What makes EV tires different, and why should you fit them! 🔌

[@SteveLBMK]

Don't have an EV and no immediate plans to buy one. Watched anyway because your content is always so interesting 👍👍👍

[@seansimpson4472]

Can I ask why? I'm seriously considering an EV as my next car probably a tesla 3 or Jag I-pace as there more in my budget. But trying to gather opinions and data to help.

[@themadjock1977]

@@seansimpson4472 Don't worry what Steve or anyone else thinks, if an EV will work for you then go for it. From my point of view, I've had an Ioniq 28 kWh for three years and it’s been great. If those cars are in your budget I'd recommend the Tesla Model 3 or wait a little longer for the Model Y which has a hatchback and massive space. The Jag is not as efficient or technologically advanced but still lovely inside. Try both.

[@tahsin28]

Thats everyone bruh. Like everyone.

[@SteveLBMK]

@@seansimpson4472 I thought I had posted a lengthy reply, but perhaps there was a technical glitch. Just to say that an EV is not for me because I do occasional long journeys to the in-laws of 100 miles plus and the combination of range anxiety and inadequate charging facilities puts me off. Having said that, if I did only short journeys, an EV would make very good sense, simply install a charger at home. Guy Martin did an excellent programme on this, on Channel 4, when he looked at setting a new speed record with an EV. Worth watching.

[@bdeithrick]

Neanderthal

[@ndc5544p]

I would like to see an array of tires tested on EVs, summer, winter and all-seasons. Preferably on a car that's got a more wider appeal than an Audi eTron, something like a ID.3, Zoe or a Tesla.

[@seanpeacock5595]

Wider appeal like a Zoe? 😂

[@Maxzor11]

@@seanpeacock5595 😂

[@tyrereviews]

working on it

[@glashman]

@@seanpeacock5595 Yes, a Zoe, for those people who want to dip their toe into the world of EV's, but haven't got £40k+ to spend.

[@gaara4667]

@@seanpeacock5595 can you afford a Taycan?

[@Kowen8714]

Well, now I know why my Polestar 2 lost ~10% of range after upgrading to Pilot Sport 4s. As for EV vs ICE - I'm a petrolhead as well, shunned diesels all my life, but the reality is that the better EVs are better than ICE in almost every way, except noise/emotion. But that's what project/weekend cars are for :) Getting 0-60 times of 4.7s and "consumption" that's equivalent to 2l/100km of diesel is a pakcage many dreamed of. And since moat new ICE cars are already heavy, the extra battery weight isn't even that bad...

[@mikeicee]

LOL Michelin Pilot Sport A/S Plus decrease my gas E350 Benz by 12%. Many BMW people say the same.

[@ZesPak]

My Model S came with Michelin Pilot Sports installed...

[@jpmkiv]

See if you can the "TO" tesla optomised P4s in your seize!

[@jpmkiv]

@@mikeicee Yea they suck on my Tesla, but better than the 20' ps4 factory tires after broken in on 18in. Wearing fast also.

[@mikeicee]

@@jpmkiv When I had 18inch AMG wheels on my car the rears were wider and it cost like $500 a year. What a joke.

[@DasHalbblut]

Amazing test as always, Jonathan. Even when you do not have access to a test facility, you do a fantastic job of making the comparison as scientific as possible.

[@tyrereviews]

Thank you, appreciated!

[@breezeracing8015]

Would be good to see a winter/all season EV tyres test. It's great to get into pre heated defrosted car in the winter. The extra weight, and instant low down torque can make winter conditions tricky though.

[@JackPriddle]

Second this 👍

[@Maxzor11]

Yes please!

[@Ficon]

Extra weight helps with traction off the line although yes, you have to contend with momentum when turning and braking. Torque is actually a non-issue because EVs can instantly adjust torque output at the motors as opposed to a regular car that has to use brakes to slow down the slipping wheels while the engine is still trying to turn them. It's far less dramatic when you floor an EV on a slippery road.

[@MrAdopado]

I live in Scotland and use Goodyear Ultragrip winter tyres on my rear wheel drive only Model 3 SR+. To my amazement the car turned out to be staggeringly good in winter conditions (excellent weight distribution and traction). Certainly much better than proper 4x4 vehicles that haven't put on winters (on tarmac).

[@tfat00]

It snowed here last winter right after I got my Tesla, so I took it to an empty parking lot and tried to do doughnuts but the traction control was so precise I couldn’t lose traction even if I floored it and full turned. I was quite impressed

[@Alex11Magic]

How soon do you reckon the All Season comparison will be out? I am set for this year and the one to come, but I find that your videos also have some entertaining value, so I like watching them even when I am not in the market for new tyres :) Also, reaaaally looking forward to see how my Vectors 3 compare to the CC2

[@tyrereviews]

Next monday!

[@Beorn.]

On the strength of a previous review from here I bought Michelin Crossclimate tyres for my current car and they have been great. I will certainly be fitting the cc2's next time.

