U-DRAG RACE: BMW M2 vs. Nissan Z Nismo | Quarter Mile, Handling & More

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Күн бұрын

Welcome back to Edmunds U-Drags, our series of down-and-back drag races that incorporate a standing quarter mile, handling, and a rolling start all in one race! In this episode, the fired-up BMW M2 faces off against the Nissan Z Nismo. Which pumped-up sport coupe will take the win?
00:00 Intro
00:18 The Numbers
00:58 Race 1 Prep
02:23 Race 1
05:29 Race 2 Prep
06:18 Race 2
09:28 Best Numbers Recap
09:59 U-Drags Leaderboard
10:14 Edmunds' Take
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@edmundscars
@edmundscars 28 күн бұрын
Would you get the Nismo over the M2 or does the lower price and optional manual mean it’s BMW for the win? Let us know in the comments!
@T_3rR4h
@T_3rR4h 28 күн бұрын
Manual all day, every day. Doesn't Nissan pay attention to the big players like porsche in that regard? That Nismo is simply far too overpriced.
@jp23x
@jp23x 28 күн бұрын
Id get a bag of hot Cheetos over the Z
@deanmcmanis9398
@deanmcmanis9398 28 күн бұрын
I am looking forward to seeing the new Model 3 Performance, which I prefer over both of these impressive cars.
@Foiiiii1
@Foiiiii1 28 күн бұрын
Manual M2 all the way, you'd have to be a bit soft in the head to buy the Nismo Z when you could get the base model in manual for much cheaper.
@Marvelous0071
@Marvelous0071 28 күн бұрын
I'm keeping my 370Z
@brandonhodnett5420
@brandonhodnett5420 28 күн бұрын
Look it up that BMW is actually putting 450 hp to the wheels, like all M cars it’s grossly underrated. This race was over before it started, is anyone surprised?
@Legendary-2024
@Legendary-2024 28 күн бұрын
nope! already left the comment lol.. more like 553hp lol
@jpracing893
@jpracing893 28 күн бұрын
Essentially they have to lie otherwise if it produced claimed it wouldn't be as impressive.
@ZephyrCorsa
@ZephyrCorsa 28 күн бұрын
@@Legendary-2024Not close to 550hp, BMW ratings are about 10% below the actual figures or closer to wheel HP.. The G87's output at the crank is closer or just north of 500HP.. That and it makes significantly more torque.
@speeddemon311
@speeddemon311 28 күн бұрын
100% correct!!​@@ZephyrCorsa
28 күн бұрын
To the crank goof ball
@iwasadeum
@iwasadeum 27 күн бұрын
The fact that the Z is nearly $70K is criminal with this level of performance. This car should start at around Mustang GT money ($40K).
@patc8653
@patc8653 11 күн бұрын
@ nearly 70K I expect the Nismo Z to come with adjustable dampers, valve exhaust, adjustable aero(eg. rear wing) full Recaro seats(bottom is cheap Nissan cushion), carbon interior bits, data logging or telemetry, more power(450hp minimum), should have a manual option or a faster auto(Nismo trans still slow compared to a ZF trans). Even with all these changes and additions, the Nismo Z still being a cheap Nissan product.. MSRP should be @ 55K.
@dnice362
@dnice362 28 күн бұрын
Insane that’s this cars are the same price.
@yawnn12
@yawnn12 28 күн бұрын
There's a Z for sale by me for 65k. I can think of so many more cars that better for the same or less. Who's buying Z's? What's the appeal?
@stephenhou5335
@stephenhou5335 28 күн бұрын
@@yawnn12 just get the base version at under 50k it is a great option if you dont want the bmw supra. The nismo version are for hardcore nissan fans like the gtr nismo which is like twice the price of the regular gtr.
@mthusiastmedia9782
@mthusiastmedia9782 28 күн бұрын
That’s what I was thinking. Why on earth would they line these 2 up unless they cost the same. YUP. and in this case, the Z costs more lol. Why does Nissan do this to themselves. Great car for 15k less.
@superfast30
@superfast30 28 күн бұрын
The Z is a rip. Makes the M2 look like a bargain!
@BigHeadClan
@BigHeadClan 28 күн бұрын
⁠​⁠@@yawnn12Looks and a more engaging drive than any of its direct competitors. The Z has never been the best on paper of its direct rivals but it’s always been a very capable all rounder. That said I do agree the Nismo is too expensive, snag a base trim install new coil overs and an LSD and pocket the other 15-20K.
