U-DRAG: Shelby GT500 vs. Dodge Challenger Black Ghost

[@edmundscars]

Which of these V8-powered American gladiators is your kind of muscle car, the Dodge Challenger Black Ghost or the Ford Mustang Shelby GT500? Let us know in the comments. And for everything U-Drags, be sure to visit our NEW webpage - edmunds.com/udrags

[@ItsPinecone_911]

As a Mopar owner.......I hate the looks of the Challenger so GT500 is the one Id take.

[@roguedogx]

If I'm getting a muscle car, I'm going full muscle car. So dodge it is. If I were getting a sports car, gt350r is the way I'd go.

[@Ccm10000]

@edmundscars don’t sell the GT500 and keep racing it 🔥

[@benjaminmatute9085]

I’m a mustang guy and I would choose the black ghost. I just think the gt500 is very underpowered, heavy, slow, and overpriced. I would just get a super snake.

[@ItsPinecone_911]

@@benjaminmatute9085 the GT500 is the supersnake 760hp Mustang......and is faster than the Black Ghost. Did you even watch the video?

[@DeltaEcho303]

The GT500 (760 hp) beat the Challenger Black Ghost (807 hp), and the C8 Z06 (670 hp) beat the GT500. Lesson: power doesn't necessarily equate to performance.

[@vondeezl2961]

I keep telling folks exactly what you've said here! weight, transmission, engine configuration (mid, rear, front) gearing, yada yada yada! Will make a difference! Also, people simply LOOK at RAW numbers without regards to TRUE numbers! The GT500 makes on avg. 655 - 663 rwhp! The new C8 Z makes anywhere between 599 - 640 rwhp! (depending on Dyno) Street Speed 717, actually got 640hp on the dyno on his highlighter yellow Z. So at the end of the day, the GT500 isn't making 90hp more than the Z! It's definitely, significantly heavier, it's not a mid-engine car and it's NOT even a direct competitor for the GT500, However, the Ford GT IS!!

[@kalgstol]

While I agree, power doesn't necessarily equate to performance but the gt500 and corvette aren't even in the same league

[@mogulme6190]

@@kalgstolwhy aren’t they?

[@kalgstol]

@@mogulme6190 stop being lazy and obtuse

[@voodoodiecast]

@@mogulme6190 you’re talking about a top sports car against a muscle car. Mid engine vs front engine, 2 seats vs 4 seats totally different cars.

[@heavenhelpus479]

Massacre. This clip should be rated R.

[@crusader7091]

Watching two stock cars racing is pretty boring

[@brennan2553]

@@crusader7091 you’re right. If both were modified the GT500 would win by even more

[@Icygt500]

@@brennan2553😂😂😂😂😂 true

[@Jeeperscreepers778]

@@brennan2553facts😂

[@MrDahkilla]

Lol

[@IMGONEIN60]

The GT500 is amazing. I’m so glad Ford got away from the straight line only performance that the previous GT500’s had, and put some handling into the package…👍🏾👍🏾

[@reyfuentes4572]

??? Gt500 always handled like a beast even the old one...

[@edmundscars]

@@reyfuentes4572 The current GT500 is in a completely different league when it comes to handling

[@reyfuentes4572]

@@edmundscars oh I definitely agreed but I seen almost all gen gt500s get down on local and other tracks...

[@YusufSayed-px2xy]

The 2013 Shelby GT500 had the rear axle suspension that's why it handled like that. The new ones have the independent rear suspension which is much better for handling.

[@tinleo3339]

@@reyfuentes4572 You mean the old ones with solid rear axe and regular manual transmissions?

[@bigguy4u989]

props to dodge for making the slowest 800hp car on the market!

[@meanmugginj]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@2022-u7g]

More like on the planet.. my gosh do dodge do any testing with their direct competition cars.

[@jasonrodriguez8132]

LMFAO

[@spectrexr1]

😂😂😂 have some respect lol

[@Asiansxsymbol]

It's slower than most 600hp cars.

[@ImTheSlyDevil]

This GT500 will be missed. It's put in so much work.

[@edmundscars]

Sure has, we've enjoyed the ride!

[@voodoodiecast]

@@edmundscars thanks for putting in all the GT500 content since you had it now pit it against a ZL1 for a final farewell!

[@twany442]

It put in the most work.

[@funonly9849]

@@edmundscars you can try also 2013 gt500 665 hp

[@mikeprice8307]

Missed?

[@musclebone7875]

Dodge is coming up with all type of new names, but same results 😆

[@justme307]

Hemi seems to always lose.

[@hacklaurent9412]

Money grabber

[@DS22723]

That's gonna hurt Dodge fanboy's fragile heart for sure 🤣🤣🤣💀

[@justpray365]

@@justme307Only on this channel. I have seen the Hemi win more often against the Ford at a REAL drag strip. With these types of cars, the driver makes the biggest difference, as well as if the driver is biased.😂. Of course, I would take either car and you couldn’t wipe the smile off of my face.

[@aynsleyjeansonne]

Both of these cars could stand to lose 300 lbs

[@Viper3048]

You guys can't pump these U Drags out fast enough! This is one of my favorite automotive comparison tests on KZbin. Whoever came up with the idea, it's brilliant. I'd love to see an entire racing series built around this concept.