[@TollyTolly]

Yes, that what I want to see, as in UK we have very mild winter, but still a bit of snow, can't see any reason to go for winter tyres, but all season can be an option

[@fredrikalfson1541]

All season tires is a marketing scam. There are summer tires, and then there are winter tires with or without studs.

[@dufonrafal]

Loved it ! Learned a few things :) With all those EV tyres becoming available a big test with a comparison to their counterpart is necessary! :) Also, a dedicated test of “ultra low rolling resistance tires” such as EcoContact 6 and e•Primacy please :)

[@tyrereviews]

Both are on the list, just takign some time to plan!

[@oldschoolman1444]

Stiff sidewalls have less lateral wash and lower roll resistance. I had a set on my little car and loved them. I don't like the one's I have now and wish I would have put the tires I had on before.The tires I liked weren't ev tires but same concept.

[@kkal1183]

I have a performance Tesla Y with EV specific performance tires. I was always curious about the difference. The performance is unreal and unlike and ICE vehicle I've owned.

[@haileybenson9714]

Such a thorough explanation of everything, as the video continued I found myself having questions and then you answered them all! Such a good test!

[@aarons4205]

I love the diversity in the reviews. I have a PHEV for getting around with the family and feel that it is the way to go for that situation.

[@jwenting]

In other words, as usual: fit the recommended tyres to your car, the manufacturer knows what they're doing when they recommend those.

[@TheCloudhopper]

Unless they are made by Nexen. Than throw them off the car IMMEDIATELY.

[@loungelizard836]

He also said that the manufacturer will screw it up: Ford putting skinny tires on the Mach-E hoping to get a higher range number but changing it from a "Sports Car" to an Economy Box with crappy handling in the process.

[@RAM-BAWN]

Unless it's a truck with P rated tires.

[@93masterchief]

Also there was the whole Ford Firestone thing

[@custommotor]

@@RAM-BAWN I think that really depends on what you're using the truck for. It's perfectly fine to run p rated tires on a truck if you're not really hauling anything for it. You know the people that buy it just because they might go get some bags of mulch from Lowe's once a year. If you're only putting 500 lb in the bed or even a thousand I wouldn't worry.

[@davidellis1355]

Great content as always ... I've been waiting for this, as recently bought an Leaf and fitted some efficient grip 2's and so far I've been happy with the choice, it's about 1000kg lighter then the e-tron so hopefully will be ok

[@tyrereviews]

Great choice!

[@ahmadrtube]

Rolling resistance is a function of (tire design and) deformation, which is a function of the contact patch which is mainly a function of weight and tire pressure (the sidewall being a small contributor). Therefore, even on a gas car, the rolling resistance gains of using an EV tire are real. Of course, as gas cars have way more losses all round, the relative impact of tire rolling resistance is small

[@ms-jl6dl]

It's 5%.

[@Xenon0000000000001]

I like this because it shows how it's all about the engineering.

[@gery4870]

Superb video mate !! That is what I was waiting for !! LOVE IT !! Greetings from Barcelona :) PD. As an ID.3 owner, I also have EV tires fitted ;)

[@Lollakuk]

Which ones?

[@commuterbranchline8132]

As a VW id3 owner, every little helps.

[@ChrisSidwellSmith]

Thanks for doing this video. EV owner here who moved from Michelin OEM EV tyres to Bridgestone Weather Control A005 EVO based upon your earlier All Season test. Your comments echo with what I've experienced over the last few months after switching from an dedicated EV tyre to a non EV tyre. I'm glad I got XL, and I hope we get a dedicated All-Season/Crossclimate style EV tyre soon.

[@ChrisSidwellSmith]

Just looking at your Crossclimate 2 review, it might be next set if Volvo is using that as standard...

[@tyrereviews]

Michelin and Pirelli are solid choices for EVs

[@anidiotinaracingcar4874]

Putting this EV tire on a petrol car would still be an interesting (entertaining) test :-)

[@TheTallRaver]

A very interesting test! Was wondering about the difference for a while now! Thanks buddy!👍👍👍

[@tyrereviews]

glad you enjoyed it!

[@odjblue]

Citroën C4 come from the factory with e-primacy, in both ev and combustion version. Some combustion ones, come with the Goodyear EG performance.

[@ansv3340]

Citeoen is still making cars?>

[@Zak437]

Been waiting aaaaall year for this one!!! Super glad it's finally here.

[@pip5461]

Who would have thought that there was a difference... nice work, if or when I change to EV, I am now aware and will make sure I choose the appropriate tyres...

[@AndyC2_]

Amazing review once again 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 Cannot wait for the all season tyre comparison I think is coming 🤞🏼🤞🏼

[@tyrereviews]

ON MONDAY :D

[@enmirc9938]

I change the tires every two years but I watch all the episodes you do!