@Judas_LT1_313
@Judas_LT1_313 28 күн бұрын
That Nissan is 67k!!!!!!! wtf?!?!?!!
@chrism869
@chrism869 28 күн бұрын
It's the nismo version,its gonna be more than the regular z
@Judas_LT1_313
@Judas_LT1_313 28 күн бұрын
@@chrism869I get it but brother, but for nearly 70k you have so many faster better performing options.
@mrjj216
@mrjj216 28 күн бұрын
​​@@Judas_LT1_313right. For that price point I'll happily take an s550 gt and have some money left over for mods.
@darthvaydor6716
@darthvaydor6716 28 күн бұрын
For that you can get a mustang dark horse
@mkm6073
@mkm6073 28 күн бұрын
Not sure who’d buy this over the M2 (or others…)
@sasothestrategizer
@sasothestrategizer 28 күн бұрын
Even the M240i would’ve wore out that Nissan!!!
@travisfandrich
@travisfandrich 28 күн бұрын
You beat me to it!
@Lionsheartification
@Lionsheartification 28 күн бұрын
Idk about that
@layne4376
@layne4376 28 күн бұрын
It would have matched the acceleration but definitely not in the cornering. And I just slagged the Z in a previous post.
@Foiiiii1
@Foiiiii1 28 күн бұрын
The GR Supra would destroy it too.
@travisfandrich
@travisfandrich 28 күн бұрын
@@Lionsheartification I would guarantee it! Because I’ve been that situation, I have a 2022 m240i and the new Z just doesn’t have the grip it needs to hold up, change out the tires and it would be better but still get beat
@jennypenny7243
@jennypenny7243 28 күн бұрын
That S58 engine is a beast!
@Bimmer_Bill
@Bimmer_Bill 28 күн бұрын
And it gains about 250 whp with nothing more than a flash tune and e85. Don’t know any other platform that can do that with no bolt ons.
@Jmarzx
@Jmarzx 28 күн бұрын
@@Bimmer_Billtrue as much as I try nd go against the grain I always seeem to have to go back to bmw for this rzn
@Bimmer_Bill
@Bimmer_Bill 28 күн бұрын
@@Jmarzx feel you brother
@BigLoMayne
@BigLoMayne 28 күн бұрын
@@Bimmer_Bill Sheeesh!
@jr1885
@jr1885 28 күн бұрын
Exactly! I’ve had guys argue me down that the B58 in the M340i is better (and have never driven an M2). However I have and know that the S58 has crazy top end power. It pulls really hard in triple digits, something B58 struggles with (stock for stock).
@dftns19
@dftns19 28 күн бұрын
I don't think there was a whole lot of mystery to what we were gonna see here
@billshoe22191
@billshoe22191 27 күн бұрын
The price on the new Z is hilarious. $68k for that Nismo is straight up insulting
@patc8653
@patc8653 12 күн бұрын
This is why the new Z will be a failure.. there aren't enough stupid customers willing to pay the ridiculous MSRP Nissan is charging. The Sport trim Z isn't bad but still should have been started around 35K MSRP.
@GuyRandomOne
@GuyRandomOne Күн бұрын
And it looks ugly as hell.
@MikeBaloga
@MikeBaloga 28 күн бұрын
I don't think anyone should be surprised with this outcome.....
@scottyk329
@scottyk329 28 күн бұрын
3.6 sec 0 to 60 and 11.6 sec quarter!! M2 is a beast and that S58 has so much more potential.
@jz7551
@jz7551 28 күн бұрын
That car definitely has more than 500hp
@justme307
@justme307 28 күн бұрын
For $10K less the Model 3 Performance will hit 60 in less than 3 seconds.
@mkm6073
@mkm6073 28 күн бұрын
@@justme307yeah, but then you have to drive a Tesla. But, I think in 2024 we can welcome gay people in the car world too!;)
@bigdi77
@bigdi77 28 күн бұрын
@@justme307man everyone don’t a Tesla fanboy
@justme307
@justme307 28 күн бұрын
@@mkm6073 Nice try. I own a 442, Charger R/T (late model), Subie hawkeye and C5 vert. Get back in your Corolla S.
@augustortiz
@augustortiz 28 күн бұрын
More power, shorter gearing, better gearbox. The Z had its work cut out before it even began.