[@chadgraber4575]

The Challenger is, and will always be, legendary for the having the most power and still being the slowest among all of its competitors.

[@millertym1976]

It's true. But they are big, thick girls that just look so damn fine. Lots of weight. Lots of room. Lots of sexiness.

[@robw2326]

It's just so heavy. But I think most people buying challengers aren't looking for pure speed. You can't deny the looks and oldschool muscle car appeal it has.

[@tiashadrows3469]

@@robw2326its also that beautiful 6.5L V8 Hemi that it has

[@markvargas3663]

If it wasnt so heavy, trust it would wipe out these other cars. You gotta understand performance and weight to ratio. But its just the looks and noise on the dodge that everyone loves, be personally i would never care for how fast my car is who cares. A nice beautiful car

[@barrettmaxey7504]

Yesterday I bought a 2019 manual Mustang GT. I love it. Still trying to figure out how to quickly accelerate from a dead stop. Muscle cars are something else!

[@Shiftnlift]

What rear end gears do you have

[@ztwntyn8]

Off idle and come into the pedal as you nearly bog hold there briefly then to the floor

[@ztwntyn8]

Or get dr’s

[@barrettmaxey7504]

@@Shiftnlift I have no idea. It didn't come with an owner"s manual

[@Shiftnlift]

@@barrettmaxey7504 I really hope u are trolling.. it not man look up under your car or type your Vin number in om ford website. Is it a performance pack?

[@TheWolfMatt]

The Challenger is a modern muscle car trying to become a sledge hammer while the GT500 is now a modern sports car trying to become a scalpel. Both beautiful rides but there was always going to be one clear winner here, the GT500.

[@burgerbandit3646]

Thats a great reference.

[@mattheishman8435]

Not in a real drag race the gt500 would not win

[@TheWolfMatt]

@@mattheishman8435 On a drag strip with a prepped track and everything set for the best launch a vehicle can get, the GT500 would still win. Simple power to weight is enough to give the edge to the Shelby. The Demon however, that'd probably win at the drag strip but would have been left in the dust on the "U" drags as it can't make turns very well.

[@Tht1stnrGuy]

I mean not really the demon still exists

[@burgerbandit3646]

@@Tht1stnrGuy What would it do against a GT500? It can only perform well on a prepped drag strip.

[@4valvemark98]

That challenger is disappointing honestly, the tires and weight of the challenger kill it. It just doesn't hook or grip and is shaped like a brick, a beautiful brick though

[@emonoe]

Well said

[@maromyers964]

Challenger does what it's supposed to do.. not grip as a some what muscle car even though it has a Mercedes chassis

[@deansmoker4853]

Challenger is a boat, them and their Schatt-packs, Semons and Pinkeyes

[@androiduberalles]

A beautiful brick that makes beautiful supercharger sounds 🤗

[@voodoodiecast]

@@androiduberallesit’s supercharger whines more loudly than producing power💀

[@The_Hi_Life]

I’m gonna pause the video before the race and say the Shelby is going to annihilate the ghost… I wasn’t wrong.

[@ztwntyn8]

Same here and yeah

[@mikehughes8023]

Still both cars are good at what they do!🔥

[@tonyblackburn5002]

​@@mikehughes8023yes the Shelby is good at winning the Fiat....well it's good at what Fiat does😂

[@twany442]

The Ghost got ghosted!!

[@mattheishman8435]

Real drag race on drag strip where the challenger was built for would put gaps on that mustang

[@cantbsdave]

Those Shelby’s are insane- for the money they are legit

[@DaBrute]

You guys won't understand how excited I get when these videos drop!🤸‍♂️

[@meanmugginj]

Facts MyBoy

[@Darth707Vader]

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[@yupyup4209]

😢 Gonna miss that GT500!! I now view it as the standard here on U-drags that everything else is compared to. I love seeing how all the other cars fare against it. I think you guys should keep it for now! There are more cars to race against it such as a Camaro!

[@tomeckland9595]

Go it against a 911 turbo s. Bbyeeee..And go the z-06 too. New hero car from Germany.

[@mikeprice8307]

It'll be discontinued?

[@jonathancolbert6666]

Saw this coming. Love the black ghost but it stood NO chance against the GT500.

[@Tht1stnrGuy]

Lmao something up even the redeye gaps the gt50p yall r tweaking

[@burgerbandit3646]

​@chrisvaughn5748 Thats literally wrong.

[@mildaudiophile3879]

@@Tht1stnrGuyI’m a molar fan and it still not beating a Gt500

[@Allracinglife]

@@Tht1stnrGuyare u high a redeye has never touched a gt500

[@billrusinko7294]

You mean the aftermarket filled Shelby....try that with a Hennessy modified Challenger

[@kennethelliott5985]

Crazy because the the shelby thats shown is the base shelby and not the one with the optional carbon fiber track package!