[@Nordlicht05]

My last winter tires lastet 7 years. I only drive up to 15.000km a year. The tüv and cracks between the profile of my Michelin tires where their death. Still had 4mm.

[@martin1649]

@@Nordlicht05 my summer michelins are the same!! DOT 15 and they're extremely cracked along the whole shoulder and inside, the whole thread! Thread is 4mm front and 4,5mm back

[@darreno1450]

Very helpful video! I'm about to get another set of tires for my Tesla and was contemplating going with non-EV ones, but your video have convinced me otherwise. Subscribed!

[@loungelizard836]

I was also a big-time gear-head. Always worked on my own cars and loved the technology of engines, gas or diesel. But when hybrids came along, I tried the Prius and that got me hooked on electric drive. Next was the Leaf, Volt, and now, Tesla. I won't ever go back to Fossil-powered cars. I now have time to use and enjoy my cars because I'm not always fixing them!

[@adityapanda2695]

Can you use carbon black in the tyres of electric vehicles because it helps to improve the strength of the tyres and it also absorbs the ultraviolet radiation

[@adityapanda2695]

Please give the answer of my question 🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺

[@esametsala3054]

Once again I have to say: Your analytic and easy to understand way to explain the differences are the best! So, Guru has spoken 😁👍🇫🇮🥇

[@tyrereviews]

Thank you :)

[@hugovgamboab]

Excellent video, very useful. One question? What about run-flat or N2 tires in EV ? Nice idea for your next video. Thanks, keep it up!!!!

[@mcdon2401]

My MG ZS EV was running Michelin Primacy 3 EV tyres, but I swapped them for a set of Hankook Kinergy 4S2s for the better performance in the lousy weather we had at the start of the year. Only difference in spec was a higher load index than what was originally fitted (95 v 91). Wear has been comparable to what I was getting with the same model of tyre on my old Golf estate, although I was carrying a bit of extra weight in the Golf at the time, so not quite a straight comparison. Economy hasn't been too bad, I did over 1000 miles on the original tyres, I've done close to 8000 on the new ones, and the figures are acceptable for me. I don't mind how long I'm charging for, I'd rather know I'll get to my destination no matter the weather 🤣

[@tyrereviews]

My first car was an MG ZR. Different times

[@ToySoldier060]

Great and informative video! Now I'm looking forward to seeing the Top EV Tire comparison!!

[@tyrereviews]

You and me both!

[@stevel1973]

Great video as usual, Jonathan. Very informative.

[@tyrereviews]

Glad you liked it!

[@loriallen67]

Thanks for the info. First EV on order. Looking forward to a quieter ride.

[@harveysoicher2522]

I really enjoyed your video its very informative thank you! I completely agree that an EV tire is better for an EV. I’ve owned my Audi e-tron for just over two years and I ordered the 19 inch Audi rim with the Bridgestone Alenza tire which is designed specifically for low rolling resistance. The EPA rated range for the E Tron with a 20 inch and all season tire is 204 miles or 324 km. With my combination of 19 inch rims and Bridgestone low rolling resistant summer tires I’m getting easily 350 km or more range this past year I’ve been getting up to 450 km of range a few times quite often 400 km. Bridgestone Alenza tires are great for range and amazing in dry and wet conditions. They are also super quiet and very comfortable as they have a much higher profile than a 21 or 22 inch rim. Audi states the the larger rims may be better for extreme handling but they are heavier and give less range than using a 19 or 20 inch rim. So I’d you are wanting more range I recommend the 19 or 20 inch rims and a low rolling resistance tire that more tire manufacturers are coming out to market with. The Alenza tires have also worn very well. I’ve put on at least 55,000 km on these summer tires and my tread is still above the wear bars. Last week My Bridgestone Alenza tires helped me to complete a Canadian record setting drive for an EV across Canada from coast to coast of over 7,000 KM including 2 ferries of 11 hours of ferry travel and 38 charging stops in 4 days, 18 hours and 25 minutes. For more info check out www.maryannselectricdrive.com.

[@tyrereviews]

That's super awesome :D

[@ivancajka732]

I have been dying for a video like this since I drive a Tesla for the past 12 months.

[@S2kDude36]

Excellent review and good timing. Looking at the Hankook S1 EV as my next set of tires.

[@tyrereviews]

I really liked them! What vehicle for?

[@S2kDude36]

@@tyrereviews Tesla Model 3 Performance, I have a spare set of Tesla 19" Sport Wheels to mount them. Looking for a less expensive tire than the PS4S, along with slightly better ride and improved efficiency, but mostly the lower cost tires, I have a 80 mile commute each way to and from my office.

[@santillbrezon2161]

I really like your channel, the advice and information you give is very good and interesting .

[@tyrereviews]

Thank you!

[@thesoundsmith]

Thanks for this info. One thing I did not hear - longevity/mileage. The tires on my ICE vehicles got 40-50K.

[@UTArch1]

I wish you had discussed cost. I found that EV tires are significantly more expensive than "regular" tires. And cost is a major factor for most people in their buying decisions.