@rmp5s
@rmp5s 24 күн бұрын
I'm a long time Nissan fan boy...currently have my 7th Z (a 2014 6MT 370Z Roadster Sport that I ADORE), a 6MT Juke Nismo for the wife's daily (>117k on the clock and still gets ~30mpg!), a 6MT Sentra Nismo for my daily and a 2016 FBO GT-R (that I'd LOVE to get on this show!!!) and even >I< know, before even watching, that this is absolutely, 100% going to be a blowout...they say the Z is "new", but it's not. The underpinnings have been around for about a decade and a half at this point. The bimmer may as well be from a different planet. EDIT: Yup. Went exactly as expected. lol
@keithholbrook2471
@keithholbrook2471 24 күн бұрын
The Z (Ive had several and still own a 70) is still a good alternative to those who simply won't own a modern bimmer because of shit long term quality; of which I also subscribe to.
@rmp5s
@rmp5s 24 күн бұрын
@@keithholbrook2471 Oh for sure. This drivetrain is basically bulletproof. The VQ35, then the VQ37, have been around FOR...EV...ER at this point and have been put in basically everything imaginable for a standard car company. It's a great engine! Mine needs boost...inbound. 😁 What year is yours?
@keithholbrook2471
@keithholbrook2471 24 күн бұрын
@@rmp5s it's a '14 Touring 6sp with sport and Tech packages. 68k miles.
@rmp5s
@rmp5s 24 күн бұрын
@@keithholbrook2471 Nice! Mine is a '14 6sp too! Just the Sport though...no nav. Mine only has ~20k on it, though. Love it!! There are a few videos on my channel about it.
@Johnny_Ocha
@Johnny_Ocha 24 күн бұрын
The Z never ceases to disappoint... This is coming from a Nissan fan too.
@johnstovall8846
@johnstovall8846 2 күн бұрын
As a Nissan fan I alredy knew the outcome but was still sad to watch
@pherron7471
@pherron7471 28 күн бұрын
The Nismo Z is growing on me and I say this as a twin turbo 370Z owner. On the positive side, power won't be a problem. You can take it to your local GT-R tuner and they'll make it as fast as you need.
@shad3128
@shad3128 28 күн бұрын
The Z has always been good for that, most people who are Z enthusiasts are never too worried about that. Problem is ever since the nismos came out around 2012 and upwards they are grossly overpriced for nothing special (I liked my 2018 but it was retarded for what it costs.) When it comes to modding them if people arent worried about money then yeah, they are awesome. However the b58 and s58s are insane if you do one or two mods now they pickup so much power per dollar. Its hard to be a nissan enthusiast anymore :(
@kok111188
@kok111188 28 күн бұрын
The problem is the transmission. I bought the M2 with the auto because the ZF8 is such a insane transmission, smooth as silk but shifts hard when you want. The Z nismo feels clunky and dated - that's because it is dated, it's the same automatic they have been using in the 370z which is more than a decade old. If they stick a manual in the Nismo, it's going to be a great car. I loved my 370z Nismo 6-speed.
@IScoreUnderPressure4
@IScoreUnderPressure4 27 күн бұрын
​@@kok111188it's not the same automatic at all. You have no idea what you're talking about
@kok111188
@kok111188 27 күн бұрын
@IScoreUnderPressure4 it's just another garbage Jatco automatic transmission with the design basis from a Mercedes. No one claims this transmission is up to standards from the competition.
@NFSINSANE
@NFSINSANE Күн бұрын
The problem is the price
@andrebrooks9719
@andrebrooks9719 28 күн бұрын
The z is about 10-15 grand over priced for a warmed up half baked 80% refresh
@norwegianblue2017
@norwegianblue2017 28 күн бұрын
Exactly. The regular Z is at least competitive at its price point, although still the underdog. The NISMO is a rip off.
@augustortiz
@augustortiz 28 күн бұрын
Add to that they never offered a manual option. They deserve to flop.
@SoCalFreelance
@SoCalFreelance 26 күн бұрын
That Nismo Z engine has so much more potential. Wish they gave it the horsepower it deserves.
@chaaamoy123gomez8
@chaaamoy123gomez8 4 күн бұрын
Same Vr30 engine since 2016. It's an outdated platform, don't why they couldn't closed decked it or some type of engine work. Still the same old engine with shitty turbos, that's coming from a q60rs owner.
@Lawnyyy-
@Lawnyyy- 28 күн бұрын
BMW sandbags their numbers, the new M2 actually makes 450 WHP 👀👀 that thing is fast
@genderlessyoutubefanperson
@genderlessyoutubefanperson 24 күн бұрын
I believe that. My 2024 X3M non comp makes 456 AWD HP. M2 is rear-wheel drive and even with the less powerful version of S58 puts down impressive power.
