$4 VS $1000 Knife Sharpener, Which One Is Better?

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Watch me live on twitch! www.twitch.tv/Tyler_tube $1000 sharpener - amzn.to/3BiUs9z $4 sharpener - amzn.to/3bcaZkY

[@miketorres3597]

California construction Channel said he is going to expose you this weekend and show you how to use a saw.

[@Parsa8237]

Bro read the instructions next time

[@fordevoGAME]

16 hours ago, videos only an hour old XD (I know he pinned it before publishing)

[@user-wz9ni5ft1m]

@@miketorres3597 kzbin.info/www/bejne/nnrCmmqHpb-gsK8

[@user-wz9ni5ft1m]

@@miketorres3597 he just posted it

[@Archphoenix1]

Have we tried sharpening a stone yet?I bet you would be amazed with how sharp obsidian can get and other stones

[@pdxnate3314]

You dont need to sharpen obsidian. It's already as sharp as a scalpel when flaked in to pieces.

[@lowlandgorrlia3p942]

@OPEN PAGE,,,,,, 👇😍 wtf

[@Bamm_Bamm420]

@@pdxnate3314 It’s actually sharper then a razor blade, some surgeons actual prefer obsidian blades over scalpels because how much more sharper and precise it is than a scalpel

[@darrelladams4188]

Tyler has wet stones. Check in the library to see if agree with his sharpening stones

[@RinIzanami]

I use my great grandfathers sharpening stone for my kitchen knifes, as long as you know how to do it right your knife will be really sharp

[@kfer9500]

Ceramic rods like in the $4 knife sharpener commonly vary from between 1,000 grit to 4,000 grit. Also, when you sharpen a knife it creates micro burrs that are harder to see and feel. That's why most people going for a razor edge finish the blade with a leather strop and some stropping/buffing compound. From my experience a good thorough stropping can take a knife from a "decent" cut through paper, to being shaving sharp on its own. If you get a strop, make sure you get one with a rougher almost "furry" (I guess) feeling to it on one side and then a smooth firm leather on the other.

[@gwc_garage]

When I began sharpening by hand I knew nothing but i still new that leather was a really great finisher and would use it without even realizing that was a normal thing that professionals did

[@kfer9500]

@@gwc_garage Sounds like you were farther ahead than you thought! When I first started I honestly had no idea, however even the cheapest of strops have given me great results. Even cheaper vegan leather has done the job lol.

[@gwc_garage]

@@kfer9500 yeah when I started I had one stone that I didnt know the grit of different sand papers and a file(only used for larger blades like machetes or really really dull knives) and a small strip of leather.

[@massrdmdoer7348]

yes

[@Ujiyo]

If you're in a pinch and need to realign just your cutting edge, you can use a leather belt. It'll do the trick. You can also in an emergency use window glass to put a crude edge on a knife. Glass is harder than steel.

[@dropdoc4927]

I have used this sharpener with great results in the low 100's. Pay attention to the burr and use the lightest pressure on the final stones but triple the passes. The steel of the knife also makes a difference.

[@seanmills7255]

Exactly. Those knives he is using are cheap n made from very cheap steel thats not gonna sharpen to a super fine edge. I wouldn't use that 1000 dollar tool on cheap blades. The 4dollar one is better suited to keeping that cheap steel usable. Now if u got some good Damascus kitchen blades or carry blades then yeah id use the better tool on them.

[@seanmills7255]

But that 1000 dollar tool is a sharpener. You still need to hone the edge after to get a razor fine edge.

[@GlorifiedGremlin]

There never WAS a burr lol he was going back and fourth instead of one side at a time

[@dropdoc4927]

@@GlorifiedGremlin there is generally a burr created no matter what procedure is used. This method minimizes it but he didnt reduce pressure at the end to effectively polish it off. I have seen a burr produced with this setup that is so thin it will alternate the side it lays on after each stroke. This is when the micro-burr gets finished off with a strop.

[@nolans3026]

the fact a $1000 sharpener isn't automated blows my mind

[@CemRakipsiz102]

auto sharpening < hand sharpening

[@timothyhall963]

You were doing it wrong you have to sharpen 1 side at a time until you get a burr on the opposite side then do it to the other side until there is a burr on the opposite side then gently remove that burr then progress to the next grit and repeat. I sharpen my broadheads for hunting by hand same procedure as above and I promise you my blades would hit 100 to 150 on that scale try it and see. Use a post it paper to test for burr.

[@lordcrayzar]

@@litigioussociety4249 a thousand dollar knife sharpener is for professionals who know what they are doing, not the average person.

[@t_c5266]

@@lordcrayzar professionals who know what they are doing use stones.

[@NickJayy212]

@Extremos the wicked edge is not designed to be a hobbyist's system. These are meant for people that either sharpen for a living, or depend on sharp knives day in and out.

[@ThornyPickled]

@@litigioussociety4249 that is a subjective perspective. Adding more buttons to an airplane cabin usually costs a lot more money, doesn't make it any easier. Expresso makers cost a lot because of the quality they give you not because of your ability to use them. Automatic cars are easier to use these days you could argue, but a mechanic would tell you they are much harder to maintain and repair.