[@alvinbanks]

The carbon fiber track package has more down force because of the front side splitter wickers and a high mounted wing, this causes more drag on the car (any car) and making its top speed less than the slipper standard GT500. On a road racecourse the carbon fiber track package GT500 has the advantage of making faster lap times because it has more downforce to help it stick to the track in turns. This applies to any car that has an option to have more aero. The more drag on a body is going to mean a slower top end speed but better lap times on a road course with a lot of turns. Standard GT500 for Top Speed runs (Drag racing) and Carbon Fiber Track Pack GT500 for road course racing.

[@brandonanderson4117]

Can you please do a mach1 handling pack vs SS 1le!!

[@voodoodiecast]

That would be very interesting.

[@MikeB-up4pi]

Both are shir save ur money get a better job quit commenting on KZbin videos better ur self fiest

[@TheUsz28]

Oh ya that would be good

[@jstreampc5132]

the ss 1le auto would probably beat this black ghost or tie it. 4.8secs to 60 is slow for an 800 plus hp. but i understand, too much wheel spin. it's like 80% of the weight is in the front and there's not enough weight transfer when accelerating to give the rear tires grip.

[@ProfitBoss]

I rented a GT500 same as the one in the video while on vacation in Orlando last year. The owner had fit a smaller charger pulley and exhaust to take it to 900hp and wow was it the best car I've ever driven and I've tried a lot of different cars.

[@StmKidz]

This is why you don’t see hellcat boys trying to race gt500s. They only race gt cars

[@Bones12x2]

I really have to hand it to Dodge. It's very impressive how they manage to make so many variations of the same car without making a single good one. They are like the anti-porsche.

[@fifteen8850]

Lol horrible take bro. It’s one of the best drivers cars ever made.

[@derbigpr500]

@@fifteen8850 It's the polar opposite of a drivers car.

[@blakew5672]

@@fifteen8850 “Drivers cars”?! Are you actually being for real? Explain to me what exact qualities any iteration of the supercharged Dodge cars have that makes them drivers cars? Is it that they’re obese like the average American buying them? Is it they’re all the same engine slightly tweaked the same way Apple SLIGHTLY “upgrades” each iPhone? Or maybe the increasingly cringey names they give each new limited release? Limited of course only to the number they can sell people

[@ElyciusM]

⁠@@fifteen8850yeah, great drivers car. big, heavy, excessive wheel spin in 3rd. As quick as cars with 2/3rd of the power. Totally amazing drivers car.

[@steelpenguin1]

Says the guy that can’t afford a 20 year old civic living in his mama’s basements lololol

[@DWH300]

The GT500 is an amazing Mustang. Imo.This is the best overall Mustang ever built. The 5.2 Predator and the DCT Is an outstanding combination in a Mustang that can handle both a dragstrip or a road course.

[@truckingjamaicans5045]

The launch is dogshit but the topend is really nice

[@fredwilliams7893]

Yea the gt 350 a better deal for the money ! 350 r hands down better!

[@legionmartin]

Power to weight ratio, gearing, aerodynamics and grip. These all play into it.

[@tanktheram]

The GT500 runs Cup2s, 180 Treadwear track tires that are 10mm wider than the Challys near allseason Pzeros. I'd love to see both on the same tire. But Aero, weight and gearing all are in favor of the stang.

[@unitedwestand420]

Neither car have good aero just so you both know. I'd actually say the gt500 has worse aero because of all the sharp edges and crazy front end compared to the yacht on wheels

[@alexandergonzalez9278]

Ehhh no, that mustang frontal area is obviously more aerodynamic

[@Ibnhlal4cars]

The boat couldn’t make a single turn ,it takes the Atlantic Ocean to turn 😂😂😂😂😂

[@ubeuonly]

It's a muscle car not a sports car was never meant to be a two seat light sportscaster or pony

[@wesleywalls7582]

Yet surprisingly it pulled over 1.1G’s in the corner.

[@TheJohnmuzquiz]

Bro, you drive a 90s bmw, sit down.

[@Icygt500]

@@TheJohnmuzquiz😂😂😂😂

[@NvSrAgE679]

Add some bow thrusters and she’ll be good to go.

[@doncabana3656]

No surprise on the U-turn and acceleration out of the turn what shocked me is how the 500 walked the Black Ghost on the straight drag section, even when the Ghost got the jump the 500 instantly reeled it in and passed it. Ford had the total package with this 500.

[@shotsfired517]

Well the 10 speed trans does help vs the 8 speed lol

[@mattheishman8435]

The challenger didn’t get any jumps. It was spinning the entire time. The Gt500 can’t reel in the challenger at all. The challenger smokes it at the drag strip

[@Geforcepat]

@@shotsfired517 It's actually a 7 speed dct, Not the 10 speed that's in the gt

[@voodoodiecast]

@@mattheishman8435then explain to me the 135mph it did at the end while the GT500 was clocking 143mph. That’s straight up walking the challenger. You really think it was spinning the whole time? Delusional!

[@Aquineas]

​@@mattheishman8435Did you not watch the second race?

[@twany442]

That GT500 has some crazy top-end. Just think if it had all-wheel drive.

[@reyfuentes4572]

Then the top end and handling would suffer...

[@justincharles6585]

I don't think yall understand and, fastest factory ice cars are rear wheel driven, awd drive is good for a launch but gives diminishing returns on the top end whilst it would also make the car heavier.