@venom999333
@venom999333 27 күн бұрын
Nissan 420 hp to the crank BMW 453 hp to the wheels That's a BIG difference. Almost every other manufacturer does hp to the crank. Time to change up your game gentlemen
@therealmbakugaming
@therealmbakugaming 28 күн бұрын
Nismo Vs Supra has to be next.
@Dagoroth55
@Dagoroth55 28 күн бұрын
My bet is that the Nismo will still lose to the Supra(BMW Z4).
@GeeManFishing
@GeeManFishing 26 күн бұрын
I love these videos!!!
@AutobahnSoCal
@AutobahnSoCal 28 күн бұрын
The M2 has so much overboost once it gets to 3rd gear it's lights out. It destroyed the Dark Horse and RS3 in a drag so this is no surprise it destroyed the Nismo.
@saltyfloridaman7163
@saltyfloridaman7163 28 күн бұрын
BMW likes to underrate their cars on purpose. If BMW says their car makes 400hp, it makes 500hp to the crank
@AutobahnSoCal
@AutobahnSoCal 28 күн бұрын
@@saltyfloridaman7163 yep
@saltyfloridaman7163
@saltyfloridaman7163 28 күн бұрын
@@AutobahnSoCal I've already seen dyno vids showing the M2 at 448whp
@AutobahnSoCal
@AutobahnSoCal 28 күн бұрын
@@saltyfloridaman7163 yea they dyno over 500hp at the crank
@OilyNinja
@OilyNinja 28 күн бұрын
I love watching videos of my car beating on other cars
@blackfish4674
@blackfish4674 28 күн бұрын
Haha same
@JacesOwnWorld
@JacesOwnWorld 27 күн бұрын
But how ugly is it though!! Very...
@blackfish4674
@blackfish4674 26 күн бұрын
@@JacesOwnWorld way better looking than that slow pos mini station wagon you got. Looks like one of those small smart cars🤣
@nallis01
@nallis01 26 күн бұрын
As a response to all those comments saying the Nismo Z would be better matched to the m240i. You would still be wrong. The m240i traps 12.0 - 12.2. That xDrive will still slaughter the Z.
@madpistol
@madpistol 25 күн бұрын
Yep. M240i xDrive launches like a scalded cat. Z would be dead from the start.
@trudgyhd
@trudgyhd 28 күн бұрын
Love these races, very useful! The only thing I'd like added in these videos are the prices as the cars sit in the race.
@willkaufman363
@willkaufman363 28 күн бұрын
0:35 they show "price as tested"
@jz7551
@jz7551 28 күн бұрын
Let's be real, the BMW has 100hp more. It's not secret BMW always underrate their Hp numbers.
@questionyourself718
@questionyourself718 25 күн бұрын
Not 100. Like 30 more on the wheels.
@zspec1
@zspec1 28 күн бұрын
As soon as I saw the difference in accelerration my first thought was, "no way there's only a 50hp difference between these 2!". 100 hp is more believeable. Interestingly enough the M2 only managed a 2:56.9 in Car and Driver's lightning track and the Z managed a 2:56.2. Close enough the driver/conditions seem to be the biggest factors. As a die hard Z fan, I still prefer the Z, but hard to suggest getting one over the M2 at the same price 😢
@RitwikDutta
@RitwikDutta 28 күн бұрын
I believe the C&D Lightning Lap also had a significant tire differential between the cars. The Dunlop Sport Maxx tires the Nismo was using during that lap have a 200 UTQG rating, whereas the Pilot Sport 4S have a 300 UTQG rating; if the M2 ran with Cup 2s or Cup 2 Rs, then I believe it would have probably been quite a bit faster.
@jaredscott4829
@jaredscott4829 28 күн бұрын
@@RitwikDutta And if the Nismo wasn't 100hp down... its run what you brung, not what ifs. You also can't compare TW ratings from different manufacturers, its not setup that way.
@saltyfloridaman7163
@saltyfloridaman7163 28 күн бұрын
C&D's new driver isn't really pro level, he's more weekend warrior than track rat. He's good in any car, but not great when it comes to certain cars he tends to lose confidence in corners but give him time and he should improve
@hpickettz34
@hpickettz34 28 күн бұрын
You forgot that this is the base m2 not at cs or csl edition coming later, the nismo was built for the track, the m2 wasn't.
