Ubers that are banned from Ubers - Open Mic

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@runningoncylinders3829
@runningoncylinders3829 Жыл бұрын
I can believe that Mega Ray was designed to be the craziest thing in the world. But did nobody play test Zacian or Zamazenta? The first is absolutely broken, and the second is mediocre. I’m sure now which one stopped the darkest day in Galarian lore.
@scrittle
@scrittle Жыл бұрын
Zamazenta was SUPPOSED to be Zacian's answer, except Zamazenta (pause the irony) was too frail to take the hit
@ZorotheGallade
@ZorotheGallade Жыл бұрын
@@scrittle If it got Body Press and perhaps if its ability worked like a built-in Sturdy, then MAYBE Zamazenta would've been worth considering for competitive...
@88porpoise
@88porpoise Жыл бұрын
​@@scrittle"They are an unstoppable force meets and immovable object" "Hey, who put wheels on our immovable object?"
@DCBiscuit
@DCBiscuit Жыл бұрын
@@ZorotheGallade If Intrepid Shield worked like a built-in Endure, it would have seen play. I can’t think of any UBERs that use Sturdy, since everything is either so bulky or powerful in UBERs that it doesn’t matter.
@GravityIsFalling
@GravityIsFalling Жыл бұрын
Mega ray was not designed to be the craziest thing in the world Xerneas was…it was without the strongest Mon in Gen 6 VGC and arguably the strongest in gen 7 too So in gen 7 GF tried to answer it with solgaleo and necrozma…but they completely fail So I think that’s where zacian comes from, and near perfect and completely unstoppable answer to xerneas (and other dragons like ray, palkia, kyurem etc.) And the funniest part? They still fucking failed because in VGC series 10 of SWSH (dynamax was banned) xerneas was good again, meaning it was dynamax that made it bad not zacian
@brandontherabboat4850
@brandontherabboat4850 Жыл бұрын
There’s something pretty goddamn raw about a Pokémon being banished from the arena where the literal gods fight each other.
@pageclayton6850
@pageclayton6850 Жыл бұрын
Banished from the tier of gods Enter into the tier of f u n b r o
@BoneTea
@BoneTea Жыл бұрын
​@@pageclayton6850god amongst gods
@xx-ee8fi
@xx-ee8fi Жыл бұрын
​@@pageclayton6850ubers r fun but its less thought lol
@Nathan-oe8ut
@Nathan-oe8ut Жыл бұрын
If its banned from ubers its not an uber. People tend to think the word UBERS just means any legendary/mythical pokemon. Wrong. Ubers is just a word for the top category of pokemon, power wise; which just HAPPENS to contain a lot of legendaries.
@markjacobs3232
@markjacobs3232 Жыл бұрын
@@Nathan-oe8ut How dare you show such disrespect to the legendary wobbafett!
@CuddlyTheMadElite
@CuddlyTheMadElite Жыл бұрын
Zacian is like if GameFreak decided to buff Mega Mawile. Higher effective attack most of the time, better bulk, and significantly better Speed.
@Ben-jl2rh
@Ben-jl2rh Жыл бұрын
Which I hate so much, game freak has a boner for Fairy Steel types
@frozenherolp9077
@frozenherolp9077 Жыл бұрын
@@Ben-jl2rh Wich I can understand, it´s a very good typing.
@Ben-jl2rh
@Ben-jl2rh Жыл бұрын
@frozenherolp9077 My problem is that they need to buff the weaker typings defensively and nerf Fairy & Water. Buff Bug, Rock, and Ice defensively, and buff Poison & Normal Offensively. Bug should hit more types for neutral and should have hit fairy for super while resisting at least 1 more type. Rock is weak to too many things. It should only have 2 or 3 weaknesses, not 5. Normal should have hit Fairy for super effective, too, and Ice should resist at least 2 more types. Poison should have been able to hit more than 2 things for Super effective damage. GF & Nintendo don't really care about balance if they have really skewed the meta game this much to please themselves.
@b2s652
@b2s652 Жыл бұрын
@@Ben-jl2rh no
@Ben-jl2rh
@Ben-jl2rh Жыл бұрын
@@b2s652 Trash opinion
@Matpit18
@Matpit18 Жыл бұрын
From Flutter Mane to Regieleki to Calyrex-Shadow, Gen 9 has got to have the quickest and the most Quick Bans in Competitive Pokémon history
@tysondennis1016
@tysondennis1016 Жыл бұрын
I will never stop laughing at the fact that the fastest Pokémon ever also got the fastest quickban ever.
@laprasrules12
@laprasrules12 Жыл бұрын
Dont forget Duraludon when it joins LC
@eieneidnf
@eieneidnf Жыл бұрын
@@tysondennis1016 somewhere in the lower tiers, both electrodes are laughing their non-existent butts off
@andrewpaschall8992
@andrewpaschall8992 Жыл бұрын
Miraidon got quickbanned faster than Mega-Ray did in National Dex too. He's only still around in this gens Ubers because of the limited roster making things like Ting-Lu more viable. Correction: They got quick banned at the same time but Miraidon was sighted as being more oppressive and harder to check.
@tysondennis1016
@tysondennis1016 Жыл бұрын
@@eieneidnf They’re noob traps, being fast support mons with speed and not that much else.