[@derekbanks7377]

Or mid engine! I get goose bumps thinking if Ford was to pull that off it will be over!!

[@twany442]

@@derekbanks7377 Right!

[@sherylellingson3538]

Wait till the Mustang GTD comes out. 50/50 weight distribution with it's unique transaxle in the rear.@@derekbanks7377

[@DWH300]

Shelby GT500. The Ghost Buster

[@lancemannion4113]

😂 or, Ghost duster!

[@ashleysambo4104]

Nice comment😂

[@burgerbandit3646]

Dodge really out here charging people $100k for a fresh whooping and a nice set of stickers while they get it.

[@MikeB-up4pi]

Ur poor and can’t afford either commenting on random KZbin videos lmfao

[@drfaticus]

Facts

[@cali2468]

Yeah their customers are idiots. Sorry had to say it.

[@IMGONEIN60]

😂🤣👍🏽👍🏽

[@tjtrevshootspepsicansandri2694]

Most people only buy them because they know nothing about cars and are gonna think they are fast with 700+hp but then realize how trash a hellcat is lmao and people buy em cause their favorite rapper raps about em

[@atmartens]

My favorite part of these is just the inside camera and listening. Love these races.

[@newmoon9463]

The 500 has proved once again that it is the reigning King of American Muscle. It is very good in every performance venue: Street, Strip, Roll, and Track. While the Challenger RE, Ghost, etc, etc, is a very capable car on a prepped drag strip with a proper drag pack, it isn't very competitive anywhere else.

[@shotsfired517]

Lol mopar is competitive enough to outsell mustangs tho 😅

[@Mr.E22]

@@shotsfired517most value looks before performance when buying a car

[@markvargas3663]

I wouldn't consider mustang as a muscle car a fast sports car yes. Dodge is muscle simple as that brother

[@tri3pleagent]

The Dodge is a one trick pony and you're lucky if you get the trick right. The Black Ghost might've lost to a Mach 1.

[@Starky513]

Would have* lost

[@mogulme6190]

@@Starky513y’all are delusional. 😂 definitely not using to a Mach 1

[@Justaeuropeanman]

@@mogulme6190not the Mach 1 but the GT350 would forsure beat that Mopar

[@matt-ts8cx]

I don't know, the mach 1 is pretty slow.

[@kahless0173]

It would've struggled against a gti

[@rzjk301]

They named that challenger correctly because it got murdered by the GT500.

[@voodoodiecast]

🤣🤣🤣

[@twfinc6855]

its always the "challenger" and rarely the winner.. maybe they should bring in some V6's with 300 hp less and it might do ok, like a M3 or something..

[@SuperCheckIT]

This is the perfect example what the Shelby GT500 would do to a Dodge Demon on this track.

[@tregaming07]

Not really. Demon could do better or worse. The launch would be better but the cornering performance would be worse. I am a Mopar fan, but ik this track heavily favor's the Camaro/Mustang platform. All 3 are beautiful beasts

[@CJLX805]

that's crazy, I never thought a Shelby would beat a Challenger Black Ghost, does horsepower even exist anymore lol?

[@salninethousand2496]

Gotta give Chrysler props for the Hellcat thang but they're just not great vehicles - too old and too little development to effectively use all that power.

[@jaredglass2562]

​@tregaming07 that would be interesting to see the demon race it. The launch should be awesome on the Demon ( even though it's not prepped) . The demon has more power to improve the power to weight ratio. Although the brakes on the demon and corning is probably horrible. Would like to watch.

[@goforbroke2]

@@tregaming07 Yeah the track favors cars that can actually make turns, Mopar doesn’t make vehicles like that. One trick pony with 1/4 mile blast. A demon would do horrible on this none prep surface. Is what it is.

[@belltolls1984]

I really love the U-Drag course; it's a very interesting take on regular drag racing, makes it way more interesting and entertaining.

[@tonyflorio3269]

For a car the Chrysler says should be firmly in the 10s, it seems hard to actually get them there outside a prepped track. Still a great looking throwback car, but I suspect the 392 provides much of the muscle car look, sound and feel for a fraction of the dollars. The T/A and shaker cars are very nice!

[@dnegel9546]

Well a scatpack ran a 12.1 in car and drivers testing. And here this 800hp+ challenger runs a 12.6 😅

[@pherron7471]

What are you talking about? They tell you that it will be in the 10s on a prepped surface. They didn't say about anywhere esle.

[@Traumatree]

800hp and 12+ sec on the 1/4 doens't go in the same sentence. There is definitely a problem with that Challenger. A heavier Hemi 426hp '69 Road Runner does exactly that 12.6 on the strip at 140mph...

[@alvinbanks]

A prepped track is why they all cry the excuse... let's see them at the drag strip. Well, I bet 90% of the people here don't live at or near a track. Put these same two cars in real world road conditions and the outcome will always be the same, Dodge boys crying with excuses because a GT500 humiliates their Holy Grail cars.

[@r3x_delta30]

The cornering ability on the gt500 is actually surprising 😮

[@fredwilliams7893]

What? Have you scene that car on the nurburing? It's very fast in corners!

[@AwkwardYet]

its pretty much built for the track

[@janetsminten8196]

Modern Mustangs are exceptional on the track.