@zspec1
@zspec1 28 күн бұрын
@@hpickettz34 The M2 is made to be a track car. They just offer variants to be even more track focused. Similar to how gt3 is made to be a track car, but the gt3 rs is even more tracked focused.
@ganuv
@ganuv 25 күн бұрын
A more fair race would be with the m340 but yeah the s58 is probably the best 6 cylinder engine in the world right now
@mattyoz0
@mattyoz0 28 күн бұрын
The interior in the Z looks like a 90s hynundai in quality.
@thomasferrarojr.9772
@thomasferrarojr.9772 28 күн бұрын
Agreed. Horrid.
@Dartheomus
@Dartheomus 27 күн бұрын
As opposed to the exterior, which looks like a 2010s Hyundai. =P
@Sideways_Singh
@Sideways_Singh 23 күн бұрын
​@@Dartheomus the exterior looks amazing, yall m kids dk ride one brand too hard its ok to like another car yall act like anything that isnt a m is damn rc car lmfao. When u get ur money up guranteed ur tone will change real quick n then u will be riding a new brand.
@kuksenekroksene7574
@kuksenekroksene7574 23 күн бұрын
And bnw looks like from 80s
@Dartheomus
@Dartheomus 23 күн бұрын
@@Sideways_Singh When I get my money up to buy a nissan? I could buy 5 of those cars today if I wanted. No way would I waste my money on it. Personally I don't want the BMW either, but I was just pointing out that the Nissan just looks cheap.
@faYte0607
@faYte0607 28 күн бұрын
This video was perfect for me--both newer gen models of what I own/used to own. A 350z back in the mid 2000s and now own an F87 M2C. These cars are in different leagues but both dominate in their segments. You cannot go wrong with either car. I remember when my 350z HR was $27K MSRP before this inflation took over haha. You really can't go wrong with either one if the price is right!
@currarwhitham-field5213
@currarwhitham-field5213 28 күн бұрын
Haha I bought my 2007 manual HR for 27k nzd (around 50-60k originally here) 3 years ago, still going strong and your M2 Comp is my dream car, maybe I’ll get there one day!
@faYte0607
@faYte0607 28 күн бұрын
@@currarwhitham-field5213 you will get there! both are fun cars. enjoy your HR while you have it, I miss the unique purrrr sound of the VQ.
@scotturich
@scotturich 28 күн бұрын
Makes sense why the nismo is more nimble. In Phoenix we have some engineers who test them at local Autocross events and they have worked dialing the chassis. That M2 though just seems like a track weapon though.
@unowen-nh9ov
@unowen-nh9ov 27 күн бұрын
Since it's the same platform as every rwd. BMW, no.
@ALMX5DP
@ALMX5DP 28 күн бұрын
Sounds like the M2 is a beast, but the Nismo is a pretty damn good drivers car. If you're racing, get the car that wins races. If you just like to enjoy the drive, the Z might be a pretty compelling alternative.
@layne4376
@layne4376 28 күн бұрын
If you could get the Z in a manual, I might agree.
@ALMX5DP
@ALMX5DP 28 күн бұрын
@@layne4376 you can, just not the Nismo (at least not yet).
@jz7551
@jz7551 28 күн бұрын
They'll give us manual Z nismo. It's just a matter of time.
@javegis
@javegis 4 күн бұрын
Can you share what camera mounts were used inside the cars- so know which ones not to buy?
@TheFunkyair
@TheFunkyair 28 күн бұрын
M 240i is Nizmo competitor
@layne4376
@layne4376 28 күн бұрын
M240 is Z Sport competitor.
@povboy009
@povboy009 28 күн бұрын
@@layne4376 m240 is smoking Z easily. Nismo would be perfect match
@occckid123
@occckid123 28 күн бұрын
​@layne4376 the nismor isn't really more power it's better handling so the m240i is a better competitor unless they came out with a nismor rs
@layne4376
@layne4376 28 күн бұрын
@@occckid123 But that is reality. The standard Z is a competitor. This Nismo competes with the M2 - they are the same price. Nissan overpriced this car and dropped the ball in adding more power. I won't even discuss the crappy 9 speed transmission but suffice to say that this Nismo is no more a competitor to the M240 than it is to the M340. They weigh within 50 lbs of each other, have the same motor, trans, etc. If you gander at Car and Driver's Lightning Lap you will see that the current Nismo Z and M2 are right on top of each other for lap times whereas the M240 is 7 seconds slower or in track speak, an eternity. Nismo is Nissan's 'M' brand not 'M Lite' brand.