@FirstLastname604
@FirstLastname604 Жыл бұрын
Gen 9 Shedinja: the uber that was banned from the ubers that were banned from ubers
@RafaelVitor-fh3ey
@RafaelVitor-fh3ey Жыл бұрын
Funbro:
@MarthaVsHumanity
@MarthaVsHumanity Жыл бұрын
Kid named Thousand Arrows:
@phoinabucket391
@phoinabucket391 Жыл бұрын
​@@MarthaVsHumanityKid named substitute:
@OtherMinfan
@OtherMinfan Жыл бұрын
​@@phoinabucket391Kid named sandstorm/hail
@tales9342
@tales9342 Жыл бұрын
You mean liepard
@ryans8081
@ryans8081 Жыл бұрын
Calyrex-Shadow's bounty being 1.5 billion berries is pointless since it's unnerve ability prevents you from eating said berries once you catch it. 😉
@PQRDG
@PQRDG Жыл бұрын
I still don’t understand how Game Freak thought Mega Rayquaza not needing a held item would be a good idea.
@kartiksaraf4676
@kartiksaraf4676 Жыл бұрын
because not everything is supposed to function in a 6v6 singles meta. 99% of people play the story mode and feeling extremely overpowered is literally the thing that we want
@eieneidnf
@eieneidnf Жыл бұрын
​@kartiksaraf4676 also the official format for years and years has been doubles so people complaining about this stuff ought to either try out older gens, get into other rpg franchises like shin megami tensei or the rpg like a dragon games, or GTFO from the comment section
@ArbitraryOutcome
@ArbitraryOutcome Жыл бұрын
​@@eieneidnfYeah, but if VGC Doubles is prioritized in terms of game balance, why not just have Double Battles become the primary battle type in the main single-player story with Single Battles being secondary?
@MinMaxSpeech
@MinMaxSpeech Жыл бұрын
Because Pokemon are designed for kids first and foremost and double battles are way more complicated to explain as a recurring mechanic to someone who knows nothing compared to singles. I absolutely think we need more Doubles focused games as spinoffs like the Gamecube duology but the single player campaign of Pokemon and the VGC angle have always been *wildly* different levels of priority for Game Freak. They may balance for VGC (since typically being too powerful in Pokemon's single player is rarely a turnoff) but they absolutely put 99% of their focus on the single player experience cuz that's where 99.5% of the players will care. VGC and Singles are both very good things for Pokemon but they're openly not Game Freak's top priority and it'd be really self-sabotaging if they turned the single player Campaigns into things to prepare you for comp, either VGC or Singles, since the vast majority of fans playing the games will at most care about battling in the sense of "fighting your buddy and having a laugh" rather than because either person is actively building a team with the intent to beat the other guy and the teams he could being. It's kinda weird though, I'll 100% give that, cuz Pokemon is trying to juggle 3 different audiences but they've never been subtle about the fact that since Gen 5, their balance and design focuses have always been single player first, then vgc, and finally Singles (for example while changing weather abilities to no longer be permanent or the entire existence of Heavy Duty Boots are designed for Singles, for every 1 choice that's aimed at singles there's dozens for the others, cuz for better or worse, Smogon and the like has always been a fan thing whereas VGC and the single player have been officially supported by game freak for ages.
@ricardomaximus424
@ricardomaximus424 Жыл бұрын
@@ArbitraryOutcome It’s prioritized because it’s the only way to make tournaments interesting to watch and play. 6v6 singles tournaments would be literal hell, singles is still the base for the games itself, just not the tournaments (there’s also the official 3v3 singles format in online).
@Podcito
@Podcito Жыл бұрын
With V-Create, mega Ray is effectively running three 120 bp STAB moves, truly an engineering marvel
@adrianmarc5430
@adrianmarc5430 Жыл бұрын
What makes Mega ray so much more broken than all of the other mons on this list is how unpredictable it can be. 180 on both its Attack and Sp.Attack just makes it nye impossible to predict what set a person is going to run. Especially considering that it has access to some of the most powerful physical and special attacks in the game and being able to hold an item makes it terrifying. Zacian-C and Calyrex-S are both really linear pokemon, but they are incredibly potent at what they do.
@beechteeth
@beechteeth Жыл бұрын
It's almost like they were convinced locking M-Ray to a specific move would balance it a little but Dragon Ascent is actually good
@TheBoss-ih1rf
@TheBoss-ih1rf Жыл бұрын
this is just false lmfao. The fact that Zacian and Calyrex were as effective as they were while diong the same thing over and over is more a testament to their brokenness than rayquaza who needed to switch around sets to beat various "counters" in the tier
@astracontritus1209
@astracontritus1209 Жыл бұрын
Sorry I’m gonna be that guy, but it’s not nye, it’s Nigh. Like high but with an h
@Senshidayo
@Senshidayo Жыл бұрын
@@astracontritus1209 thank you I was going to correct him but you beat me to it lol.
@AuroraBoost
@AuroraBoost Жыл бұрын
@ahmadadnan4773 this is a lie
@loadingname5499
@loadingname5499 Жыл бұрын
10:48 I remember when ORAS came around where there was new mega evolutions for pokemon in PU like Lopunny and Beedril that because of how the tier functioned, you could legally use completely OP megas in PU for like 2 hours and then they banned them. I think that is considered the fastest quickban in games history but I'm not so sure
@Rncko
@Rncko Жыл бұрын
Could be. But technically the fastest ban would be pre-release ban where known troublemakers are str8 up sentenced to BL before the game even released. But welp, I forgot which strat & gen was that. Kinda remember there's 1 happened during BW1 transition to BW2. Was it Linoone? Belly Drum Linoone?
@waynebarretto7741
@waynebarretto7741 Жыл бұрын
I still want to know why Regigigas was treated so badly when they could make something like Zacian. Aside from one of the best type combos in the game, they also felt like giving Zacian a ridiculously good ability because it's stats weren't broken enough. And then there is Regigigas who is a normal type, worst ability in the game and couldn't learn protect until recently. Like just why?