[@nodo7575]

It can almost keep up with a 911 GT3 on track mate and it weights 1900 kilos. It handles really well for a big GT car.

[@MorGuitarz]

The Challenger remains as it always has...an overweight, clumsy pig for all the HP it supposedly makes. I mean, 5 or 6 BUS-LENGTHS that Mopar pig was gapped by! The GT500 embarrasses MANY supercars that cost magnitudes more than it does...in drags (where it is limited by traction) , on tracks, and from rolls. I've owned both and there's simply ZERO comparison. The Cobra is an absolute f'n beast. The GT500 doubles duty as a "musclecar" pretty well....but it truly is a track beast, complete with amazing handling, grip, acceleration and the rest of it. The Dodges are relics, since they ARE built on a Mercedes E-class chassis from 2005 and for what you pay, have pretty embarrassing interiors and a rearview camera that looks like it was sourced from a 2002 parts bin. But...as we've all seen, the Mopars perform flawlessly in parking lots in the inner cities while liquifying tires as they do donuts, while lizzos twerk on the hood

[@ridethebull4484]

bwwwhaaaa😂😂😂 100 percent!

[@Mr-Neven]

I am always amazed how people who review any form of auto Hellcats launch them wrong. You start in second gear. Unprepped surface I get 11.5 to 11.7 (125-128) every time with my 2016. I am a total novice at drag racing but am astonished by auto journalists who haven't figured this out.

[@voodoodiecast]

i have heard alot or mopar guys protesting about starting 2nd gear. Startin in 2nd is the best way to launch hellcats.

[@jaredglass2562]

Can't believe they have been launching in 1st. I'll have to pay more attention and see how many are doing this.

[@yupyup4209]

During that second race though even after it was completely hooked up the GT500 still wizzed passed it. And from ready on the hellcat forums it seems most people get around 4.5 seconds to 60. They got 4.8 seconds here but this runway looks pretty dusty but that affects both cars

[@yupyup4209]

*from what i read on forums

[@Mr-Neven]

@@yupyup4209 The GT500 is a monster. I just cant see it pulling on a ghost like that driving a standard Hellcat for 7 years. I do run 305s opposed to the stock 275s

[@Fmandan77]

Okay, okay, I'm subscribing! Just yesterday, I posted that I wished you'd U-Drag Race your GT500 vs a Redeye (or variant) and boom, you guys delivered! I too wasn't surprised at the winner, but I was surprised at how hard the GT500 pulls on the more powerful (on paper) Hellcat. While the race against the Z06 was quite interesting, THIS was the apples to apples "street cred" race people were waiting for. Much appreciated and enjoyed!

[@time_on_target]

Thanks for posting this. I’ve been enjoying U Drags

[@edmundscars]

Your welcome @timeontarget6814, good to hear!

[@whodahellru8124]

The GT500 is a muscle car that can perform on the track.

[@talkditingsdem5799]

It’s a sports car period. A pony car actually which means sports car. Dodge makes the only muscle cars.

[@whodahellru8124]

@@talkditingsdem5799 Google is a wonderful resource

[@jm-alan]

I think the fact that the GT500 also has the aero of a track car while the Black Ghost has the aero of a small house was probably a significant factor even after hookup.

[@billrusinko7294]

It's an aftermarket Shelby...not a stock factory GT500...Try that with a Hennessy modified Challenger

[@jm-alan]

​​@@billrusinko7294 I'm not so sure about that - the various Hellcat iterations over the years have been known to spin their wheels well over 100mph if you really boot it. It wouldn't surprise me if, especially on unprepped concrete, a reliably poor surface for traction, that the Black Ghost was spinning and/or cutting power all the way through the 1/4mile, even on the 2nd race. It would also mean that the "roll" doesn't actually meaningfully solve the traction issue for the Challenger bc whatever speeds it was pulling out of that u-turn wouldn't have been nearly enough to actually let it put the power down

[@johan_GT4.6]

@@billrusinko7294😂😂😂😆

[@Firehawk-205]

@10.07 " Video Data Thingy" I noticed as soon as it hit 2nd gear (Black Ghost) it bogged right down, almost like CPU pulled out the timing reducing power. . . .maybe detonation ? or heat soak? wondering if the "Black Ghost" had the correct octane ? Something seems off. . .. The Black Ghost should of reeled him in due to GT hooking up and getting ahead to mid-range of straight away. How many miles on the Black ghost?

[@ztwntyn8]

💩

[@dnegel9546]

Here we go 😩

[@donbjorkland1386]

I agree, the Dodge is down on horsepower big time, something going on with that car .

[@voodoodiecast]

That show’s it’s reliability. Dodge just stuff some power on it and call it with some hype but it won’t perform.

[@hurdthenerd]

Lmao would’ve lost regardless. Nothing wrong with the car.

[@robsolf]

I like the Udrag format. Short and sweet head to head that's not just about acceleration.

[@justinhawes5193]

That tremc 7 speed is the deal breaker. Such a beast of a transmission. I hope tremc makes it for the GT

[@kingshawn1857]

I am completely shocked not by the launch but just by the shear overall badassery of the gt500 man oh man🦾🦾😎😎

[@alvinbanks]

That's what happens when you just listen to what your friends say about Dodge and don't find out for yourself.