@layne4376
@layne4376 28 күн бұрын
@@povboy009 Nope. According to Car and Driver's Lightning Lap the Nismow is 7 seconds quicker per lap than the M240. In a 5 lap comparison, the M240 would be 35 seconds behind. It isn't even close. And I drive an M340 which is 50 lbs heavier than the M240. It is quick in a straight line but these two aren't great handling cars. And what are you smoking - even in acceleration, the Nismo is a couple of 10ths quicker in the quarter mile will running noticeably higher trap speeds.
@Slibins
@Slibins 28 күн бұрын
Would love to see a track comparison between the two
@davidbaron6647
@davidbaron6647 28 күн бұрын
Two amazing cars love to have one😊
@yungceze92
@yungceze92 27 күн бұрын
Did u fully turn off traction fully in the nismo 400z Like the m2 I didn’t see, it was just put in sport + for the z and for the m2 it was completely off
@Deathscroll41
@Deathscroll41 28 күн бұрын
Thank you
@genderlessyoutubefanperson
@genderlessyoutubefanperson 24 күн бұрын
My 2024 X3M non comp makes 456 AWD HP stock. M2 is rear-wheel drive with less drivetrain losses. Even with the less powerful version of S58, M2 puts down impressive power.
@rockemsockemrusbot684
@rockemsockemrusbot684 19 күн бұрын
Wow! Shocker! Looking forward to Hellcat v Camry next time
@Veyronp87
@Veyronp87 25 күн бұрын
the fact they're the same price is crazy. the Nismo Z is cool, and im glad they made it but its really not in the same league
@Mario_RX7
@Mario_RX7 28 күн бұрын
I love the Nissan Z, but their biggest flaw is their ridiculous price tags.
@jakebaddios577
@jakebaddios577 28 күн бұрын
Would be nice if you guys included which tires were used in your testing. Tires do without a doubt affect numbers/times.
@jonathanelfalan4866
@jonathanelfalan4866 28 күн бұрын
great suggestion, I'll see if we can fit going forward. For now here's what each car was running; Nismo Dunlop SP Sport Maxx GT600 255/40 R19 f, 285/35 R19 r M2 Michelin Pilot Sport 4S 275/35 R19 f, 285/30 R20
@jakebaddios577
@jakebaddios577 28 күн бұрын
@@jonathanelfalan4866 Great thanks
@shotss-si3ze
@shotss-si3ze 25 күн бұрын
That 370 putting down that 420 at the timing chain😮.
@williebrown1974
@williebrown1974 3 күн бұрын
This channel series needs to include older stock cars with modern tires!!!!!!! Might be interesting. I'd love to see a stock C5 Z06 vs these cars for perspective. That's just one of many cool match ups!!!!!!
@19hundoc47
@19hundoc47 28 күн бұрын
We knew how that was going to go
@chikmnunget
@chikmnunget 26 күн бұрын
Not surprised, that Z looks good tho and the M2 looks have really grown on me
@jshizzle2097
@jshizzle2097 26 күн бұрын
Supra vs M2? B58 vs S58 anyone? Do a manual and an automatic U drag. Thanks as always for the great races.
@fancytrip8341
@fancytrip8341 24 күн бұрын
S58 is such powerhouse..!! Wanna see ‘M5Cs vs Rs7 performance’
@jakemarshall2343
@jakemarshall2343 28 күн бұрын
Ground breaking results.
@chrissmith-rv5ro
@chrissmith-rv5ro 27 күн бұрын
Years ago I had an Infiniti M45. I learned then that German horsepower is different. I have a '20 M5 competition now, no more pretend Japanese horsepower. The Z probably has 350WHP, the M2 probably has at least 453WHP.
@sailguy0321
@sailguy0321 5 күн бұрын
Guess Nissan GTR horsepower must be different from German horsepower too. smh
@chrissmith-rv5ro
@chrissmith-rv5ro 5 күн бұрын
@@sailguy0321 that's about the ONLY example, and it's 16 years old. Also, the way a 2023 911 turbo or turbo S will embarrass a nismo isn't even funny. And if you take a standard gtr, my '20 M5 competition will easily walk that, probably the nismo too. Look, I know that German horsepower isn't "different", it's just usually whatever number they're giving you is low, and it's actually at the wheels not the crank. So for example BMW says my car is 617/553. It's more than that at the wheels. Dinan measured 707 at the crank. Most dynos of stock cars are showing 640 or more at the wheels. So, it's mostly a joke I was making about "different". SMH...