[@KryptoKn8]

@@t_c5266 exactly my thoughts lmao

[@ZevVeli]

I think you hit the nail on the head with your final thoughts. The $1000 knife sharpener is definitely more aimed at specialists who have to sharpen a wide variety of blades and tools that may need fine adjustments to their angles. Additionally, it's been a while since I took inorganic chemistry, but IIRC there is a limit to how sharp you can make a blade based on its carbon content and I think that those particular blades aren't the highest quality in terms of edge retention.

[@NOREENULR50BMG]

I've put crazy edges on super cheap knives, they'll take an edge, but wont hold one. Almost any basic blade can take a mirror edge that'll show crazy results his knife sharpness tester, but they wont stay sharp with use. Getting a blade thats 55+HRC and it'll retain the edge much longer.

[@ZevVeli]

@@NOREENULR50BMG oh yeah. I remember once at a camp out my SPL sharpened a butter knife he found in the woods to razor sharpness

[@paulrawlinson8653]

Except, due to the design, the expensive knife sharpener doesn't put a consistent angle on the blade.

[@ExarchGaming]

He also still wasn't using it right in the end. which is why he got the result he did.

[@NOREENULR50BMG]

@@paulrawlinson8653 there's an adjustment to tighten the jaws, user error, not design flaw.

[@scottedwards9626]

I'm really pleased with this! It works like a charm kzbin.infoUgkxDcr-y2Pf6xdnrFHrSP7dl9kpKaCozcSQ Takes less time than my old electric sharpener because it can take more off the knife faster, and then it smooths out nicely with the finer grit polisher. I don't know how long it will last before the grit wears away, but I wouldn't mind having to replace it every once in a while.

[@DrSlick]

I can't wait on the update video when you've learned how to use the sharpener.

[@michaelleeper3649]

I would suggest a leather razor/knife strop to finish the sharpening.

[@xd-qi6ry]

I would say stropping isnt necessary and shouldent be used if you dont know what your doing, he doesnt even know how to use a whetstone or any stone properly

[@michaelleeper3649]

@@xd-qi6ry Nobody is perfect.

[@xd-qi6ry]

@@michaelleeper3649 exactly. And its not like hes tried to learn how to use them or read the instructions but thats his choice, i consider it as content but if he truly wants those accurate results its going to take much more.

[@EQINOX187]

You need to strop the blade as well to get the best from it to as the act of sharpening the blade creates a burr that degraded the final finish, with the cheap tool the burr is forced to be in the center and the ceramic helps to lessen the burr, on the $1000 kit when you sharpen it down to a fine edge you end up pushing the burr back and forth until it ends up on one of the sides, when you used a sharpening tool like the $1000 it is essential that you strop the blade to remove / align the burr

[@inibrius5380]

they make a strop and their own stropping compound as part of this kit, he jsut didn't get it.

[@bobbygetsbanned6049]

@@inibrius5380 For 1000 freakin dollars it should be INCLUDED in the kit, it's not his fault their cheap asses didn't even include everything you need to sharpen the knife. They decided to splurge and that 100% unnecessary Pelican case instead, shows how stupid they are.

[@inibrius5380]

@@bobbygetsbanned6049 i dunno if it's stupid or if they just understand the kind of person that's dropping a grand on a sharpening kit...it's either an 'avid home user' that has more money than sense or a professional knife sharpener that wants to pick and choose what additional stuff they get. Check out the Project Farm knife sharpener review, he's a lot more detailed about why this isn't worth the $$.

[@autumn5592]

You don't NEED to strop. If you sharpen properly there will be no burr. Strops aren't needed if you know how to sharpen, which you clearly don't.

[@inibrius5380]

@@autumn5592 Take a blade that you've 'properly sharpened'. test it's sharpness using one of the tools shown in the video. Then strop it and test it again. Then tell me it's not necessary. Even with a high-grit sharpening stone (10k+) you're not getting a perfectly smooth blade. A strop works to polish and align a blade after sharpening to get rid of any micro-imperfections for the best possible blade.

[@ytrfhytrrgjnbcf6840]

Your content has come so far. Still remember watching the flext tape strength and flex seal videos. Keep up the good work bro

[@PSNDeezNutzDrill]

I know there are several ways to improve the “sharpness’s” of a blade for sure. However what I think even one is forgetting is that he is comparing what’s in the box of a $4 dollar sharpener, vs a $1000 dollar sharpener. If you need something/anything else to get a good edge the $1000 dollar sharpener should include it. That’s it. He’s comparing the 2 in there ability to sharpen with what you get. Great video.

[@flatfingertuning727]

Many tasks require multiple tools to accomplish effectively, and higher-end tools are often sold "a la carte". Many $150 guitars come with straps, but many $5000 guitars don't, since it's much easier for a manufacturer to include a strap that would satisfy people buying a $150 guitar than one that would satisfy people buying a $5000 guitar.

[@smore94]

Nah, $1000 for a knife sharpener is insane.