[@kingshawn1857]

@@alvinbanks absolutely agree I never believe the hype until I get hands not a fan of Mopar since everyone and their mother has one I respect the old school dodge vehicles though

[@anthonyc8499]

Glad to see a real opponent for the GT500! Fun race and the outcome was perfect.

[@wbwayne8887]

😂...let me know when one shows up.

[@voodoodiecast]

How’s that a real opponent? That dodge seems like regular GT/SS tier despite it’s million hp🤣🤣 what a pos car. Mopar or no car🤣

[@TheLastJayL]

Real opponent?

[@BB-pg5kl]

​@@TheLastJayLsomething in the same class of cars.

[@chrism869]

@Jayleslie80 it is, same class ,just wait until dodge do a track oriented version of the hellcat

[@yupyup4209]

I would love to see prestine examples of older cars going against each other! Like a Trans Am vs old Mustang, GTO vs old GT500, Skyline GT-R vs Evo, etc.

[@voodoodiecast]

It would be a treat. My money is on the evo. Awd and good handling will do wonders to it compared to trans am mustang camaro of the same year.

[@yupyup4209]

@@voodoodiecast Those old Evos were legendary for their time. A $500 dollar tune that you download from the internet and you had an affordable super car! The top trim level Eclipse actually had the same engine I believe and AWD but it was a much simpler AWD system

[@29kalel]

GT500 running with corvettes while being heavier and less aerodynamic is impressive

[@SuspenseESCAPEremastered]

The Shelby has good looking tail lights.

[@kennethmukuka3715]

Just love the sound of the Mustang supercharger

[@yupyup4209]

That's both of them making that glorious whine! Must have sounded amazing in real life

[@dnegel9546]

Buy a buick regal gs for like 1k and remove the sound deadening stuff. Now you have loud supercharging noises.

[@Sayin42]

Ford being the last of the American muscle cars still putting V8’s in, I’m glad it won that despite 40+ less HP - good going Ford 👏

[@1470boyz]

I’m mopar to T and I knew for a fact that the black ghost was gonna get smoked for sure as always . Dodge had more than enough time over these few years to come up with ways to shed that weight and to also put that power down properly .

[@alvinbanks]

Have you ever thought about Mopar not knowing what's best? 🤣

[@pagefamily8245]

I just want to say that the interchiller was the best piece of equipment they ever made and built for a muscle car you can use your AC to cool your supercharger with a flip of a switch it is the best thing they ever made

[@race-ist5point0]

I really love the Challenger too but it's amazing how it can't match the GT 500 with more HP.

[@pantsonbackwards]

challenger is old and ugly, time for a new car dodge, all thyve done in the last 20 years is try to shove a bigger engine in everything, move on design team, move on

[@blakew5672]

Contrary to American car logic, sometimes neglecting every other aspect of a car to squeeze more power out of the engine leaves you with a worse car. Crazy I know…

[@michaelglaspir3654]

I love how the gt500 is the standard to beat, really says something about them mustangs

[@mogulme6190]

Doesn’t say much…they’re more expensive and came out after everything else…it should be better

[@tonyfrance4100]

​@@mogulme6190The black ghost is $101k. The GT500 starts at $80k.

[@androiduberalles]

​@@tonyfrance4100I mean it's not that much different than a hellcat and those are like, what 70?

[@burgerbandit3646]

​@@androiduberallesThe GT500 just demolished a Jailbreak which is an 804 hp Hellcat. A standard Hellcat only has 707, that's a vast difference there in performance in all categories.

[@alvinbanks]

And Ford also.

[@gjones9842]

Holy crap that looks like sooo much fun. Shelby all day everyday

[@pantsonbackwards]

man that mustang is a dream

[@beastmodebreez7277]

I have a SRT and a R/T Charger. I love these cars but clearly the problem is, they need to be built lighter. They are so heavy it kills the power to weight ratio!

[@alvinbanks]

Dodge with it antique formula from the sixty's, build them with big ass motors with big ass hp. That crap has long been old and dead.

[@22vx]

The entire Mustang line is superb👍

[@voodoodiecast]

Last call🤣🤣 Exposed, Outclassed, Demolished at it’s supposed strength.

[@Freddy_Confetti]

Chill nerd

[@cali2468]

I've been saying it for the longest. Those Mopars are all hype. Overpriced hype at that.

[@cormaro13]

​@RedYacht it's always a Mopar owner to tell people to stop spreading the truth 😂 how's that engine tick and Trans going

[@hondass98]

More like the 100k Black Boat.

[@jamescarter6318]

They can put the biggest baddest engine in the challenger, but its still a challenger. These things weigh more than a 1/2 ton pickup from the 90s. They are meant to be a street car not a race car.

[@thedumbconspirator4956]

As a challenger owner, what they really need is a good traction control system. The car is pretty analog and driver focused and thats both good and bad. Its old school, but you could tell that dodge really needs to hire more geeky computer guys to program a good traction control system.