@chrissmith-rv5ro
@chrissmith-rv5ro 5 күн бұрын
@@sailguy0321 and what made me comment originally was when I had that Infiniti M45 with allegedly 335hp/336ftlbs a E500 raced me one day. I thought that on paper I had him, he has 302hp/I can't recall the torque. That car whipped me like it was a 60hp difference. I didn't know then what I know now, his 302hp was probably low, and WHP. My alleged 335ho was later downgraded to 325 and that was at the crank. So maybe about 275whp.
@SouthernUnboxer
@SouthernUnboxer 28 күн бұрын
It would be interesting to see Dyno numbers for each considering BMW typically undervalues hp numbers.
@fcman123
@fcman123 28 күн бұрын
Love my G87, probably the fastest thing you can but for under $70k new (other than the EVs), excellent interior quality, and I can still throw my kids in the back. I think the Nissan is priced ok for it's performance, but the M2 is an absolute bargain for what you are getting
@CtRacerX
@CtRacerX 23 күн бұрын
You guys should run the 2024 Alfa Romeo Quadrifoglio (since it is its last year) vs. the 2024 BMW M3
@user-ys9to2ie7k
@user-ys9to2ie7k 26 күн бұрын
I hope everyone else recognizes the fact that these two guys start every race almost perfectly-it plays an intrical part in the relevance of these races ¿`_
@gaivoron
@gaivoron 28 күн бұрын
Yeah. Not surprised.
@Pewnhound112
@Pewnhound112 4 күн бұрын
The fact that the as-tested MSRP is almost identical between these two cars is just……yeah.
@madpistol
@madpistol 27 күн бұрын
The S58 in the M2 is a monster of a motor. The Z stood no chance.
@adambarrera6641
@adambarrera6641 Күн бұрын
wish y'all were testing the manual M2 vs the manual z
@currarwhitham-field5213
@currarwhitham-field5213 28 күн бұрын
The M2 is $20-30k more here in New Zealand, maybe a tune and mild bolt ons and tires with that excess coin would put the Z on the same level. Nonetheless, I had my eyes on the Z coming out and have lost all enthusiasm in purchasing one haha.
@andybrooks4843
@andybrooks4843 28 күн бұрын
you guys should do explore st vs durango srt not the track hawk
@dougrobinson8602
@dougrobinson8602 28 күн бұрын
As usual, BMW is underrating their engine output. I am curious about the red color on the M2. When you go to BMW's website, I don't see that red (Immola Red II?).
@chrisbradley3224
@chrisbradley3224 28 күн бұрын
Toronto Red
@carmtimes
@carmtimes 27 күн бұрын
Liking the U-Drag element ....match the cars better as the M2 was always going to win..
@kenrossaukrsa
@kenrossaukrsa 28 күн бұрын
What’s a Nee Song??
@GRSEMETROMALL
@GRSEMETROMALL 28 күн бұрын
Not just HP, gearing as well.
@hungryhan
@hungryhan 28 күн бұрын
I want to see rs3 vs m2
@T_3rR4h
@T_3rR4h 28 күн бұрын
Just realised that these are virtually the same price bracket. Ouch! Though the Z's a refresh, the m2 should have just been one itself & now that m2 is the epitome of "It's what's inside that counts"
@pauldevassy2379
@pauldevassy2379 22 күн бұрын
Saw this at the local dealer while picking up parts. $68K?!?! So many cars are better for the same or less money. Was a big fan of the 300ZX TT. What happened?
@DPCcars
@DPCcars 28 күн бұрын
S58 motor for the win.
@hondass98
@hondass98 28 күн бұрын
Didn’t even watch the video yet and knew the M2 would be victorious 😅
@beneason9168
@beneason9168 22 күн бұрын
It's the F type R's last year in production. Could we see it compared to the M2 or M3 .
@falcodog2917
@falcodog2917 28 күн бұрын
The M2 is a beast but I'd take the Z car home.
@hertzer2000
@hertzer2000 27 күн бұрын
Well, that was expected.
@darksolara6750
@darksolara6750 16 сағат бұрын
awsome👍
@urbannomad8126
@urbannomad8126 27 күн бұрын
Edmunds: what can fly better, an eagle or a bit of dog shit. Thats what this race was.
@joshblack4982
@joshblack4982 25 күн бұрын
Fr, like why would anyone in their right mind buy a bmw
@joshblack4982
@joshblack4982 25 күн бұрын
Fr, like why would anyone in their right mind buy a bmw
@ToneNYC718
@ToneNYC718 28 күн бұрын
M2 acceleration numbers were significantly better than when it raced against the C8, how was the overall time worse now?