[@ThePandafriend]

Isn't it rather obvious why EV tires are more expensive? All that R&D put in for a smaller amount of customers. Plus it's more challenging to make good EV tires. In addition to that the materials differ. But the latter is probably a smaller part of it all. I can't answer wether all this justifies the difference fully, but even though it might be a bitter pill to swallow for some, saving on tires should be one of the last things you should do. Keep in mind that cars are tools with the potential to cause a lot of harm to both the passengers and also other traffic participants.

[@abr555]

Top notch test/analysis/commentary as always, but maybe even more so. Also really appreciate the part at the end on EVs. I also used to say never to an EV, but now warming up to the idea for a family cehicle. Curious if the findings will be similar for other brand/category/size ev vs regular tires.

[@Steve-Stoytchev]

More EV content please! Specifically all season recommendations. There aren't many good options yet for ultra high performance tires on high powered evs

[@tyrereviews]

Working on it :)

[@uroskostic8570]

Blgarine, elektricna auta vise zagadjuju nego na autogas ili metan

[@cherylheater4347]

I just bought a Honda Clarity PHEV and am researching winter tires. I found your winter tire review helpful, so I watched this. It was reassuring for future all season choiches. Thanks!

[@Jeo-What]

Great review for today’s relevant topic on patrol vs EV vehicles. I wonder, if hybrid owners should also use EV tires? Would be interesting to see a comparison review on that.

[@WijiFiji]

This is a great question that I also would like to see being tested. As an owner of an E300 de, should I fit EV tires for the extra range in electric mode and the quieter ride? Or should I fit the regular tires? Is it even any benefit besides the lower noise? As the car weighs more than 2100kg, shouldn't struggle with wet braking. Hope these scenarios are tested in future videos about this topic, as well as other brands like Michelin Pilot Sport EV or Michelin e-Primacy.

[@macbitz]

I'd also be interested to see that.

[@tyrereviews]

I would focus on the middle ground tyre, low rolling resistance but not just for EV tyres, such as the e.Primacy

[@SonicWawes]

@@tyrereviews How about to put these EV tires on Plug-in-Hybrid with some EV range? I mean PHEV like Hyundai Tucson PHEV or Toyota Rav 4 PHEV.

[@fpartidafpartida]

Great video. Thanks for making this and “Hi” from across the pond in the States.

[@Sovereign86]

I would like to see a head 2 head comparison of a normal car + EV tires vs. a normal car +normal tires!

[@jaypaans3471]

Lol notice how "normal" is still i.c.e. ?

[@JRCarReviews]

We need a 2024 summer tire test on preferably the most popular car Tesla Model 3 LR 18". Tesla switched both Michelin and Hankook tire model on both 18" and 19" Highland.

[@peterwilliams2580]

Excellent review, enjoy all your videos thanks & well done but I do have a question regarding Evs, what All-Season tyre would you recommend for an EV?

[@tyrereviews]

CC2 or SF2

[@KyleBrightman]

@@tyrereviews I have a Bolt with CC2. Can confirm (although you know I’d never doubt your assessment, Jonathan).

[@tyrereviews]

@@KyleBrightman 😁

[@PavelNr1]

I love the scientific approach of this video. No false assumptions, no comparisons of washing machines with apples, but a lot of data. Of course, you are not in the lab, but you proved that the data provided by Hankook are legit very well.

[@tyrereviews]

Thank you!

[@dukinse5198]

Always enjoy this channel's upload. Very informative stuff, helpful for us car owners. I live in Greece and i am wondering should i buy all seasons or summer tires? I am leaning towards all season, but i want the most summer focused ones... Maybe hankook 4s2? Don't know...

[@tyrereviews]

I don't know your climate but if you're not getting snow I'd go summer

[@dukinse5198]

@@tyrereviews we have almost 20 days to 2 and a half months temperatures below 7 celsius at the mornings and night time especially. Snow and ice are more rare, about 10 days per year i guess. The summer is very hot though, 35+ degrees for 3 months.

[@patrickjr11]

I have Michelin E-Primacy tyres on my Leaf and the difference in noise from that was there before is amazing. In town driving they are substantially quieter. Recommend them without hesitation

[@tyrereviews]

Glad you like them. Please leave a review on www.tyrereviews.com sometime :)

[@patrickjr11]

@@tyrereviews Done

[@xiaomiredmi1541]

Great test, thank you. So basically ev tires are tires for heavy cars? Then it would be a perfect match for my 2.5t diesel.

[@pwells2389]

Very helpful vid. Not sure I agree with your range/battery opinion but the tyre reporting was great.

[@moose05focus]

It'd be cool to see an ev tire comparison between the manufactures, seems like they all have one out now

[@kendahlshane3147]

Impressive video. Important enough that I've posted a link to it in an extended discussion of Teslas on another website in the United States.

[@tyrereviews]

I hope they enjoyed it!