[@DoraTheMFDestroya]

@@smore94 then you must never work in a trade. A single mill machine in our shops can run upwards of 80k. That's for one of the smaller precision kits as well. If you KNOW what you're doing, and you know HOW to do it, then you get tools to cover every need.

[@smore94]

@@DoraTheMFDestroya Comparably, what I'm telling you is that if I buy a car for $50k the thing better come with wheels and tires, specially in today's economy. People think too much of their products, stuff is ridiculous. I'd rather "get by" with a few polishing and sharpening stones than buy either one. Yes, I've worked trades. I spent 20 years of my life on our farm. We just didn't waste money.

[@natethegreat3194]

Everyone go get a manscape razor So we can support Tyler’s poor financial decisions

[@SnipeCellyBoys]

I’ve bought man scape products in there absolutely terrible! You can I get a close shave with them and they also nick your skin still! Don’t ever buy their products!

[@curbotize]

Every single electric razor I've owned, do NOT feel nice in the scrotal region. Not worth the pain.

[@gwc_garage]

I went ahead and ordered one just cause I needed a new trimmer and figured I'd check it out and support Tyler at the same time

[@gwc_garage]

@@curbotize you just got sensitive balls mate I've always used an electric trimmer for that area works better than a regular razor

[@curbotize]

@@gwc_garage I mean that is plausible. The razor just takes so much time and patience. (also been there done that) if you catch my drift.

[@epicdillweed]

Turned down the volume as soon as I saw that cinder block. Love these videos. This is probably my favorite KZbin channel along with project farm. Thanks for taking your time to upload these.

[@Nirrrina]

I did too & I'm not even a big fan of knives.

[@brianm6117]

As he started the cinder block I thought to myself, he HAS to use ear plugs when does that, doesn't he?

[@frankdavis313]

I know most folks don't care but any "sharpener" that uses carbide isn't actually sharpening your knife its stripping metal off the bevel the reason it feels sharp is because it basically turns the edge into a saw

[@emoose92]

You need to “break in” a wicked edge. The adhesion process leaves excess grit on each plate. The excess grit makes the rating lower than marked until broken in. Your 1000 grit stone unbroken in is probably closer to a 500. Sharpen 20 knives and then re-test.

[@bluej511]

Use a strop, burr is still on both knives.

[@Chromie21]

i was gonna say

[@dennisgibsonii6316]

Ya you gotta finish with some leather to align the burrs. Heck I use my leather belt or the case of the knife when I finish my knives

[@TheJAM_Sr]

Was gonna suggest the same thing.

[@bluej511]

@@dennisgibsonii6316 with some compound for extra shine lol.

[@QualityCarp]

I always see someone do this, but what does it actually do, i though only polishing.

[@alexlumley7777]

Use a strop it will get rid of the burr on the knifes making the test more accurate

[@bobbygetsbanned6049]

It won't make it more accurate since neither included a strop. Adding additional sharpening accessories to the sharpening kit makes exactly zero kit. Hell add a blade smith to the kit to get the most accurate results while you're at it.

[@autumn5592]

You don't need to strop, you can remove the burr by sharpening properly.

[@imcrummy6114]

@@autumn5592 yes if you move up in grits and get to polishing you really don’t need to stop but he didn’t do that he used a coarse stone only so you def need to strop

[@autumn5592]

@@imcrummy6114 No you don't. You can easily deburr on a 400-800 grit stone. (Takes a bit longer to learn the control, but in a system, takes all the skill out of it.)

[@kanmeridoc1784]

As tons of others have said, you forgot to remove the burs. There's a few ways to do it, but I'm not gonna go into that. What I will say though, I've got a little Lansky set that runs on the exact same principles as the wicked edge, but was something like $20. I can get cheap pocket knives sharp enough to clear arm hair in about 20 minutes or so. The sharpening, not the shaving part :P Never really timed myself. Now the highest grit stone on that set is also a 1000 grit I believe.

[@slick3129]

This $1K system is remarkably similar in concept to my $50 Lansky sharpener (without the huge steel base). I bought the $10 accessory base mount and bolted it to my tool bench.

[@PorchPotatoMike]

Check out the Gatco system. Similar price but with better/wider stones and the rods don’t have the tendency to twist like with the Lansky.

[@KnifeNinjaEDC]

Except better everything. And it actually holds a consistent angle

[@jax3695]

@@KnifeNinjaEDC yeah no shit, it’s a thousand dollars lmao

[@johnbouldin9033]

I bought the Lansky Deluxe with the clamp and tabletop mount. Complete waste of money. I've tried making only 10 passes with each grit as well as 40 passes with each grit. Doesn't make a difference. I let my son-in-law borrow it and he couldn't get it to sharpen his knives.

[@ohioknifelover]

I use the KME System and it's about $300 and I get results just as good as the Wicked Edge. Just my experience though. I highly recommend when you're using the Wicked Edge to take your time on the lowest grit before jumping to the next one. You can take a piece of paper while it's still in the base and drag it across the edge to see which spot needs more work. I'm not going to say you used it incorrectly because you used it right. It just takes more experience with it Tyler! I've gotten edges on my Lansky system the got a 50 on the Bess Tester

[@LargeNuts]

I get just as good results with my 60 dollar Lanksy system haha. But the wicked edge is easier to use and will prob last longer.