@finalGambitShedinja
@finalGambitShedinja Жыл бұрын
Let's review Calyrex-Shadow: Mega Gardevoir Special attack stat, electrode speed stat, roughly incineroar bulk stats, 120 Base power ghost 100 accuracy, no draw back (the most spammable move possible) special attack moxie + unnerve to block resist berries and don't forget, in VGC it target's both and you can get +2 special attack
@screwtokaiba
@screwtokaiba Жыл бұрын
This doesnt mention Shadows most broken part Is a plant No really thats like the dumbest part about it
@gundispaberzs2281
@gundispaberzs2281 8 ай бұрын
You forgot to mention that it has the same speed as the 2 fastest mega evolved pokemon... (Alakazam and Aerodactyl), props to electrode for that too.
@kingkongsta4051
@kingkongsta4051 Жыл бұрын
I always thought yeah megareyquazas stats are crazy, but I always thought that broken ability is what made it to broken. Losing half its weaknesses when u have that much of every stat is crazy and I have no clue who approved him😂
@jaleelhull941
@jaleelhull941 Жыл бұрын
I really think he only got that ridiculous because they made Primal Kyogre and Groudon and Rayquaza lore wise was supposed to smack both of them
@protion_2312
@protion_2312 Жыл бұрын
Also being a Mega that can hold an item
@BoneTea
@BoneTea Жыл бұрын
Not to mention, Ray gets usage out of BOTH his abilities, since base ray ability activates on switch and m ray ability activates on mega evolution. So he effectively has 2 abilities, both of which are very good too
@SparkBlazeWarriors
@SparkBlazeWarriors Жыл бұрын
I can only guess they thought it was fine for vgc with the primals and Xerneas running around. I wasn’t playing that much vgc16 but I do remember Xerneas and P-Groudon getting more praise and usage than M-Ray? It’s a little easier to keep a hyper offensive monster in check with two mons, tools like Trick Room and Protect, and an incredibly powerful fairy type who could run away with the game with one set up turn. Although it of course went on to win worlds that year lol.
@kuruminightcore326
@kuruminightcore326 Жыл бұрын
This series is all about 3 competitive experts discussing about battle strategies and Pokemons on discord. While all of us listen to them.
@espio1653
@espio1653 Жыл бұрын
Wait, actually? Thought this was a history podcast
@MrStarman926
@MrStarman926 Жыл бұрын
Yeah? What’s your point
@FraserSouris
@FraserSouris Жыл бұрын
I’d love like an entire podcast series like this
@modestMismagius105
@modestMismagius105 Жыл бұрын
estute observation
@epicgamerman4268
@epicgamerman4268 Жыл бұрын
between the two galar dogs, i thinks its obvious who did most of the work during the darkest day
@LivingNihilism
@LivingNihilism Жыл бұрын
The fact that Zacian had to tweak its set just to beat the Quag is amazing to me.
@ShinyTillDawn
@ShinyTillDawn Жыл бұрын
it's like ADV Pokémon running HP Grass for Swampert.
@PerfectAzrael
@PerfectAzrael 9 ай бұрын
You take away unaware and Quag isn’t anything special. Plus, chip damage and any previous damage would let Zacian run over Quag.
@alexlarocca3065
@alexlarocca3065 Жыл бұрын
1.5 billion berries??!
@Gotonis
@Gotonis Жыл бұрын
Average Funbro Leppa Berry consumption
@雪者
@雪者 Жыл бұрын
oh my
@SneakTheOcto
@SneakTheOcto Жыл бұрын
Snorlax: 👀
@DoinkDeetus
@DoinkDeetus Жыл бұрын
THE ONE PIECE IS REAL!!!!
@DiegoMartinez-ff6xh
@DiegoMartinez-ff6xh Жыл бұрын
I think it should be more considering they are like gods
@JeBubbieSpubbies
@JeBubbieSpubbies Жыл бұрын
I'm suprised their bounties are only 1.5 billion berries, I feel like these three should have like Yonko level bounties or something
@alexandergotze3323
@alexandergotze3323 Жыл бұрын
The higher bounty is for RBY Mewtwo, the Pokémon equivalent of Gol D. Roger
@juannaym8488
@juannaym8488 Жыл бұрын
@@alexandergotze3323 5 bilion bounty for RBY Mewtwo, 3 or 4 bilion for GSC Lax, 3 bil for Zacian-C
@HabitualThinker
@HabitualThinker Жыл бұрын
@@alexandergotze3323mega ray being whitebeard makes a lot of sense
@yonkodude
@yonkodude Жыл бұрын
Zacian is shanks -uses a sword -gets nerfed (loses an arm/loses permanent ability) Both tied to royalty Got that DAWG in them
@ZAPRST8879
@ZAPRST8879 Жыл бұрын
who will luffy be (I sure that the dark horse rider will be black beard)@@yonkodude
@SomeAsian
@SomeAsian Жыл бұрын
Why they nerfed GLACIAL LANCE and not Astral Barrage... ....WHAT!?
@RainbowGod666
@RainbowGod666 Жыл бұрын
My italian sense of autism-fueled humor interacts with all ytps my people have made and brings to you... *a n a l b a r r a g e*
@ThatReallyIsNotOdd
@ThatReallyIsNotOdd Жыл бұрын
Game Freak being weird and inconsistent as usual
@notshockwavedemon7543
@notshockwavedemon7543 Жыл бұрын
They also nerfed Wicked Blow Now it effectively has the same power as Surging Strikes instead of being slightly stronger
@cradiculous
@cradiculous Жыл бұрын
They probably just wanted them to have the same strength since the pokemon are counterparts of each other, not really caring how effective they already were or not. I guess we should be glad Astral Barrage didn't have its power raised to 130 to match Lance instead.