[@anthonyc8499]

Hey Jonathan, great review and explanation! Do you think manufacturers will make EV-specific variants of all their tyres or will they just be niche tyres focused on particular traits like low rolling resistance and wear?

[@tyrereviews]

As evs are the future there will certainly be a lot more available over the next few years

[@KTMDUDE1290]

Noticed on the photos of the dash display from the range test a thing that might be a problem in the comparison. EV tires runned in Driver mode, but EV tires in Sports mode which always will have a negative impact on range. Otherwise, excellent vid!! 👍👏

[@tyrereviews]

I love the nerd stuff too!

[@benbradbury3665]

What would happen if you put EV tyre on a non ev SUV as the weight is there so that disadvantage is not there? Do you pay more for the EV tyre? Great video as always

[@asharak84]

I'd assume, apart from cost, the other potential issue is that a lighter vehicle might find the tread pattern makes it more inclined to aquaplane edit: Yeah he covers this towards the end of his video

[@davidellis1355]

A Q5 is about 750-500kg lighter then the e-tron and a quick look on black circles showed an EV tyre was about £15 per tyre more then the equivalent summer tyre for my Nissan Leaf

[@tyrereviews]

Reduced comfort too, there's some bits at the end

[@Nicoolai]

Thanks for the good video! I was waiting for this kind of video. Looking forward to similar content!

[@KK-up3pq]

Agree on EVs but in general, meaning day-to-day charging is a non-issue. It charges when it's parked. Does not matter how slow. At the grocery store, at IKEA, at the playground. Of course some destinations may be chosen based on charging infrastructure. For long trips, my experience is, the car is quicker ready to go than we are. It's mostly a myth. Except very specific use cases (e.g. external sales travelling 50+kkm/year.). For non-teslas that's only going to be that way once the supercharger network is made available to every EV.

[@gothmog2441]

Even that specific use case ... I met a business traveller who had put 20,000 miles on his Tesla in the first six months he owned it: he was delighted with the fuel saving, which more than offset charging issues for him.

[@KK-up3pq]

@@gothmog2441 agree, in my company there is an external sales with a Tesla for years, but his area is only a few hundred km across. We have others that cover the whole country, so 500km one way is not a rare occasion. For them, 40mins of charging can mean the difference between seeing your kid on weekdays or not seeing your kid on weekdays. But however, covid has taught us that not all journeys are necessary...

[@brettgoldsmith8584]

The original audi etron (a modified a3 hatchback) had an entire separate trim of the car called the ULTRA, which improved EV range by 10%, and the only difference was the tyres. Granted, the full electric range was only 20 miles (it was a plug-in hybrid) but they still went to the trouble

[@Rocco_Speranza]

I'm very curious about Michelin's new EV tires coming out. Will you be testing those?

[@tyrereviews]

Sure will :)

[@teaflo]

What are the new Michelin tires coming out?

[@riskitforthebiscuit4802]

Primacy E Already for sale here in Australia for EVs and Hybrids

[@johugra1]

Really enjoyed the succinct presentation. Thank you.

[@tyrereviews]

Thank you!!

[@Cloverleaf7642]

Throughly enjoyed. Brilliant analysis, quality presentation.

[@tyrereviews]

Thank you!

[@CookedLight]

Interesting. Presented really well 👍🏻

[@tyrereviews]

Thnak you!

[@gust9464]

Thx for sharing. I have an electric car & I used both tires with foam & without. I really didn’t notice any noise difference. The tires I used were the Michelin pilot sport 4S & the A/S. Really didn’t notice if affected my range as well. I do know the staggered set affects range. Cheers

[@karacasarioglu1382]

Could you do a normal vs RFT tires. Thx. Keep up the good work

[@tyrereviews]

Defintely will

[@OVarlamov]

My experience is that the wear is much much higher. I never ever had to buy new tires that frequently until I went EV 4 years ago. Have to buy yet another set now and was actually seriously considering that it might be worthwhile to lose some 10% of range but not have to pay for new tires plus fitting them that soon again

[@pauldavison2018]

Very interesting review thanks. I'm surprised that the EV tyre is heavier yet gives a longer range. I've been looking at putting 18" wheels on a e-golf (replacing the visually awful 16" ones) but anecdotally this results in a reduction in range. It sounds like this is due to the wheel weight being further out from the wheel centre and probably a stickier tyre. It would be great if you could do a review of different wheel sizes on an EV. I recall Engineering Explained found his range improved when he went to smaller wheels on his Model 3. The other thing I would be very interested to see tested would be to see different tyres tested for accelerating from rest, particularly when wet, as wheel spin isn't something I've see rated and is a real issue with EVs. This would then need to be compared with rolling resistance as I imagine it is difficult to achieve great grip and low rolling resistance.

[@lordofkiwi5144]

The best for EV is lightweight rims but tyres with strong sidewalls (so most likely an heavy tyre). If you do the opposite you will lose on range and driving experience.

