bejne/nJvRpJmsmJlpZ5Y

[@TheHeavenlyRestrictedCowboy]

Me sitting through an ENTIRE fnaf iceberg knowing damn well i got an essay due in an hour

[@goodynighty3926]

This was a good video, you explained the things well and the editing was good and it was nice that you didn't tell your opinion on these things. Gives the viewer to fully make their own opinions on the matter. Some of these things i didn't even know so it was nice but at the same time horrible to hear these things. Also the markiplier and kane drama was really stubid.

[@Juneipurr]

i just see kane as an asshole, that cant really be touched because of his community surrounding him, so he does whatever he wants

[@Pmwhybeesareverysilent]

Jonochrome makes me so sad. I loved all his games and all of his few KZbin videos. Riddle Transfer 2 was an amazing ending to an amazing series, and all of the ONAF games were both hilarious and scary in some aspects. It's such a shame to see it all turn out this way, and I do hope he gets help.

[@WolfieWolfProductions]

Just found this iceberg and thought I’d say I was Puggo Pizzeria’s plush editor mentioned around 47:22 in the video. That situation was a misunderstanding and I did receive payment for my work… I can’t really defend anything else said in his segment, but I thought I’d clear that up. Nice job on the video!

[@fnafgamer2469]

I knew of the FNaF ARG, but I didn’t know the full story about what happened in it. Holy shit why in the hell would someone think a person who died in 1987 might’ve had something to do with fnaf? It’s disgusting.

[@fnafgamer2469]

I edited this comment twice because I thought I saw a mistake in the first the first edit. :,) I’m an idiot.