@CuddlyTheMadElite
@CuddlyTheMadElite Жыл бұрын
VGC. Calyrex-Ice was more popular in Gen 8 than Calyrex-Shadow (even though that mostly had to do with Dynamax and Weakness Policy and also Trick Room too).
@the_bookworm8281
@the_bookworm8281 Жыл бұрын
Some honorable mentions belong to the both Mega Gengar, Shedinja, and Miraidon in the gen 9 NatDex Ubers tier. Mega Gengar was already a very controversial mon in gen 7 Ubers, thanks to its insane stats and Shadow Tag ability. In gen 8, Gengar gained the move Encore, which didn't matter in this gen since NatDex didn't have an Ubers tier that gen. However in gen 9, Mega Gengar with Shadow Tag + Encore was unleashed in full force and it broke the tier completely. Shedinja has been said by many in videos, but the gist is that this mon was not meant to exist at the same time as Terastallization, and this mon alongside with Assist + Revivial Blessing were the main culprits of the initial dissolving of NatDex AG. Miraidon's ban basically comes down to this thought question: "What happens if you take the currently very powerful new box cover legendary with a broken ability, and give it the ability to use Dragonium Z?" The answer: a no switch-in nuke. Btw, both Calyrex-Shadow and Mega Rayquaza are also banned in that tier for pretty much all the expected reasons. The former does have Yveltal in the tier, and the latter has a new powerful check in Zacian-Crowned to deal with it, but it didn't matter in the end for either of these two mons.
@PreciousLuna1988
@PreciousLuna1988 Жыл бұрын
It wasn't revivecats that got nat dex ag displaced it was the pssies that complained and cried about it instead of learning how to team build that got nat dex ag disolved
@diegoxavier9107
@diegoxavier9107 Жыл бұрын
@@PreciousLuna1988 How to tell someone didn't play Natdex AG above 1150 elo
@PreciousLuna1988
@PreciousLuna1988 Жыл бұрын
@@diegoxavier9107 that's not my problem. They should flood showdown servers crying cuz they are trash at the game
@diegoxavier9107
@diegoxavier9107 Жыл бұрын
@@PreciousLuna1988 Whatever you say, buddy
@greenmoon8075
@greenmoon8075 Жыл бұрын
Loving this new series , keep it up guys
@ryanwest8046
@ryanwest8046 Жыл бұрын
Mega Ray was so op they got rid of the whole mechanic of mega evolution lmao
@FACELESS_VA
@FACELESS_VA Жыл бұрын
I know that Zacian's Intrepid Crown was nerfed in Gen 9, but there's something that drives me nuts about Zacian-Crowned still being Ubers in Paldea as of last time I checked on Showdown
@CaptainJLinebeck
@CaptainJLinebeck Жыл бұрын
It's still pretty great, but Skeledirge gives it some issues now. Which is a problem as Skeledirge is used to check a fair number of setup sweepers in Ubers as well thanks to Unaware ignoring opponent stat boosts while using Torch Song to boost its own Special Attack.
@anitabath2636
@anitabath2636 Жыл бұрын
I really miss when the Ubers speed tier was actually slower than OU. Not only did this balance out the dynamic (at least by Ubers standards) of bulky/powerful vs speedy, it also gave a lot of OU Pokemon a niche in the higher tier. For example, in gen 4 Lucario is actually better at beating legendaries than it performs in its own tier. In OU, it’s too slow, frail, and can’t hit hard enough with its priority. In Ubers, it at worst speed ties with the bulkier threats in the game, and anything faster it e speeds to death allowing it to clean up late game very reliably. It even gets plenty of opportunities to set up a swords dance thanks to its great typing for a meta filled with dragons and steels. It’s not walling anything, but it can at least take a resisted hit as a setup opportunity. Same with Garchomp, which was known as the Ubers killer for its slightly faster speed than palkia and strong dragon moves as well as earthquake for many of dragons usual counters. 100 speed was considered blazing fast, most sat at 90 and traded some EVs for bulk. Anything with more than that was a glass cannon like deoxys and mewtwo that can’t just outspeed and ohko everything. Around gen 6, they started shying away from this design philosophy. Mega Ray was just dumb, and while Xerneas needed to boost for its speed, it was still a menace that required niche counters like klefki on every team. By generation 8, this design philosophy was completely thrown out the window. I remember when I first saw Zacian, i couldn’t believe it’s stats, movepool, and typing. Then I saw it’s ability and was dumbfounded. My initial reaction to hearing about it was that balance among the box legendaries had gone out the window. But I was like “well, it may be bad, but it’s Ubers, at least you could revenge trap it for dugtrio to limit it.” That was until I saw it outsped dugtrio by a mile, and to make matters worse a choice scarf dugtrio can’t even OHKO. That’s just sad. And of course calyrex was released in the Gen that removed pursuit. Considering what we’ve seen in Gen 9 now, the design philosophy for box legendaries is completely gone, and I wouldn’t be surprised to see one that can hit 100% accurate OHKO moves soon.