[@Xenon0000000000001]

I don't think the weight of the tyre/wheel combination really affects the range much, it's more down the the aero. Tyre sidewall is just more aerodynamic than the wheels, so they give better range. The other factor would be the tyre width if that was different for the low profile tyres, because narrower tyres are going to be significantly more efficient.

[@markgambrill]

@@Xenon0000000000001 A tyre/wheel weight will most definitely affect range. Lighter the better. The reason the EV tyre in this vid is heavier is due to being design for a heavier vehicle. A heavier vehicle will need higher pressures so the tyre deformation is more defined by that rather than the tyre construction. So you need a stiffer tyre to handle the higher loads. The reason a lighter setup is better for range is down to the energy required. It takes less to get it rotating and to keep it rotating.

[@RobStevens64]

This is great! Would love more EV-focused videos. I live in a rainy climate (Seattle) and I'm buying a Mustang Mach-E. I'm looking for an all-season tire (I'm lazy) with good wet weather performance, and won't decimate the range on the Mustang.

[@acinonyx_potens_6564]

Hello ! very good video as usual ! Can you test for example the difference between the Michelin Energy saver + and the Primacy 4 on an little hatchback EV car like the Renault Zoé or the Peugeot e-208 ? (or anything else :) ) and if it's possible to test with a regular car with an combustion engine to see the difference And if it's possible the difference in terme of Mpg on a hybride vehicule like the Toyota Prius/Renault Clio E-tech, or something else

[@tyrereviews]

I'll try my best :)

[@acinonyx_potens_6564]

@@tyrereviews thx you so much for doing this !

[@beachbumis]

Great content, looking forward to your future EV related info!

[@roccosperanza]

I think you need to try a Tesla Model 3 performance or a Porsche Taycan around a track. I think you'll be pleasantly surprised.

[@petrolhead2955]

I‘m the person who did thing the other way. I have a Toyota Rav4 hybrid and I've installed 4 Tesla Model Y 19inch OE wheels on my car. Those Tesla wheels have the Hankook EV tires on them and my actual experience was a bit different than what you said would happen in the video. The acoustic foam, which is a big selling point, is in fact useless. Road noise is worse after I fitted Tesla wheels. You can't feel it because you are in one of the most quiet vehicle in the market. Go ask Model Y owners, they will tell you how terrible the noise is. And then the fuel economy, I find very little impact. Even though the Tesla wheels are heavier(30+kg each vs 25kg each) and wider(255mm vs 225), I still have around 5.5L/100km city consumption. So my conclusion, after 2000km on EV tires, is that EV tires on conventional cars is not good idea😅

[@Z-u-m-a]

The charging times of EVs is a huge barrier for many - especially for those without a driveway and ability to charge at home. Let alone the cost of them. Was at the small, local supermarket the other day and for the first time saw one of their EV charge points actually been used. Used meant a flustered looking father anxiously checking his between his watch and the charging progress, and two seriously fed-up looking kids sat on the curb playing with phones. Not a great advert! Great test though.

[@scottwills4698]

The cost is close to parity now. 84% of people with cars have a drive so that’s a big part of the market. I find it much more convenient to fill up an ev, just plug it in at home every few days and charge overnight, much better than driving out of my way to fill up with petrol or diesel taking at least 7 mins of my day and costing 10 times what it costs me in electric. I doubt the guy you mentioned at the supermarket was on a road trip, those chargers are slow and add 30mph.

[@Assimilator1]

@@scottwills4698 84%? Where do you get that figure from? It might be true for the suburbs, but I bet it isn't for cities! (whether the US, UK, Europe etc).

[@Dudeisthere]

If i could charge at home id have an EV as a daily already. Unfortunately its almost impossible if you have to rely on public chargers, and thanks to the crazy electricity prices we have here in Germany the EV can quickly become more expensive to "fill up" than a compareable Diesel.

[@scottwills4698]

@@Assimilator1 it is, 84% of people “WHO OWN AND DRIVE CARS”. Ok, I checked to see if I can find the link to this and the best I could find was 70% on Statistica and it was a few of years old. The figure in the press is 30% of uk homes have off road parking which is misleading as a lot of urban homes will use public transport etc as it’s more convenient.

[@solentbum]

I suggest the father and kids were waiting for the wife to come out of the supermarket. Any one who has owned an EV for more than a few days has little problem with charging.

[@drenalin_junkie]

I am a petrolhead too. I have a LR & several motorbikes but I am also convinced about EV's for daily errands & that instant torque. Check out the Mustang Mach-e as a great alternate to an Audi. The build quality is up there with Audi! I couldn't believe it.

[@maxsec2]

FYI rain clearance is a big ting for EV';s, on the mway Ive seen a 25% reduction in efficiency in heavy rain on the mway

[@Assimilator1]

Interesting point, but in which case all cars would be affected by that, not something I'd considered before!