@saltyfloridaman7163
@saltyfloridaman7163 28 күн бұрын
Surface temps, air temps, track conditions like dust, sand, etc
@jmmch3358
@jmmch3358 11 күн бұрын
Edmund please do a Camaro SS1LE VS Shelby GT350/R or VS the Mach I or VS the dark horse
@Marbind
@Marbind 28 күн бұрын
I have not watched the video or read any comments but I already know who won. M2
@sonofspaceghost_9290
@sonofspaceghost_9290 9 күн бұрын
Oh yay, more automatics and launch controls. Can’t wait to see theses two ECU’s race each other
@davidg6721
@davidg6721 26 күн бұрын
I’m not mad that BMW “underrates”the HP. Lol It is upsetting when a manufacturer Says it’s a certain HP and you take it to the Dyno and it’s actually not even close… BMW is not lying about the HP they just forgot to put the W before the HP.
@Angelbonilla1982
@Angelbonilla1982 26 күн бұрын
Gotta do M2 🆚 Mustang GT
@ShermanMR2
@ShermanMR2 26 күн бұрын
You guys need to do the new Tesla model three performance against a BMW M3 comp
@Traumatree
@Traumatree 28 күн бұрын
Another "that BMW numbers are underrated..." moment it seems.
@dws-art
@dws-art 25 күн бұрын
In Australia the new M2 Auto is $32,000 more that a Nismo Z
@clbernier2
@clbernier2 28 күн бұрын
Not even close!!!
@reidvaughn8328
@reidvaughn8328 28 күн бұрын
I still want to see how the Manual Supra stacks up👀👀👀👀👀
@zaim8506
@zaim8506 25 күн бұрын
Z is nice hopefully they dont hold on to value hope to get a V1 nismo but if the V2 is better i will wait for that
@justme307
@justme307 28 күн бұрын
Went as I suspected.
@TrentonThomas627
@TrentonThomas627 28 күн бұрын
Not sure why Nissan didn’t put the 6spd dct in the Z
@NegativoZ06
@NegativoZ06 28 күн бұрын
Can we see c8 Z06 vs C7 Z06 , or C6 Z06 ,ZR1
@IanNicholasMusic
@IanNicholasMusic 26 күн бұрын
I want to see the Z up against a CT4 V Blackwing or a 5 Blackwing
@mototodd
@mototodd 28 күн бұрын
How about a Mustang vs the Z
@safari8292
@safari8292 28 күн бұрын
The Z is drift oriented. Impressive results
@utini11
@utini11 28 күн бұрын
The NISMO is supposed to be the track special, not drifting.
@ZephyrCorsa
@ZephyrCorsa 28 күн бұрын
S58T0 + ZF8HP75 >>
@brandonchism6960
@brandonchism6960 21 күн бұрын
For Nissan/Infiniti fans, the recipe is simple. Acquire the car, set up an appointment with Z1 Motorsport, tell them your intentions, cut the appropriate check, and go have fun. Yes, a BMW with work will still give you hell, but those guys have been making Nissan and Infiniti cars shock people for over 2 decades now.
@flea4061
@flea4061 28 күн бұрын
I haven't even watch this yet and I know that M2 is going to murder that Z.
@DonLee1980
@DonLee1980 27 күн бұрын
3.6s 0-60mph for a RWD M2... that's crazy
@phillyguerrilla
@phillyguerrilla 28 күн бұрын
Not a fan of either one, but realistically I'd rather have the Z. It's more reliable, practical, and cheaper to maintain. I'd like to see a rematch with both of them on a down pipe and tune (leave the cats on).
@carboydorifutoparty3976
@carboydorifutoparty3976 28 күн бұрын
That's still very unfair for the Z cause the S58 in the m2 can easily make 700whp+ on stock turbos + with dp can make far more power than a Z can with its stock turbos.
@phillyguerrilla
@phillyguerrilla 28 күн бұрын
@@carboydorifutoparty3976 Put the crack pipe down. A stock M2 will not make 700whp with an aftermarket down pipe and tune 🤣
@utshwala
@utshwala 28 күн бұрын
Smallest M? Isn't there an M1? and M Coupe?
@Bum_Hip
@Bum_Hip 28 күн бұрын
Z has been out for what, a year? Still have not seen one in the wild here in Vegas.
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