@windwaker0rules
@windwaker0rules Жыл бұрын
i wouldn't say Mewtwo was frail, it was balanced by the fact that pure psychic is an awful typing in ubers where the stab doesn't do much and pressure is an ability that doesn't mean much when everything dies in 2 hits. Also old legendaries usually had bad typing combinations generally with pure ground and water, flying/fire and psychic, dragons all over the place, even arceus only ever had one type. Gen 6 - 7 was when ubers started to diversify the typings with fairys, darks, and steels which before required lower tiers to fill those roles. Who needs ferro when you have Nekrozma.
@yungmuney5903
@yungmuney5903 11 ай бұрын
There's nothing necessary wrong with legendaries being fast, it adds variety, look at Mewtwo and... Zamazenta 😢. Even lugia or Arceus too, to an extent. What makes them overpowered is WAY MORE to it than just fast. Koraidon and Miraidon would be just be fine if they just had Drought and Electric Surge, SV Zacian is what she should've been like in the first place but Crowned would still be insanely strong anyhow cause fairy/steel is too good, so imo that would be the culprit. For Mega Ray just force it to hold an item and have Delta Stream just provide a Filter effect for Flying effective attacks (for example Rayquaza would still take 100% from a Moonblast but takes 3/4 from a Stone Edge). For Shadow rider (and spectrier too by proxy), I would remove Grim Neigh and replace it with... how about perish body? Remove Nasty plot and Will-o-wisp, and make Astral Barrage be a Double Edge clone.
@Breakaway-ic5gj
@Breakaway-ic5gj 7 ай бұрын
​@@yungmuney5903 These mons would still ruin the meta. Arceus is OP too it got banned, and later on it was still a big part of the metagame, but its offences are still less impressive for ubers standards and you can only have one so it was a choice between an offensive Arceus or a support one. Lugia's offences were weak
@burntsiennaleigh
@burntsiennaleigh Жыл бұрын
Aim being in these videos really helps keep the discussion up, rather than just being mini BKC videos.
@1020percent
@1020percent Жыл бұрын
Zacian had the advantage of being the only Mega Pokémon in the metagame lol
@Podcito
@Podcito Жыл бұрын
Zamazenta: Am I a joke to you?
@BloodyVoyager
@BloodyVoyager Жыл бұрын
​@@PodcitoTbh, yeah, Zamazenta is a joke
@marcoasturias8520
@marcoasturias8520 Жыл бұрын
Mega mega mawile
@boltskyline2957
@boltskyline2957 Жыл бұрын
zacian is a mega? I don't get your coment
@1020percent
@1020percent Жыл бұрын
@@boltskyline2957 item transforms it into bigger demon. How is that not a mega?
@Leo-nm1ne
@Leo-nm1ne Жыл бұрын
"Mega Ray/Zacian is not broken because unaware quagsire" mfs when he gets two hit KOed on the switch:
@bm4604
@bm4604 Жыл бұрын
"Do I need coverage? No, I just need to make my stabs hit harder" -BKC and every Crawdant user.
@eydis9554
@eydis9554 Жыл бұрын
I would love to see item theorem. Something like: "Why ITEMS might be sometimes everything" - The Leftovers (or Choice Scarf) theorem.
@Boltofbrilliance122
@Boltofbrilliance122 Жыл бұрын
Every pokemon is holding a held item it is actually everything
@bdt2002gaming
@bdt2002gaming Жыл бұрын
The Latias/Latios Theorem I challenge you to name a better Pokémon for this
@eydis9554
@eydis9554 Жыл бұрын
@@bdt2002gaming Weavile. The only pokemon that can oneshot Garchomp in DPP with choice scarf. Or Marowak and his Thicc Club in Gen II.
@turbo8628
@turbo8628 Жыл бұрын
@@bdt2002gaming good pokemon, but there are so many pokemon that rely on focus sash or they are useless. Latios was useful wothout soul dew
@bdt2002gaming
@bdt2002gaming Жыл бұрын
@@eydis9554 Admittedly these are both good choices, particularly Weavile because of Boots now too. Marowak has more problems aside from the fact it’s forced to hold Thick Club, though. I respect your opinions, but I still think the Lati Twins are better for this. Because it’s not just the Soul Dew- Choice Items, Mega Stones, Life Orb, and even some Berries have all seen sporadic usage over the years. They’re also Psychic-Types with access to Trick as well as a Knock Off weakness.
@poru7665
@poru7665 Жыл бұрын
I love this new format of videos, it’s really refreshing and entertaining to listen to The only thing that feels a bit wired is the ending. The video just kind of..ends. There’s no conclusion, no closing statement … it feels like the video was just suddenly cut like he microphone just ran out of charge.
@mikael.00
@mikael.00 Жыл бұрын
these styles of videos with joey and bkc are really nice to watch
@xy394
@xy394 Жыл бұрын
Flutter Mane "Who are you?" Calyrex "I'm you but even more stupidly broken"
@xXDarkWolfXx21
@xXDarkWolfXx21 Жыл бұрын
You literally could have gone to sleep the moment Calyrex shadow was dropped and woken up just to find out it was banned
@riteliliaren9734
@riteliliaren9734 Жыл бұрын
Rare footage of BKC on topic for nearly 12 minutes
@jamesagius5482
@jamesagius5482 Жыл бұрын
Big love for the collab, please do more. FSG on chimpacts jeopardy would be insane
@booradley6832
@booradley6832 5 ай бұрын
4:43 I love the pun of making Kabutops into Frederic Chopin because it both is homage to the greatest piano composer likely ever, and a pun on the word "Chopping" with his sickle arms. Bravo, whoever that was.
@wheatstone4487
@wheatstone4487 Жыл бұрын
Game freak needs to release the Legend Plate to S/V so that Arceus can get banned immediately and beat Calyrex's shortest ban record.