[@maxsec2]

@@Assimilator1 they are, just notice it more in an ev...

[@yanchegoh1548]

Love watching your videos and it is very infomative! By the way, have you thought of making eco tyres review?

[@tyrereviews]

It's on the list :)

[@saqs]

How do you always read my mind!? I’ve been thinking this for a while.

[@tyrereviews]

I follow you everywhere you go

[@Fred_P]

"Every Breath You Take" starts playing.

[@ghibli608]

Thank you for this report ! Very useful.

[@AnthonyTeasdale]

Still using Crossclimate + on my Leaf and thinking of switching to Crossclimate 2 when they need changing. Do you think they are the best option for a all season for electric?

[@niccox1738]

Snap - would also be interested to see if this is still the best option

[@Th3cr4zy0n3]

Pirelli CINTURATO ALL SEASON SF 2 seems to be even better than CROSSCLIMATE 2… Test neeeded

[@tyrereviews]

Test out monday, but CC2 and SF2 oth great optoins for EVs

[@linalbert]

There's more and more EV specific tires out from Michelin and Goodyear. Goodyear just announced their ElectricDrive tires specifically for EV. they also say its built to be quiet. A noise comparision would be great too between the various EV specific tires from various manufacturers.

[@tyrereviews]

Working on it :)

[@ronaldconiglio9942]

Thank you for the informative review.

[@tyrereviews]

Glad it was helpful!

[@johnkashka803]

I just put regular tires from Tires Plus on my 2013 Leaf. They are a little louder, but other than that I don't notice anything different. Regular tires were a hell of a lot cheaper.

[@steve0680657]

Does this give credit to fitting "extra load" versions of tyres to combustion cars, in order to improve handling? It would be great to see some "extra load" versions of tyres already included as part of a group test... i.e. 205/55/16 91v vs 94v on a golf or similar. How would Braking, Handling, Rolling Resistance, Comfort be affected?

[@tyrereviews]

It sure does, but it obviously depends on brand and tyre

[@joyfuflower]

I've been driving an EV for over 8 years now and honestly, I barely ever look at my range. I start every day with the same charge and my normal driving only uses around 25% of it so range is not nearly as big a factor as noise, comfort and handling for me. When I first got it I was obsessed with range and efficiency but as fast chargers started being built out and I got used to my daily range use, I started caring less and less about efficiency. Than being said, from my experience, speed and tire pressure are the biggest killers of range. The car came with performance oriented all-season (3 season because Canada) tires and I just run performance summer tires in the summer and "extreme winter" tires for our long snowy winters so I can get to the ski hills (and not die in our frequent snow storms). The range hit has been unnoticeable to me because of all the other factors that affect it and with as much range as I have, I really don't worry. That being said, if I can get better performance, superior comfort AND better range, I will definitely take it!

[@alrokram]

Very informative, considering going EV.

[@domtdoodar99]

@@blitzwing1 do you mean estate? MG5 is a solid car. Not a flashy one but very functional and very good value, (sub 25k new)

[@JoshBaer-ri2dc]

Can you create a video comparing different low rolling resistance/EV tires? You create a best summer/winter tire series and with the increased adoption of EVs it's would be worthwhile to compare best tires for this type of vehicle

[@happybeerlove]

Even the vids that I think are going to be as dry as a nuns nasty are still interesting. Nice work Jonathan keep it up mate 🍻

[@tyrereviews]

Thanks!

[@RekoPrime]

I incorrectly assumed I was already subscribed to this fantastic channel. Solved.

[@fts3865]

Hankook have done a great job with the s1evo3 ev. Btw I think you didn’t mention comfort?

[@tyrereviews]

Comfort was mentioned, slightly better on non-ev, and they sure have :)

[@fts3865]

@@tyrereviews thanks! Must have missed it. Would be interesting to know the rolling resistance levels. I would say the EV must be around 6.

[@aeroline11]

@@tyrereviews I am currently using S1 Evo3 non EV. Although it is performance tyre but the tyre isn't stiff but yet it still provides great handling in concern and feel planted at highspeed. Value for money!

[@Ficon]

Had a chuckle that Ventus S1 Evo3 EV is not available for the E-tron in the US. It's also a UHP summer tire which is not practical where I live and generally not practical for a heavy family car. I will say that the caveat to your otherwise excellent analysis is the differences are only relevant for EV vs. non-EV versions of this particular tire. I'm currently suffering through OEM GoodYear Eagle Sport All-Seasons which are far noisier and with worse ride and more squirm than Michelin X-Ice Snow SUVs which makes it the second car in a row that I prefer on snow tires rather than OEM all-season tires (the other one suffered from BMW's obsession with the atrocious plague that is run-flats). Heavier tires also increase unsprung mass which then adversely impacts all other aspects of ride and handling.

[@BobK5]

Thanks for another very good tyre review. You mentioned the downside to EV’s of recharge time but I think that resale value is also going to be a big factor.