[@heresdamian]

"despite the dodgy start" no pun intended 😂

[@DS22723]

Already knew the result before watching the video, that slow brick will never take a corner, meanwhile the GT500 is a great all-around drag, roll, racetrack car package all together. Not to mention GT500 is 47hp less and 82 torque away than the Black Ghost yet still walked the living life out of it Now watch the Mopar fanboys dragging out their more expensive Demon/Demon 170 trying to defend the Black Ghost after it lost to GT500 😂🤣🤣🤣

[@voodoodiecast]

I’m sure they couldn’t attempt to defend it🤣

[@mehrdadshams8689]

Let them bring their best the outcome would be the same 😂

[@dantreb5726]

Mustang gt 2023 owner.... 1st muscle was a camaro 2n Challenger rt. 2014 : mustang gt2014 2018: mustang gt2018 2020: mustang gt2020 2023: mustang gt 2023 I m a fan of mustang gt😊😊

[@VAspeed3]

Love the GT500. Accelerates and handles.

[@nickzarnetske9994]

I'd love to see a new GT500 vs and original 60's. I know what would win, but it would great to see how far we've come in the automotive world!

[@burgerbandit3646]

I believe this was done around the time of the GT500's launch.

[@danimal865]

Yeah the new one would destroy the old one. Like bad.

[@wbwayne8887]

Dodge should seriously be embarrassed. How many years have they had to improve this formula? 🤦‍♂️

[@voodoodiecast]

They couldn’t. They just build hype, hellcat everything until they ran out of money to pay all those millions of $ fines.

[@chrism869]

They know it won't compete anyways ,it's my guess

[@turlubambabou]

Dodge did'nt change the heavy car structure in 20 years ( lack of money ).... Its a car you want to show off and make noise.... The Shelby is a complete sports car

[@brandonanderson4117]

To be fair, I don’t think the track was ever their intended goal.

[@dannyarriaga1]

​@@brandonanderson4117exactly. All these forza kids thinking they're on the nurburg on the daily lol

[@BB-pg5kl]

Now run the GT500 against the Demon please. I'd imagine the Demon would lose even worse 😂

[@voodoodiecast]

It would, it couldn’t corner and this is not the strip. Outcome would be similar or worse.

[@drfaticus]

True!

[@BB-pg5kl]

​@@voodoodiecastexactly. I'm just sick of Dodge blow hards always saying the Demon is the best. It's great on the strip with a prepped surface etc. but in real world testing it's a huge fail.

[@os2383x]

Look up Dragtimes Ford GT v Demon. 1/2 mile not 1/4 mile but it doesn’t matter, Demon got annihilated.

[@jaredglass2562]

​@@os2383xyeah, demon was designed for the 1/4. The gearing is exhausted by 1/2 mile , demons top speed is only like 160 ish

[@MartinScreeton]

What i noticed was that the GT500 Ford is $30,000 LESS Money and beats the Challenger....I'm always looking for what is the Cost of Speed and HP... I guess the GT500 wins that argument as well!

[@Sean-fo8kg]

On a prepped track I was able to get low 12’s in a regular 392 Challenger, stock. Grated, they’re not on a prepped track but high 12’s seems dismal in an 800 HP car. In fairness launching Challengers is a pain in the ass. It takes lots of practice.

[@taylornelson601]

Please do zl1 vs gt500

[@taylornelson601]

This

[@Jeeperscreepers778]

gt500 would win

[@alvinbanks]

They have a video race of a Challenger Red Eye vs Zl1 vs GT500. #1 GT500 #2 Zl1 #3 Challenger Red Eye is the finishing order of the race.

[@98v6]

Would love to see a U-Drag with the Shelby against a ZL1 1LE!!!!!! Maybe, also a gauge that shows gas/brake pedal input. Thanks for the awesome content. ❤️🤓

[@TheWolfMatt]

I second that. It'd be nice to see the going out production ZL1 1LE against the best of what Shelby has to offer. Should be surprisingly close between those two.

[@chadkent1241]

Wouldn't be close. Gt500s regularly trap 134-135 mph and no ZL1 in any instrumented test has bettered 125 mph. It would get decimated in this race.

[@camonly849]

The gt500 would probably win due to the power in the straights, but the zl1 would catch up in braking and cornering.

[@ztwntyn8]

Both great ideas

[@TheWolfMatt]

@@camonly849 That would be most likely. The GT500 is an all around beast of a car, as is the ZL1, but the GT500 would end up being the victor simply due to the power it can put down. The cornering and braking are excellent on the ZL1 but won't be enough to balance the acceleration and top end of the GT500. Would still be fun to watch, would probably be a closer race than against the Challenger Black Ghost.

[@memonk11]

God they sound great together.

[@dinosoarmotorsports]

U-Drag format is awesome...tired of seeing EVs, AWD and 700-HP monsters just doing a straight-dominate demo. The braking and turning bit is real nice modified drag to see more balanced cars.

[@bikebudha01]

The supercharger on the Dodge is the sweetest sound in the auto industry...

[@ProjectAjax]

Yesss! YESSSSSS!!!!!!! :) I asked for this last week!!!

[@larrygarms7230]

Considering the challenger has the aerodynamics of a box and the weight of a small tank, it fared VERY well!! Great video.