@natelikes2012
@natelikes2012 Жыл бұрын
Yes and no mate, it IS in the GAME BUT you cannot get one.
@Mr_Wholegrain
@Mr_Wholegrain Жыл бұрын
I don't know what's crazier between Mega Rayquaza being a menace with crazy stats also being allowed to hold an item or Zamazenta being really bad when compared to Zacian. Like imagine if half of the box Legendaries were just doodoo compared to the other.
@brett1908
@brett1908 Жыл бұрын
Always a W when FSG uploads a discord call style video 👍🏼
@GeorgeDCowley
@GeorgeDCowley Жыл бұрын
MR's only weakness is that it can't be fully special.
@TheUltimateShade667
@TheUltimateShade667 Жыл бұрын
These new videos you guys have been doing remind me of chapters in a podcast. Like I'm watching highlights from a podcast that's too long for me to watch in it's entirety. Its neat.
@RealShades7
@RealShades7 Жыл бұрын
The best part about the video: Title and Thumbnail 😂
@Gabaghoul
@Gabaghoul Жыл бұрын
These vids are cool, I like learning about competitive lore in a more conversational format
@SemiHypercube
@SemiHypercube Жыл бұрын
Can't wait for the DLC to add another one to the list
@immagns
@immagns Жыл бұрын
zacian crowned bombed an orphanage
@JonsFrapeProductions
@JonsFrapeProductions Жыл бұрын
This videos feel like the trailer for your upcoming podcast
@SlyScyther
@SlyScyther Жыл бұрын
Posting these type of videos on the channel was an inspired decision. Enjoying them a lot.
@lildannyboi13
@lildannyboi13 Жыл бұрын
love these discussion videos
@flatbread42
@flatbread42 Жыл бұрын
I remember freshman year, my first exposure to showdown: I played gen 6 or 7 anything goes. Swords dance, substitute, protect, baton pass ninjask passing its boosts and sub to dragon ascent, outrage, v create, iron head, life orb or assault vest Mega Ray. So beautiful.
@weavilethepro
@weavilethepro Жыл бұрын
fun fact: even tho snorlax is broken in gsc ou it's not banned because it's broken in a way that helps the metagame like for example gengar and other special threats would be kinda crazy if snorlax was banned from ou EDIT: for those who might say blissey, it wasn't even able to threaten the Pokemon it can check
@asuuki2048
@asuuki2048 Жыл бұрын
I’m happy that Calyrex-Shadow is gone. It was far, far too unhealthy. And of course, it means Mewtwo doesn’t have it around for competition. Let “the world’s most powerful Pokémon” thrive!! 😁
@jorgejoselouromota5195
@jorgejoselouromota5195 Жыл бұрын
That thumbnail is FIRE 🔥
@SonaraRuna
@SonaraRuna Жыл бұрын
Gen 4 meta: "Oh, now we're not on ShoddyBattle, let's see how Arceus REALLY was." Gen 4 meta 1 year later: *THIS WAS A MISTAKE*
@missplayer30
@missplayer30 Жыл бұрын
I can't believe it took them 2 generation to ban Calyrex, when usually, you get banned on the gen you're introduced in. I kinda expected a gen 9 Pokemon to get banned in Scarlet and Violet.
@lazuliioverheaven
@lazuliioverheaven Жыл бұрын
Aw cmon. Zacian Crowned, Mega Rayquaza, and Calurex Shadow should be worth AT LEAST 3,000,000,000 berries
@CountGremlin
@CountGremlin Жыл бұрын
Gen 10 Power creep is going to be scary
@AudioGAWD
@AudioGAWD Жыл бұрын
And here I am, wishing they just gave Luxray, Pidgeot, a few of my other faves some buffs
@theschnozzler
@theschnozzler Жыл бұрын
Can't wait for the ultra super god with all types at once and an ability that gives it an omniboost on switch in
@modestMismagius105
@modestMismagius105 Жыл бұрын
​@ahmadadnan4773 very wishful thinking
@fennecfoxfanatic
@fennecfoxfanatic Жыл бұрын
​@@theschnozzlerthat might be that new dlc turtle. Armageddon is sooner than we thought
@theschnozzler
@theschnozzler Жыл бұрын
@@fennecfoxfanatic that could be correct lol
@joevo1111
@joevo1111 Жыл бұрын
blunder got cut from the squad 😭
@prodjoshkta
@prodjoshkta Жыл бұрын
Feels good to catch these this early
@bronmoore7461
@bronmoore7461 Жыл бұрын
Love the format of these keep em coming
@bdt2002gaming
@bdt2002gaming Жыл бұрын
Me when Ubers becomes the new OU and AG becomes the new Ubers
@KR-zg9qc
@KR-zg9qc Жыл бұрын
Ahhhhh good old shoddy battle...those were the fucking days, man
@QuestionableLogic_
@QuestionableLogic_ Жыл бұрын
Zamazenta being so utterly dog water in comparison to Zacian just makes me sad. You'd think the shield counterpart could at least do something to stifle their Sword Sister but no, it's just a liability. The second I saw Hop's Zacian take half of my Zamazenta's health with a Sacred Sword I knew it was over before it began but man, I really wish it didnt feel like the driving force behind balancing was the need for VGC matches to be 20 minutes or less
@cradiculous
@cradiculous Жыл бұрын
I fought him when he had Zamazenta, but I played without Zacian to give him more of a chance. It was a much more interesting battle that way, especially since I was only using Pokemon lower level than his, and they were all Bugs.