[@ohioknifelover]

@@LargeNuts Same! I love the Lansky and I believe I have a video about what all I have put into that system so far

[@DeWin157]

I do the paper drag while still in the clamp myself, it helps tremendously to always find that one trouble spot every knife seems to have.

[@Mister_Ess]

I love my lansky and get similar results.

[@ricshome1]

I also have the KDE and I finish off with leather strop with very good results

[@JohnFleshman]

Your desharpener AKA the cinderblock hurts my soul as a hobby knife maker. love these videos. I have an older model wicked edge with just 2 of the courser stone sets and get knives sharper than any other system Ive used. I need to get the really fine set some day. Stropping the blade after the sharpening is done will make it much better. .

[@Nirrrina]

For a grand you'd think that it would include a good strop & instructions on how to use it properly.

[@Vistal11]

@@Nirrrina it has instructions. But Tyler never reads them.

[@DeWin157]

I have had a $400 Wicked EdgeUSA system for ten years now and love it. In reality you really don't need to go above 1K grit, it gets super scary sharp, as long as you keep to a consistent angle. I keep my kitchen cutlery at 23 degrees, restaurant industry standard is 22.5, so a half degree up is good enough for me. As for my hunting and pocket knives, I put them at 20 degrees. One pointer I would advise is to sharpen down, not up. As for the carbide pull through, toss it, over time it will damage your blade edges, much quicker than people realize.

[@davidblalock9945]

First he talks about the “cringe worthy task of dulling the knives” and then starts talking about Manscaped. Had me scared there for a second…

[@Chromie21]

you diidnt use a strop for both of the knives. they need to have the extra burrs cleared for them to have any good results

[@bobbygetsbanned6049]

Then the sharpening kits should include strops.

[@Chromie21]

@@bobbygetsbanned6049 they sharpen the knife, it’s still sharp but it’s way sharper with the strop, literally just use ur leather belt

[@bobbygetsbanned6049]

@@Chromie21 It's comparing the sharpeners, not the sharpeners plus other accessories you already have.

[@Chromie21]

@@bobbygetsbanned6049 exactly but to sharpen any knife really sharp and make the sharpener shine you need a strop

[@autumn5592]

You don't need to strop, deburr on the stones.

[@Jawsbyte01]

Interesting video! I'd personally like to see more comparisons between cheap and expensive products.

[@NobodysDarling138]

ive seen a lot of knife collectors and makers say this is really good, i think it just takes a bit of getting used to but once you get it down and stones are broken in, and you strop the blades, i think youll see a huge difference my friend. cheers!

[@tylerjohnston2308]

I always find myself looking at these videos and thinking. “this is going to be such a waste of my time to watch” but I always end up clicking on the video and I always end up watching all the way through. And I always end up being entertained. So kind of a backhanded compliment but whatever you’re doing is working.

[@LittleguyBigReviews]

Man that 1,000 knife sharpener looks beefy as hell 🤙

[@Justme-jt1ef]

@OPEN PAGE,,,,,, 👇😍 what that gotta do with anything are you that desperate n life??

[@blockofcheeze151]

@@Justme-jt1ef it's a bot with a virus

[@Justme-jt1ef]

@@blockofcheeze151 it’s annoying

[@Helicard]

A more expensive guitar makes you a better musician like a more expensive knife sharpener makes you a better chef

[@Digital-Dan]

A more expensive guitar (in my case, trumpet) in the hands of an amateur makes you sound like an amateur guitar (trumpet) player. At some point, the value of contained in the more expensive instrument begins to be elicited.

[@40SnWfan]

I 3d printed an Apex type knife sharpener. $4 in plastic, 2 8mm rods, a few bearings. Then I bought diamond stones that went up to 3,000 from amazon for $40. The stones had a 400, 500, and 600. I took the 500 and glued leather to it with Shoe Goo and clamped it between two pieces of steel to ensure it's flat and even. Fun project. After stopping I can hold a sheet of paper and with the middle of the edge cut into the flat of the page at about a 25° angle. I wish I could test it on a tester like yours. Just a cheap D2 knife.

[@savage101.]

What company would put out a $1000 sharpening system and not include leather strop attachments? They probably make them and charge an extra $100 for them. I can get a razor sharp finish with a $10 stone and my belt lol.

[@bobbygetsbanned6049]

Exactly, $1000 and a stop isn't even included so they can charge an extra $100 bucks for the fools stupid enough to waste even more money on a fancy Lansky.

[@MladenMijatov]

There are sharpening systems similar to that one in the range of 250$ which are much much sturdier and you get more stones. It's just a marketing piece where people think more expensive means better when in reality for that much money you could get a number of Shapton glass stones and have a razor worthy edge.