[@tyrereviews]

Good point!

[@Xenon0000000000001]

I'd expect resale value of EVs to be better long term. They require way less maintenance and there's much less mechanically to go wrong with them. The big worry was always the batteries degrading, but that doesn't seem to be an issue on cars with good battery management (pretty much everything other than Nissan Leafs). Even now, if you take a look at used prices for Teslas you'll see that resale value is very good.

[@BobK5]

@@Xenon0000000000001 battery life is around 10 years in good conditions, you buy an EV, Tesla or whatever and run it for 2 years, battery life is now down to 8 years max if you’re lucky. Who will want to pay top dollar for a car with a max of 8 years left to run knowing that it may well be only 6 years?

[@NickFoster]

@@BobK5 Tesla’s last impact report showed about 10% battery degradation after 200,000 miles. The batteries in modern EVs will outlast the rest of the car. Just don’t buy an old Leaf.

[@BobK5]

@@NickFoster that’s reassuring if it’s accurate, I’ve yet to see it in practice though, running a battery car through seasonal changes and not always having the opportunity to charge it up efficiently. Running the car for 200,000 miles continuously isn’t the same as running the car 10 to 30 or 100 miles a day for ten years in road conditions and outside temperature variations. Who runs a car continuously for 200,000 miles?

[@owenjones-wells9395]

My electric Smart Fortwo came with Continental EV tyres, which when I came to replace my original tyres recently, I could not find anywhere in the size I need. And the tyres I could find were summer only, not all seasons. If it is recommended that we got EV tyres to EV's, then not options need to be available. This was a very interesting video.

[@StevenTilly]

Missed one important stat. What's the price differential?

[@jimmymorgan3324]

THIS MAN. IS EASILY. TO UNDERSTAND. “ SPEAKS. CLEAR . RARE in THIS. DAY & AGE, GOD BLESS YOU .

[@tyrereviews]

Why thank you!

[@ricco123tube]

Love my EV, never going back to ICE. Thanks for this video. I was wondering about this for a while now and content like this is a rare thing. Thanks again.

[@luciteck]

Love my ICE. Never going to use an EV until they can reach 1000 km range , 5 min charging time and until the fast charging infrastructure will be equal in size and efficiency as ICE.

[@snakeeyes9246]

@@luciteck (Casually drowns in rising sea levels while overheating)

[@emmanuelcedillo6627]

We need this test: Michelin Pilot Sport EV vs Pilot Sport 4 or Michelin E Primacy vs Primacy 4. I have heard that the wet braking is much worse with the Michelin EV tires compared to the “normal ones” Thanks for your videos!

[@tyrereviews]

I actually have a a video (not a test) covering partly this tomorrow. You're right, for now I'd be fitting the 4 over the E.Primacy

[@jonathanpalmer5505]

That was genuinely interesting.

[@william_hartman]

I have a set of Michelin CrossClimate+ on my Tesla Model 3 Performance that I simply find irreplaceable. They have great grip in the summer and rain, their snow handling is amazing (I live in New England so lots of snow), I have nearly 20k miles on them and the tread is hardly worn at all, and I get good efficiency with them (~250 wh/mi). The only thing bad about them is that they are a noisy compared to the stock Michelin Primacy MXM4 Tesla tires. I hope Michelin will come out with a CrossClimate 2 EV!

[@tyrereviews]

The new CC2 is very low rolling resistance so will be an improvement for you!

[@cglphotographyni4826]

Great review! Never occurred to me that electric cars require ev tyres. The weight of that car is immense 2.7 tonnes? 😩 I wonder what will happen if you put ev tyres on a petrol or diesel car. Will it be more quiet?

[@thebrowns5337]

I assumed they would have a few years back when eMTBs became a thing and the tyre manufactures quickly developed new mountaìn bike tyres for these electric assisted bikes - again to cope with the extra weight and torque (not bothered by noise or range so much I don't think). As for fitting to a normal car I'd assume it's a big no no - the tyres themselves weigh a fair bit morethan normal car tyres and that will have an immediaten effect on how the car handles potholes etc. (heavier unsprung weight) with a long term effect on wearing out your suspension quicker too. May even find it slows your acceleration due to the rotational weight, remember EVs have masses of torque so not an issue there.

[@tyrereviews]

I cover that a bit at the end. They would be, but you can get foam matting in normal tyres too

[@MrAdopado]

Do bear in mind that there is a range of weights amongst EVs just as with ICE cars. Not all EVs are 2.7 tonnes and Etron is at heavier end (My Tesla Model 3 is 1 tonne lighter than Etron and the Model 3 range is similar weight to BMW 3 series ICE range)

[@th3w4nted]

Fantastic review! Will you get a chance to test the Pilot Sport EV and Pirelli PZ4 NCS Elect tyres soon?

[@laloajuria4678]

now if we can get them in an AS/AW variant ill buy them in an instant. dont need UHPS here.