@lenlimbo
@lenlimbo Жыл бұрын
Hop with Zamazenta, on the other hand, is pretty manageable. I remember my Centaskorch doing a pretty good job against him, at around the same level (I made sure to not overlevel my teams)
@virtualcolt
@virtualcolt Жыл бұрын
Zacian is what Minecraft Steve's dog would be if it was added to Smash Bros.
@axearmor214
@axearmor214 Жыл бұрын
Unaware Quagsire answers Zacian Crowned. Oh wait, your opponent is running Solar Blade in the sun. Oh well... Unless it's burned.
@webbowser8834
@webbowser8834 Жыл бұрын
"answers" is a strong word in this scenario. Even with just STAB moves, Zacian could break past Quag with a small amount of prior damage if Quag tried to swap in. Actual answers were things like sashed Reshiram and the like.
@axearmor214
@axearmor214 Жыл бұрын
@@webbowser8834 If Zacian had Leaf Blade, which for some reason it doesn't get, it would be a different story. Especially since Leaf Blade has increased critical hit chance.
@webbowser8834
@webbowser8834 Жыл бұрын
@@axearmor214 My point is even without leaf blade, Quagsire barely functions as a check to Zacian.
@axearmor214
@axearmor214 Жыл бұрын
@@webbowser8834 True.
@CoralEmolga
@CoralEmolga Жыл бұрын
Ubers that are banned from Ubers that are banned from Ubers
@JoshSketchShow
@JoshSketchShow Жыл бұрын
Eternamax Eternatus?
@yeet8036
@yeet8036 Жыл бұрын
Funbro
@paolotrevisanato9028
@paolotrevisanato9028 Жыл бұрын
Sometimes I wonder: do you think that there are some dudes at gamefreaks who actually look at how their creations do in the single metagame? And if so, what do they feel?
@ManyTanks1
@ManyTanks1 Жыл бұрын
Damn only 1.5bil for each of them? You’d think they’d all be up there with whitebeard and Roger’s bounties
@AS34N
@AS34N Жыл бұрын
Lmao pokeaims voice speeding up and slowing down makes me feel like I'm having a stroke
@YesImJoeKing
@YesImJoeKing Жыл бұрын
Dragalge, magcargo, drifblim, Aegislash or rotom and all of his forms! 💪💪💪
@gsnamine3958
@gsnamine3958 Жыл бұрын
caly shadow had with tera the perfect mechanic what iz needed to fix his flaws... but zacian-c in gen 8 back then is a different kind of monster zacian-c couldnt hold an item or couldnt use dynamax and still was so damn busted image miraidon if IT couldnt use tera and an izem that mon wouldnt be close be Trouble.. and even after all these nerfs.. zacian-c is still a top choice in UBER she got the biggest nerf in Pokemon history what is not happen via a game mechanic change and ita still good in uber gen 8 zacian-c in gen 9 woule be quick banned as well
@kizza4911
@kizza4911 Жыл бұрын
6:25 my bet's the Landorus was don't look back in anger
@WT_Neptune
@WT_Neptune Жыл бұрын
2:17 Throwback to that match I don't remember having
@fe4rlicia540
@fe4rlicia540 Жыл бұрын
these videos are great to watch I hope it'll bring more people to the channel :D
@Y0G0FU
@Y0G0FU Жыл бұрын
the only reliable counter to Mega-Ray was a Choice Scarfed Rayquaza. Airlock + Ice Beam :D
@bdt2002gaming
@bdt2002gaming Жыл бұрын
Me when the Mega Ray is also Scarfed
@Dr_Heavy
@Dr_Heavy Жыл бұрын
Now time to wait to see the bullies kicked out of the sandbox that is litttle cup (I sure do hope a skyscraper doesn’t come down and destroy it)
@DukeSR8
@DukeSR8 Жыл бұрын
Hoping Zacian manages to rise above Ubers again. He deserves it!
@emdal4055
@emdal4055 Жыл бұрын
The first banned pokemo from uber isn't Technicaly mega rayquaza or Arceus. But Wobbufet leftovers in gen 3 Struggle used the physical attack to calculate the recoil and the duel between 2 wobbufets means : PP stall then struggle until à player forfeits
@bdt2002gaming
@bdt2002gaming Жыл бұрын
Shadow Tag moment
@fennecfoxfanatic
@fennecfoxfanatic Жыл бұрын
Wynaut
@ssneakyandfriends1626
@ssneakyandfriends1626 Жыл бұрын
gen 9 nat dex anything goes. (insert the cries of M-ray, Zacian-crowned, and caly shadow)
@jayd.doubledubs
@jayd.doubledubs Жыл бұрын
Love the One Piece Wanted Poster Thumbnail. This is going to be awesome
@nicosledakis7452
@nicosledakis7452 Жыл бұрын
I like these chill conversation style videos a lot 👍 👍
@ThunderBrine
@ThunderBrine Жыл бұрын
Zacian (The Offensive Pokemon) gets a defensive typing (Fairy). Zamazenta (The Defensive Pokemon) gets a offensive typing (Fighting). When Crowned, Zacian (The Offensive Pokemon) gets a purely defensive typing (Fairy/Steel). When Crowned, Zamazenta (The Defensive Pokemon) gets a offensive/defensive typing (Fighting/Steel). Zamazenta should have switched types with Zacian, or perhaps had a more dedicated offensive typing (like Fighting/Ground). Unfortunately, it seems that because the theme was sword and shield, Steel type was an inevitability.
@asshrimpleasthat799
@asshrimpleasthat799 Жыл бұрын
I'm really liking these videos!