[@rlmartinmanor]

First tip..... Never test a blade with paper. Paper dulls a knife. Ask my wife if I can use her good sewing scissors for paper. She would shoot me for asking. She won't even cut near a tissue pattern with her good fabric scissors. Test before paper and see the difference.

[@thatstupidbunnysuit2648]

The amount of knife experts, and people who have this much interest in knives is surprising to me.

[@jonanderson5137]

It's a pretty big community. Seeing a dumb ass post time wasting garbage like this is great for comments.

[@autumn5592]

Pretty much the same for any hobby.

[@false-set]

It's like buying a really nice violin then playing Metallica using a bread clip as a plectrum.

[@jessiegollihugh6414]

Great video Tyler. I'm curious what sharpening the blade at the minimum vs the maximum angle would be like on the $1000 sharpener.

[@robohippy]

Most of my woodshop is dedicated to my wood lathes. We seldom sharpen past 1000 grit for the skew chisel. Bowl gouges generally in the 180 to 600 grit range. A 1000 grit stone still leaves a noticeable burr on it, which has to be honed off on a leather wheel with polishing compound. If you don't hone that burr off, the skew chisel will cut fine in one direction, but not in the other. Don't understand why there are not diamond stones available in grits over 1000 grit. With abrasives/sand paper, the grits are done by electrostatic charges to pick up the grit, which is far better than sifting. Take your $1000 sharpened blade and a leather strop to remove the burr, and it will match the other cheap one. I would guess that the burr is pretty much gone with a 6000 to 8000 grit hone/strop. Carvers have multiple honing/stropping compounds to get even the tiny bit of a burr off.

[@yogi_minnis]

Here is the thing being a chef myself and have a huge love for knifes from cooking knifes to every day carry .. even though yes you used a $1000 sharpener you still need to use a honing steel to finish the fine tuming of the blades edge . I have used sharpeners that are upwards of $10,000 and I still at the end had to use a honing steel to get the fully desired edge . I have also used a $2 sharpener and gotten close results . Just one takes less time than the other to do . The only sure true way to get the sharpest edge without using a honing steelcis to use a grit that is so fine upwards of 10,000 grit wet paper also known as micro mesh or even a ceramic stone to hone it down to perfection . You can use the bottom of a ceramic coffee mug or even a bowl or plate with a lip on it . Or you can even use the ceramics off a spark plug as well or even use the back of another knife as well .

[@autumn5592]

You literally have no fucking idea what you're talking about.

[@shifteey]

this just goes to show it doesn't matter how much you spend on a sharpening system if you don't even know the fundementals of creating a bur.

[@paulrawlinson8653]

With the stone running along the blade you don't need to create a bur, nor are you particularly likely to. A burr is not essential to sharpening a blade, but when your sharpening motion is perpendicular to the blade you are highly likely to create a burr. Very hard steels are less likely to form a burr, but will still become super sharp

[@jamesstewart9970]

The diamond stones have to be broken in on the wicked edge, you’ve also got to check for burr development, it’s a learning curve but it can get down to the 130 range with just the 1000 grit stones if you are patient enough.

[@suckitrebels6675]

Ceramic help makes the blade edges smoother by knocking down the burs while also being a high grit sandpaper more or less. Also can you do a work sharp comparison i have one of them that sharpens my knives really well

[@FirstLast-vr7es]

I use a leather strop belt with green jewelers rouge on a cheap belt sander. (After first using a regular 3-stage whetstone) It'll get a good knife so sharp that I can literally shave my face with it. I'd maybe use that $1000 job if I was sharpening wicked expensive Japanese knives or something, but I'm not that bougie.

[@xd-qi6ry]

Even then i'd take a stone over it any day

[@eatingtomatoswhy3510]

Can you do this again but remove the burr please?? Also instead of doing one side after the other in succession try sharpening one side completely then the other, after removing the burr.

[@Kingkhyros]

I like how the cricket and the background wanted to put his 2 cents in on which sharpener is better🦗😂

[@shirkit5798]

So, to sum it all up: to my kitchen, I'll never spend over $20 on ANY utensil to sharp a knife.

[@VindictiveMoose]

That Nanuk Case is about $200 on it's own for the Wicked Edge Knife Sharpener.

[@WilhelmWilder]

Cue all the people saying "you still didn't do it right!"

[@theripper501_9]

He literally said to tell him what he did wrong

[@evaneasterwood9896]

But. He did lmao. We're all human though. Can't expect Tyler to know everything. Unless it's about flex tape/glue. Lol. Knife sharpening is a long process with many steps aside from what he has done here.

[@codyclem7928]

@@evaneasterwood9896 it literally tells you exactly what to do...

[@Mr.Belding]

The comment section on this channel is getting quite toxic towards Tyler at times.