[@MikeWheeler-n2c]

Seems as though the fastest car in this race, won. 🤔

[@voodoodiecast]

Right??

[@jayhouse20]

You should use identical tires. Make the biggest difference.

[@tanktheram]

As a Mopar fan, and Challenger owner - I knew the result before watching. The GT500 is a beast with stickier rubber, better brakes, better aero, a greater rpm band - making its power longer.... and its considerably lighter. All said I still don't want one. Challengers offer a certain kind of magic that makes them possibly the world's best cruising, burnout and highway car. They eat up miles and only return smiles. However, I'd love to see both cars on the same tire to see if the couch-car could close the gap. PZeros are not the best choice for 800hp and 4500lb regardless of width. They're an allseason compared to the Pilot Cup2.

[@alvinbanks]

You said nothing no different than what a GT500 can do, plus GT500's don't need to go through an hour of prep-time putting on its ballet slippers, finding the right key and making sure its milk formula is right octan before a race. 🤣🤣🤣

[@mattpuryear8370]

12.6 for the Dodge is due to tire and/or driver. But there is no excuse for the 123 mph trap speed . 707hp hellcat's trap that heatsoaked in the summer.

[@chadkent1241]

It's just a fact Predator > any Mopar engine

[@susanestes418]

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[@troybballin14]

Can we see the GT500 VS ZL1?

[@ocnyoura6106]

That would be a much more fair race.

[@ElvisCarReviews]

I wasn’t expecting that wide of a gap

[@dnegel9546]

Wasn’t expecting the gt500 with a bad start to pass it like it was standing still. 😅

[@ElvisCarReviews]

@@dnegel9546 That just show you how slow those hellcats really are lol

[@vladkvs]

He launched at 1000 rpm lmao, its a joke.

[@bigd1345]

I was, Challengers are all bark, absolutely NO BITE. Please lower the price on these sorry Challengers. They're definitely a rip off.

[@dogerlambo2494]

Kinda strange I think🤔

[@D3AThCAl2DS]

I literally subscribed just for u-drags

[@test987665]

The format is nice, but can you maybe feature more than the same 10 cars over and over?

[@voodoodiecast]

That GT500 which they owned for 3 years is going away. That’s why it keeps getting featured before they sell it.

[@Shelbyisking]

gt500 will always beat cats

[@sambell7275]

More U drags please 🙏🏻

[@edmundscars]

Hey sambell7275, thanks for your support it's greatly appreciated!

[@LavarClemmons-r3n]

Imagine if they put the GT500 track package out there oh my God Ford did it again 🐴🐎🏁

[@alvinbanks]

What did the Mustang say to the Challenger? It said..."I ain't afraid of no ghost."

[@UPRISING144K]

They give lots of data, but missed the drag coefficient of each car.

[@1c3sly13]

Best thing about the Challenger having better sales than the Stang and Camaro is there's more Mopar people to beat.

[@deansmoker4853]

They practically try to give them away to people. 50% of them end up drifting around in a circle with no doors...in a game where I still have not figured out how you win.

[@deansmoker4853]

Second rate cheap ass versions of a Shelby.

[@deansmoker4853]

Look into those sales for real, 20% of Dodge products wear sold at flat rate to police officials, they are now losing those sales with the intercepter being added back on to the Explorer.

[@YungREDA]

Mopar vs the world

[@StingerOfNewOrleans]

​@deansmoker4853 that's not true...down south they use Tahoes and Explorers up north they use explorers for 4wd but also use chargers because they were getting awd r/t...dodge can't count fleet sales because the cops don't buy challengers so your comment doesn't make sense...the challenger outsells the mustang and camaro period

[@steezmonster92]

Please do Model 3 performance, long range and standard on this U drag! I love my muscle cars and super cars but I know EV drivers would love to see their cars performance especially compared to the muscle cars.

[@fredwilliams7893]

Um no! Most petrol heads could careless! We dont want to see that at all!

[@trevorshark16]

​@@fredwilliams7893Don't want to see them lose?

[@fredwilliams7893]

@@trevorshark16 lose? Im pretty you can search gas cars beating teslas all day on you tube

[@trevorshark16]

@@fredwilliams7893 And you can find Teslas beating gas cars as well, your point?

[@fredwilliams7893]

@@trevorshark16 you said you dont want to see them lose. Thats my point sone of them dontt lose you say it like they all do

[@ericbritton8146]

This drag race was absolutely awesome.

[@edmundscars]

@ericbritton8146, glad you enjoyed it!

[@EnthusiastsGarage]

Carroll would be proud.

[@zcat1006]

Edmunds U-Drags is better than Carwow races. KEEP going!

[@inline6-b586]

Makes a lotta noise, with lotta badass names, but falls really short when it comes to actual performance

[@ivanuki3555]

what do YOU drive?

[@voodoodiecast]

That’s Dodge! 800hp and couldn’t pull 140mph at the finish line.

[@burgerbandit3646]

​@@ivanuki3555Come on bruh, they charging 100k for that thing.

[@alvinbanks]

Dodge realizes on hyped-up advertisement to sale with antique formulas...put a big ass motor in it with big ass HP, no tech at all. For 55 years the Challenger has looked the same.