@astridparungao4971
@astridparungao4971 6 ай бұрын
And now Koraidon, Miraidon, and Xerneas has joined the AG tier in Nat Dex.
@mielos7341
@mielos7341 Жыл бұрын
A thought just crossed my mind - this channel is basically a better version of that old KZbin channel, The Dex.
@jacksonsmith2955
@jacksonsmith2955 Жыл бұрын
Shoulda given them bounties of the Four Emperors instead of Luffy's pre-Wano arc, since they're the strongest We might be able to include Miraidon soon for a full set!
@JaredittonGaming
@JaredittonGaming Жыл бұрын
This is perfect as the Live action One Piece came out today
@carsonbiller1825
@carsonbiller1825 10 ай бұрын
I want to know what's mentally wrong with the three people that didn't want to ban Calyrex Shadow from Gen 9 Ubers
@Wilsey.
@Wilsey. Жыл бұрын
I thought this was gonna be about infamous Uber drivers
@StickyTrap
@StickyTrap Жыл бұрын
I like how Alolan muk counters calyrex
@oopsalldeoxys5060
@oopsalldeoxys5060 Жыл бұрын
252 SpA Choice Specs Tera Ghost Calyrex-Shadow Astral Barrage vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Muk-Alola: 169-199 (40.8 - 48%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery Not really
@StickyTrap
@StickyTrap Жыл бұрын
@@oopsalldeoxys5060 i forgot to mention the assault vest my bad
@plentyofpaper
@plentyofpaper Жыл бұрын
Mega Rayquaza even beats almost all FEAR sets. Endeavor Quick Attack loses to Extreme Speed. Rayquaza overwrites weather, which defeats Endeavor+Hail/Sandstorm and some stall Leech Seed, Focus Sash, Endure Prankster Cottonee thankfully works.
@neduegeh5859
@neduegeh5859 Жыл бұрын
5:15 this is probably unrelated, but how do quadrupeds like Arcanine, Zacian, and the Swords of Justice use Close Combat? Do they rear up and fight like bears or something? *I need answers*
@jayd.doubledubs
@jayd.doubledubs Жыл бұрын
Love the googly eyes on the legendaries lol
@aetherblackbolt1301
@aetherblackbolt1301 Жыл бұрын
What if Rayquaza needed an item to mega evolve in competitive (but it stays broken offline or casual online because no one cares there)? Would it possibly be allowed in Ubers?
@lenlimbo
@lenlimbo Жыл бұрын
It probably be as strong as the primals. Maybe s bit weaker, competitively speaking. Ray still hits like a truck, and ignores flying weaknesses, but without choice items there are some walls it wouldn't break as fast, and most of his really strong moves weaken him.
@TayoAAdetola
@TayoAAdetola Жыл бұрын
I love these videos
@jeremielliott4581
@jeremielliott4581 Жыл бұрын
These new videos are great.
@Tornadith
@Tornadith Жыл бұрын
Love these videos, the only feedback I would say is that the song that starts at 6:28 is a bit distracting since it has some mouse clicking sound effects baked into it.
@Greatbabyred
@Greatbabyred Жыл бұрын
I think what you're hearing are the overtones of either the snare drum or the hi hat
@fastrockproductions9788
@fastrockproductions9788 Жыл бұрын
10:59 the fastest ban was actually husian Quwilfish and Sneasel from Zu
@yeet8036
@yeet8036 Жыл бұрын
Fastest ban in ubers. Not just fastest ban
@1stCallipostle
@1stCallipostle Жыл бұрын
ZU still hasn't even been legitimized, right?
@webbowser8834
@webbowser8834 Жыл бұрын
IIRC those were quick bans. Suspect tests being resolved that quickly is basically unheard of. If we wanna talk comically fast quick bans though, Lando-I from UU back in gen 6 definitely deserves a mention.
@odd-eyesdragoon
@odd-eyesdragoon Жыл бұрын
Surprised Ultra Necrozma isn’t here.
@yeet8036
@yeet8036 Жыл бұрын
It's not banned
@jamesgiles4517
@jamesgiles4517 Жыл бұрын
It wasn't banned because it's not that fast and manageable + people prefer to use dusk main for defence
@-libertyprimev1-902
@-libertyprimev1-902 Жыл бұрын
I'll never get over Regigigas' continued treatment when they thought SwSh Zacian-Crowned was alright who had 10 higher base attack, 48 higher base speed, a benefitcial attack boosting Ability, a move to counter that gen's gimmick, and one of the best type combos in the game as opposed to pure Normal which has one weakness and one immunity... Even lore wise where Regigigas should be slow to power (it being based on a golem that gained power each day it was awake which was left active for 5 days afterwards gained too much power going out of control and destroyed half a city), why on earth was the doggo with a sword in it's mouth Stronger Than God and The strongest thing in that gen... Side note why not make Slow Start more in line with that lore by having it regain 20% of it's total power per turn, at which point upon reaching turn 5 (if you manage to keep it alive that long) it continues to gain +10% power at the cost of a chance to ignore orders... Or there was a great idea someone had to make each Regi on the team reduce Slow Start's turn count by 1, making it possible but wildly impractical to hit the field immediately ready to go (at which point you might as well just use an Ability swap or nullifier pokemon but I love the idea of an Exodigigas).
@Ieozawa
@Ieozawa Жыл бұрын
who would win? mega rayquaza with max attack or one spiky sturdy hedgehog boi
@jamesgiles4517
@jamesgiles4517 Жыл бұрын
that would just be a pure guessing game
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