[@WilhelmWilder]

@@Mr.Belding for REAL, its sad. He's such a nice person. I've talked to him personally many times. I feel like he doesn't give a shit though lol

[@Jiross]

The scale your using to test the sharpness has two types of ways to rig it up. One is premade wire clip things and the other is where you yourself wires it up, if you're using the later option your going to get obscure results cause you might set it up different everytime. DBK on KZbin talks about this on one of their videos and gives an example

[@TheDarinseng]

Simply didn't establish the initial bur needed to make sure the apex of the edge was fully defined. I myself only do my first 2 grits where I do a single side until I develop a bur then switch sides checking for the same bur followed by about a couple dozen alternating strokes. After those initial 2 grits, I simply alternate all remaining stones grits as I am confident that the apex edge is already achieved. Like others have said, ~150 on the tester is my norm at 100grit or so. I have much finer grits and strops and most of my personal knives and a select few friends, I normally shoot for 75-90 or so on my test results. I have some super steel EDC's that have 14degree edges that test in at 45-65. When I first started I made that same mistake of not getting a proper bur where my test results would be in the 300 range. Immediately after I realized it I went back, got the burs, then finished in the ~100 range. Its a huge difference. My guess is the second attempt Tyler made just got it closer to a bur but still missed it by a bit thus it improved but was not a spectacular result.

[@bullridermusic2054]

YESSS!!!!! finally, not an idiot on here. This guy should not be doing these tests.

[@ajflament8012]

idk that $1000 sharpener took the knife back to near "factory" sharpness started at 400 before duliing it, then finished at 430 after sharpening it

[@jonanderson5137]

Haha! You don't get tools like this to get near factory. You get this to make factory edges look like shit.

[@rolar321]

The knife sharpener for $ 4 gives the knife a raw edge, a sharpness that quickly disappears. The one for $ 1000 gives a more durable edge. But you made a mistake, you have to finish grinding on one side before grinding the other side. That is, you should not grind right, left, right left ...

[@MaNNeRz91]

I like the way Tyler leans towards the pointy knife while showing us how it works 😆😆😆

[@PolskiChuj69]

Projectfarm did this and his knives reached 100 on the scale with the wicked edge

[@brendanberry7403]

Comparing someone with experience to someone who is completely clueless. Projectfarm sometimes also makes mistakes, like his chainsaw videos were ridiculously badly done, but he puts so much effort into testing that you can either tell he's messed up or see that he's done some rock solid testing. I mention the chainsaw videos because if you watch the first one, on some of the saws he had the chains so lose you could put your arm through them. So nothing he did was accurate. Second test I noticed he edited the videos so you couldnt see that like the first one. So I do not take his testing as perfect and no one else should either. It's all prone to human error. Difference for me is, I don't think projectfarm is proud of his goofs, vs this guy seemed to be proud with his insane lack of experience and knowledge.

[@Mr.Gottfried]

10$ knife... a good quality knife on a wicked edge gets crazy sharp, even with 1000 grit. Strop the blade after sharpening and practice a bit more, then u will get amazing results. Any sharp knife will cut paper, but only a properly sharpened knife will cut paper smoothly along the hole edge. I use the paper cutting only to tell me about imperfections in the cutting edge and not to measure sharpness.

[@shaneh7519]

If both knifes are the same, then they’ll both have a fair chance.

[@Nirrrina]

I wonder what it would do to a Dollar Tree knife? I'm wondering if there'd even be anything left of the knife after the good sharpener got through with it.

[@angelbanuelos3767]

I bought one of these last week and man... It was nothing like this guys video.... This was just cringe to watch now that I have experience. Like he didn't even read the instructions..... or use good steel.... I'm just like what.... what... Was that???

[@LargeNuts]

This has to be user error! No shit lmao. That sharpening system is well known for being amazing in the knife community, especially for beginners. Just watch any of the reviews out there. Also wait til he learns about using a strop lmao. He isn't even taking off the wire lmao.

[@jeffp7368]

why doesn’t it include one?

[@vooshmoozik6185]

@@jeffp7368 usually on purpose to make you purchase it separately

[@savage101.]

@@vooshmoozik6185 A $1000 system better damn well come with a $5 strop attachment.

[@UnfitToLive]

I bought a new bushcraft/carving knife recently and after a fair few hours of (mainly) carving, just using a strop for 5 minutes got the blade sharper than when it arrived.

[@Ardeact]

The price of the sharpener doesn't matter, rather the technique is most important. A professional with a 50 dollar whetstone set can easily make shaving sharp.

[@OverUnity7734]

16:12 Doesn't it get dull when you cut the paper ? You measured the sharpness after cutting the paper .

[@jonanderson5137]

Only if it has terrible edge retention. Once he starts cutting toilet paper cleanly or unsupported phone book paper or cutting hair without touching skin, then the paper will start to negatively affect its performance. He's basically wielding a dull knife.

[@Zachariahfml]

Definitely user error. You need to strop both for starters and also the diamond stones on the wicked edge aren't broken in. Use a tool drawer liner and use that to lock the spine in solid in the vice to prevent movement. Also use a sharpie to verify you're properly apexing your edge. It's the user not the tool I have one and can guarantee you better results than this 😂

[@xd-qi6ry]

True but at this point i know its hard to not say anything and i feel the same way but its getting kinda toxic even though he says he doesnt care. Your 100% right they are quite simple rookie mistakes to make you would think after all these sharpening videos he would know what to do but you have to respect him for who he is

[@Zachariahfml]

@@xd-qi6ry I mean all he had to do was read the user manual. I lost respect for him when he started playing with high voltage like an idiot. He's going to get himself killed in the pursuit of views and I don't have respect for that 💯

[@SoulDelSol]

Maybe he's showing which is easier just out of the box for average person who doesn't know about this skill or read manuals. For those average people they'll fare better with cheap one because expensive one is too complicated for them.

[@Zachariahfml]

@@SoulDelSol 🤣 then that's user error not product flaw.

[@TheGrizzlyHillbilly]

I personally use a $15 WorkSharp Pocket Sharpener & a handmade Leather Strop with Super Fine stropping compound. So it starts on the Diamond Stone, then the Ceramic Rod & finished on the Leather Strop. I use that set up on every blade and follow the factory edge. The knives I use on the daily is a Victorinox Huntsman, Morakniv Eldris, Morakniv Kansbol, Morakniv Precision, Morakniv Spoon Knife. Other knives I own are Morakniv Filet, Leatherman Rev, Morakniv Rescue Knife, and a few cheapo back ups.

[@abalrog42]

For $1,000 I expect that knife to go through the paper like a surgical blade through Jello...

[@jonanderson5137]

Manual tool. Hand a guy a specialty hammer and a Walmart hammer and have him drive nails in a horizontal 2x4. Then give those hammers to a framer.

[@farsnip78]

Great videos, always nice to learn how not to use products correctly.

[@greedygamer319]

I just use some old grit sharpener

[@Condamine123456]

I love his face when he says hopefully we get our moneys worth basically saying this better be fucking worth it 😂

[@hotrodhunk7389]

Best free knife sharpener is just the edge of a car window. Get it razor sharp.

[@bunkie1850]

The wicked edge sharpener wasn't used properly. You've gotta get some practice with it and then it'll shine above the others. The ceramic stones and strops you can purchase also take it to another level of sharp. They work incredibly well. The biggest downfall is when sharpening the curve on blades. It doesn't keep the same angle as the blade drops to the point. I've owned one for years and sharpened hundreds of knives. It's surely better than a $4 sharpener. Get some practice, read a manual, watch someone else's KZbin of The Wicked Edge. You didn't do it justice.

[@Voytoy]

lol

[@bullridermusic2054]

I was kind of screaming in my head, he did not apex the edge first, up and down untill a Burr or wire edge. It's only then you move on to the high grits, this guy does not know what he's doing....ohhhh if only I had that thing. I had the Wicked Edge Go the cheapest, and got some of the sharpest edges I could not believe. Hair popping at its least.

[@TheSwitchbladeKiss]

Anyone else auto click as soon as you see a new TylerTube video?😂

[@TheSwitchbladeKiss]

@OPEN PAGE,,,,,, 👇😍 how about no 🤷‍♂️🖕

[@epicdillweed]

Definitely. I was in the middle of watching ProjectFarm testing out cheap vs expensive batteries and clicked as soon as I saw TylerTube pop up.

[@TheSwitchbladeKiss]

@Cutting Yoko’s Bra! 😂😂

[@Serron2k9]

$1000 knife sharpener requires some DLC for the full effect... BTW, I heard that the Lanskey sharpener is a very good sharpener.

[@lesscoRyden]

I have an edge pro knife sharpening system. It takes some skill to get it all figured out, but it does a fantastic job and is around $200. I use it mostly for kitchen knives but you can put a convex edge on something like a Tanto blade or a kukeri. You can even use it to sharpen up that sword

[@mikesilvey7141]

Please test the sharpness of the knife before you run it through the paper.

[@tayonnat]

Darn crickets

[@devinegamingtv3427]

I used to use Fiskars sharpener for years and it worked okay, some knifes worke dout really well, some not so much. Later I took a class in how to use whetstones, and it was the best thing I ever did. At the class I tested how good fiskars sharpened my knifes and it went around 400- 600grams. Using whetstones from 600grit up to 5000 grit I got a kitchen knife to only put 145 grams on the weight. If you want lazersharp knifes that will also work well on any Axe, Leatherman, Pocket knife and any house holde knife, use a WHETSTONE! You only need one stone to get started and a youtube guide, and I can promise that withing 2-3 hours you're all set to get a knife to atleast 500-600 grams of preasure. Now when you'te comfortable you can buy more expensive set of whetstone at higher grit rating and polish the edge for razorsharp edge. The reason I wanted to stop using Fiskars is that it cut too much material away from the blade. I used it on my kitchedn knife and it was "Okay" sharp, but it also wore down after 6-7 months of use 1/4th of the blade was gone. And Fidskars didn't work well with my smaller leatherman knife blade. I would rate Fiskars at 3/10 and my whetstones at 10/10.

[@winterweatherwind]

Hey Tyler, don't forget you also measured them at the beginning if that makes you feel better. $4 labeled knife: 555-230 = 325 $1000 labeled knife: 430-400 = 30

[@Butterflyknifes1]

You forgot to strop the knifes

[@autumn5592]

You shouldn't have to. Deburr on the stones.

[@OneBoomBox]

The Wicked edge isn’t for the faint of heart but I think it’s worth it. I wouldn’t let any of my knives come close to that 4 dollar sharpener especially when u have a couple that cost more than the wicked edge.

[@beardsntools]

such poor results for the price

[@slumbynature4557]

That little work sharp isn't bad for $4. I bought it a few months back for some old pocket knives that were obscenely dull to test out and wanted something cheap for my apparently new knife collecting hobby I've picked up from this channel and others. Definitely got it very sharp. I've gotten a better one since then. But if I remember correctly the packaging said it was for "outdoor survival yadda yadda" on it. I just threw it in my work bag now. I got the electric work sharp that Tyler used in his other videos and it I like it. For a beginner like me it'll give me some good practice and it was affordable.

[@get5killch3cked]

that was painfully funny to watch the $1k get smoked by a $4 sharpener

[@tjsynkral]

I use a double sided sharpening stone I picked up at Dollar Tree (so yep $1) and I think it works better than both of these.

[@TheProfessordank]

Got a Lansky guided sharpener for when my knives really need some work then finish up with a strop and green compound. Works well and its cheap.

[@kenlyons848]

We used to use the ceramic tubes used in 'Knob and Tube' wire insulators for final sharpening .

[@NevilleSidhu]

The wicked edge is a rip off, its way overpriced for what it is. I suggest the KME, much more budget friendly. If you want to go super budget, get the work sharp precision adjust. I personally like the KME. You also need to strop when done sharpening to get the sharpest edge. 1000 grit is enough to get razer sharp. Just takes practice and stroppping. Love your vids, keep them coming.

[@MrDanielrbales]

The paper test and the sharpness tester rely on your ability to evenly sharpen a knife. If you sharpen unevenly then you get bad results. The cheaper sharpener is less about technique so he is getting better results with it.

[@lukethesecond7]

was gonna binge anime, watched a yt vid to pass time until i was ready. binged this entire channel

[@solarx50]

Try to strop them. I have a basic version of the wicked edge and with the straps I get a hair splitting edge with a mirror polish.

[@thatguy3903]

The fancy expensive one looks cool, but it seems absolutely annoying to work

[@LoLbeautifulsorrowx]

Hell yeah. This gonna be a good Saturday

[@tayonnat]

@OPEN PAGE,,,,,, 👇😍 go somewhere else🤨

[@benjgoodell]

Tyler, you didn’t break in the stones properly to get the edge you’re looking for.

[@johnpensmith]

When i was in the Navy I learned how to sharpen a knife really well on the bottom of a ceramic coffe cup, It takes practice. But you can get a decent edge.

[@socastee_5.097]

Very clean slice yes mhmmmm . My reaction to the other one: hmm he smacked tf out of that one 🤣

[@markdudley3831]

Try finishing the sharpening process on the finest stones and lightly running them " leading edge sharpening " Rather than the Safe and recomended by the manufactures instructions " trailing edge sharpening " that you exhibited in this vid . I believe you have formed a burr and you're just pushing it from one side to the other with every sharpening stroke . Also wet (with water) the fine stones when finishing the sharpen that will further reduce the aggressiveness of the stones .... 65 yrs old ... 52 yrs sharpening on oil stones experience ... Cheers from New Zealand

[@bennyhillman4987]

Haven’t seen one of your vids in a while, just wanted to say you look awesome, Tyler is love Tyler is life

[@DarrenMalin]

my Grandfather showed me how to sharpen tools and knives using a glass plate and wet and dry papers of different grades. Does a great job :)

[@jonanderson5137]

This is called the "scary sharp method" for anyone interested.

[@dhammer73]

You should test the blades on the tester on 2 points to see if there are any differences between the front part of the blade and the back.

[@mattthemouse1]

I keep a work sharp in my kitchen drawer. The edge honer (ceramic) can make keeping your cheap or had me down knives cutting like a much more expensive knife. Best investment I ever made.

[@explosive_shart9405]

I used to have this thick cylinder light tube from the late 80s or early 90s and my dad said it was a great sharpening stone. I carried it with my boy scouts knife until it broke in my pocket.

[@mCblue79]

That $1k sharpener seems VERY unnecessarily overcomplicated.

[@GlorifiedGremlin]

They had an industrial sharpener at the resturaunt I cooked at, and we sharpened them twice a day. I watched a kid chop the entire tip of his finger off. The whole tip was hanging by a flap of skin

[@gnic76]

I use a couple water stones, if I want to polish the edge up more then I have found 1500-3000 grit wet/dry sandpaper works. Costs way less than $1000-$1200

[@xd-qi6ry]

A very friendly way of getting rid of the burs is to lightly run the edge along the angle of some wood 2 or 3 strokes even 1 it smoothens out the blade and gives you a cleaner edge be careful not rough we dont wanna blunt it, however if you know how to use a strop thats what you wanna use.

[@adamdeutsch7428]

At first I thought you filmed with a toaster then I remembered that I have a crappy phone. Thanks Tyler!